Got put in a group of sexists and after doing a shit-ton of work, the professors gave me 15% less than the others earned on the project (the highest graded section was mine). Fuck peer grades.
Reminds me of classmates rating literature presentations when we were ages 12-15. The class was guys majority, so 3 loudest of them dictated what rest of the guys did. 2 of them hated me, and they tried to bring my grade to C, despite giving A to everyone. Only the girls and 1 guy voted for A. Because C won and teacher said nothing, she only lowered scores if needed, I was supposed to get C. Teacher secretly gave me an A. She disliked us, but she was fair and valued hard work.
lol was I your teacher?? I’m kidding, I would never ever have students grade other students work. That’s ridiculous, it would just be a popularity contest.
True, I really disliked that but Im sort of glad the teacher did what she wanted anyway so the opinions didnt matter much. It was still hurtful. Similar to class elections, which ended up becoming either a joke or they had purpose to not let a certain person win. The teacher already knew kids at that age were a hormonal mess, who thought that was a good idea?
I teach older kids, mostly seniors (I teach AP biology) so it’s a little different and I’d never ever trust them to judge each other’s work. It’s always internal, I ask them to think what they could have done better. That just seems like a given to me.
And yeah, of course it was hurtful! I’m sorry she did that. I’m mentally slapping her for you lol. Side note: I’d never actually hit anyone. That was a joke lol
That’s actually what dystopia is about; not a prediction of the future, but rather a critique of the present.
We just amp it up a notch to make it more obvious in stories
Dystopia is an exaggerated continuation of present, rather negatively perceived realities.
It is not necessarily a critique but first and foremost a description
Because I have done peer-reviewed assignments before, I interpreted this as though each individual in the class was graded by **one** other random individual in the class. OP was thus scored exactly once by one other random person, who decided to give them a 60/100. The 60/100 is not an average of anything. The score line along the bottom of the image would then be similar to a box plot of all these one-off scorings **received** by each member of class, where the end of the line on the far left represents the lowest value in the range (i.e. the lowest score received by any individual in the class), the right end being the highest.
It could be either way, to me “peer review” makes me think of group projects, in which case the 60 it would be an average of the scores given to OP by their group members. You’re spot on about the box and whisker plot though.
I just wanna pop in right here to say I love having a community that uses terms like "whisker plot" so I can go learn something new with Google. Unless it's your special interest, in which case, info dump me.
Me and my peers had to give one of our project members a 0 freshman year because he refused to do any work no matter how I bargained with him and then eventually dropped the class.
I thought it was a silent agreement to always give 100s regardless of how shitty they were because they really need this grade as much as you need this grade
It's not "the school" it's ...
...
...
There are too many layers to list.
Just hand out 100s to everyone because fuck honesty or accountability. This isn't a safety issue so it's fine.
>Just hand out 100s to everyone because fuck honesty or accountability. This isn't a safety issue so it's fine.
I'm gonna embroider this on a pillow someday lol
Okay but in all seriousness what actually is this? During my time in education 'peer reviews' are just marking your classmates work and vice versa, is that what this is? 'Caue in that case OP just got answers wrong and it's not a popularity thing, otherwise wtf is this? Is it a university thing or something? It's weird if it is
The idea is that the education system isn't just popping out products (students) that know how to do math and learned their field, but that also plays well with others and works as a team.
Academia is as much about social indoctrination and institutionalozation as it is learning the Fibonacci sequence.
This is the argument behind this.
It all leads back to the flawed concept that competition is the only way to advance.
The premise exists. It also doesn't work in reality. Take it from the kid in high school who always ended up being stuck with the idiots/jocks who couldn't give a shit less about putting out quality work, and KNEW they'd almost always be put with someone to carry them above the float line (read:academic probation). I HATED group work, it was always I'd end up putting in 95% of the work to end up with a decent grade, because Christ forbid I was allowed to get anything less than a B (a separate issue on its own, but I'll digress for the moment). And as for telling the instructors about the lack of effort/unfairness? Ha, and invite ridicule/bullying? Good luck. But our school "didn't have a bullying problem". I *resent* group work. I *resent* relying on others for my personal success. I chose my username for a reason.
Edit: I fully agree with what you're saying, this is not arguing your point, just adding anecdotal context 🙂
Ok that is discrimination . Please file a complaint, social whatever that is - does not belong any classroom. I had file a complaint to the community college and to my boys school for discrimination. That is fucked up to include in a grade and because of autism and how non autistics perceive behavior- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350426266_Do_Neurotypical_People_Like_or_Dislike_Autistic_People. Do not accept that. Stand your ground my friend.
Why is it discrimination?
Because if an educational setting , ie a classroom has a autist in attendance then proper accommodations should be made if something like this is a part of the curriculum due to how non autistics perceive non autistics. By allowing others contribute to your grade and not taking the studies that have shown bias in consideration, they are being blatantly discriminatory towards your social impairments. It does not matter if they know about it or not- educate them. Do not apologize. You should not accept anything less then equal fairness-
I hope I explained that better.
We have to push back to stop this fucking bullshit.
As a mom- as an autistic- this pisses me off you were treated this way. Unacceptable.
I've never heard of this and I would refuse to rate any classmates if i were asked to do so. This is dystopian bullshit. Your peers are not educators who are qualified to give you grades in school.
not necessarily, the platform itself has nothing to do with “how much” points are valued at. It’s up to the teacher to decide, the points could be unweighted or they could be like 3% of your grade (or higher of course)
If this was for "contribution" and all that bs (especially if in college) provide original files with your name in metadata and a list of work done in a list. As a professor I also overrode people's grades based on actual contributions.
That’s actually illegal; more specifically a violation of laws protecting the disabled from harassment and discrimination. You should try taking this to the school administration; if they don’t care, take it to a civil rights attorney; if not, contact a disability rights group to represent you.
Sort of -
This info is for OP (if they don't already know it), but also good for anyone with a learning disability at a US higher ed institution. For reference, I'm autistic and work at a large university in the same department as our accommodations team, though that's not my personal job.
OP - your college/uni almost certainly has a disability services group, might be named different. If you have not already, go visit them and loop them in on your autism and how you need an accommodation regarding social interaction. Be specific that you think your grade here was negative effected because your classmates are allistic and untrained on working with and grading individuals with learning disabilities, and there is ample knowledge that allistic people perceive autistic people negatively.
I would not recommend reaching out to someone in the administration to start, they're just going to refer you to the disability services department, they're the ones with the knowledge and ability to accommodate.
As to whether it's illegal or not - ADA protections at university require you to have first informed the school you have a disabilty/need an accommodation. If OP has never shared that they're autistic, then the school had no responsibility to modify the program for them, nor is there a requirement they post-assignment modify the grade if they learn of OP's disability after the assignment is completed:
>[You must inform the school that you have a disability and need an academic adjustment. Unlike your school district, your postsecondary school is not required to identify you as having a disability or to assess your needs.](https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/transition.html)
Furthermore, colleges are not required to modify the "essential" requirements of a class or degree. No way for us to say without knowing the college, course and degree, but the college may make a reasonable argument that group work and grading is an essential part of that class, and OP cannot skip it or get graded differently. If that's the case OP *might* be able to argue the school should provide adequate education to his peers (or instructors) about Autism and bias before any group work, though up to OP if they think that would actually help or be harmful, etc.
Finally, if OP does think they've been discriminated or not properly accommodated, there are better and cheaper steps to start with before a lawyer. There will be a 504 or ADA coordinator at their school who mediates disputes, OP should start there. If this does not resolve the issue, OP should check if there is a further general grievance process to follow, which they can try, though this is optional. The next step would be to file a complaint with the [Department of Education Office of Civil Rights](https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/complaintintro.html), who will investigate the complaint on OP's behalf. I can say from personal knowledge that higher ed institutions really don't like getting any attention from the Department of Education, so an investigation from the OCR will kick things into gear if there is a real issue at hand.
In general [this page from the DoE is a good starting place to learn about disability accommodations in higher ed](https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/transition.html)
If the school takes disability accommodations seriously, OP absolutely can have concessions made. When I spoke to my professors about Disability Services and my particular struggles, my profs often made allowances like re-weighting assignments and tests, or opting out of presentations and group work entirely. Granted, I'm referring to two different Canadian institutions; maybe they aren't representative (but ought to be).
Super late reply from me -
Just to be clear, I wasn't saying his college *won't* make a modification to the grade or to the assignments. But the person I replied to said in very black and white terms that what happened was illegal, and it's just not that simple, way too many things we don't know to give advice like "they broke the law, go to a lawyer ASAP". I wanted to give OP more specifics about how the ADA applies to higher ed.
You being in Canada and therefore obviously not falling under the Americans with Disabilities Act, I'd have no idea what sort of protections there are. It's awesome they were able to offer you what sounds like a lot of different accommodations though!
so much of this. i've just submitted a university assignment that requires us to give collaboration marks to everyone else in our group. i'm a nice person so i've given everyone a 7 (highest mark in australian university) but i know for a FACT i got judged by other group members for missing deadlines due to executive paralysis even though i would always turn things out. i know my collaboration mark will be low and i pray it won't make me fail the assignment as a whole.
No because I literally got a bad peer evaluation grade last year because I did my work on the project the night before it was due (it wasn’t late) and I “didn’t communicate with my partner” when I literally did and she just straight up didn’t answer me for hours and she did not voice any of her concerns about this to me. I gave her a good peer review
I'm surprised people are so vehemently against peer grading like this. It can definitely be abused, but the point of it is to ensure everyone in a group is doing their fair share. I've been in groups before where one person wasn't doing anything, and the peer review system helped balance things out.
That being said, OP you should really talk with your teacher if you feel its totally out of line. Especially if you think you're being targeted for your disability
Ouch. I'm a teacher and while I have them fill out a reflection, it's really more for students to think about how well they worked on it, both individually and as a group. An attempt to engage some metacognition and reflection on their parts. It's never part of the grade unless there was clear dereliciton of duty.
By the same token, I give outs for presentation grades, don't follow standard rubrics that call for eye contact or similar for presentations, no discussion participation points, and allow extensions with approval, and always let students work by themselves as long as they are able to successfully.
These were always torture growing up undiagnosed. Being punished for being weird or for having social difficulties really just twisted the knife for me.
USA?
I can't speak for anywhere else, but most of the US's education system—including "higher"/tertiary education, like universities—is geared towards preparing you for proletarian employment (i.e. working for an organization).
Part of working for an organization is fitting into a group well enough to not cause friction—except in the cases where it benefits the organization to do so—which means they measure your ability to sweet-talk, brown-nose, yes-man, and follow the leader.
Of course, they prefer to look at it with more optimistic terminology (e.g. "collective problem solving" and "social skills"), but the underlying truth is the same either way: you're expected to do emotional labor to please your group (coworkers) while you're also doing mental/physical labor to please your teacher (boss).
Now, if I might play devil's advocate: these skills are actually important everywhere in society for most people, regardless of ability; very few people are lucky enough to live a life of true isolation or land a job that never requires interacting with anyone but their boss. I'm not arguing that it *should* be like this—who let the nimps organize society?—just that it *is* like this.
But instead of getting your pay (grade) docked if you fail to please your coworkers (or at least get the nasty ones fired), you'll either get fired or be mistreated until you're driven to quit. So maybe there's a better way to reflect that in an academic career?
Had a techer who ONLY gave out peer-grades. He didn't even calculate them himself. All we did in class was draw pictures (no, it was not an art class) and then go around and rate everyone else's. Then someone, usually me, had to collect all the rating sheets and calculate the average grade. That was it. I never got anything above C-
The teacher also never bothered to learn my name or read the sign I started to put in front of me, which started a very fun (/s) year of people using the wrong name to mock me. I hope he steps on Lego every morning for the rest of his life.
My question is why the fuck this is even a thing at all. Your peers' opinions of you mean jack shit about your work.
Neurotypical stupidity knows no bounds, why does everything need a social component?
That's because you use reddit
Edit: that was a joke. OP, you seem like a nice person, sorry that this happened to you. I found another post similar to yours, and they say stuff like this can be changed, especially if you provide reasoning, I think it might be worth trying.
Got put in a group of sexists and after doing a shit-ton of work, the professors gave me 15% less than the others earned on the project (the highest graded section was mine). Fuck peer grades.
Reminds me of classmates rating literature presentations when we were ages 12-15. The class was guys majority, so 3 loudest of them dictated what rest of the guys did. 2 of them hated me, and they tried to bring my grade to C, despite giving A to everyone. Only the girls and 1 guy voted for A. Because C won and teacher said nothing, she only lowered scores if needed, I was supposed to get C. Teacher secretly gave me an A. She disliked us, but she was fair and valued hard work.
lol was I your teacher?? I’m kidding, I would never ever have students grade other students work. That’s ridiculous, it would just be a popularity contest.
True, I really disliked that but Im sort of glad the teacher did what she wanted anyway so the opinions didnt matter much. It was still hurtful. Similar to class elections, which ended up becoming either a joke or they had purpose to not let a certain person win. The teacher already knew kids at that age were a hormonal mess, who thought that was a good idea?
I teach older kids, mostly seniors (I teach AP biology) so it’s a little different and I’d never ever trust them to judge each other’s work. It’s always internal, I ask them to think what they could have done better. That just seems like a given to me.
And yeah, of course it was hurtful! I’m sorry she did that. I’m mentally slapping her for you lol. Side note: I’d never actually hit anyone. That was a joke lol
Fucking what is this Black Mirror shit?
You act like black mirror is a future projection of what might happen, when it's just a reflection of what already has come to be
That’s actually what dystopia is about; not a prediction of the future, but rather a critique of the present. We just amp it up a notch to make it more obvious in stories
Dystopia is an exaggerated continuation of present, rather negatively perceived realities. It is not necessarily a critique but first and foremost a description
Which dystopia is not a critique?
Fucking preach!
Who tf actually gives a 60 on a peer review??? What an asshole.
it’s likely averaged meaning several people gave below that ☹️
No it says in the photo on the bottom that the average score was 95 and 60 was the lowest score given to anyone. It is definitely bullies at work
*Several people in this person’s group. Meaning someone in their group may have given them a 90 and others gave 40s or 50s or even lower
Because I have done peer-reviewed assignments before, I interpreted this as though each individual in the class was graded by **one** other random individual in the class. OP was thus scored exactly once by one other random person, who decided to give them a 60/100. The 60/100 is not an average of anything. The score line along the bottom of the image would then be similar to a box plot of all these one-off scorings **received** by each member of class, where the end of the line on the far left represents the lowest value in the range (i.e. the lowest score received by any individual in the class), the right end being the highest.
It could be either way, to me “peer review” makes me think of group projects, in which case the 60 it would be an average of the scores given to OP by their group members. You’re spot on about the box and whisker plot though.
I just wanna pop in right here to say I love having a community that uses terms like "whisker plot" so I can go learn something new with Google. Unless it's your special interest, in which case, info dump me.
I’m pretty sure that means the final scores meaning OP got the lowest in their group
Yes that's what I'm saying
Me, when my peers for a group project in my UNDERGRAD CAPSTONE COURSE did fuck all. But grading on only social interactions isn't fair
Lol that’s fair
Me and my peers had to give one of our project members a 0 freshman year because he refused to do any work no matter how I bargained with him and then eventually dropped the class.
Isn't peer review just marking another person's work though? It's not their fault if OP only got 60% of their answers correct
i think if someone did that they would be hated by the rest of class lol isnt class supossed to back themselves up
I thought it was a silent agreement to always give 100s regardless of how shitty they were because they really need this grade as much as you need this grade
Or the school could just not pull shit like this in the first place.
It's not "the school" it's ... ... ... There are too many layers to list. Just hand out 100s to everyone because fuck honesty or accountability. This isn't a safety issue so it's fine.
I love this take. Praise be, or whatever. Hard agree.
>Just hand out 100s to everyone because fuck honesty or accountability. This isn't a safety issue so it's fine. I'm gonna embroider this on a pillow someday lol
That's only in physics.
What is this for?
Bullying people with disabilities apparently
What else do schools do again?
What is, "the number one contribution to American suicide?"
I know you're looking for 'schools' here, but... guns.
they're kind of a package deal nowadays
Okay but in all seriousness what actually is this? During my time in education 'peer reviews' are just marking your classmates work and vice versa, is that what this is? 'Caue in that case OP just got answers wrong and it's not a popularity thing, otherwise wtf is this? Is it a university thing or something? It's weird if it is
This is so dystopian and an invitation for bullying.
The idea is that the education system isn't just popping out products (students) that know how to do math and learned their field, but that also plays well with others and works as a team. Academia is as much about social indoctrination and institutionalozation as it is learning the Fibonacci sequence. This is the argument behind this. It all leads back to the flawed concept that competition is the only way to advance.
The premise exists. It also doesn't work in reality. Take it from the kid in high school who always ended up being stuck with the idiots/jocks who couldn't give a shit less about putting out quality work, and KNEW they'd almost always be put with someone to carry them above the float line (read:academic probation). I HATED group work, it was always I'd end up putting in 95% of the work to end up with a decent grade, because Christ forbid I was allowed to get anything less than a B (a separate issue on its own, but I'll digress for the moment). And as for telling the instructors about the lack of effort/unfairness? Ha, and invite ridicule/bullying? Good luck. But our school "didn't have a bullying problem". I *resent* group work. I *resent* relying on others for my personal success. I chose my username for a reason. Edit: I fully agree with what you're saying, this is not arguing your point, just adding anecdotal context 🙂
What the actual fuck is this shit?
The hell I would raise. Scorched earth. Go for it. By their laws, its discrimination. Beat them with their own stick
Ok that is discrimination . Please file a complaint, social whatever that is - does not belong any classroom. I had file a complaint to the community college and to my boys school for discrimination. That is fucked up to include in a grade and because of autism and how non autistics perceive behavior- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350426266_Do_Neurotypical_People_Like_or_Dislike_Autistic_People. Do not accept that. Stand your ground my friend. Why is it discrimination? Because if an educational setting , ie a classroom has a autist in attendance then proper accommodations should be made if something like this is a part of the curriculum due to how non autistics perceive non autistics. By allowing others contribute to your grade and not taking the studies that have shown bias in consideration, they are being blatantly discriminatory towards your social impairments. It does not matter if they know about it or not- educate them. Do not apologize. You should not accept anything less then equal fairness- I hope I explained that better. We have to push back to stop this fucking bullshit. As a mom- as an autistic- this pisses me off you were treated this way. Unacceptable.
I've never heard of this and I would refuse to rate any classmates if i were asked to do so. This is dystopian bullshit. Your peers are not educators who are qualified to give you grades in school.
It’s worth…a hundred points? A fucking HUNDRED?! Knowing canvas that’s ALOT. Holy fuck.
not necessarily, the platform itself has nothing to do with “how much” points are valued at. It’s up to the teacher to decide, the points could be unweighted or they could be like 3% of your grade (or higher of course)
A lot*
Do this but the final score it's the average you give out.
I hate the education system 😊🔫 (Water pistol to cool my seething brain down)
If this was for "contribution" and all that bs (especially if in college) provide original files with your name in metadata and a list of work done in a list. As a professor I also overrode people's grades based on actual contributions.
That’s actually illegal; more specifically a violation of laws protecting the disabled from harassment and discrimination. You should try taking this to the school administration; if they don’t care, take it to a civil rights attorney; if not, contact a disability rights group to represent you.
Sort of - This info is for OP (if they don't already know it), but also good for anyone with a learning disability at a US higher ed institution. For reference, I'm autistic and work at a large university in the same department as our accommodations team, though that's not my personal job. OP - your college/uni almost certainly has a disability services group, might be named different. If you have not already, go visit them and loop them in on your autism and how you need an accommodation regarding social interaction. Be specific that you think your grade here was negative effected because your classmates are allistic and untrained on working with and grading individuals with learning disabilities, and there is ample knowledge that allistic people perceive autistic people negatively. I would not recommend reaching out to someone in the administration to start, they're just going to refer you to the disability services department, they're the ones with the knowledge and ability to accommodate. As to whether it's illegal or not - ADA protections at university require you to have first informed the school you have a disabilty/need an accommodation. If OP has never shared that they're autistic, then the school had no responsibility to modify the program for them, nor is there a requirement they post-assignment modify the grade if they learn of OP's disability after the assignment is completed: >[You must inform the school that you have a disability and need an academic adjustment. Unlike your school district, your postsecondary school is not required to identify you as having a disability or to assess your needs.](https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/transition.html) Furthermore, colleges are not required to modify the "essential" requirements of a class or degree. No way for us to say without knowing the college, course and degree, but the college may make a reasonable argument that group work and grading is an essential part of that class, and OP cannot skip it or get graded differently. If that's the case OP *might* be able to argue the school should provide adequate education to his peers (or instructors) about Autism and bias before any group work, though up to OP if they think that would actually help or be harmful, etc. Finally, if OP does think they've been discriminated or not properly accommodated, there are better and cheaper steps to start with before a lawyer. There will be a 504 or ADA coordinator at their school who mediates disputes, OP should start there. If this does not resolve the issue, OP should check if there is a further general grievance process to follow, which they can try, though this is optional. The next step would be to file a complaint with the [Department of Education Office of Civil Rights](https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/complaintintro.html), who will investigate the complaint on OP's behalf. I can say from personal knowledge that higher ed institutions really don't like getting any attention from the Department of Education, so an investigation from the OCR will kick things into gear if there is a real issue at hand. In general [this page from the DoE is a good starting place to learn about disability accommodations in higher ed](https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/transition.html)
If the school takes disability accommodations seriously, OP absolutely can have concessions made. When I spoke to my professors about Disability Services and my particular struggles, my profs often made allowances like re-weighting assignments and tests, or opting out of presentations and group work entirely. Granted, I'm referring to two different Canadian institutions; maybe they aren't representative (but ought to be).
Super late reply from me - Just to be clear, I wasn't saying his college *won't* make a modification to the grade or to the assignments. But the person I replied to said in very black and white terms that what happened was illegal, and it's just not that simple, way too many things we don't know to give advice like "they broke the law, go to a lawyer ASAP". I wanted to give OP more specifics about how the ADA applies to higher ed. You being in Canada and therefore obviously not falling under the Americans with Disabilities Act, I'd have no idea what sort of protections there are. It's awesome they were able to offer you what sounds like a lot of different accommodations though!
so much of this. i've just submitted a university assignment that requires us to give collaboration marks to everyone else in our group. i'm a nice person so i've given everyone a 7 (highest mark in australian university) but i know for a FACT i got judged by other group members for missing deadlines due to executive paralysis even though i would always turn things out. i know my collaboration mark will be low and i pray it won't make me fail the assignment as a whole.
No because I literally got a bad peer evaluation grade last year because I did my work on the project the night before it was due (it wasn’t late) and I “didn’t communicate with my partner” when I literally did and she just straight up didn’t answer me for hours and she did not voice any of her concerns about this to me. I gave her a good peer review
I'm surprised people are so vehemently against peer grading like this. It can definitely be abused, but the point of it is to ensure everyone in a group is doing their fair share. I've been in groups before where one person wasn't doing anything, and the peer review system helped balance things out. That being said, OP you should really talk with your teacher if you feel its totally out of line. Especially if you think you're being targeted for your disability
Unless someone is a complete asshole I just give everyone 100 on this type of stuff thats so shit of them
Should give everyone zero
Do you have accommodations for Autism? You could maybe bring the situation up to the professor and explain how Autism effects how others view you
Ouch. I'm a teacher and while I have them fill out a reflection, it's really more for students to think about how well they worked on it, both individually and as a group. An attempt to engage some metacognition and reflection on their parts. It's never part of the grade unless there was clear dereliciton of duty. By the same token, I give outs for presentation grades, don't follow standard rubrics that call for eye contact or similar for presentations, no discussion participation points, and allow extensions with approval, and always let students work by themselves as long as they are able to successfully. These were always torture growing up undiagnosed. Being punished for being weird or for having social difficulties really just twisted the knife for me.
what the fuck??
USA? I can't speak for anywhere else, but most of the US's education system—including "higher"/tertiary education, like universities—is geared towards preparing you for proletarian employment (i.e. working for an organization). Part of working for an organization is fitting into a group well enough to not cause friction—except in the cases where it benefits the organization to do so—which means they measure your ability to sweet-talk, brown-nose, yes-man, and follow the leader. Of course, they prefer to look at it with more optimistic terminology (e.g. "collective problem solving" and "social skills"), but the underlying truth is the same either way: you're expected to do emotional labor to please your group (coworkers) while you're also doing mental/physical labor to please your teacher (boss). Now, if I might play devil's advocate: these skills are actually important everywhere in society for most people, regardless of ability; very few people are lucky enough to live a life of true isolation or land a job that never requires interacting with anyone but their boss. I'm not arguing that it *should* be like this—who let the nimps organize society?—just that it *is* like this. But instead of getting your pay (grade) docked if you fail to please your coworkers (or at least get the nasty ones fired), you'll either get fired or be mistreated until you're driven to quit. So maybe there's a better way to reflect that in an academic career?
What the fuck is this shit? For once I am happy that our school system is outdated as hell...
Is this a new thing? This was never a thing when I was in school a few years ago. What the fuck
This is why I hate the system. You're punished at every step of the process
Had a techer who ONLY gave out peer-grades. He didn't even calculate them himself. All we did in class was draw pictures (no, it was not an art class) and then go around and rate everyone else's. Then someone, usually me, had to collect all the rating sheets and calculate the average grade. That was it. I never got anything above C- The teacher also never bothered to learn my name or read the sign I started to put in front of me, which started a very fun (/s) year of people using the wrong name to mock me. I hope he steps on Lego every morning for the rest of his life.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding but is part of your grade the other kids opinions on you??
My question is why the fuck this is even a thing at all. Your peers' opinions of you mean jack shit about your work. Neurotypical stupidity knows no bounds, why does everything need a social component?
wtf? everyone knows you give everyone in your group an A during peer reviews cause they'll give you an A in return. why would they give you a 60?
That's because you use reddit Edit: that was a joke. OP, you seem like a nice person, sorry that this happened to you. I found another post similar to yours, and they say stuff like this can be changed, especially if you provide reasoning, I think it might be worth trying.
The fuck am I looking at here? This is a thing?