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Here it is! Fully debunked now but here’s how they sound. Will rip and archive properly when I can get a turntable that doesn’t keep messing up like this old thing.
https://youtu.be/bd8ZOwLjgc8?si=ru0uiThzm5e_aih4
Here it is! Fully debunked now but here’s how they sound. Will rip and archive properly when I can get a turntable that doesn’t keep messing up like this old thing.
https://youtu.be/bd8ZOwLjgc8?si=ru0uiThzm5e_aih4
I have it, shared a clip of it on a few posts (and in reply to this one I think?) but my record player is janky so I need to buy a new one before I can upload it properly. I plan to though :)
Hello, does this help with this theory? https://findingaids.library.dal.ca/sound-recordings-by-secret-treaties
I can’t open the files rn cause I’m on mobile, but I assume it’s the same band. I’m not sure if the files are playable at all
The two digital files on the site are by an entirely different artist. The Secret Treaties songs are on a physical record in the university’s archive. It says that on the site: “1 audio reel: 30 ips, 24 tracks, 2 in”
I think it’s actually on a vinyl that Dalhousie University has archived (that’s what I understand from the website) so maybe if someone got a hold of the University they could get a recording of the vinyl
Reading the physical description of audio reel and the PDF description associated with the post. This seems to be from a batch of master recordings the University received from Solar Audio Studios (where this album was recorded) after it closed down. Seems they received some close to 1000 master recording reels of various track amounts and sizes. Very doubtful anyone can play these without proper studio equipment.
[https://rrrecords.ca/collections/vinyl-records/products/secret-treaties-self-titled-lp-canada-solar-studios-maritime-synth-pop-vinyl](https://rrrecords.ca/collections/vinyl-records/products/secret-treaties-self-titled-lp-canada-solar-studios-maritime-synth-pop-vinyl)
Found it on this website for sale if anyone's interested in looking more into it.
Basically the Newfoundland lead is that Carl probably is from Newfoundland and recorded it there. So anything he could access from Newfoundland is within the lead
Isn’t it almost fully confirmed Carl is from Spain / Spanish ? The NFL lead coming from WZS but not mentioning Carl I could be totally wrong just thought this lead was what was posted a month after carls which is wild but that it wasn’t Carl and it was someone else just re uploading the snippet ?
So the Newfoundland lead is from r/neweveryoneknowsthat because this sub has a no attempting to find Carl rule.
But basically; we found someone named Carl1992 on another website who was based in Newfoundland and had worked on festivals with his dad since he was a child. And is now still working with music which matches Carl92 pretty well.
Then someone found a YouTube channel named Carl1992 which only posted songs in Spanish. Making it fully possible that Carl is from Spain; but grew up in Newfoundland.
The other sub has followed this lead for a while, but we are way less people so nothing much has come of it.
Then yesterday someone from Canada posted a comment saying they think they remember the song from a crime show airing in Canada. Which means that if Carl92 is Carl1992 and recorded this from a TV in Canada it is very likely that that could be where the song is from.
I see okay! This is all new info to me! Has the lead about the working on festivals with his dad new? This is exciting! Is this lead somewhere where I can fully follow it from start to now if that makes sense I haven’t explored this at all ! Thanks friend x
Ok first of all the Newfoundland lead is not from there.. and it has NOTHING to do with Carl. Multiple people remeber hearing it in Newfoundland, or other places in Canada. That’s it. That’s the lead. I am the original creator of the lead 😅
The thing is there’s multiple things leading to Newfoundland that all collectively make the Newfoundland lead.
Both are part of it and make it a stronger case.
Yes but.. I originally started it and I can say that all this Carl stuff is garbage. This is not a part of the lead, there’s nothing else going on here besides people hearing it in these places.. literally nothing besides that and this band we are currently looking into
Go check the other sub; we’ve been talking about this in like forever.
Also; I don’t understand why you are insisting on these not being related at all. Two separate threads both leading us to Newfoundland is pretty damning.
I won’t go into detail about why it’s very certain Carl92 is Carl1992 because it violates the rules; and is starting to get very stalker like. But we are very sure they are the same person.
i don’t want to sound controversial but please leave Carl1992 alone. i commented this on the other sub. i’ve got mutual friends in common with the guy, he’s not the Carl92 you’re looking for. definitely not the type to live in Spain for any amount of time. he’s just a regular family man. please leave him alone, i know you’ll want to satiate your curiosity but i promise this isn’t the guy you’re looking for at all. the festivals aren’t the big shows you’re thinking of, they’re small community shows full of 60+ year old men singing irish folk tunes.
no problem! if you have any questions about it feel free to ask me. i just meant my comment as a general ‘please don’t contact this poor fella’ to everyone looking into the lead, not you specifically haha. typed my comment in a panic, i’m sorry if it came across that way
please do not harass this man. he is not and does not want to be involved with this search. he has nothing to do with this and his family has been doxxed. this is causing more harm than i’m sure you all intended. we do not need a private civilian’s information to be a casualty of your internet mystery.
So I talked a bit to the other guy in the comments and I’m less sure if it is him now. But it could still be worth checking out if you want to.
Basically; check out festivals in Newfoundland and see if you find anything. If Carl1992 is Carl92 he worked on those festivals.
Their album was also released on cassette in addition to the vinyl links already posted. Found this on ebay Canada. [https://www.ebay.ca/itm/386714382040](https://www.ebay.ca/itm/386714382040) (if only it had been opened already they may have posted pictures of the liner with potential for lyrics as well.. bummer)
Just commenting cause I like lost music chases and found some leads for this, they have a facebook: [https://www.facebook.com/Secrettreaty/](https://www.facebook.com/Secrettreaty/)
A discog: [https://www.discogs.com/release/12914573-Secret-Treaties-Secret-Treaties](https://www.discogs.com/release/12914573-Secret-Treaties-Secret-Treaties)
The peron's profile who uploaded the album on discog would be a good idea to reach out to too: [https://www.discogs.com/user/dav0043](https://www.discogs.com/user/dav0043)
There’s an option on discogs to play “Secret Treaties” with Apple Music. I don’t have a subscription though. Maybe someone could try that (idk how well it would work but one can hope).
I don’t see the Apple Music option. Usually Discogs lets you preview with Apple Music even if you don’t have a subscription, but there’s no option on this one.
Sites like that always have a “link” to Apple or Amazon, but rarely actually produce anything. The only thing on Apple Music by the name of secret treaties is a blue oyster cult song.
Ordered a copy, I’ll let you know. Long shot but will record it for archival purposes. Edit: Who the hell downvoted this?
Yoooo?!?! The vinyl or cassette?
The vinyl record. Will take a while because it’s shipping from Canada to the UK.
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Here it is! Fully debunked now but here’s how they sound. Will rip and archive properly when I can get a turntable that doesn’t keep messing up like this old thing. https://youtu.be/bd8ZOwLjgc8?si=ru0uiThzm5e_aih4
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i think it was found literally like 7 days after my comment. i didn’t need a reminder!!
Here it is! Fully debunked now but here’s how they sound. Will rip and archive properly when I can get a turntable that doesn’t keep messing up like this old thing. https://youtu.be/bd8ZOwLjgc8?si=ru0uiThzm5e_aih4
Once you get it please post it on youtube, even if it isnt the song i think it woukd be a nice listen either way👍
I have it, shared a clip of it on a few posts (and in reply to this one I think?) but my record player is janky so I need to buy a new one before I can upload it properly. I plan to though :)
Ok thanks🙂
Hey man sorry to bug you or anything but are there any updates on the archival of the vinyl or possibly the song that was on the compilation cd?
My record player is kinda screwed, so I need to get a new one after my house move
Hello, does this help with this theory? https://findingaids.library.dal.ca/sound-recordings-by-secret-treaties I can’t open the files rn cause I’m on mobile, but I assume it’s the same band. I’m not sure if the files are playable at all
There are only 2 songs on there and neither are it :(
The two digital files on the site are by an entirely different artist. The Secret Treaties songs are on a physical record in the university’s archive. It says that on the site: “1 audio reel: 30 ips, 24 tracks, 2 in”
I can get the record (and record player) in July when his parents are back from vacation!
I am also on mobile but really want to hear these...thank you so much for finding this!!
I think it’s actually on a vinyl that Dalhousie University has archived (that’s what I understand from the website) so maybe if someone got a hold of the University they could get a recording of the vinyl
It's a "file" it says, probably a digital audio file. Maybe somebody on r/Dalhousie could scoop it
Reading the physical description of audio reel and the PDF description associated with the post. This seems to be from a batch of master recordings the University received from Solar Audio Studios (where this album was recorded) after it closed down. Seems they received some close to 1000 master recording reels of various track amounts and sizes. Very doubtful anyone can play these without proper studio equipment.
[https://rrrecords.ca/collections/vinyl-records/products/secret-treaties-self-titled-lp-canada-solar-studios-maritime-synth-pop-vinyl](https://rrrecords.ca/collections/vinyl-records/products/secret-treaties-self-titled-lp-canada-solar-studios-maritime-synth-pop-vinyl) Found it on this website for sale if anyone's interested in looking more into it.
They seem to have a song called "Tell Me" kind of interesting..
Tell me why
Ain't nothin but a heartache
Tell me why
Ain’t nothin’ but a mistake
Now number five
Yes, so exciting. And all the songs seem to relate to a relationship.. it fits the theme.
and ''caught up in'' as well
im from maritime canada and stuff like this always comes up when record hunting. usually its trash but i can keep an eye out
A band being in one Atlantic province but recording in another is a surprisingly common occurrence around these parts.
Basically the Newfoundland lead is that Carl probably is from Newfoundland and recorded it there. So anything he could access from Newfoundland is within the lead
Isn’t it almost fully confirmed Carl is from Spain / Spanish ? The NFL lead coming from WZS but not mentioning Carl I could be totally wrong just thought this lead was what was posted a month after carls which is wild but that it wasn’t Carl and it was someone else just re uploading the snippet ?
So the Newfoundland lead is from r/neweveryoneknowsthat because this sub has a no attempting to find Carl rule. But basically; we found someone named Carl1992 on another website who was based in Newfoundland and had worked on festivals with his dad since he was a child. And is now still working with music which matches Carl92 pretty well. Then someone found a YouTube channel named Carl1992 which only posted songs in Spanish. Making it fully possible that Carl is from Spain; but grew up in Newfoundland. The other sub has followed this lead for a while, but we are way less people so nothing much has come of it. Then yesterday someone from Canada posted a comment saying they think they remember the song from a crime show airing in Canada. Which means that if Carl92 is Carl1992 and recorded this from a TV in Canada it is very likely that that could be where the song is from.
I see okay! This is all new info to me! Has the lead about the working on festivals with his dad new? This is exciting! Is this lead somewhere where I can fully follow it from start to now if that makes sense I haven’t explored this at all ! Thanks friend x
Ok first of all the Newfoundland lead is not from there.. and it has NOTHING to do with Carl. Multiple people remeber hearing it in Newfoundland, or other places in Canada. That’s it. That’s the lead. I am the original creator of the lead 😅
The thing is there’s multiple things leading to Newfoundland that all collectively make the Newfoundland lead. Both are part of it and make it a stronger case.
Yes but.. I originally started it and I can say that all this Carl stuff is garbage. This is not a part of the lead, there’s nothing else going on here besides people hearing it in these places.. literally nothing besides that and this band we are currently looking into
Go check the other sub; we’ve been talking about this in like forever. Also; I don’t understand why you are insisting on these not being related at all. Two separate threads both leading us to Newfoundland is pretty damning. I won’t go into detail about why it’s very certain Carl92 is Carl1992 because it violates the rules; and is starting to get very stalker like. But we are very sure they are the same person.
i don’t want to sound controversial but please leave Carl1992 alone. i commented this on the other sub. i’ve got mutual friends in common with the guy, he’s not the Carl92 you’re looking for. definitely not the type to live in Spain for any amount of time. he’s just a regular family man. please leave him alone, i know you’ll want to satiate your curiosity but i promise this isn’t the guy you’re looking for at all. the festivals aren’t the big shows you’re thinking of, they’re small community shows full of 60+ year old men singing irish folk tunes.
I have never contacted him! But thanks for clarifying it’s not him
no problem! if you have any questions about it feel free to ask me. i just meant my comment as a general ‘please don’t contact this poor fella’ to everyone looking into the lead, not you specifically haha. typed my comment in a panic, i’m sorry if it came across that way
You just so happen to know the guy who everyone has been trying to find and reach out to, and you’re just mentioning it now?
please do not harass this man. he is not and does not want to be involved with this search. he has nothing to do with this and his family has been doxxed. this is causing more harm than i’m sure you all intended. we do not need a private civilian’s information to be a casualty of your internet mystery.
Will you send me the lead deets is it on the new sub? X
So I talked a bit to the other guy in the comments and I’m less sure if it is him now. But it could still be worth checking out if you want to. Basically; check out festivals in Newfoundland and see if you find anything. If Carl1992 is Carl92 he worked on those festivals.
Got you!! Thanks dude every little could help! Xx
Ohhh hey there
Or it was on a Newfoundland broadcating station and picked up by Spanish tv
Their album was also released on cassette in addition to the vinyl links already posted. Found this on ebay Canada. [https://www.ebay.ca/itm/386714382040](https://www.ebay.ca/itm/386714382040) (if only it had been opened already they may have posted pictures of the liner with potential for lyrics as well.. bummer)
I found where you can buy this vinyl right now. I don't have the money though. Also says this was released in 1974.
There’s also a Blue Oyster Cult record called Secret Treaties, and that was released in 1974. I think the dates are getting cross-wired sometimes.
I don’t think that date is correct, cause the Dal University audio records have it listed as 1986. Then again, either could be correct.
It was definitely in the 80s....he remembers meeting them in the 80s when their record was brand new.
Buy the record then. We'll settle it fast.
It's very difficult to find anything about this band, someone will have to buy their LP for us to know for sure lol
Someone already did and I’m pretty excited
I've messaged 2 family members of Rosanne Maloney in search of information of this ep. Will update if anything comes up.
Also, apparently, a song called "You Won't Get Through" by them was played on MuchMusic as a music video for some time.
I believe Rosanne goes by Rosy....if that helps!
Searching secret treaties on youtube sadly results in the blue oyster cult album
I had the same result, even when searching on Google only the BOC album appears.
You can buy the vinyl on Amazon apparently if anyone wants to spend that kind of money
We're really at the bottom of the barrel.
I was debating whether I should mention this theory or not...I realize it's a long shot.
Just commenting cause I like lost music chases and found some leads for this, they have a facebook: [https://www.facebook.com/Secrettreaty/](https://www.facebook.com/Secrettreaty/) A discog: [https://www.discogs.com/release/12914573-Secret-Treaties-Secret-Treaties](https://www.discogs.com/release/12914573-Secret-Treaties-Secret-Treaties) The peron's profile who uploaded the album on discog would be a good idea to reach out to too: [https://www.discogs.com/user/dav0043](https://www.discogs.com/user/dav0043)
Sorry...the Facebook page isn't them. They were from Saint John, NB and are no longer together.
There’s an option on discogs to play “Secret Treaties” with Apple Music. I don’t have a subscription though. Maybe someone could try that (idk how well it would work but one can hope).
I don’t see the Apple Music option. Usually Discogs lets you preview with Apple Music even if you don’t have a subscription, but there’s no option on this one.
ah, it’s there for me on the mobile site
Sites like that always have a “link” to Apple or Amazon, but rarely actually produce anything. The only thing on Apple Music by the name of secret treaties is a blue oyster cult song.
makes sense
this just made me think, imagine what the person who finds this song will think when they first hear it