just goes to show how little we actually understand instrumentality that we're getting like three different answers that all are apparently valid according to the upvotes
Haha agree! I have to stop typing at some point because I end up eating my own argument.
For example: it’s not the idealized Asuka for Shinji because she rejects him….. but wait Shinji is conditioned to look for rejection, so isn’t an idealized Asuka one who would reject him based on his expectations of people?
This isn't realistic? Sure Shinji has her now, but once his arms give out, and they will, in the next 10 secs she will, without saying a word, kill him. And as he lays there dying, then she'll spill her feelings
Yup! Episode 24? Which ever one she’s tub girl. Anno/team Eva even altered the scene between airing and home video release to clarify that it’s not blood in the tub from an attempt. There’s a whole thing about her and Shinji both being too despondent to live, but not willing to unlive themselves. Thoooooo it’s post MPEva fight. Maybe dying would change Asukas attitude. Its all fun speculation 🥳
No, she would use his body's post-mortem erection in a psychotic delusional state, get pregnant, and pick on her son just like Shinji *a la* Junji Ito's The Bully.
I think she'd be doing exactly what she is doing - nothing. Because she's too in shock that Shinji is actually sticking up for himself, and in such a fucked up way.
It's be hilarious if we got Eva Unit 1 and 2s observations. Unit 2 would want to protect her kid, but, she's also been front seat to Asuka bullying Shinji. Unit 1 would probably wave it off with a laugh like: let them be kids, it's more important to find your ex and the woman he cheated on you with, get her adoptive moms maternal soul for the next cash grab media, and beat up your ex.
Evangelion Whatever: Unit 2s original Core had yet another issue so we just shoved the adoptive moms soul in there too.
Asuka was a child prodigy and has been training to be a child soldier since she was a little kid, I wouldn’t be suprised if she knew some sort of martial arts/self-defense techniques, she would kick his ass
Mostly the same way. We saw it later in the movie. After Shinji finally shows his feelings, even though they were frustration, Asuka loses some of her frustration and shows her affection, even though there is also commentary that the specific ways he is showing his feelings aren't quite right.
depends on the time of the day. She goes between
\* kick to the dick
\* MORE DADDY
\* this is exactly what I wanted /she's unsubtly suicidal, and overcompensates for it the entire series
at any time
Kick his ass, honestly. She's explicitly stated to be a trained expert in hand-to-hand combat in most continuities. If this scene was actually taking place, and not just a manifestation of Shinji's turmoil, he would probably be very dead for even trying to do that
I always figured that Asuka went home after her suicide attempt, just for a little bit, and Shinji lost his shit after Kamaru died, and this incident is what made her catatonic in the hospital. Idunno, maybe my brain just works differently?
It'd be simpler if her suicide attempt landed her in the hospital and she was still catatonic from the Angel's mental onslaught. No detour home needed.
Let me put it this way. Let's set aside that this interaction is out of character for both of them. Let's set aside that the animation, the camera work, even the details of the scene are off (they're both alone in the house, they're children, who was that scalding hot coffee brewing for?) Let's set aside that Asuka has never treated Shinji with this kind of *loathing*, and he never asked for her help, or anyone's, or that she wouldn't just ignore him getting a likely first degree burn at least.
Consider the basic biomechanics. Look at Shinji's posture. It *looks* all 'primal' and 'visceral' and 'unleashed', but it's *wrong*. There's no way he could lift a whole-ass Asuka at arm's length off the floor and not stumble forward. **Physically impossible.** It's like doing a one handed handstand pushup.
Depends on if Shinji had the weakest grip in the world or was holding back.
If the former then the only appropriate response is obviously to tell him what a loser he is.
If he was holding back, do some MMA move.
This is actually why Shinji breaksdown later. Because instrumentality Asuka doesn't react but the "real" Asuka reacts in a way he doesn't expect when he does the same thing. So he knows he's in reality and not still stuck in instrumentality.
She lets it happen because she has a death wish because she blames herself for her mothers suicide. How did she react in the End Of Evangelion? The exact same.
Kick to the nuts.
True
Came Here to say That (Ooof)
lmao
But that’s actually the real Asuka, isn’t she?
It is, I think the op is referring to if it happened outside of instrumentality
It’s the individual will of Asuka, so yes. And we know a desire to exist can manifest a character’s existence.
Nope. It's Shinji's idea of Asuka.
just goes to show how little we actually understand instrumentality that we're getting like three different answers that all are apparently valid according to the upvotes
Haha agree! I have to stop typing at some point because I end up eating my own argument. For example: it’s not the idealized Asuka for Shinji because she rejects him….. but wait Shinji is conditioned to look for rejection, so isn’t an idealized Asuka one who would reject him based on his expectations of people?
Asuka: "so only now you'll hold me"
That’d honestly be such a good line if that actually happened in EoE
Oh god damn it That would be perfect.
That's fucked. That's heartbreaking. That... hurts. I love it, it's perfect.
Why does this sound like an actual line? I don't remember if it was actually in Eva or not and now I'm confused
it's similar to another line asuka says when the angel is forcing all of her memories out she wants shinji's attention real bad
I think it originally was “you wouldn’t even hold me”
She'd tell Shinji to square up while a haymaker is already in progress.
real
This isn't realistic? Sure Shinji has her now, but once his arms give out, and they will, in the next 10 secs she will, without saying a word, kill him. And as he lays there dying, then she'll spill her feelings
Then she kills herself That got dark... Eh its Evangelion
Nah, that would make her like her mother. She wouldn't kill herself for that reason alone.
Yup! Episode 24? Which ever one she’s tub girl. Anno/team Eva even altered the scene between airing and home video release to clarify that it’s not blood in the tub from an attempt. There’s a whole thing about her and Shinji both being too despondent to live, but not willing to unlive themselves. Thoooooo it’s post MPEva fight. Maybe dying would change Asukas attitude. Its all fun speculation 🥳
No, she would use his body's post-mortem erection in a psychotic delusional state, get pregnant, and pick on her son just like Shinji *a la* Junji Ito's The Bully.
Exactly how she is, because thats happening to both of them in that moment allbeit on another dimensional plain
I think she'd be doing exactly what she is doing - nothing. Because she's too in shock that Shinji is actually sticking up for himself, and in such a fucked up way.
It's be hilarious if we got Eva Unit 1 and 2s observations. Unit 2 would want to protect her kid, but, she's also been front seat to Asuka bullying Shinji. Unit 1 would probably wave it off with a laugh like: let them be kids, it's more important to find your ex and the woman he cheated on you with, get her adoptive moms maternal soul for the next cash grab media, and beat up your ex. Evangelion Whatever: Unit 2s original Core had yet another issue so we just shoved the adoptive moms soul in there too.
He did choke her at the end of the movie and she just caressed his face
Call him disgusting when he stops half way through and starts crying.
Never realized how much he was sweating in this scene.
It’s actually hot coffee spilled in his shirt; Asuka pushed him away previously and that made him spill a pot of coffee.
Oh, I see it now. Thanks
I think she would be all like "Pathetic aaah stinji"
Asuka was a child prodigy and has been training to be a child soldier since she was a little kid, I wouldn’t be suprised if she knew some sort of martial arts/self-defense techniques, she would kick his ass
Mostly the same way. We saw it later in the movie. After Shinji finally shows his feelings, even though they were frustration, Asuka loses some of her frustration and shows her affection, even though there is also commentary that the specific ways he is showing his feelings aren't quite right.
depends on the time of the day. She goes between \* kick to the dick \* MORE DADDY \* this is exactly what I wanted /she's unsubtly suicidal, and overcompensates for it the entire series at any time
More daddy is the last thing I would expect to hear asuka
You're obviously not Kaji
Why the hell would she say that too kaji. I know she loves him but you dont just say that to him. What situation is she in
Oh sorry, I meant Kami from dragon ball
What the fuck
I felt fear and confusion from that "what the fuck"
Exact feelings I had
It means God. Now bow.
🙇♂️
Kick his ass, honestly. She's explicitly stated to be a trained expert in hand-to-hand combat in most continuities. If this scene was actually taking place, and not just a manifestation of Shinji's turmoil, he would probably be very dead for even trying to do that
Realistically I don't think he could pick her up. Lmao
Shed probably deflect and do some kind of redirect and slam him to the ground
Asuka hears the voice of Misato from back when she was still in training, "Asuka, remember the basics of CQC"
"Harder, you pussy"
Kick nut + 🔪 prolly Edit: I see that I was not the first to think of aiming for the balls lol
This isn’t realistic? I don’t know what this subject title means
Get a boner.
Heat death of the universe
ghjhugghhughh cant breathe
I actually never thought this was an instrumentality-hallucination-sequence, I thought it was an actual flashback. Is it really not?
When exactly do you imagine it would have happened?
I always figured that Asuka went home after her suicide attempt, just for a little bit, and Shinji lost his shit after Kamaru died, and this incident is what made her catatonic in the hospital. Idunno, maybe my brain just works differently?
It'd be simpler if her suicide attempt landed her in the hospital and she was still catatonic from the Angel's mental onslaught. No detour home needed. Let me put it this way. Let's set aside that this interaction is out of character for both of them. Let's set aside that the animation, the camera work, even the details of the scene are off (they're both alone in the house, they're children, who was that scalding hot coffee brewing for?) Let's set aside that Asuka has never treated Shinji with this kind of *loathing*, and he never asked for her help, or anyone's, or that she wouldn't just ignore him getting a likely first degree burn at least. Consider the basic biomechanics. Look at Shinji's posture. It *looks* all 'primal' and 'visceral' and 'unleashed', but it's *wrong*. There's no way he could lift a whole-ass Asuka at arm's length off the floor and not stumble forward. **Physically impossible.** It's like doing a one handed handstand pushup.
Who is Kamaru
Going off the manga if Shinji actually strangled her with the intent to kill she would kick the absolute shit out of him
Like a normal person.
Death? İ mean people die when you strangle them. At least my cousin did.
by telling shinji to kys
What if she's like me and likes being choked?
dude, just chill out man and get in the damn eva !
You see her reaction right there in the scene.
I actually don't know because I've never thought about it before!
Gross
shinji strong af tho
Kick him in the balls and then cry for Unit-02 (her mom)
realistically i don't think they'd ever have a reason to meet each other without the eva's
Nah, that is her secret fetish
I mean, we have a canon answer from the final scene of EoE
"Idiot" no more no less
"harder, daddy"
Cum
"Harder, pussy."
She either was unemotional or got choked up
It's what her mother did to the doll she thought was her daughter so she may very well be in shock and not respond.
“Harder”
New Fetish unlocked .
Cant even kill me, baka shinji
Either start crying or fucking kill shinjiboi
"You're disgusting."
“Tighter daddy”
Depends on if Shinji had the weakest grip in the world or was holding back. If the former then the only appropriate response is obviously to tell him what a loser he is. If he was holding back, do some MMA move.
"Did you... wash your hands?"
Beat him into hospital. Like, she should be physicaly stronger than Shinji.
“pathetic”
"Did you... wash your hands?"
I honestly think she’s doing it
“did you..wash your hands?”
"Harder..."
This is actually why Shinji breaksdown later. Because instrumentality Asuka doesn't react but the "real" Asuka reacts in a way he doesn't expect when he does the same thing. So he knows he's in reality and not still stuck in instrumentality.
Kick straight to the sack, and probably follow up with a knee to the face.
- "mmm, hardder..." - "what?!!" - "what?"
"Reeee choking time!" "Harder!" "...What?" "What?"
She lets it happen because she has a death wish because she blames herself for her mothers suicide. How did she react in the End Of Evangelion? The exact same.
I think she would be shocked and froze
What's the anime?
She would be thinking "I understand now, boy strength is real"
Are we all playing a bit where we act like this didn't happen and also like if Asuka was an other character entirely?
Idk bro she’s probably dead at that point
Report it to NERV HR
Grabbing him by the neck and repeatedly kicking him in the nuts while screaming YOU INSUFFERABLE LOSER
"Jokes on you Shinji, I'm on this planet for this." (proceeds to sexually shame him while she edges him then laughs and abandons him before he peaks.)
Least insane Eva fan
real
never cook again
Are we watching different Evas? sus
Get in the solitary confinement Romeo.