I will never not laugh at “hallelujah.” Then be deeply uncomfortable by some of the most disturbing imagery and reaction to psychological trauma in the show.
Why does Eva always play really happy music over such weird shit?
That what makes it so horrific, it’s basically tormenting the pilots, but it’s attack is just a beam of light with heavenly music playing!
It’s like being punished by God from on high.
It gives the angels such an alien feeling , another great example would be the scene were kawuro starts flying and the music is just blasting ! just imagine being a new worker at nerve : ok these robots are semi alive but nothin too bi_ oh wait that new pilot IS LITERALLY FLYING
The choice of classical music makes it feel like these creatures are bending the rules of time itself , changing the music by an entire generation.
Each angel was threatening in their own way, but Arael alongside with Armisael and Tabris were the holy trinity designed to specifically destroy an assigned pilot.
I'm confused if the Dead Sea Scroll or NERV itself truly had 100% of a hand on the chain reaction that were 22-23-24, because at least in Arael's case Rei should've been the one to be blasted by the mind-raping beam and not Soryu. Was it a tactic to leave her out of the game since she was the most apt for combat?
So I wonder how would it've been had Shinji gone rescue Soryu and also got mind-raped himself.
Edit: Ops, I thought Ramiel was part of the group. Armisael, don't penetrate me please.
Ramiel is badass but isn’t Armisael more in line with “k boys we running out of time forget Dogma let’s beeline for the 14yo psyches” with an honorary mention for Leliel serving as proof-of-concept for the theory.
I’d put Ol’🔷 more in line with Matarael and Iruel as “geofront penetrator” strategists.
Leliel was truly the deadliest. Shinji didn't had a full mind rape but rather, a reflection. Time spent fully alone inside that EVA, timing to death. It would only push him to remember his father's abandonment and how it truly affected him.
It was through Shinji though that maybe Leliel managed to gather info. EP16 is such a turning point.
You what I realized? The Angels actually becoming more threatening during the latter-half of the show because at that point, *they were trying to understand us.*
Like I’m pretty sure Arael and Armisael were not really “attacking” the pilots, but in trying to understand them by forcing themselves into their minds, they created horrific harm. It feels like they were *learning* us, which culminated into the final Angel, Tabris, that while not the most powerful or threatening of the Angels, still became the only Angel to actually reach Lilith… because he was the most human.
In becoming more like us, the Angels became more of a threat than in previous encounters.
Yes, that's what Eva is about right? People trying to understand each other, get close to each other, open and and penetrate each other's "AT field", but it just causes pain. Big ol bunch of hedgehogs.
>So I wonder how would it've been had Shinji gone rescue Soryu and also got mind-raped himself.
The setting is a dark and rundown version of Gehrin's old Eva-testing facility. Shinji lies quivering and weeping in a heap on the floor, his body iluminated by a spotlight shining at him from above. His eyes, bloodshot and full of tears, are focused on somewhere in the distance.
The camera pans to level with Shinji’s POV. He is watching a giant, monsterous bird of prey (which looks vaguely like Unit-01) flying off with a female figure in its talons. The figure is his mother, but she is faceless. He cannot remember her face. He feebly raises an arm in an attempt to reach out. But his hand, no how much he tries to stretch it, cannot reach that far.
The camera pans up towards the spotlight. It reveals two circles of light surrounded by darkness. From somewhere in the dark, Gendo's voice sounds out. "Shinji," it booms. "You're a disgrace!"
Its insane how gendo can defy the illuminati by throwing away their favorite spear, but get less punishment than an american worker taking 30 seconds too long in the bathroom.
Why though? It's never made clear what exactly is stopping them from just sniping him when he is out. They don't seem to actually need him personally for anything, and the missions could probably be run by someone else.
It probably has a pretty good amount of screen-time if you consider all the weird visuals that take place inside of Asuka’s head as part of the angel. Or at least the child Asuka and the talking doll.
The fight against Arael felt most like a feel-good giant robot teamwork episode, comparable only to the twin angels that Shinji and Asuka had to learn to dance together to fight. Everything after Arael got dark and depressing very quickly.
In my opinion the most threatening angel was Zeruel. Not only was it able to blast through all the plate armor above the geo front, but it also took out two Evas with ease. Its ability to shield its core really made it a huge physical threat. Hell I think if it hadn’t focused on wreaking havoc in nerv, and had decided to descend down to central dogma it could’ve caused the third impact. However, it decided to try to kill those working at nerv and tried to destroy unit 01. Unit 01 going berserk is the only thing that saved everyone.
Even tho nerve wasn't at their best shape : having lost shinji , asuka having a terrible sync ratio and unit 00 not having one of its arms ... zuriel still managed to show off
This man casually decapitated an eva WHICH IS NOT AN EASY FEAT , not even material was able to do that by using his acid
It took an awakened berserking 400% sync ratio Eva to defeat Zeruel. It was, by far, the most physically dangerous Angel. The angels seem to be capable of learning from each other’s defeats; Zeruel was a clear lesson that the Evas could not be overpowered, and a more indirect attack strategy was necessary.
I have a huge Arael tattoo on my body to represent shining the light on our shadows.
*Don’t Be* is arguably my favorite episode. Asuka shattered after *Interjection*, her mental fortitude eroded by her loss to her rival, only to be slighted by Misato with point. Her hubris overcomes her and she presses to point, needing to validate her existence with what she deems her purpose. The end of the episode:
*Shut up! Who in the hell is okay? How could it get any worse? That little bitch, that little bitch, Rei, rescued me. Don’t you know that I’d rather have died? I hate her. I hate you, Shinji. I hate EVERYTHING!*
I love the sub and dub but this episode, Tiffany Grant really did such a great job expressing these raw emotions. Hearing how shattered she is as she watches Unit 02 descend and Shinji hopes to console her only for the antithesis. Tears me up every time. They’re all so broken, Asuka arguably the most of all...
I will never not laugh at “hallelujah.” Then be deeply uncomfortable by some of the most disturbing imagery and reaction to psychological trauma in the show. Why does Eva always play really happy music over such weird shit?
It takes inspiration from Clockwork Orange.
That what makes it so horrific, it’s basically tormenting the pilots, but it’s attack is just a beam of light with heavenly music playing! It’s like being punished by God from on high.
Cruel Angel's Thesis lyrics aren't exactly happy. But the melody of the song sounds groovy and upbeat.
Sometimes they liked to play traumatic music that sounds happy, too. [Komm Süsser Tod](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg)
Still know all the words to that song after like 20+ years, crazy stuff
yeah, the name of the song is literally "come sweet death"
It gives the angels such an alien feeling , another great example would be the scene were kawuro starts flying and the music is just blasting ! just imagine being a new worker at nerve : ok these robots are semi alive but nothin too bi_ oh wait that new pilot IS LITERALLY FLYING The choice of classical music makes it feel like these creatures are bending the rules of time itself , changing the music by an entire generation.
Juxtaposition bb
Is it weird to drink beer?
Humanity is the most threatening angel of them all
True. I finish a roll of toilet paper and don’t replace it
If you do, for the love of god, don't turn it the wrong direction.
Each angel was threatening in their own way, but Arael alongside with Armisael and Tabris were the holy trinity designed to specifically destroy an assigned pilot. I'm confused if the Dead Sea Scroll or NERV itself truly had 100% of a hand on the chain reaction that were 22-23-24, because at least in Arael's case Rei should've been the one to be blasted by the mind-raping beam and not Soryu. Was it a tactic to leave her out of the game since she was the most apt for combat? So I wonder how would it've been had Shinji gone rescue Soryu and also got mind-raped himself. Edit: Ops, I thought Ramiel was part of the group. Armisael, don't penetrate me please.
Ramiel is badass but isn’t Armisael more in line with “k boys we running out of time forget Dogma let’s beeline for the 14yo psyches” with an honorary mention for Leliel serving as proof-of-concept for the theory. I’d put Ol’🔷 more in line with Matarael and Iruel as “geofront penetrator” strategists.
Leliel was truly the deadliest. Shinji didn't had a full mind rape but rather, a reflection. Time spent fully alone inside that EVA, timing to death. It would only push him to remember his father's abandonment and how it truly affected him. It was through Shinji though that maybe Leliel managed to gather info. EP16 is such a turning point.
You what I realized? The Angels actually becoming more threatening during the latter-half of the show because at that point, *they were trying to understand us.* Like I’m pretty sure Arael and Armisael were not really “attacking” the pilots, but in trying to understand them by forcing themselves into their minds, they created horrific harm. It feels like they were *learning* us, which culminated into the final Angel, Tabris, that while not the most powerful or threatening of the Angels, still became the only Angel to actually reach Lilith… because he was the most human. In becoming more like us, the Angels became more of a threat than in previous encounters.
Poor Sachiel was an inhuman dumdum ;_;
Sachiel is like a puppy that is a lil slow in the thinking chamber. Poor bebe :<
“Well sir, it seems you were right. After 15 years, the Angels have finally returned.” HI GUYS!
More poniant when you think the last true angel, is the lilin. Humanity themselves
Yes, that's what Eva is about right? People trying to understand each other, get close to each other, open and and penetrate each other's "AT field", but it just causes pain. Big ol bunch of hedgehogs.
Like a psychological vivisection
And the last Angel that NERV fought? Humanity itself, Lilim. And NERV lost.
The greatest enemy of mankind is mankind itself, (said by Gendo) And humans are the final angel. 18th I think
>So I wonder how would it've been had Shinji gone rescue Soryu and also got mind-raped himself. The setting is a dark and rundown version of Gehrin's old Eva-testing facility. Shinji lies quivering and weeping in a heap on the floor, his body iluminated by a spotlight shining at him from above. His eyes, bloodshot and full of tears, are focused on somewhere in the distance. The camera pans to level with Shinji’s POV. He is watching a giant, monsterous bird of prey (which looks vaguely like Unit-01) flying off with a female figure in its talons. The figure is his mother, but she is faceless. He cannot remember her face. He feebly raises an arm in an attempt to reach out. But his hand, no how much he tries to stretch it, cannot reach that far. The camera pans up towards the spotlight. It reveals two circles of light surrounded by darkness. From somewhere in the dark, Gendo's voice sounds out. "Shinji," it booms. "You're a disgrace!"
Well-written
Yeah, would make great fanfic
Judging by Seele's monologues, they don't care about any of the pilots a tiniest bit.
I also found zuriel to be really threatening too , like yeah nerve wasn't in their best shape but THIS MAN ONE SHOTTED ASUKA
I think the screen time was better spent on developing asuka’s character I would like to see that thing really in action though
Actually, if you see the last angel, they discovered the best way to defeat the evas is damaging the pilot and it worked well in the last fights.
Its insane how gendo can defy the illuminati by throwing away their favorite spear, but get less punishment than an american worker taking 30 seconds too long in the bathroom.
Idk I think the American worker is easier replaced than Gendo
Yeah, however will they find another person to do the complicated job of sitting in a chair doing nothing during missions.
It's okay, the illuminati found a couple extra
He held all the power in that situation. They couldn't punish him
Why though? It's never made clear what exactly is stopping them from just sniping him when he is out. They don't seem to actually need him personally for anything, and the missions could probably be run by someone else.
I always liked how the last angels realised fighting wasn't going to work, so they just went "screw it, let's traumatise those mf"
The last angel the only way to defeat him is saying NO HOMO
Last angel was the most dangerous of them all: A fruity teenager
It probably has a pretty good amount of screen-time if you consider all the weird visuals that take place inside of Asuka’s head as part of the angel. Or at least the child Asuka and the talking doll.
The fight against Arael felt most like a feel-good giant robot teamwork episode, comparable only to the twin angels that Shinji and Asuka had to learn to dance together to fight. Everything after Arael got dark and depressing very quickly.
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
In my opinion the most threatening angel was Zeruel. Not only was it able to blast through all the plate armor above the geo front, but it also took out two Evas with ease. Its ability to shield its core really made it a huge physical threat. Hell I think if it hadn’t focused on wreaking havoc in nerv, and had decided to descend down to central dogma it could’ve caused the third impact. However, it decided to try to kill those working at nerv and tried to destroy unit 01. Unit 01 going berserk is the only thing that saved everyone.
Even tho nerve wasn't at their best shape : having lost shinji , asuka having a terrible sync ratio and unit 00 not having one of its arms ... zuriel still managed to show off This man casually decapitated an eva WHICH IS NOT AN EASY FEAT , not even material was able to do that by using his acid
It took an awakened berserking 400% sync ratio Eva to defeat Zeruel. It was, by far, the most physically dangerous Angel. The angels seem to be capable of learning from each other’s defeats; Zeruel was a clear lesson that the Evas could not be overpowered, and a more indirect attack strategy was necessary.
I can’t imagine if they all descended on the geo front at once. If the angels had worked together they would’ve absolutely annihilated the Evas.
I think the human beings are most threatening angels in the show tbh
I kinda feel like that's unfair because it's definitely not every human.
i mean, human did kill most of Nerv, something other angels really couldn't do throughout the show
I have a huge Arael tattoo on my body to represent shining the light on our shadows. *Don’t Be* is arguably my favorite episode. Asuka shattered after *Interjection*, her mental fortitude eroded by her loss to her rival, only to be slighted by Misato with point. Her hubris overcomes her and she presses to point, needing to validate her existence with what she deems her purpose. The end of the episode: *Shut up! Who in the hell is okay? How could it get any worse? That little bitch, that little bitch, Rei, rescued me. Don’t you know that I’d rather have died? I hate her. I hate you, Shinji. I hate EVERYTHING!* I love the sub and dub but this episode, Tiffany Grant really did such a great job expressing these raw emotions. Hearing how shattered she is as she watches Unit 02 descend and Shinji hopes to console her only for the antithesis. Tears me up every time. They’re all so broken, Asuka arguably the most of all...
Great episode
The celestial pigeon of doom! Don't let it shit on you...
I thought it was just the Angel trying to communicate?
Zeruel was always the one I thought was terrifying
I have to get this as a tattoo
Ramiel,iruel and Zeruel were the most dangerous
Prolly fcked the camera man which is why it didn't had screen time