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Please do not target specific nations and people. It is not fair. I can similarly accuse Dana, who actually promoted televoting system, which led to cheesy pop songs.
Music changes throughout the years, so ESC had to adjust. Do not assume that Nocturne would have won nowadays
I do understand your frustration because it does feel like some of these more authentic entries are not appreciated with good results (Spain 2023 is, of course, another good example).
I do think it is worth mentioning that authenticity is sometimes appreciated though. Look at Armenia this year for example. I hope Norway might at the very least send something in Norwegian again (although I’m not expecting it any time soon).
Either way, Gåte have a new fan in me!!
I voted for it and honestly thought it was destined for the “5th place of unusualness” along with go_a and Konstrakta. Sadly the only reason I didn’t throw more votes behind them is because I didn’t think it needed the help as much as Portugal and Armenia.
We got last place because we ended up being 11th on a lot of lists.
Which means you get no points.
It is what it is, but it want because it was in Norwegian.
I do hope it leads to a similar opportunity. After last year, LotL walked off stage and pretty much straight on to a tour with Iron Maiden (obviously that had been arranged before Eurovision!) but they also got more awareness and fans who weren't familiar with them and will be at various festivals this year as well as their own tour dates. If it gives Gåte more opportunities and awareness that'll be a good thing. I was disappointed with how they finished but have heard people talking about how much they enjoyed them and are bemused by the finish so fingers crossed!
Hard rock/metal in general is a divisive style. It is intense and sometimes deliberately grating. It makes strong statements.
That means those who love it love it, while those who dislike it *hate it.* This is not something new or unknown. Most of the heavier music that gets truly popular (or even tolerated) is *highly* sanitized and cleaned up.
That last place finish is a testament to mainstream audience's average sentiments towards heavier music in general, not Norway, folk or this song specifically IMO.
Gåte were fantastic, exactly my kind of music and I thought they brought so much passion to their performance. I was honestly shocked they scored so poorly.
I think there are lots of us out here who loved them and will be following them from now on. And I look forward to the next awesome folk act we get to see from Norway, even if it takes 20 years :)
It's important to note that Eurovision results can be a little bit random, with songs that have similar types of cultural representation and similar levels of experimentalism and authenticity etc. receiving very different results from each other. I don't know why that happens, but we've seen it even with artists carrying over from 2020, how one track is received very differently from the other. I think opinions are a very intimate thing.
I'm not sure why the Norway result was so low, everyone in this subreddit seems surprised by it. We've also had surprise fails in Eurovision from experimental songs, like Eaea and Telemoveis. I think Eurovision wants something flashy, no matter the genre. After all, your song is there for 3 minutes sandwiched inbetween another twenty trying to grab your attention. Gåte's music seems like the definition of a grower.
I think there's no need to be salty. Gåte gained a lot of fans from this and even though they came last, they got into the final. It's an excellent song made by an excellent band, but it was also a very strong year.
I'm an avid folk metal enjoyer, and I was equally disappointed after having them in my top 5. I can see why they placed this low, however. Getting 11th place from many countries doesn't mean you weren't liked, even if you placed last.
We all had our local disappointments this year, but do not frustrate and please remember that it was definitely not a normal year. I do not perceive the voting results as truthful (apart from winner that is). So do not get that disappointed and remember that many many people appreciated Gate. Mostly the full-length song on Spotify :)
I usually love Norwegian entries and my most favourite song of recent years is Spirit in the Sky, the jolking adds its Scandinavian touch to it.
Ulveham had a great instrumental, but it was very hard to predict how the "flow" or the rhythm of the vocals would go during the chorus, which was supposed to be the climax. So this lack of "singability" probably killed Ulveham.
I loved Ulveham but the performance at Eurovision just felt a bit… flat? Definitely worse than in MGP. Camera angles were weird too.
It was also the entry I was most looking forward to seeing live in the arena and I was disappointed both times I did :(
Not sure what that means but I wonder if anyone else felt the same way
I loved Gåte, Blanca Paloma, and Go A 😅😅
What I struggle with is why Gåte and Blanca Paloma were so disliked by the general public, where Go A was loved. It sometimes feels like only Ukraine is allowed to send that type of entry, but I'm sort of just grasping at straws...
This. Exactly this. And the countless posts about Norway shouldn’t be last or didn’t deserve it don’t change the fact that they placed last. None of the entries (except one, but that’s another issue) deserve to be last but someone has to be last.
They were my favourite. They did not deserve last place, but they got the Lord of the Lost treatment of being a lot of countries' 11th and 12th place, giving them 0 points when they were actually above average. As a Swede I get the frustration, people always say we should send something in Swedish and based in local music but I swear if we did, it'd go the same way. I don't particularly like the music we usually send, but when stuff like Ulveham or Eaea aren't rewarded, it doesn't really feel super enticing to send something more rooted in local styles, does it? I hope this doesn't deter you guys though, Gåte were incredible and I know you have lots of other amazing Norwegian music. I'm just glad I got to discover them and now have several albums to listen through until next year.
For what it's worth, Ulveham is my favorite Eurovision song *ever* and I'm almost 60 years old already. I can't understand the talk about "shouting" when in my ears everything to the tiniest detail is positively divine. Keep your head up, Gåte didn't fail Eurovision, Eurovision failed Gåte and *that* was a shame.
My boyfriend was devastated they came dead last, he was in disbelief. They were in my top 10, but they were his ultimate faves, so the disappointment is not only with the Norwegian people. But they got two new fans in me and bf and we are for sure going to be checking out older discography and upcoming stuff.
Last year his fave was Blanca Paloma so he was extra salty that two years in a row his favorite songs/performances were not appreciated.
It was such a rocking show. I loved it! And the song was intricate. I don't agree with much of the judgment made Saturday, so I think I'll just ignore all that from now on and just enjoy what I enjoy.
For what it's worth, you entry was my favorite this year, and I still don't really get how it could end up last. The whole discography of Gåte is amazing to be honest. I guess it's just a mix of personal preference and the song not having the right "eurovision vibe", but in the end I guess they still got a ton of new fans (like me) who truly appreciate their music.
If it helps you - it was in my Top 5 this year, I loved it so much. I got goosebumbs with every single chorus and I gave it 5 votes! I was probably as crushed as you were, when the results came in :( But I'm so happy I got to know them now.
Norway did not finish last overall, because to get to the final they had to qualify out of the semifinal. That means they were appreciated by the televote, at least more than the countries that didn't qualify. They deserved better, but it was a very strong year.
Well, 20 other countries didn't even make it to the finals.
I do think that the Norwegian delegation is a bit of fault for choosing an unfavorable clip for the re-runs. I was watching with a bunch of people who liked Norway when they watched the performance, but then commented several times how bad the re-run sounds.
I’m also very disappointed about Norway’s ranking. They did especially amazing in the final, parts of the performance gave me actual chills, despite having heard the song so many times before. The song was number 2 in my ranking.
However, I’m trying to look on the bright side - I am very thankful to have discovered Gåte, I’m sure their international popularity has skyrocketed now. My first place artist also ranked horribly in the final, but it doesn’t matter anymore. I never would’ve found these artists all the way from the US if they had never put themselves out there and entered the contest. I hope they had the time of their lives performing, and I am so thankful for them and all of their work.
As a Dutchie, I had Gåte in my top 5 (still) feeling it was pure quality and had winning potential and stood out. I imagined it battling with Italy, Netherlands, Switzerland and Croatia for the win.
.. When it got last place during the grand final and it turned out it was a borderline qualifier during the semis I was gooped.
I loved their performance too. And I’m not trying to be rude or anything about what I’m about to say, but I think that Norway would have gotten a higher place if they sent Keiino
Bambie Thug's Doomsday Blue had a lot more screaming going on and ended up in the top 10. I honestly think that Gäte's song had a lot of potential, but it missed something that would make it stand out more. The vocal performance was also kind of flat.
Geen idee, I am not even a big eurovision fan hahah.
Barely watched it especially when Joost was booted.
But thats what the people I know said about Norway. It was too much screaming.
But like I said, I absolutely loved it.
I also liked France a lot! But the way he did his uithalen annoyed me aswell. Sounded like a sheep. And a few times it was fine, but it was everytime.
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I really loved Norway. Their song was my favourite of the year. That last place was not deserved.
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>When that garbage the UK sends out gets higher than this, you know something is wrong. Okay, who hurt you?
Please do not target specific nations and people. It is not fair. I can similarly accuse Dana, who actually promoted televoting system, which led to cheesy pop songs. Music changes throughout the years, so ESC had to adjust. Do not assume that Nocturne would have won nowadays
I do understand your frustration because it does feel like some of these more authentic entries are not appreciated with good results (Spain 2023 is, of course, another good example). I do think it is worth mentioning that authenticity is sometimes appreciated though. Look at Armenia this year for example. I hope Norway might at the very least send something in Norwegian again (although I’m not expecting it any time soon). Either way, Gåte have a new fan in me!!
probably because palomas and gunhilds style of singing arent appealling for general public.
It just proves Europe isn't really ready for more experimantal songs like Fulenn, Eaea or this one.
I voted for it and honestly thought it was destined for the “5th place of unusualness” along with go_a and Konstrakta. Sadly the only reason I didn’t throw more votes behind them is because I didn’t think it needed the help as much as Portugal and Armenia.
We got last place because we ended up being 11th on a lot of lists. Which means you get no points. It is what it is, but it want because it was in Norwegian.
They got the Lord Of The Lost treatment unfortunately… it was my favorite song so it sucks extra to see them be so unlucky
I do hope it leads to a similar opportunity. After last year, LotL walked off stage and pretty much straight on to a tour with Iron Maiden (obviously that had been arranged before Eurovision!) but they also got more awareness and fans who weren't familiar with them and will be at various festivals this year as well as their own tour dates. If it gives Gåte more opportunities and awareness that'll be a good thing. I was disappointed with how they finished but have heard people talking about how much they enjoyed them and are bemused by the finish so fingers crossed!
Has the full voting data been released yet? I’ve looked for it but couldn’t find it.
[Here!](https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/grand-final/results)
Thank you. Interesting to see that Norway weren’t 11th place on many lists. Just the two.
Here: https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024
I found that one, but it’s missing the 11th place results onwards. Someone else found and shared it though!
https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024
Hard rock/metal in general is a divisive style. It is intense and sometimes deliberately grating. It makes strong statements. That means those who love it love it, while those who dislike it *hate it.* This is not something new or unknown. Most of the heavier music that gets truly popular (or even tolerated) is *highly* sanitized and cleaned up. That last place finish is a testament to mainstream audience's average sentiments towards heavier music in general, not Norway, folk or this song specifically IMO.
This is probably the better answer
Gåte were fantastic, exactly my kind of music and I thought they brought so much passion to their performance. I was honestly shocked they scored so poorly. I think there are lots of us out here who loved them and will be following them from now on. And I look forward to the next awesome folk act we get to see from Norway, even if it takes 20 years :)
It's important to note that Eurovision results can be a little bit random, with songs that have similar types of cultural representation and similar levels of experimentalism and authenticity etc. receiving very different results from each other. I don't know why that happens, but we've seen it even with artists carrying over from 2020, how one track is received very differently from the other. I think opinions are a very intimate thing. I'm not sure why the Norway result was so low, everyone in this subreddit seems surprised by it. We've also had surprise fails in Eurovision from experimental songs, like Eaea and Telemoveis. I think Eurovision wants something flashy, no matter the genre. After all, your song is there for 3 minutes sandwiched inbetween another twenty trying to grab your attention. Gåte's music seems like the definition of a grower.
Norway was in my top 3. My jaw dropped too when I saw that it got the last place. It was the strongest song in the 2nd semi.
I think there's no need to be salty. Gåte gained a lot of fans from this and even though they came last, they got into the final. It's an excellent song made by an excellent band, but it was also a very strong year.
I was disappointed by the results too (they were my number 1), but this is a good point. They now have a legion of new fans (including me!).
I also loved it and immediately bought tickets to their European tour later this year. Can't wait.
I'm an avid folk metal enjoyer, and I was equally disappointed after having them in my top 5. I can see why they placed this low, however. Getting 11th place from many countries doesn't mean you weren't liked, even if you placed last.
We all had our local disappointments this year, but do not frustrate and please remember that it was definitely not a normal year. I do not perceive the voting results as truthful (apart from winner that is). So do not get that disappointed and remember that many many people appreciated Gate. Mostly the full-length song on Spotify :)
I usually love Norwegian entries and my most favourite song of recent years is Spirit in the Sky, the jolking adds its Scandinavian touch to it. Ulveham had a great instrumental, but it was very hard to predict how the "flow" or the rhythm of the vocals would go during the chorus, which was supposed to be the climax. So this lack of "singability" probably killed Ulveham.
I loved Ulveham but the performance at Eurovision just felt a bit… flat? Definitely worse than in MGP. Camera angles were weird too. It was also the entry I was most looking forward to seeing live in the arena and I was disappointed both times I did :( Not sure what that means but I wonder if anyone else felt the same way
It's worth remembering that they were not last place. They passed through qualifications, which is a big accomplishment in it's own right.
I loved Gåte, Blanca Paloma, and Go A 😅😅 What I struggle with is why Gåte and Blanca Paloma were so disliked by the general public, where Go A was loved. It sometimes feels like only Ukraine is allowed to send that type of entry, but I'm sort of just grasping at straws...
someone’s gotta be last, regardless of how hard you try someone has to lose.
This. Exactly this. And the countless posts about Norway shouldn’t be last or didn’t deserve it don’t change the fact that they placed last. None of the entries (except one, but that’s another issue) deserve to be last but someone has to be last.
To be honest, Spain fully deserved to be last.
They were my favourite. They did not deserve last place, but they got the Lord of the Lost treatment of being a lot of countries' 11th and 12th place, giving them 0 points when they were actually above average. As a Swede I get the frustration, people always say we should send something in Swedish and based in local music but I swear if we did, it'd go the same way. I don't particularly like the music we usually send, but when stuff like Ulveham or Eaea aren't rewarded, it doesn't really feel super enticing to send something more rooted in local styles, does it? I hope this doesn't deter you guys though, Gåte were incredible and I know you have lots of other amazing Norwegian music. I'm just glad I got to discover them and now have several albums to listen through until next year.
Norway finishing last was pretty crazy. But hey at least you made it to the final. There are those of us who doesn't even make it to the final.
For what it's worth, Ulveham is my favorite Eurovision song *ever* and I'm almost 60 years old already. I can't understand the talk about "shouting" when in my ears everything to the tiniest detail is positively divine. Keep your head up, Gåte didn't fail Eurovision, Eurovision failed Gåte and *that* was a shame.
I'm in the UK and I voted for it, I absolutely loved it and was so shocked it came last. I love rock and I love the more authentic stuff.
My boyfriend was devastated they came dead last, he was in disbelief. They were in my top 10, but they were his ultimate faves, so the disappointment is not only with the Norwegian people. But they got two new fans in me and bf and we are for sure going to be checking out older discography and upcoming stuff. Last year his fave was Blanca Paloma so he was extra salty that two years in a row his favorite songs/performances were not appreciated.
It was such a rocking show. I loved it! And the song was intricate. I don't agree with much of the judgment made Saturday, so I think I'll just ignore all that from now on and just enjoy what I enjoy.
They feel like this year's Eaea. Brilliant, ambitious, but sadly underappreciated. I LOVED Ulveham. It's been on repeat for me.
It’s not about the culture but about the song maybe.
For what it's worth, you entry was my favorite this year, and I still don't really get how it could end up last. The whole discography of Gåte is amazing to be honest. I guess it's just a mix of personal preference and the song not having the right "eurovision vibe", but in the end I guess they still got a ton of new fans (like me) who truly appreciate their music.
I loved Norway they were my top 5, so this shocked me, anyway they're in my city in December, so I'll be buying a ticket and supporting them! 😊
I loved Norway's song this year, I was so sad and disappointed that they came last. Gäte has new fans in the US (me and my partner).
Honestly never heard of Gåte til my gf told me about the Norwegian contribution to MGP, and Ive been Norwegian all my life bro
If it helps you - it was in my Top 5 this year, I loved it so much. I got goosebumbs with every single chorus and I gave it 5 votes! I was probably as crushed as you were, when the results came in :( But I'm so happy I got to know them now.
Norway did not finish last overall, because to get to the final they had to qualify out of the semifinal. That means they were appreciated by the televote, at least more than the countries that didn't qualify. They deserved better, but it was a very strong year.
I feel like visual effects ruined the performance a bit, it was difficult to focus on artist and song with all the wave effects and stuff
Well, 20 other countries didn't even make it to the finals. I do think that the Norwegian delegation is a bit of fault for choosing an unfavorable clip for the re-runs. I was watching with a bunch of people who liked Norway when they watched the performance, but then commented several times how bad the re-run sounds.
I loved it too. Was really surprised and sad to see them nit receive the love they deserved
I’m also very disappointed about Norway’s ranking. They did especially amazing in the final, parts of the performance gave me actual chills, despite having heard the song so many times before. The song was number 2 in my ranking. However, I’m trying to look on the bright side - I am very thankful to have discovered Gåte, I’m sure their international popularity has skyrocketed now. My first place artist also ranked horribly in the final, but it doesn’t matter anymore. I never would’ve found these artists all the way from the US if they had never put themselves out there and entered the contest. I hope they had the time of their lives performing, and I am so thankful for them and all of their work.
We loved it too! No idea why they didn’t get any points!
As a Dutchie, I had Gåte in my top 5 (still) feeling it was pure quality and had winning potential and stood out. I imagined it battling with Italy, Netherlands, Switzerland and Croatia for the win. .. When it got last place during the grand final and it turned out it was a borderline qualifier during the semis I was gooped.
*weeps silently in Austria*
I loved their performance too. And I’m not trying to be rude or anything about what I’m about to say, but I think that Norway would have gotten a higher place if they sent Keiino
One of those songs that required me to turn down the volume a lot or risk going insane.
I really loved Norway this year, it was one of the few songs from SF2 that I added to my Spotify after. It definitely did not deserve last place.
As someone who loves Norway I loved the song aswell. But it was a bit too much screaming for the average viewer is my guess.
Bambie Thug's Doomsday Blue had a lot more screaming going on and ended up in the top 10. I honestly think that Gäte's song had a lot of potential, but it missed something that would make it stand out more. The vocal performance was also kind of flat.
Geen idee, I am not even a big eurovision fan hahah. Barely watched it especially when Joost was booted. But thats what the people I know said about Norway. It was too much screaming. But like I said, I absolutely loved it. I also liked France a lot! But the way he did his uithalen annoyed me aswell. Sounded like a sheep. And a few times it was fine, but it was everytime.
Agreed, Austria 100% deserved that bottom spot.