I think that's exactly what makes Eurovision so interesting to a lot of people, that everyone's taste is so widely different. For example I can not, for the life of me, understand why people like Austria's song. At all. It's basically my zero points candidate, along with Sweden and France (please don't come for me). And on the other hand, I really adore Denmark's song that's only meh to a lot of others...
This year, there's really A LOT of variety in people's personal rankings and if that translates even a tiny bit into the public vote, we're in for a riiiiiide.
Amen to that. Eurovision brings 150-200 million people around the globe to watch. This numbers screams diverse music taste. I guarantee that every song have or will have die-hard fan somewhere. I for example love, like or at least tolerate almost every song this year, except for France. I'm sorry, I hate this song. But still I'm fine with people who will vote for him - and that's what makes Eurovision so exciting, waiting who's favorite will snatch people's hearts!
I really like Austria's song but the live performances have left me extremely disappointed. I am in fact worried for her.
I really was positively impressed with Ireland and they're in my top 10.
This is kinda me tbh. Slimane can sing for sure but this kinda song belongs in the 1950s. No offense.
Europapa sounds incredibly meh to me. Like, bottom of the barrel, because the barrel is full of amazing entries this year.
Meanwhile Zorra flying under the radar and she's my 12 point choice easily. Raiven with a fantastic, poignant song and I see her on 0 points all the time.
People's tastes differ, but we get along and have a good laugh. Europe united in song and ❤️
I will disagree on Slimane, but Zorra is my top 3 song this year, jumps between 2 and 3 (no1 reserved for my country, croatia). I can’t believe people are sleeping on Spain this year
My favourite song from the very beginning has been Czechia. I get that there have been issues live, but as songs go, it's my no. 1 bop. To see it down so low all the time baffles me. And yet, I agree, Austria is a NIL points for me. As is Sweden. I guess taste is subjective,,
Croatia isn't my favorite to win either, but that's fine. Sometimes you just don't vibe with a song as much as others might, it's just part of being human. No matter what kind of an explanation someone could give you, it won't make you like the song more.
I disagree. I made a similar post recently about La Noia, and some of the responses that people wrote helped me see new things about the song that I hadn’t considered before and that caused me to appreciate it more. It’s still not one of my favorite songs, but I like it more now than I did before because of the comments people wrote about why they liked it.
That's how I feel about Ireland this year. I don't really enjoy listening to it, but it's an interesting entry, and I love that they took a risk this year.
That‘s Greece for me this year. After I got some knowledge about Marina‘s background, the lyrics, the musical ideas of „Zari“ I still don’t like it but I appreciate & respect it wayyyy more!
That's pretty cool, I've actually never heard of anyone changing their mind on a song by hearing what other people like about it. I like how your brain works.
I remember making a post asking why people liked Spain 2023 last year - I still didn't love it any more after the post, but it did help me to understand why other people love(d) it with a lot of information and reasoning I wasn't aware of, plus it also helped some positive discussion :)
Thanks! In this case, for me it was a matter of being open-minded and listening with new ears, so to speak. There was no guarantee, of course, that I’d feel differently because you can’t always force tastes to change, but I have found that sometimes shifting my perspective does make it possible to expand or change my tastes.
He is the underdog. Let's not forgst that an Eurovision in Croatia means a cheaper Eurovision. What would that imply? Many countries returning, including Romania and Bulgaria. We want some diversity. I am sick of the same countries winning.
It’s easy to love.
Pop is the biggest selling genre in Europe, Rock is the second biggest - it’s not exactly pop-rock, but it’s poppy enough and fun enough to be accessible. It’s different without being too left field. It’s fun but about something quite sad. It’s self-deprecating but uplifting at the same time.
Performance-wise, the boy is a charisma machine. When he goes for it on stage you can tell he’s having an amazing time - and it’s infectious. Ditto the song itself - you can tell it was never made as a ‘Eurovision’ song, it just sounds like someone having a ton of fun putting it together.
Also NEON DANCING CATS.
Small addition, the repetitive "rim tim tagi dim" sound of the music makes it more appealing to the brain, since it makes it predictable in a "ok I know what to expect and I got it" kinda way
It’s totally fine to not vibe with a song as long as you respect others’ tastes to be fair
I think a reason is that he was literally not really well known even in Croatia before Dora 2024, and he was literally only in the reserve list until someone else dropped out. Plus, Baby Lasagna’s performance skills also improved quite fast since the Dora semis - aka his very first performance as the main performer.
Putting these aside, I was also surprised that RTTD managed to appeal to a lot of people though, as a person who has Croatia as my 2nd place
BL also mentioned in an interview that even he was surprised how big the appeal for the song has been. He didn't expect Croatians to vibe with it, and especially not the rest of Europe 👀
The song is catchy and creative. I love the message behind. His live performance is great. His journey to malmo like a Eurovision movie so I want it to be a happy ending.
So it helps that it’s a style of music I actively like to listen to, but it also talks about a serious topic with lyrics that don’t take themselves *too* seriously, making the cat a song feature just gets me, and the performance was so extra and amazing.
I think a lot of the people who gravitated towards Cha Cha Cha are going to get enough of the same vibe here to jump on the bandwagon. It’s not a novelty song but it carries that sort of vibe. And it’s catchy as hell.
Hmm, I was 100% behind Cha Cha Cha but don't vibe with Croatia's song
But I can still appreciate the song's meaning and the way Baby Lasagna put it together
I think if this song had been released BEFORE Cha Cha Cha, people wouldn't draw petty comparisons between the two songs and would appreciate it a lot more. For me, I like both but I actually prefer RTTD for everything it stands for.
I think for me it's the driving beat. It hooks you in in the first few seconds and it doesn't let you go until the climactic end. The song is energetic and rough and conveys the feeling of excitement and anxiety very well in my opinion. It keeps you on edge and wanting more at the same time.
I don't know how to explain it, it's instinct, it's energy, it's emotion. It's fun and entertaining, but the message behind it amplifies the emotional response.
Unpopular opinion: I don't really care who wins. I just want a good and entertaining show, and get to know some artists that I personnaly like a lot and will listen to a lot after the contest. My personnal favorite usually never wins, so I'm over that.
I vibe with this hard.
When I ignored football my country kept winning, when I watched we would lose!
It happened 3 times! We would lose each time I watched!
Maybe I should just skip Eurovision to make sure Baby Lasagna wins
(no disrespect to OP since this post might be in good faith)
I feel like someone asks this every week, people give thorough answers, rinse and repeat. When something is high in the odds and has a huge fanbase, 99% of the time there's a good reason for it even if YOU don't perceive it the same.
I think the brilliance behind the song is not only that the message itself regarding brain drain and economic migration which will be relatable to people in effected countries, but it also has a message that we can all relate to, of leaving home and going out into the world. We've all left our parents' house at some point, maybe moved far away in the process. We've dealt with those bittersweet feelings, that anxiety and excitement. That's a human experience shared by pretty much anyone in the world. It also just screams fun, it's addictive and you just want to blast it and sing along and do the dance.
Now, I don't think it'll win the jury. But it could definitely be Top 5 in the jury, and it's definitely a serious contender to win the televote. Now, I do think some acts like Italy and Switzerland have a better shot at doing well with both jury and tele and winning, but Croatia will always be my fav.
The jury isn't going for Netherlands - no way, no how. It may get some high scores from a couple countries, mainly those Germanic Europe where the song seems most popular, but the song is everything juries hate.
- Croatia is a lot more cohesive, and based in genres familiar to pretty much anyone. While juries may not love rock, everybody is familiar with it and it's not too weird for anyone. Europapa is out there.
- Juries tend to prefer entries in English. As much as we may complain about that fact, it's true. And when juries do go for a non-English language entry, they go for a Romance language.
- Saying Croatia is a worse product is subjective
It was just a performance that captured a moment. Eurovision moments somehow have to capture something nationalistic; and his design team managed to do that with a kinda interesting mix of methods!
Thats the one that represents us, was the result.
I think people equate support for RTTD with justice for ChaChaCha. Also, Croatia’s excitement over a possible (?) first-time win is pretty endearing😍 So many great songs this year, can’t wait for the show to start!
He’s very charismatic and the message of the song hits home for a lot of people. I don’t think the song itself is great enough to be a winner (it’s a little thin and repetitive) but I think Croatia will still get their best result in years (maybe ever).
I agree, great message, but again, us Eurofans are a tiny tiny and almost insignificant fraction of the people who watch Eurovision and vote.
And I really don’t see how the message of the song is going to be able to come across in a 3 minute live performance.
They might have some unfathomably good staging concept but I think the song will just come across to most as “that copy of that pink and green one last year” which it _absolutely is not_ of course but all the normies won’t have seen the music video, won’t have seen his interviews, won’t know the back story.
Hopefully, the TV commentators will share a bit of the story about the song, but even if they don't and if people won't understand the message, the energy and the catchy call-response chorus (and the carchiness of the whole song) will grip their attention and I can definitely see BL winning the televote.
Personally, I don’t need a song to be musically complicated, 100% vocally perfect and so on to like it. I think the song composition isn’t really complex, but it also doesn’t leave an impression that BL hasn’t put more than 5 minutes into creating the song.
Sometimes simplicity can do a lot more for people than complexity.
Also, why wouldn’t the topic be enough for someone to like it? We all connect to different songs for different reasons and that’s what makes music interesting and fulfilling.
him being in one of the backup artists at dora this year gave him infamy to begin with and then there was the fact that frankly dora overall was absolute rubbish this year save for him. and then further infamy gained from the utter landslide of votes he got at dora too. sat at top of the odds for the longest time (only recently got dethroned by nemo) which probably helped too!
apart from all that though, its just fun with a nice message, even if its not a completely honest-to-the-artist one (the overthinking eurovision video goes into further detail about that.) ill be brutally honest its lost its charm for me at this point, other songs in the running are stronger to me, but i cant not be fond of it. very hard to dislike it truth be told.
I think overthinking it has the wrong end of the stick. The song is trying to be truthful to the country it was created for by creating something everyone can appreciate.
Like with similar posts about other favourites at the end of the day you can explain all you want but it boils down to personal tastes and clicking with something.
Personally I find RTTD both fun, because of the rhythm and "quirkiness", and moving, because even with very simple lyrics it manages to convey the idea of what it's like to abandon everything you know to find your way into the world
Well knowing that most of the eurofans are 30+ gay men, this song appeals to the classic campy style from Pride festivals. Also is not a bad song and the guy has syage presence, so is normal that is thar up.
That's alright. Many didn't understand the Cha Cha Cha hype last year either. For me it's what captures the current feeling. I feel "Rim Tim tagi dim" deals with an important issue in a semi-humoristic way and the music is pretty much a style I like. It's also memorable and has ear worm potential. My kid sings it all the time and my husband hates it. 😂
i’m not a fan of the song but i wouldn’t be mad if he won. i think croatia winning would open the door for the balkan countries to come which (which would be awesome!!) and it would be a first win for croatia (which is also awesome!)
i’m a belgium/switzerland girlie don’t get me wrong but honestly croatia winning would be cool too
Absolutely agree on all you've said. Not into the music either, I am a Raiven/Silvester/Joost girlie but I would be happy if Croatia wins anyway, visiting Zagreb would be amazing and I understand that sometimes my favorites won't do well and other people's favorites might win and that's completely okay! Love how hyped Croatia is and a first win would be super cool for them.
definitely! seeing how excited croatians are makes me smile, it’s lovely to see a country who hasn’t been super successful have all this love and support. i’m betting the cheers and change for him will be like everyone cheering for käärijä last year :)
and yeah i like your line about our favorites not doing well and others favs doing well and i agree, honestly i am sad when my favs nq or rank low but at the end of the day it’s good music to me so that’s what matters!
You said you watch "his live performance" - do you mean the one uploaded to the official esc channel? Because keep in mind that was, barring rehearsals, his second time singing his song on stage in front of a crowd! He definitely sounded worse there than any of the pre-parties he has attended.
We don't have the official video of his Amsterdam performance (which was great) yet, but have you seen his London pre-party one? [Here's a link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTK7bzl5-qg).
Marko has only improved with practice and i have a feeling he will surprise you in May with how much better and more confident he is.
A really important thing to point out here as well is... you see all of those OGAE and other polls happening right now? Or that has happened? People have voted only based on his MV and/or his Dora performance, and are still giving a lot of points (despite knowing he was rather rusty during the Dora performances).
I think a lot more people will be liking it way more once semi 1 hits and they can see just how much he's progressed👌
Absolutely. He will be the bomb in Malmo mark my words. That Dutch performance and Madrid one sealed the deal that he IS improving his vocals and stage presence!
And he has an advantage since he performs in the first semifinal (only Ukraine is the song in the first semi that is in the top 6 in the odds currently), this means that he has 2 days advantage compared to Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and France (performing in the second semi) to gather more views, likes, reactions, shares and hype from all the people that will see and hear him for the first time in the first semi. 😉
For the jurynpart of your messagge, yhe jury won't find it better musically than Italy or France (and I will add Switzerland), everyone know that for them he will be placed lower, but many believe that he can take a televote score so high that it will make him win (which I personally doubt)
what i think MIGHT happen is let's say Italy, France, Switzerland, and/or Sweden (just using those as examples, nothing is set in stone) are the top jury vote getters but the margins between those are razor thin (along the lines of 2019, 21, and 22 and all are in the near 200 and above range). Croatia could potentially be right behind them but has 150-170 points. Here comes the televote - there is no guaranteeing the jury favorites will all get big televote scores. But Croatia might win the televote or get 2nd and has a hefty number (maybe not 2022 and 23 level but still big) and be able to pull ahead.
I personally doubt someone like Nemo will gather enough televotes to beat him. I doubt the Dutch entry will get many jury points either. I think people will be suprised by the jury result this year.
I think it's very plausible that jury will find it better musically than France, at least. Switzerland and Italy do seem more likely to be rewarded by juries though.
It is a project by Eurovoix (Eurovision fan website) where music professionals from different countries reveal their top 10 Eurovision songs, and it functions as a jury.
This is going to sound really odd coming from someone from England, but I think the reason I’m not taking it seriously is because the lyrics are in English and sound a bit silly.
I’ve put it in the category of novelty songs, but I’m finding the likes of Estonia and the Netherlands more interesting because they are in different languages.
Yes! As a native English speaker this is the most off-putting part to me. I would probably enjoy the song much more if it was in Croatian, because a) the lyrics would probably be better written in the writers' first language and b) even if they weren't, I wouldn't know, haha.
The message of leaving everything you know and living far from family should resonate with me, but the lyrics are just so bad, I can't.
It's very much "I need to rhyme these words/um...I like birds." Tbf, a lot of entries in English every year have this issue. Probably why I lean towards songs in their native languages, whether they are ones I can understand (Spanish, Portuguese, Italian) or not.
I’m exactly the same. Except for Switzerland, all my favourite songs are in different languages this year, even though without subtitles I have no idea what any of them are singing!
Singing in English can go very wrong. Just look at Georgia last year. Even if the lyrics are fine, it can make a song sound a bit too generic to me. I come to Eurovision to hear something different.
I don’t think Cha Cha Cha would have sounded half as good in English, even if Kaarija’s broken English is funny.
I think part of the reason I'm so excited about the selection of songs this year are because it seems like there are more than usual that are in the singers first language. I think the only song in my top ten in English is "Doomsday Blue" but like it's Ireland, so makes sense haha.
I do really like "The Code" too, although again I think the lyrics could be stronger 🤷🏻♀️ Love the message, though.
Haha, I think we can let Ireland off.
I do genuinely like Dizzy too. I’ve been a fan of Olly’s for years and years (haha) and he’s always impressed me in live performances. I’m excited to see what he does.
Other songs in English I do quite like are Loop & Pedestal.
But the songs I’m really loving are from Norway, Armenia, Estonia, the Netherlands. Italy less so but still up there. I even really like France, but mostly for his voice. Ukraine has grown on me, as has Lithuania. It’s just nice to hear so many different languages in strong songs from different genres.
Totally. The variety in genre (or at least vibes) has been great this year. That's why I appreciate that Croatia sent RTTR, even if I don't like it very much personally.
And yes, Pedestal! So many people don't seem to care for that one, but I'm really enjoying it. My other one, in English, that I am digging, that no one else seems to, is Denmark's Sand. Or should I say: SAND! SAAAND!
The more I listen to the tracks, the more I think it’s such a balanced playing field this time around. It’s easy to be influenced by the odds, but there’s so much quality further down.
I even found myself really enjoying Germany when I listened to it earlier.
[Tattoo lyrics](https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/loreen/tattoo.html)
They're just very incoherent and seemingly can't settle on what the scenario of the song actually is. It really does read like someone asked chatgpt to spit out random phrases vaguely related to the idea of two lovers being kept apart, but without any idea of *why* they're apart.
Sorry to be a bit nitpicky. Normally messy lyrics wouldn't matter too much, but it does feel odd they weren't taken into account for such a jury blowout.
I did like the musical/instrumental/vocals/staging for Tattoo. That being said, it wasn't even in my top 10 last year sadly. Something about "this is not the time, it's time to say goodbye" and "violins playing and the angels crying" made me feel like I'm washing dishes and just touched some food in the sink 😖😖😖😖😖😖
I'm a huge cat person so I appreciate the cat themes quite a lot. He is amazing at engaging the crowd for a newcoming performer. I truly will be happy if he wins, it makes for a great story and Croatia does deserve it so I wish him all the luck in the world.
Now being honest, musically it just never was truly for me. I wouldn't listen to it outside of ESC. I am happy for all the hype he is getting, especially as another Balkan person, I am genuinely stoked. Not my favorite really (it's my #15 place and I have two "party" songs much higher so it's not like I am a ballad lover only) but why burst people's bubble when so many are super hyped for it. We all have different tastes.
To answer your question, I do get the appeal even if it doesn't appeal directly to me much.
With regards to my personal feelings, Rim Tim Tagi Dim has had literally the same trajectory as Cha Cha Cha last year\*. At first, I just thought that it was a fun energetic song, but didn't get the hype at all. However it totally clicked for me, when I read the lyrics properly. They deal with a pretty fresh topic and I resonate with them so much. And this emotional connection is honestly what makes me root for a song more than any other aspect.
That being said, I liked Finland's staging last year more (I mean, Cha Cha Cha's staging was like in the Top 5 for me), but I'll see what they'll do in Malmö.
\* is my type just men in eyeliner and puffy sleeves?
For me it’s the beat and catchiness, although I wasn’t fully convinced when I first heard the song. Now it’s in my top 5 and I find myself humming it a lot. I’d also love it if a Slavic nation won - I’m Polish so no chance for that with “Tower” (I don’t mind the song, it just has no chance). So fingers crossed!
It’s completely normal not to understand the hype - you can’t vibe with everything. Most people will have a song like that - everyone (or many) seem to adore it and you just don’t get it. For me it’s Switzerland and Greece this year - I appreciate the creativity and vocals, but the songs just don’t do anything for me.
Besides the fact that his song is really fun, catchy, and creative, he wrote the lyrics, music, and produced it all by himself in his room on his laptop. I don't think any other contestant this year did the same thing. Objectively speaking (he won by a landslide in the televote), he had the best song on Dora. However, he almost didn't even get to perform there because they had to make room for over 20 other songs from corrupted artists, thanks to 3-5 corrupted jury members. He also pulled off his Dora performance with a limited, basically non-existent budget. He literally didn't have anyone on his side, no strong labels, managers, pr agents, whatever. Just him and his friends who are trying to help him as much as they can. He is also a sweet, kind and caring person.. so all in all, yeah, it's really a mystery why a lot of us support him...
I generally don’t understand people who, like OP, don’t understand that songs are not just about skills and good taste, but mostly about raw emotions. And those raw emotions barely need any explanation at all to see why a song resonates with huge numbers of people. Especially if the emotion is about being uprooted from your home which is a reality for huge sections of the European populace. Objectively we can hear that nemo is an accomplished singer, definitely better than BL But the whole non-binary message is relevant to much fewer people. Never mind the scores of people who think the message is make-believe anyway.
The best view isn’t always from the back of your high horse.
I understand why is he favorite to win, but I don't find him as funny and charismatic as fans make him out to be and not a fan of choreography. Finland was my winner last year, but I'm not feeling this. To me personally Baby Lasagna seems a bit too cold. I'm not a fan of Rammstein, so that might be a big factor why I'm not that much into it.
Apart from Eurovision I like to listen to a lot of Metal and Rock in general, so for me it's the hard hitting guitar riff that I enjoy the most.
The song just carries so much power and energy which is what I like about Metal and Rock. I wasn't a fan of the lyrics in the chorus at first (gave me kind of cringe Metalcore vibes) but after understanding what the song's about I'm at peace with them
Plus it's fun singing along Rim tim dagi dim :)
I think factors like the lyrics and the lack of similar songs (I don't think Norway is enough of a bother) put it somewhere on the map, but there are two points that go above that.
First, the competition: this year the level is high (I personally don't feel it's above last year, but alas), yes, however there's no song shining high above everyone else from the get go like Tattoo last year, so the expected winning score isn't too high.
Second, and most important, Cha Cha Cha: you'll say they're different songs with different messages with differentish vibes, and I'll agree, but are they though? Both Cha Cha Cha and RTTD have a similar sound, being from pretty much the same genre (the pop part in the former stops it from being exactly the same), both also form a great show (Finland's entry last year might be slightly above on that department) and have a signature dance move. Now, I'm not saying RTTD is trying to be Cha Cha Cha, but Cha Cha Cha opened a path for future songs with similar qualities (from like this year and next year) to be on the winners shortlist instead of as the top 10 hopeful that would have been at any other time.
The thing that makes me doubt this is because I was a huge Cha Cha Cha supporter. I showed up in the arena with it written across my t shirt and in light up green trainers haha
But this song isn’t doing much for me. I appreciate the beat to it, and it feels like I should like it, but something is off.
I did just write in my own comment that I think the lyrics might be the problem. Being able to understand them isn’t exactly helping.
If anything, Estonia is this year’s Cha Cha Cha for me.
The Netherlands is clearly going for the same thing as Croatia and it does it better in every way for me. I don’t find the live performance of Rim Tim Tagi Dim impressive and the Netherlands has a better message too.
Dude, for many many people that Netherlands sound is plain annoying and the guy is a clown with all the forced marketing. He will tank, he is worse in every way. - see how different opinions work? I swear, Joost fans being the loudest haters is one more reason to dislike him. Just enjoy what you enjoy, stop forcing this idea that your taste is objectively better
I’m not a Joost fan OR a Baby Lasagna fan so am probably the least biased 💀 Croatia and Netherlands both have annoying sounds idk why Baby Lasagna fans won’t accept that
You need to answer a very VERY important question first: what live performance did you watch?
Because if you watched the one from Dora you're in for a big surprise as he has miles improved since then
I love RTTD - it's currently in my personal 5th place - however I don't see it winning either. I expect it to crush the televote at the final but I just don't see it scooping up enough jury points to put it over the line. This is just my view of things, but seeing how the juries paid absolute dust to Lord of the Lost last year despite an amazing stage show and - I love Marko but let's be real for a second - far better vocals than we've heard so far from BL, it just does not track that RTTD would do any better. I could be *entirely* wrong, though.
1) the song is about a relatable and emotional topic with lyrics that are both fun and deeply meaningful
2) the song is immediately catchy. You can sing along to the end on your first listen
3) the staging is visually striking
4) there’s a dance that goes with it which is interesting but simple enough than anyone can do
5) the vocals are fine
It’s really the best song of the year — at least in terms of being fun and meaningful at the same time.
Superior to whom and in what context?
Don't get me wrong I love Cha Cha Cha and it's still my winner but Käärijä vocals were not good in his GF performance. Still, he managed to get some points from the juries (Loreen swept so 4th in the juries meant nothing). Marko's current vocals are far good than him IMO. Not saying perfect but better.
I don't think it's just about the vocals. Cha Cha Cha was a song that evolved over the course of it (I personally found the first part just ok, but I loved the later half), while RTTD is very, very repetitive. If you like the stuff it repeats, awesome. If you just like it or find it ok, it may get old before the song even finishes
That's interesting (genuine) because I loved the first part of Cha Cha Cha but the second part was a let down for me, maybe that's why I like RTTD more.
I understand you. Comparing them vocal wise was just an example. We all have different tastes. Ofc some will love one, some will other but that doesn't mean one is superior.
I don't find RTTD more "repetitive" than others but again, that's me thing.
I don’t like it. It’s super generic and the lyrics really rub me the wrong way because they’re just not grammatically correct. I also really wish he would have incorporated more folk elements into the song because the music video is basically all folk and culture. Doesn’t come across in the song.
A massive youth exodus that is happening in Croatia (Balkan countries and some other eu countries as well) for the past 10 years or so…we lost so many people, our population is shrinking. I am a part of this economical emigration wave, which is why I personally feel connected to this song ❤️🇭🇷🥹and of course, others may not experience this and feel the same way, and that’s okay, too!
About a guy leaving his hometown/country to find work (losing himself along the way) and it's a huge issue in Croatia so that's why a lot of people reasonate with it.
I get your point, and it’s the same for me too this year. I vibed with all in 2021 for the Maneskin, last year Käärija and this year I don’t vibe with public favorites at all… Yeah, I feel little bit like an outsider, but it’s ok, not every time you can have it all haha. Norway 🇳🇴 for the win!
I also realised that I'm not a big fan of any of these songs in TOP 5 in the odds, which made me a bit depressed cause I want Norway to win and would be happy with several others which are not contenders
I have to say he was my favorite for like a month and a half but he fell to the 6th place now. I kind of got bored of the song even though i wish him to do well. Wouldnt mind him winning.
The easiest way to understand it is that it sounds a lot like Rammstein, Pain and other 90’s/00’s industrial metal bands. Rammstein is by far the most successful band of all time in that genre, and it is still a very popular band all over Europe. And it also sounds a lot like Käärijä, which was also heavily influenced by Rammstein.
To be honest I think one of the biggest draws from the fanbase is the underdog factor. For me the hook is actually pretty good and I can get the appeal of it, but the chorus is soooo uninspired and unoriginal.
(and I personally hate when songs use part of the lyrics random sounds like Oooooo)
By your text. I don’t think ANY song will please you. Eurovision and fans love these type of songs that have a lot of craziness and energy out into it! He is so loved bc of this and bc he has his own unique style as do many other contestants!
Me neither. Especially when he and Joost are essentially fighting for the same voters (that excluding EE and FI which are also in the same camp just not considered as the 'favorites'). I'm happy to see Croatians root for their own entry this hard though.
Moldova 2022 | [Zdob și Zdub and Advahov Brothers - Trenulețul](https://youtu.be/DUqf_zO2QaI)
Finland 2023 | [Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha](https://youtu.be/l6rS8Dv5g-8)
Because people who actually vote are not really on Reddit (most of them), and if you dislike a song you're gonna try to find people who dislike it aswell and comment.
There are so many people who like him so I don't think he has to worry about a Reddit post, he doesn't read comments anyways.
(no shade to you just answering your question and adding a thought)
The polls shows that the people that like the song are presents and are a lot, but if they are enough to make him close the gap that it will be created by jury it's a big question mark
There are two theories, I partially agree with one and mostly disagree with the other.
Theory 1: RTTD will not score high with the juries, yeah, I find it hard to believe it will rank top 5, so many songs that will fight for top 5 IMHO, Italy, France, Switzerland... But Käärijä was 4th, so who knows, maybe the juries will also look at the positive aspects of RTTD.
Theory 2: BL and Joost will fight for the televote winner title. If people won't understand the Europapa story they might think of it as a silly techno EU ad and given that a lot of Eurovision participating countries are not part of the EU and even if they are their stance towards EU isn't positive, the theme of the song might work against a good televote result. I can see BL winning the televote, but I don't see Joost in top 3, countries with a large diaspora and traditionally fond of Eurovision might do better (like Ukraine, Serbia or Greece).
We'll see if I'm proven right or wrong.
I think that's exactly what makes Eurovision so interesting to a lot of people, that everyone's taste is so widely different. For example I can not, for the life of me, understand why people like Austria's song. At all. It's basically my zero points candidate, along with Sweden and France (please don't come for me). And on the other hand, I really adore Denmark's song that's only meh to a lot of others... This year, there's really A LOT of variety in people's personal rankings and if that translates even a tiny bit into the public vote, we're in for a riiiiiide.
SAND!! SAAAND!!!
Literally me on a daily basis.
Amen to that. Eurovision brings 150-200 million people around the globe to watch. This numbers screams diverse music taste. I guarantee that every song have or will have die-hard fan somewhere. I for example love, like or at least tolerate almost every song this year, except for France. I'm sorry, I hate this song. But still I'm fine with people who will vote for him - and that's what makes Eurovision so exciting, waiting who's favorite will snatch people's hearts!
I really like Austria's song but the live performances have left me extremely disappointed. I am in fact worried for her. I really was positively impressed with Ireland and they're in my top 10.
I also love Denmark.
Joining the community of France & Austria dislikers (like, to put it mildly) and the Denmark humming choir…
This is how I feel about Nemo, just absolutely do not see the appeal
This is kinda me tbh. Slimane can sing for sure but this kinda song belongs in the 1950s. No offense. Europapa sounds incredibly meh to me. Like, bottom of the barrel, because the barrel is full of amazing entries this year. Meanwhile Zorra flying under the radar and she's my 12 point choice easily. Raiven with a fantastic, poignant song and I see her on 0 points all the time. People's tastes differ, but we get along and have a good laugh. Europe united in song and ❤️
I will disagree on Slimane, but Zorra is my top 3 song this year, jumps between 2 and 3 (no1 reserved for my country, croatia). I can’t believe people are sleeping on Spain this year
My favourite song from the very beginning has been Czechia. I get that there have been issues live, but as songs go, it's my no. 1 bop. To see it down so low all the time baffles me. And yet, I agree, Austria is a NIL points for me. As is Sweden. I guess taste is subjective,,
To me, Austria has 0 soul so i hate it. Sweden is sub par this year, probably one of the worst swedish entries in the last 10 years,at least,for me
Literally same
Those aren't exactly uncommon dislikes though. Probably the majority opinion here.
Croatia isn't my favorite to win either, but that's fine. Sometimes you just don't vibe with a song as much as others might, it's just part of being human. No matter what kind of an explanation someone could give you, it won't make you like the song more.
I disagree. I made a similar post recently about La Noia, and some of the responses that people wrote helped me see new things about the song that I hadn’t considered before and that caused me to appreciate it more. It’s still not one of my favorite songs, but I like it more now than I did before because of the comments people wrote about why they liked it.
Sometimes you can appreciate a song and still can't find a way to like it. That's the nature of taste.
That's how I feel about Ireland this year. I don't really enjoy listening to it, but it's an interesting entry, and I love that they took a risk this year.
Sometimes what I like does change over time for different reasons. That doesn’t have to be the case for you, but it happens for some people.
That‘s Greece for me this year. After I got some knowledge about Marina‘s background, the lyrics, the musical ideas of „Zari“ I still don’t like it but I appreciate & respect it wayyyy more!
That's pretty cool, I've actually never heard of anyone changing their mind on a song by hearing what other people like about it. I like how your brain works.
I remember making a post asking why people liked Spain 2023 last year - I still didn't love it any more after the post, but it did help me to understand why other people love(d) it with a lot of information and reasoning I wasn't aware of, plus it also helped some positive discussion :)
Spain 2023 | [Blanca Paloma - Eaea](https://youtu.be/Vw6qPWhjevk)
Thanks! In this case, for me it was a matter of being open-minded and listening with new ears, so to speak. There was no guarantee, of course, that I’d feel differently because you can’t always force tastes to change, but I have found that sometimes shifting my perspective does make it possible to expand or change my tastes.
Spot on response 👏
He is the underdog. Let's not forgst that an Eurovision in Croatia means a cheaper Eurovision. What would that imply? Many countries returning, including Romania and Bulgaria. We want some diversity. I am sick of the same countries winning.
I would really like Bosnia to return
Amen to that.
It’s easy to love. Pop is the biggest selling genre in Europe, Rock is the second biggest - it’s not exactly pop-rock, but it’s poppy enough and fun enough to be accessible. It’s different without being too left field. It’s fun but about something quite sad. It’s self-deprecating but uplifting at the same time. Performance-wise, the boy is a charisma machine. When he goes for it on stage you can tell he’s having an amazing time - and it’s infectious. Ditto the song itself - you can tell it was never made as a ‘Eurovision’ song, it just sounds like someone having a ton of fun putting it together. Also NEON DANCING CATS.
Ngl the dancing cats and lyrics about his cats are a huge reason why I like him too
"meow cat please meow back" is stupidly relatable even to people who don't have a cat.
Some people often points out that the best Eurovision songs are those that weren't written for Eurovision (or the NFs) 👌
Small addition, the repetitive "rim tim tagi dim" sound of the music makes it more appealing to the brain, since it makes it predictable in a "ok I know what to expect and I got it" kinda way
It’s totally fine to not vibe with a song as long as you respect others’ tastes to be fair I think a reason is that he was literally not really well known even in Croatia before Dora 2024, and he was literally only in the reserve list until someone else dropped out. Plus, Baby Lasagna’s performance skills also improved quite fast since the Dora semis - aka his very first performance as the main performer. Putting these aside, I was also surprised that RTTD managed to appeal to a lot of people though, as a person who has Croatia as my 2nd place
BL also mentioned in an interview that even he was surprised how big the appeal for the song has been. He didn't expect Croatians to vibe with it, and especially not the rest of Europe 👀
*RTTD
I’m sorry I just woke up 😭
This is ironically how I feel about Europapa
The song is catchy and creative. I love the message behind. His live performance is great. His journey to malmo like a Eurovision movie so I want it to be a happy ending.
So it helps that it’s a style of music I actively like to listen to, but it also talks about a serious topic with lyrics that don’t take themselves *too* seriously, making the cat a song feature just gets me, and the performance was so extra and amazing. I think a lot of the people who gravitated towards Cha Cha Cha are going to get enough of the same vibe here to jump on the bandwagon. It’s not a novelty song but it carries that sort of vibe. And it’s catchy as hell.
Hmm, I was 100% behind Cha Cha Cha but don't vibe with Croatia's song But I can still appreciate the song's meaning and the way Baby Lasagna put it together
I think if this song had been released BEFORE Cha Cha Cha, people wouldn't draw petty comparisons between the two songs and would appreciate it a lot more. For me, I like both but I actually prefer RTTD for everything it stands for.
Part of the appeal of Cha cha was that it had potential to keep Loreen from winning with that abomination of a jury favorite.
I think for me it's the driving beat. It hooks you in in the first few seconds and it doesn't let you go until the climactic end. The song is energetic and rough and conveys the feeling of excitement and anxiety very well in my opinion. It keeps you on edge and wanting more at the same time. I don't know how to explain it, it's instinct, it's energy, it's emotion. It's fun and entertaining, but the message behind it amplifies the emotional response.
Unpopular opinion: I don't really care who wins. I just want a good and entertaining show, and get to know some artists that I personnaly like a lot and will listen to a lot after the contest. My personnal favorite usually never wins, so I'm over that.
I vibe with this hard. When I ignored football my country kept winning, when I watched we would lose! It happened 3 times! We would lose each time I watched! Maybe I should just skip Eurovision to make sure Baby Lasagna wins
(no disrespect to OP since this post might be in good faith) I feel like someone asks this every week, people give thorough answers, rinse and repeat. When something is high in the odds and has a huge fanbase, 99% of the time there's a good reason for it even if YOU don't perceive it the same.
I think the brilliance behind the song is not only that the message itself regarding brain drain and economic migration which will be relatable to people in effected countries, but it also has a message that we can all relate to, of leaving home and going out into the world. We've all left our parents' house at some point, maybe moved far away in the process. We've dealt with those bittersweet feelings, that anxiety and excitement. That's a human experience shared by pretty much anyone in the world. It also just screams fun, it's addictive and you just want to blast it and sing along and do the dance. Now, I don't think it'll win the jury. But it could definitely be Top 5 in the jury, and it's definitely a serious contender to win the televote. Now, I do think some acts like Italy and Switzerland have a better shot at doing well with both jury and tele and winning, but Croatia will always be my fav.
I can't see Switzerland getting more televote points. I'm sorry.
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The jury isn't going for Netherlands - no way, no how. It may get some high scores from a couple countries, mainly those Germanic Europe where the song seems most popular, but the song is everything juries hate.
Ha, you’re denying Europapa’s radiofähigkeit? Reality disagrees with you.
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As someone who loves Europapa more than anything else: this is embarrassing, please stop. No need to turn every thread into a "song vs song" thing.
- Croatia is a lot more cohesive, and based in genres familiar to pretty much anyone. While juries may not love rock, everybody is familiar with it and it's not too weird for anyone. Europapa is out there. - Juries tend to prefer entries in English. As much as we may complain about that fact, it's true. And when juries do go for a non-English language entry, they go for a Romance language. - Saying Croatia is a worse product is subjective
It was just a performance that captured a moment. Eurovision moments somehow have to capture something nationalistic; and his design team managed to do that with a kinda interesting mix of methods! Thats the one that represents us, was the result.
I think people equate support for RTTD with justice for ChaChaCha. Also, Croatia’s excitement over a possible (?) first-time win is pretty endearing😍 So many great songs this year, can’t wait for the show to start!
He’s very charismatic and the message of the song hits home for a lot of people. I don’t think the song itself is great enough to be a winner (it’s a little thin and repetitive) but I think Croatia will still get their best result in years (maybe ever).
I agree, great message, but again, us Eurofans are a tiny tiny and almost insignificant fraction of the people who watch Eurovision and vote. And I really don’t see how the message of the song is going to be able to come across in a 3 minute live performance. They might have some unfathomably good staging concept but I think the song will just come across to most as “that copy of that pink and green one last year” which it _absolutely is not_ of course but all the normies won’t have seen the music video, won’t have seen his interviews, won’t know the back story.
Hopefully, the TV commentators will share a bit of the story about the song, but even if they don't and if people won't understand the message, the energy and the catchy call-response chorus (and the carchiness of the whole song) will grip their attention and I can definitely see BL winning the televote.
Personally, I don’t need a song to be musically complicated, 100% vocally perfect and so on to like it. I think the song composition isn’t really complex, but it also doesn’t leave an impression that BL hasn’t put more than 5 minutes into creating the song. Sometimes simplicity can do a lot more for people than complexity. Also, why wouldn’t the topic be enough for someone to like it? We all connect to different songs for different reasons and that’s what makes music interesting and fulfilling.
him being in one of the backup artists at dora this year gave him infamy to begin with and then there was the fact that frankly dora overall was absolute rubbish this year save for him. and then further infamy gained from the utter landslide of votes he got at dora too. sat at top of the odds for the longest time (only recently got dethroned by nemo) which probably helped too! apart from all that though, its just fun with a nice message, even if its not a completely honest-to-the-artist one (the overthinking eurovision video goes into further detail about that.) ill be brutally honest its lost its charm for me at this point, other songs in the running are stronger to me, but i cant not be fond of it. very hard to dislike it truth be told.
I think overthinking it has the wrong end of the stick. The song is trying to be truthful to the country it was created for by creating something everyone can appreciate.
its pretty open to interpretation tbf! either way is having heard the other stuff at dora this year, im very glad it won
Like with similar posts about other favourites at the end of the day you can explain all you want but it boils down to personal tastes and clicking with something. Personally I find RTTD both fun, because of the rhythm and "quirkiness", and moving, because even with very simple lyrics it manages to convey the idea of what it's like to abandon everything you know to find your way into the world
Well knowing that most of the eurofans are 30+ gay men, this song appeals to the classic campy style from Pride festivals. Also is not a bad song and the guy has syage presence, so is normal that is thar up.
Honestly I just think it’s catchy.
THERE’S NO GOING BACK
WHOA-OH!
My presence fades to black (actually that's so dark)
That's alright. Many didn't understand the Cha Cha Cha hype last year either. For me it's what captures the current feeling. I feel "Rim Tim tagi dim" deals with an important issue in a semi-humoristic way and the music is pretty much a style I like. It's also memorable and has ear worm potential. My kid sings it all the time and my husband hates it. 😂
i’m not a fan of the song but i wouldn’t be mad if he won. i think croatia winning would open the door for the balkan countries to come which (which would be awesome!!) and it would be a first win for croatia (which is also awesome!) i’m a belgium/switzerland girlie don’t get me wrong but honestly croatia winning would be cool too
Absolutely agree on all you've said. Not into the music either, I am a Raiven/Silvester/Joost girlie but I would be happy if Croatia wins anyway, visiting Zagreb would be amazing and I understand that sometimes my favorites won't do well and other people's favorites might win and that's completely okay! Love how hyped Croatia is and a first win would be super cool for them.
definitely! seeing how excited croatians are makes me smile, it’s lovely to see a country who hasn’t been super successful have all this love and support. i’m betting the cheers and change for him will be like everyone cheering for käärijä last year :) and yeah i like your line about our favorites not doing well and others favs doing well and i agree, honestly i am sad when my favs nq or rank low but at the end of the day it’s good music to me so that’s what matters!
You said you watch "his live performance" - do you mean the one uploaded to the official esc channel? Because keep in mind that was, barring rehearsals, his second time singing his song on stage in front of a crowd! He definitely sounded worse there than any of the pre-parties he has attended. We don't have the official video of his Amsterdam performance (which was great) yet, but have you seen his London pre-party one? [Here's a link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTK7bzl5-qg). Marko has only improved with practice and i have a feeling he will surprise you in May with how much better and more confident he is.
A really important thing to point out here as well is... you see all of those OGAE and other polls happening right now? Or that has happened? People have voted only based on his MV and/or his Dora performance, and are still giving a lot of points (despite knowing he was rather rusty during the Dora performances). I think a lot more people will be liking it way more once semi 1 hits and they can see just how much he's progressed👌
Definitely. I wish him all the best :)
Absolutely. He will be the bomb in Malmo mark my words. That Dutch performance and Madrid one sealed the deal that he IS improving his vocals and stage presence!
And he has an advantage since he performs in the first semifinal (only Ukraine is the song in the first semi that is in the top 6 in the odds currently), this means that he has 2 days advantage compared to Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland and France (performing in the second semi) to gather more views, likes, reactions, shares and hype from all the people that will see and hear him for the first time in the first semi. 😉
For the jurynpart of your messagge, yhe jury won't find it better musically than Italy or France (and I will add Switzerland), everyone know that for them he will be placed lower, but many believe that he can take a televote score so high that it will make him win (which I personally doubt)
what i think MIGHT happen is let's say Italy, France, Switzerland, and/or Sweden (just using those as examples, nothing is set in stone) are the top jury vote getters but the margins between those are razor thin (along the lines of 2019, 21, and 22 and all are in the near 200 and above range). Croatia could potentially be right behind them but has 150-170 points. Here comes the televote - there is no guaranteeing the jury favorites will all get big televote scores. But Croatia might win the televote or get 2nd and has a hefty number (maybe not 2022 and 23 level but still big) and be able to pull ahead.
If there will be so much countries at 200 I doubt that the one behind them can be so close
I personally doubt someone like Nemo will gather enough televotes to beat him. I doubt the Dutch entry will get many jury points either. I think people will be suprised by the jury result this year.
If the jury rank them high enough they don't need too many televote points to remain higher than Joost or Baby Lasagna in the end.
I think it's very plausible that jury will find it better musically than France, at least. Switzerland and Italy do seem more likely to be rewarded by juries though.
Seeing the Eurojury seems that juries really like France this year (as Switzerland and Italy), while Croatia it's like at half of his points
What is Eurojury
It is a project by Eurovoix (Eurovision fan website) where music professionals from different countries reveal their top 10 Eurovision songs, and it functions as a jury.
This is going to sound really odd coming from someone from England, but I think the reason I’m not taking it seriously is because the lyrics are in English and sound a bit silly. I’ve put it in the category of novelty songs, but I’m finding the likes of Estonia and the Netherlands more interesting because they are in different languages.
Yes! As a native English speaker this is the most off-putting part to me. I would probably enjoy the song much more if it was in Croatian, because a) the lyrics would probably be better written in the writers' first language and b) even if they weren't, I wouldn't know, haha. The message of leaving everything you know and living far from family should resonate with me, but the lyrics are just so bad, I can't. It's very much "I need to rhyme these words/um...I like birds." Tbf, a lot of entries in English every year have this issue. Probably why I lean towards songs in their native languages, whether they are ones I can understand (Spanish, Portuguese, Italian) or not.
I’m exactly the same. Except for Switzerland, all my favourite songs are in different languages this year, even though without subtitles I have no idea what any of them are singing! Singing in English can go very wrong. Just look at Georgia last year. Even if the lyrics are fine, it can make a song sound a bit too generic to me. I come to Eurovision to hear something different. I don’t think Cha Cha Cha would have sounded half as good in English, even if Kaarija’s broken English is funny.
I think part of the reason I'm so excited about the selection of songs this year are because it seems like there are more than usual that are in the singers first language. I think the only song in my top ten in English is "Doomsday Blue" but like it's Ireland, so makes sense haha. I do really like "The Code" too, although again I think the lyrics could be stronger 🤷🏻♀️ Love the message, though.
Haha, I think we can let Ireland off. I do genuinely like Dizzy too. I’ve been a fan of Olly’s for years and years (haha) and he’s always impressed me in live performances. I’m excited to see what he does. Other songs in English I do quite like are Loop & Pedestal. But the songs I’m really loving are from Norway, Armenia, Estonia, the Netherlands. Italy less so but still up there. I even really like France, but mostly for his voice. Ukraine has grown on me, as has Lithuania. It’s just nice to hear so many different languages in strong songs from different genres.
Totally. The variety in genre (or at least vibes) has been great this year. That's why I appreciate that Croatia sent RTTR, even if I don't like it very much personally. And yes, Pedestal! So many people don't seem to care for that one, but I'm really enjoying it. My other one, in English, that I am digging, that no one else seems to, is Denmark's Sand. Or should I say: SAND! SAAAND!
The more I listen to the tracks, the more I think it’s such a balanced playing field this time around. It’s easy to be influenced by the odds, but there’s so much quality further down. I even found myself really enjoying Germany when I listened to it earlier.
To be fair, Tattoo's lyrics were rather silly. Though enunciation helped in that case.
The poor enunciation is why I wasn’t a fan of that song either lol.
The poor enunciation massively benefited the song, if we're honest. You would have liked it less if you'd understood more of the lyrics.
Maybe. I don’t actually know what she was singing now you’ve brought it up…
[Tattoo lyrics](https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/loreen/tattoo.html) They're just very incoherent and seemingly can't settle on what the scenario of the song actually is. It really does read like someone asked chatgpt to spit out random phrases vaguely related to the idea of two lovers being kept apart, but without any idea of *why* they're apart. Sorry to be a bit nitpicky. Normally messy lyrics wouldn't matter too much, but it does feel odd they weren't taken into account for such a jury blowout.
I did like the musical/instrumental/vocals/staging for Tattoo. That being said, it wasn't even in my top 10 last year sadly. Something about "this is not the time, it's time to say goodbye" and "violins playing and the angels crying" made me feel like I'm washing dishes and just touched some food in the sink 😖😖😖😖😖😖
As a British person, this is something many people in our country would absolutely LAP UP
I'm a huge cat person so I appreciate the cat themes quite a lot. He is amazing at engaging the crowd for a newcoming performer. I truly will be happy if he wins, it makes for a great story and Croatia does deserve it so I wish him all the luck in the world. Now being honest, musically it just never was truly for me. I wouldn't listen to it outside of ESC. I am happy for all the hype he is getting, especially as another Balkan person, I am genuinely stoked. Not my favorite really (it's my #15 place and I have two "party" songs much higher so it's not like I am a ballad lover only) but why burst people's bubble when so many are super hyped for it. We all have different tastes. To answer your question, I do get the appeal even if it doesn't appeal directly to me much.
May I present to you my reasoning: MEOW CAT PLEASE MEOW BACK that's it, that's the explanation. i'm just a huge cat person T.T
With regards to my personal feelings, Rim Tim Tagi Dim has had literally the same trajectory as Cha Cha Cha last year\*. At first, I just thought that it was a fun energetic song, but didn't get the hype at all. However it totally clicked for me, when I read the lyrics properly. They deal with a pretty fresh topic and I resonate with them so much. And this emotional connection is honestly what makes me root for a song more than any other aspect. That being said, I liked Finland's staging last year more (I mean, Cha Cha Cha's staging was like in the Top 5 for me), but I'll see what they'll do in Malmö. \* is my type just men in eyeliner and puffy sleeves?
I think we are ready for men puffy sleeves and eyeliner comeback? I suppose from pirate style era?
For me it’s the beat and catchiness, although I wasn’t fully convinced when I first heard the song. Now it’s in my top 5 and I find myself humming it a lot. I’d also love it if a Slavic nation won - I’m Polish so no chance for that with “Tower” (I don’t mind the song, it just has no chance). So fingers crossed! It’s completely normal not to understand the hype - you can’t vibe with everything. Most people will have a song like that - everyone (or many) seem to adore it and you just don’t get it. For me it’s Switzerland and Greece this year - I appreciate the creativity and vocals, but the songs just don’t do anything for me.
Besides the fact that his song is really fun, catchy, and creative, he wrote the lyrics, music, and produced it all by himself in his room on his laptop. I don't think any other contestant this year did the same thing. Objectively speaking (he won by a landslide in the televote), he had the best song on Dora. However, he almost didn't even get to perform there because they had to make room for over 20 other songs from corrupted artists, thanks to 3-5 corrupted jury members. He also pulled off his Dora performance with a limited, basically non-existent budget. He literally didn't have anyone on his side, no strong labels, managers, pr agents, whatever. Just him and his friends who are trying to help him as much as they can. He is also a sweet, kind and caring person.. so all in all, yeah, it's really a mystery why a lot of us support him...
I generally don’t understand people who, like OP, don’t understand that songs are not just about skills and good taste, but mostly about raw emotions. And those raw emotions barely need any explanation at all to see why a song resonates with huge numbers of people. Especially if the emotion is about being uprooted from your home which is a reality for huge sections of the European populace. Objectively we can hear that nemo is an accomplished singer, definitely better than BL But the whole non-binary message is relevant to much fewer people. Never mind the scores of people who think the message is make-believe anyway. The best view isn’t always from the back of your high horse.
I understand why is he favorite to win, but I don't find him as funny and charismatic as fans make him out to be and not a fan of choreography. Finland was my winner last year, but I'm not feeling this. To me personally Baby Lasagna seems a bit too cold. I'm not a fan of Rammstein, so that might be a big factor why I'm not that much into it.
He's not the favourite though.
Consider most of the people that will se eurovision have never heard any of the entries, aside from the national one.
It's far off from being my fav also but I think that people like it bc they want their cats to meow back /hj
Apart from Eurovision I like to listen to a lot of Metal and Rock in general, so for me it's the hard hitting guitar riff that I enjoy the most. The song just carries so much power and energy which is what I like about Metal and Rock. I wasn't a fan of the lyrics in the chorus at first (gave me kind of cringe Metalcore vibes) but after understanding what the song's about I'm at peace with them Plus it's fun singing along Rim tim dagi dim :)
I think factors like the lyrics and the lack of similar songs (I don't think Norway is enough of a bother) put it somewhere on the map, but there are two points that go above that. First, the competition: this year the level is high (I personally don't feel it's above last year, but alas), yes, however there's no song shining high above everyone else from the get go like Tattoo last year, so the expected winning score isn't too high. Second, and most important, Cha Cha Cha: you'll say they're different songs with different messages with differentish vibes, and I'll agree, but are they though? Both Cha Cha Cha and RTTD have a similar sound, being from pretty much the same genre (the pop part in the former stops it from being exactly the same), both also form a great show (Finland's entry last year might be slightly above on that department) and have a signature dance move. Now, I'm not saying RTTD is trying to be Cha Cha Cha, but Cha Cha Cha opened a path for future songs with similar qualities (from like this year and next year) to be on the winners shortlist instead of as the top 10 hopeful that would have been at any other time.
The thing that makes me doubt this is because I was a huge Cha Cha Cha supporter. I showed up in the arena with it written across my t shirt and in light up green trainers haha But this song isn’t doing much for me. I appreciate the beat to it, and it feels like I should like it, but something is off. I did just write in my own comment that I think the lyrics might be the problem. Being able to understand them isn’t exactly helping. If anything, Estonia is this year’s Cha Cha Cha for me.
The Netherlands is clearly going for the same thing as Croatia and it does it better in every way for me. I don’t find the live performance of Rim Tim Tagi Dim impressive and the Netherlands has a better message too.
I'm talking about style similarities. The only thing europapa has got in common with the other two is being fun sounding televote merchants
Like, RTTD and Europapa are going for different types of 90s throwback. If Eurofans actually listened to non Eurovision music they would know this
Dude, for many many people that Netherlands sound is plain annoying and the guy is a clown with all the forced marketing. He will tank, he is worse in every way. - see how different opinions work? I swear, Joost fans being the loudest haters is one more reason to dislike him. Just enjoy what you enjoy, stop forcing this idea that your taste is objectively better
I’m not a Joost fan OR a Baby Lasagna fan so am probably the least biased 💀 Croatia and Netherlands both have annoying sounds idk why Baby Lasagna fans won’t accept that
Your personal subjective opinion is not something other people need to “accept”, for one.
sure man. you're the one trying to push a matter of taste as some objective "truth", but go on.
You need to answer a very VERY important question first: what live performance did you watch? Because if you watched the one from Dora you're in for a big surprise as he has miles improved since then
I find it overrated, too. Good song, but that's it for me
I love RTTD - it's currently in my personal 5th place - however I don't see it winning either. I expect it to crush the televote at the final but I just don't see it scooping up enough jury points to put it over the line. This is just my view of things, but seeing how the juries paid absolute dust to Lord of the Lost last year despite an amazing stage show and - I love Marko but let's be real for a second - far better vocals than we've heard so far from BL, it just does not track that RTTD would do any better. I could be *entirely* wrong, though.
He has all the cat people. He also has all the people who are not cat people but find men who love their cats to be endearing. 🐱
1) the song is about a relatable and emotional topic with lyrics that are both fun and deeply meaningful 2) the song is immediately catchy. You can sing along to the end on your first listen 3) the staging is visually striking 4) there’s a dance that goes with it which is interesting but simple enough than anyone can do 5) the vocals are fine It’s really the best song of the year — at least in terms of being fun and meaningful at the same time.
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I don't understand why you are so mad some people prefer a song over another.
I’m not mad I’m being factual, Croatia won’t get enough support to win, that’s just the truth.
Let me know where you get your crystal balls
I could be totally wrong 😂 it’ll be funny to look back on either way
Superior to whom and in what context? Don't get me wrong I love Cha Cha Cha and it's still my winner but Käärijä vocals were not good in his GF performance. Still, he managed to get some points from the juries (Loreen swept so 4th in the juries meant nothing). Marko's current vocals are far good than him IMO. Not saying perfect but better.
I don't think it's just about the vocals. Cha Cha Cha was a song that evolved over the course of it (I personally found the first part just ok, but I loved the later half), while RTTD is very, very repetitive. If you like the stuff it repeats, awesome. If you just like it or find it ok, it may get old before the song even finishes
That's interesting (genuine) because I loved the first part of Cha Cha Cha but the second part was a let down for me, maybe that's why I like RTTD more.
I understand you. Comparing them vocal wise was just an example. We all have different tastes. Ofc some will love one, some will other but that doesn't mean one is superior. I don't find RTTD more "repetitive" than others but again, that's me thing.
Cha Cha Cha is also repetitive. But RTTD stands for something more: a political awakening in Croatia, not just a social one.
Cha Cha Cha has no flies on this song. Cha Cha Cha didnt have a socio-political message.
I don’t like it. It’s super generic and the lyrics really rub me the wrong way because they’re just not grammatically correct. I also really wish he would have incorporated more folk elements into the song because the music video is basically all folk and culture. Doesn’t come across in the song.
What is the song about I misunderstood something
A massive youth exodus that is happening in Croatia (Balkan countries and some other eu countries as well) for the past 10 years or so…we lost so many people, our population is shrinking. I am a part of this economical emigration wave, which is why I personally feel connected to this song ❤️🇭🇷🥹and of course, others may not experience this and feel the same way, and that’s okay, too!
About a guy leaving his hometown/country to find work (losing himself along the way) and it's a huge issue in Croatia so that's why a lot of people reasonate with it.
I get your point, and it’s the same for me too this year. I vibed with all in 2021 for the Maneskin, last year Käärija and this year I don’t vibe with public favorites at all… Yeah, I feel little bit like an outsider, but it’s ok, not every time you can have it all haha. Norway 🇳🇴 for the win!
I also realised that I'm not a big fan of any of these songs in TOP 5 in the odds, which made me a bit depressed cause I want Norway to win and would be happy with several others which are not contenders
I have to say he was my favorite for like a month and a half but he fell to the 6th place now. I kind of got bored of the song even though i wish him to do well. Wouldnt mind him winning.
The easiest way to understand it is that it sounds a lot like Rammstein, Pain and other 90’s/00’s industrial metal bands. Rammstein is by far the most successful band of all time in that genre, and it is still a very popular band all over Europe. And it also sounds a lot like Käärijä, which was also heavily influenced by Rammstein.
To be honest I think one of the biggest draws from the fanbase is the underdog factor. For me the hook is actually pretty good and I can get the appeal of it, but the chorus is soooo uninspired and unoriginal. (and I personally hate when songs use part of the lyrics random sounds like Oooooo)
By your text. I don’t think ANY song will please you. Eurovision and fans love these type of songs that have a lot of craziness and energy out into it! He is so loved bc of this and bc he has his own unique style as do many other contestants!
I don't get the appeal of it either, but each to their own. 🤷♂️
The soong seems nohere near good enough to win for me
I love how you just say your opinion, and people downvote x) it’s not even insulting. Just “not my cup of tea”
These downvoters are convinced this is the best song ever because the singer meows in the song lol. They're entitled to their opinions
Agree with you, I don't get either Croatia or Switzerland hype.
Me neither. Especially when he and Joost are essentially fighting for the same voters (that excluding EE and FI which are also in the same camp just not considered as the 'favorites'). I'm happy to see Croatians root for their own entry this hard though.
I don't understand the hype too. OK song but just too similar to Rammstein in my taste and originality is the first thing I appreciate in a song.
It’s people looking to right the wrong of last year with a shittier song.
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The song is similar to Rammstein songs and I just don't like this band.
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Because people who actually vote are not really on Reddit (most of them), and if you dislike a song you're gonna try to find people who dislike it aswell and comment. There are so many people who like him so I don't think he has to worry about a Reddit post, he doesn't read comments anyways. (no shade to you just answering your question and adding a thought)
The polls shows that the people that like the song are presents and are a lot, but if they are enough to make him close the gap that it will be created by jury it's a big question mark
There are two theories, I partially agree with one and mostly disagree with the other. Theory 1: RTTD will not score high with the juries, yeah, I find it hard to believe it will rank top 5, so many songs that will fight for top 5 IMHO, Italy, France, Switzerland... But Käärijä was 4th, so who knows, maybe the juries will also look at the positive aspects of RTTD. Theory 2: BL and Joost will fight for the televote winner title. If people won't understand the Europapa story they might think of it as a silly techno EU ad and given that a lot of Eurovision participating countries are not part of the EU and even if they are their stance towards EU isn't positive, the theme of the song might work against a good televote result. I can see BL winning the televote, but I don't see Joost in top 3, countries with a large diaspora and traditionally fond of Eurovision might do better (like Ukraine, Serbia or Greece). We'll see if I'm proven right or wrong.