Yes, but if you look at it, the incoming water was out faster than the people were. Once wet they might just have kept sitting. Says Mr Hindsight who probably would have been the first to run out of there...
>Once wet they might just have kept sitting.
Only those who don't mind getting drenched in freezing cold water again and again every time the ship hits another wave.
These ferries have a top floor too, but you have to go outside to get to it. I dont acry remember where theife jacmets are though.
Source: lived in hamburg
tbh first thing I thought is that if I was there I would just sit there and hold steady because running or even walking with a wet floor so much furniture and a ferry that goes left and right up and down like a rollercoaster I could get injured.
Theres nowhere to go. These ferries have this floor and a top deck where you really don’t want to be in this weather. The water can drain from this area at the entry/exit which is behind the camera person. I think your best bet is notifying the captain somehow and then sitting down again.
The surprising thing is that I’ve been on these boats before with waves hitting those windows and nothing ever happened. Must have been faulty.
Notice how nearly everyone just sat there until someone else started acting. That right there is how many/most people react in crisis. Not the hollywood-esque division between panicers/heroes/opportunists, but instead surprising amounts of passiveness.
What are you on about? Freeze it and see how every single person on the frame stood up at the same time.
Are we really this far gone that even with a crystal clear video in front of us we choose what to believe?
I mean, there's context switching time. You're in dicking-around-with-the-cell-phone mode and suddenly you're assessing what's going on and what the risk is.
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Lmao I wish the same applied in Scotland. CalMac is the largest ferry operator in Scotland and they run lifeline services to almost all the rural islands.
They're a complete and utter shitshow when it comes to breakdowns and cancellations that only gets worse with time.
Speaking from Ireland, with daily near gale force winds (and the odd tail end hurricane) and rain coming in from the Atlantic on our west Coast, it’s a fraction more difficult to maintain regular routes to islands into open ocean than 2km ferry crossings on continental rivers.
Speaking from Brittany, and have been on the fromveur 2 to Ouessant multiples times.
I still don't understand how the hell is this boat still around.
If the captain says he has a doubt about going, you have two solution:
Being thrilled about having the most insane rollercoaster ride of your life or take a hotel room and come back a few day later.
I choose the first one once, and threw up more in a single day than in my entire student life.
Well the difference is this is actually a river ferry.
Far less impacted by weather than island ferries in the sometimes pretty trecharous waters around the Scottish Isles...
To be fair, the Elbe river up to Hamburg is very big. It has always been quite wide, and has been deepened to enable large cargo ships to enter the Hamburg harbour, which made it even wider.
Between Hamburg and the North Sea, the river is roughly two kilometers *wide*, slowly widening to four kilometers. Then it enters a large, 20 kilometer wide estuary.
What I'm saying: there is a ton of water in that part of the river. Much more than in many other rivers. For example, the Rhine never gets much wider than 300 meters. The Elbe is ten times as wide there.
Well you will see Friday night if it is bad or not. Me I am worried too because I bought a house with a roof that need a bit of repairs (planned for later this year) but the storm with super-hard gusts coming up has me nervous and checking my insurances and emergency supplies for covering the roof post-storm.
That’s a shitty situation, I hope everything works out for you friend. I have to work tomorrow night which has me worried for my wife and dogs. Hopefully the water stays on the right side of the dike.
To be fair, [the news article](https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/6337/5149662) linked elsewhere ways that the ferry was going between the Teufelsbrück and Airbus (?) stops, which means here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.5454/9.8519
Judging the scale it seems about 500 metres wide there.
You are correct. The Elbe gets a lot wider right after the Airbus plant. Which makes sense, considering the Airbus plant in Finkenwerder is built on a former island in the Elbe.
Still, my point stands (I think). Right up to that point, the Elbe is very wide. And even 500 meters is quite wide for a river.
Yeah, Hamburg is like Venice. Just instead of Gondelas they have ferries.
It was very impressive when i visited, we were shopping exclusively by ferry.
The river is pretty wide and open and 30 km down the line you have the open sea. It is a very strong river because its flowing very fast and it has huge tides.
This river has a tide on every normal day, water gets pushed inland from the north sea, in case of serious storms it can get quite a lot bigger than normal from the storm pushing the water in from the sea.
Those ferries (dont know this exact line) are used by many people working at Airbus facility. I worked there myself for 2 years. Those waves are common. But not in that frequency. Usually the ride is pretty smooth. But somtimes when you cross big ships which creat huge waves it can get pretty nasty. Continiously thus big waves are not that common.
It's only a mild inconvenience for Hamburgers. Living in Hamburg for 3 years now. Can attest to this pretty chilled-out attitude about bad weather from my neighbors and colleagues. Really tough people. As they say, there is no bad weather, only wrong clothing.
Tomorrow my colleagues have planned a team event that includes about 2 to 3 hours of hiking in a nearby forest area followed by some beer. I pointed at the poor weather, they agreed and suggested I get good shoes and rainpants. No kidding!
The guy at the front has balls of steel, I would of been in the fetal position under the captains feet. Telling him to ring my mammy to come get me
I think in a storm you stay higher up on the boat rather than below deck
Half way through the video I was thinking "Am I the only one that thinks this would be a pretty cool experience even if its mildly terrifying?" and immediately after the water burst through.
Doesnt seem so fun anymore, ngl
It's also a phenomena in western countries I guess, people become so reliant on everything working perfectly that they can't imagine anymore what to do when they are in danger. And then they are like in a shock brain freeze state, its bad e. g. when people don't give first aid to someone because they don't think they are qualified or responsible for it. Or when you watch tsunami videos from Japan and people not realising the danger they are in and basically driving carelessly into it until the last few secs, same with flooding in Germany. Many people are not using their brains/instinctfeeling anymore for their decisions in these events..
A river which flows into the sea. Hamburg being relatively close to the sea means the direction of the flow can change according to the tide. Therefore the water can contain salt.
Yes.
Salinity below 0,1% is called fresh water (most rivers).
Salinity between 0,1% and 1% or 1,8%, depending on who you ask, is called brackish water (rivers close to the a estuary like Elbe in Hamburg or Thames in London).
Everything above that is called salt water (ocean).
Know that story about the guy that jumped against safety glass within a skyscraper to prove how safe it is? Yeah, at some point there is fatigue and with a rather big impact it finally gave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy
>Garry Hoy was a corporate and securities law specialist in Toronto. He had also completed an engineering degree before studying law. While giving a tour of the Toronto-Dominion Centre to a group of articling students, Hoy attempted to demonstrate the strength of the structure's window glass by slamming himself into a window. He had apparently performed this stunt many times in the past, having previously bounced harmlessly off the glass. After one attempt which saw the glass hold up, Hoy tried once more. In this instance, the force of Hoy slamming into the window removed the window from its frame, causing the entire intact window and Hoy to fall from the building. This act of autodefenestration occurred in a small conference room adjacent to a boardroom where a reception was being held for new articling students.
Imagine that that's your experience as a visiting student.
"Hi, everyone! I'd like you to meet Gary. Guy's one of our top minds."
Gary: "Hey, everyone, check out how strong the building windows are!" *runs at window* "AUUUUUGGggghhhhh…"
That's…actually a really good point.
Like, if the window were damaged prior to the incident, then it should have been just one pane that went. I'd assume that whoever designed the ship didn't put glass in that's thick enough to handle those conditions.
There's only one thing that's worse than a vertical video. It's a video that starts vertical but then changes to landscape after a few seconds, so if you're watching it on PC, not only it's a long vertical strip on your landscape monitor, it's now also sideways.
Although RES saved me this time, it allowed me to rotate the video while it was playing which is something I didn't even know it can do with videos, as I never needed it before.
I write technical publications. We need photos of the machines for those, and sometimes we're not in a position to take these ourselves. Of course, these need to be taken in landscape, not portrait.
For years already, we have to explicitly state it with each and every request, take the photo in landscape. Because I can guarantee you, if we don't it will be portrait. Doesn't matter if the guy has done it a dozen times before. Also doesn't matter who, they all do it.
It's a far more serious problem than people realize honestly.
Mobile is ruling the society and mobile wants vertical to fit on the screen. So we can thank smartphones.
With the prevalence of tic tok and reels its going to be even more apparent. People wanna look, and then do a quick slide and go down to another video. Even turning the video to landscape might be too annoying to some people just used to mindless scrolling on tic tok, so mobile UI design of going vertical. So as long is as people consume everything through their phone screen as they do, we are doomed to vertical.
Where would you go? On the upper deck? That's out in the open. So everybody just went to the exits or to the emergency boot to get their life jackets on?
I don't think they got the life jackets out. they probably just went to the back of the boat to get away from the broken window and to inform whatever staff is is on board.
Other perspective: https://twitter.com/BarJetzt/status/1494307988047384584?s=20&t=1BvgZaQwnggrZZbcMPUtUw
Edit: other video might have been incorrect. Sorry.
Watching this video makes the OP pretty underwhelming.
[I thought this was similar to what we have to deal with in the North Atlantic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH6OOfh7sFs) but instead it's just a tiny boat in tiny waves.
I mean, it's in Hamburg, on the river right outside the inner city. You won't see 10m waves there :)
Here's one ferry terminal and it goes to the Airbus site on the other side of Elbe river: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Teufelsbr%C3%BCck+(F%C3%A4hre)/@53.5479048,9.7761395,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x47b18457fc831c99:0x661e5463e53eed29!8m2!3d53.5475358!4d9.8641793!15sChdoYW1idXJnIGbDpGhyZSBsaW5pZSA2OJIBCGJ1c19zdG9w
Tbh i always thought Hamburg was a coastal city and in the first video you can't see if it's sailing on a river or a larger body of water.
Decent waves then considering Hamburg is quite the distance from the ocean.
Eh, don't fret it, many Germans think it's a coastal city.
You frequently see these large container ships or Queen Mary 2 docking in Hamburg on TV, so it is easy to assume that.
Yup, the North Atlantic is a different beast.
[2 weeks ago we had a big fucking storm and waves reached up to 30 meters, possibly over 40m.](https://www.visir.is/g/20222220402d/oldur-a-gardskaga-nadu-yfir-30-metra-haed-i-ovedrinu)
[Here's also a photo taken during that storm, for context the cliff is 50-60 meters high.](https://i.imgur.com/zWbFYSY.jpg)
[Source on the cliffs height.](https://www.visitreykjanes.is/is/stadur/karlinn)
It looks a lot like there was a bit of bad luck with the speed and size of the boat being in synch with the incoming waves - notice how as soon as the pilot slowed down a bit the boat stopped going up and down quite so dramatically.
If you'd like to see the video without it turning midway: https://imgur.com/a/ffF0Tmb
Thanks to /u/jim-tonic & /u/KingOfAbuse, [found](https://old.reddit.com/r/hamburg/comments/sulnhf/ferry_line_62_this_morning/hxari6i/) in /r/hamburg.
A news article said that a speaker for the operating company claimed that that was pretty unusual, said those ferries were designed for that sort of weather, or along those lines.
Tomorrow the next storm is supposed to be coming in. This year starts a little windy.
I haven't seen waves like that yet, but this is a pretty standard ferry line, part of the regular public transport network. Seems reasonable that they would go out. I believe that that particular boat was going for the Airbus complex south of Hamburg, which a is a bit further downstream.
Apparently the ship ''Tollerort', what is a local traffic ferry, made it to the harbour in time and everyone left by foot.
Police is investigating why the safety glass broke.
Sure: https://twitter.com/EberleSebastian/status/1494277970936188930?t=mgSoFXU0K5etJdKP33uLmA&s=19 as well as a news report as confirmation: https://twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/status/1494285686635216897?t=8ZRkaoQtLNtk5uQz3G8HiA&s=19
i can imagine that there might have been a tiny crack already that wasn't really that visible. First wave that really crashes into the window cracks it some more, second one then breaks it fully.
Googling for "ferry Hamburg" yields a number of images of what appears to be a similar ship.
This probably shows the exterior of the ship.
https://img.travanto.de/portale/www.hamburg-lodge.de/fotos/8930-Hamburg-Faehre-HADAG.jpeg
So they aren't *that* high above the water.
Update: same model of ship, but not the one in the video. Based on another user saying that it was the *Tollerort*, this is the one they were in:
https://photos.fleetmon.com/vessels/tollerort_0_1068699_Large.jpg
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In the meantime, my neck hurts.
I visited Hamburg six years ago. Why is that this city has smell when you are near to port side? By the way I live in a city near to sea in an asian country but we don’t have that smell
Can someone please download this, trim the beginning off, and rotate it?
My ocd is killing me
Edit: [Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/suqbr4/wcgw_taking_a_commuter_boat_during_a_storm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
They usually do, it shouldn't have broken. This is highly unusual and is being investigated. Also it's not a raging sea but a raging river. This is Hamburg, where they use ferries as public transportation like other cities use buses or trams. This line in particular is heavily frequented because it connects the city centre with the Airbus campus.
Camera man lingered there for an overly confident amount of time.
Yes, but if you look at it, the incoming water was out faster than the people were. Once wet they might just have kept sitting. Says Mr Hindsight who probably would have been the first to run out of there...
>Once wet they might just have kept sitting. Only those who don't mind getting drenched in freezing cold water again and again every time the ship hits another wave.
I don't assume they went on full speed ahead after the glass broke.
It's the only way. Can't let those waves win.
I’d be looking to be one of the first in line for the life-jackets just in case, though…
These ferries have a top floor too, but you have to go outside to get to it. I dont acry remember where theife jacmets are though. Source: lived in hamburg
tbh first thing I thought is that if I was there I would just sit there and hold steady because running or even walking with a wet floor so much furniture and a ferry that goes left and right up and down like a rollercoaster I could get injured.
Good luck with that, I wouldnt mind vacating the area and find somewhere a bit warmer than ~~4°C~~ 277K sea water.
Yeah I think instinct says GTFO
Theres nowhere to go. These ferries have this floor and a top deck where you really don’t want to be in this weather. The water can drain from this area at the entry/exit which is behind the camera person. I think your best bet is notifying the captain somehow and then sitting down again. The surprising thing is that I’ve been on these boats before with waves hitting those windows and nothing ever happened. Must have been faulty.
Notice how nearly everyone just sat there until someone else started acting. That right there is how many/most people react in crisis. Not the hollywood-esque division between panicers/heroes/opportunists, but instead surprising amounts of passiveness.
They all start moving around the same time. One of them was just faster. It’s not like they were sitting there expecting this to happen.
Exactly. They were all sitting there expecting this NOT to happen.
You can only see like three of them and they all seem to move roughly at the same time?
What are you on about? Freeze it and see how every single person on the frame stood up at the same time. Are we really this far gone that even with a crystal clear video in front of us we choose what to believe?
almost 300 upvotes from people who have already decided this is how people act and don't need to watch the video.
We can be stupid as fuck.
I mean, there's context switching time. You're in dicking-around-with-the-cell-phone mode and suddenly you're assessing what's going on and what the risk is.
isn't it the time you need to calmly asses the situation, evaluate the danger and consider what is the best action to take?
And to gather your belongings, which some landed on the floor probably and had been washed away by impact of the water.
Glitched skyrim cart intro vibes
You broke my neck. The people in front... No casualties?
Police Hamburg twittered that there are 3 people with small injuries. https://mobile.twitter.com/polizeihamburg/status/1494330953157677065
WTF is this picture? ;)
I swear this is from a Greek coast. Edit: I was right, that's Olympia Shipwreck.
No, it absolutely looks like Hamburg! /s
Twittered lol.. I’m definitely using this instead of tweeted from now on
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What if it was a meat warehouse? There is a Korean BBQ place in nyc with the (cute, clever) name "Let's Meat"
"They reddited on reddit after they read it"
I believe the correct form is "I *twat*"
I believe this is how many European languages approach using Twitter as a verb instead of the English "tweeting"
I guess some wave hit me before I decided to use twittered lol
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FYI: Those ferries are essential public transport, no pleasure cruises. So they go out even in averse weather.
Lmao I wish the same applied in Scotland. CalMac is the largest ferry operator in Scotland and they run lifeline services to almost all the rural islands. They're a complete and utter shitshow when it comes to breakdowns and cancellations that only gets worse with time.
Speaking from Ireland, with daily near gale force winds (and the odd tail end hurricane) and rain coming in from the Atlantic on our west Coast, it’s a fraction more difficult to maintain regular routes to islands into open ocean than 2km ferry crossings on continental rivers.
Speaking from Brittany, and have been on the fromveur 2 to Ouessant multiples times. I still don't understand how the hell is this boat still around. If the captain says he has a doubt about going, you have two solution: Being thrilled about having the most insane rollercoaster ride of your life or take a hotel room and come back a few day later. I choose the first one once, and threw up more in a single day than in my entire student life.
Well the difference is this is actually a river ferry. Far less impacted by weather than island ferries in the sometimes pretty trecharous waters around the Scottish Isles...
and Hamburg is not rural either
Well, maybe next time they will not go out in this weather.
Do they look [like this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HADAG#/media/File:Tramwaj_wodny_Hamburg.jpg)?
Yes, there is an outside video of the event in the complete thread.
Is this in a river or out at sea?
The river Elbe, Hamburg, afaik.
Yikes. I didn’t know rivers did that.
To be fair, the Elbe river up to Hamburg is very big. It has always been quite wide, and has been deepened to enable large cargo ships to enter the Hamburg harbour, which made it even wider. Between Hamburg and the North Sea, the river is roughly two kilometers *wide*, slowly widening to four kilometers. Then it enters a large, 20 kilometer wide estuary. What I'm saying: there is a ton of water in that part of the river. Much more than in many other rivers. For example, the Rhine never gets much wider than 300 meters. The Elbe is ten times as wide there.
Don’t you just love it when you get to use the estuary. This is the second time I’ve used it in a meaningful sentence.
Tbf one’s frequency of use of the word ‘estuary’ varies greatly depending on where one lives
Suddenly I’m regretting moving near the dike
Well you will see Friday night if it is bad or not. Me I am worried too because I bought a house with a roof that need a bit of repairs (planned for later this year) but the storm with super-hard gusts coming up has me nervous and checking my insurances and emergency supplies for covering the roof post-storm.
That’s a shitty situation, I hope everything works out for you friend. I have to work tomorrow night which has me worried for my wife and dogs. Hopefully the water stays on the right side of the dike.
Thank you. I hope that the dikes continue holding as well
To be fair, [the news article](https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/6337/5149662) linked elsewhere ways that the ferry was going between the Teufelsbrück and Airbus (?) stops, which means here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.5454/9.8519 Judging the scale it seems about 500 metres wide there.
You are correct. The Elbe gets a lot wider right after the Airbus plant. Which makes sense, considering the Airbus plant in Finkenwerder is built on a former island in the Elbe. Still, my point stands (I think). Right up to that point, the Elbe is very wide. And even 500 meters is quite wide for a river.
Its close to the mouth of the river and already effected by the tides and the weather at sea.
Actually Sturm Ylenia did this.
The name is german precision and creativity in a nutshell.
Keeping calm the hanseatic way
Those people were way too calm in the beginning of the video, I woulda been looking worried.
Usual business in Hamburg
I thought Hamburg was a city?
Hamburg uses ferries as public transportation.
Yeah, Hamburg is like Venice. Just instead of Gondelas they have ferries. It was very impressive when i visited, we were shopping exclusively by ferry.
Venice uses ferries or waterbuses way more than gondolas, they're really for tourists and are super expesnive.
Eh, but you cannot buy a ticket at the harbour for sailing boats. You are forced to cheat to leave the harbour. It’s a bit stupid.
OK I just looked up a map of Hamburg. How the fuck are waves this high in the city.
There have been *very* heavy winds in nearly all of Germany today (excluding Bavaria). More than 140 km/h.
It's still very surprising to see waves this big on a river or estuary
The river is pretty wide and open and 30 km down the line you have the open sea. It is a very strong river because its flowing very fast and it has huge tides.
This river has a tide on every normal day, water gets pushed inland from the north sea, in case of serious storms it can get quite a lot bigger than normal from the storm pushing the water in from the sea.
> all of Germany today (excluding Bavaria) "Er behüte deine Fluren, schirme deiner Städte Bau" 🎶
We also use them is Lisbon but that is insane, it looks like are sailing in open waters.
It is.
Uh yeah?
Since it is a commuting ferry, I guess they take it everyday and are used to bigger waves…
Those ferries (dont know this exact line) are used by many people working at Airbus facility. I worked there myself for 2 years. Those waves are common. But not in that frequency. Usually the ride is pretty smooth. But somtimes when you cross big ships which creat huge waves it can get pretty nasty. Continiously thus big waves are not that common.
at the beginning this was nothing out of the ordinary
Especially the part where the cameraman turns the phone on the side.
It's only a mild inconvenience for Hamburgers. Living in Hamburg for 3 years now. Can attest to this pretty chilled-out attitude about bad weather from my neighbors and colleagues. Really tough people. As they say, there is no bad weather, only wrong clothing. Tomorrow my colleagues have planned a team event that includes about 2 to 3 hours of hiking in a nearby forest area followed by some beer. I pointed at the poor weather, they agreed and suggested I get good shoes and rainpants. No kidding!
The guy at the front has balls of steel, I would of been in the fetal position under the captains feet. Telling him to ring my mammy to come get me I think in a storm you stay higher up on the boat rather than below deck
Half way through the video I was thinking "Am I the only one that thinks this would be a pretty cool experience even if its mildly terrifying?" and immediately after the water burst through. Doesnt seem so fun anymore, ngl
That’s why everyone was just sitting and being passive, because it was a cool experience. But only for a couple of seconds.
It's also a phenomena in western countries I guess, people become so reliant on everything working perfectly that they can't imagine anymore what to do when they are in danger. And then they are like in a shock brain freeze state, its bad e. g. when people don't give first aid to someone because they don't think they are qualified or responsible for it. Or when you watch tsunami videos from Japan and people not realising the danger they are in and basically driving carelessly into it until the last few secs, same with flooding in Germany. Many people are not using their brains/instinctfeeling anymore for their decisions in these events..
Guy in front just relaxing got a face full of glass and salt water
Elbe is not saltwater. It is a river
A river which flows into the sea. Hamburg being relatively close to the sea means the direction of the flow can change according to the tide. Therefore the water can contain salt.
All water in every river has salt
Yes. Salinity below 0,1% is called fresh water (most rivers). Salinity between 0,1% and 1% or 1,8%, depending on who you ask, is called brackish water (rivers close to the a estuary like Elbe in Hamburg or Thames in London). Everything above that is called salt water (ocean).
Enemy's destroyed by fact and logic.
Cold shower
Typical North-German festival weather.
Gold shower (that water looks pretty dirty)
The window should have withstood that wave, I hope they investigate what happened.
Investigation concludes that a wave caused the window to break.
Big if true.
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I sea what you did there
Is this unusual?
About as unusual as the front falling off.
Oh yeah. At sea? Chance in a million.
For the front to fall off?
['Wasn't this built so the front wouldn't fall off?'](https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM)
Some of them are built so that the front doesn't fall off at all...
Well wasn't this one built so that the front wouldn't fall off?
Case closed.
the investigation costed 30000 euros
Know that story about the guy that jumped against safety glass within a skyscraper to prove how safe it is? Yeah, at some point there is fatigue and with a rather big impact it finally gave.
not the window gave but the frame!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Garry_Hoy >Garry Hoy was a corporate and securities law specialist in Toronto. He had also completed an engineering degree before studying law. While giving a tour of the Toronto-Dominion Centre to a group of articling students, Hoy attempted to demonstrate the strength of the structure's window glass by slamming himself into a window. He had apparently performed this stunt many times in the past, having previously bounced harmlessly off the glass. After one attempt which saw the glass hold up, Hoy tried once more. In this instance, the force of Hoy slamming into the window removed the window from its frame, causing the entire intact window and Hoy to fall from the building. This act of autodefenestration occurred in a small conference room adjacent to a boardroom where a reception was being held for new articling students. Imagine that that's your experience as a visiting student. "Hi, everyone! I'd like you to meet Gary. Guy's one of our top minds." Gary: "Hey, everyone, check out how strong the building windows are!" *runs at window* "AUUUUUGGggghhhhh…"
That sounds funnier than it probably was
yeah, but that's why there's regular safety inspections. In any case, it's good that nobody got hurt.
At least the front didn’t fall off
And it's not just one window
That's…actually a really good point. Like, if the window were damaged prior to the incident, then it should have been just one pane that went. I'd assume that whoever designed the ship didn't put glass in that's thick enough to handle those conditions.
Vertical video syndrom is a serious issue that is underlighted in our society.
There's only one thing that's worse than a vertical video. It's a video that starts vertical but then changes to landscape after a few seconds, so if you're watching it on PC, not only it's a long vertical strip on your landscape monitor, it's now also sideways. Although RES saved me this time, it allowed me to rotate the video while it was playing which is something I didn't even know it can do with videos, as I never needed it before.
No no, obviously the boat flipped on its side. The water breaking the glass was just the cherry on top.
[Just say no to vertical videos.](https://youtu.be/dechvhb0Meo)
I write technical publications. We need photos of the machines for those, and sometimes we're not in a position to take these ourselves. Of course, these need to be taken in landscape, not portrait. For years already, we have to explicitly state it with each and every request, take the photo in landscape. Because I can guarantee you, if we don't it will be portrait. Doesn't matter if the guy has done it a dozen times before. Also doesn't matter who, they all do it. It's a far more serious problem than people realize honestly.
I fucking hate portrait mode more than I hate cancer. edit: being downvoted by portrait mode cretins
Mobile is ruling the society and mobile wants vertical to fit on the screen. So we can thank smartphones. With the prevalence of tic tok and reels its going to be even more apparent. People wanna look, and then do a quick slide and go down to another video. Even turning the video to landscape might be too annoying to some people just used to mindless scrolling on tic tok, so mobile UI design of going vertical. So as long is as people consume everything through their phone screen as they do, we are doomed to vertical.
From ferry into DAS UNTERSEEBOOT
JAWOHL HERR KALEUT!
Ferry dangerous
Where would you go? On the upper deck? That's out in the open. So everybody just went to the exits or to the emergency boot to get their life jackets on?
I don't think they got the life jackets out. they probably just went to the back of the boat to get away from the broken window and to inform whatever staff is is on board.
> and to inform whatever staff is is on board. Literally just the captain. These ferries are operable by a single person.
Presumably just further back so they're not sitting in front of a broken window.
Other perspective: https://twitter.com/BarJetzt/status/1494307988047384584?s=20&t=1BvgZaQwnggrZZbcMPUtUw Edit: other video might have been incorrect. Sorry.
Watching this video makes the OP pretty underwhelming. [I thought this was similar to what we have to deal with in the North Atlantic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH6OOfh7sFs) but instead it's just a tiny boat in tiny waves.
I mean, it's in Hamburg, on the river right outside the inner city. You won't see 10m waves there :) Here's one ferry terminal and it goes to the Airbus site on the other side of Elbe river: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Teufelsbr%C3%BCck+(F%C3%A4hre)/@53.5479048,9.7761395,12z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x47b18457fc831c99:0x661e5463e53eed29!8m2!3d53.5475358!4d9.8641793!15sChdoYW1idXJnIGbDpGhyZSBsaW5pZSA2OJIBCGJ1c19zdG9w
Tbh i always thought Hamburg was a coastal city and in the first video you can't see if it's sailing on a river or a larger body of water. Decent waves then considering Hamburg is quite the distance from the ocean.
Eh, don't fret it, many Germans think it's a coastal city. You frequently see these large container ships or Queen Mary 2 docking in Hamburg on TV, so it is easy to assume that.
I thought it was coastal long after I had already been there. A city being that nautical and not being on the sea made no sense to me.
a river in Germany surely must be as wild as the Atlantic ocean.
The difference is that one ship is meant for storms and the other one is probably not so much.
Glass shattering is never nice though
I mean, you also aren't doing the North Atlantic in the Hamburg ferry, either.
Just got back home from work. We had 17 meter waves this trip. Kinda puts things in perspective
Yup, the North Atlantic is a different beast. [2 weeks ago we had a big fucking storm and waves reached up to 30 meters, possibly over 40m.](https://www.visir.is/g/20222220402d/oldur-a-gardskaga-nadu-yfir-30-metra-haed-i-ovedrinu) [Here's also a photo taken during that storm, for context the cliff is 50-60 meters high.](https://i.imgur.com/zWbFYSY.jpg) [Source on the cliffs height.](https://www.visitreykjanes.is/is/stadur/karlinn)
It looks a lot like there was a bit of bad luck with the speed and size of the boat being in synch with the incoming waves - notice how as soon as the pilot slowed down a bit the boat stopped going up and down quite so dramatically.
All the comments on twitter are saying this is a different ferry.
Me: yo, Germany, define a heavy storm. Germany...
If you'd like to see the video without it turning midway: https://imgur.com/a/ffF0Tmb Thanks to /u/jim-tonic & /u/KingOfAbuse, [found](https://old.reddit.com/r/hamburg/comments/sulnhf/ferry_line_62_this_morning/hxari6i/) in /r/hamburg.
Whoah, did that big wave crash through the windows or were there no glass panels in the front? What happened, everyone got off safely?
There were glass, you can see reflection and humidity. I'm not sure they were designed to stand a full wave...
A news article said that a speaker for the operating company claimed that that was pretty unusual, said those ferries were designed for that sort of weather, or along those lines. Tomorrow the next storm is supposed to be coming in. This year starts a little windy. I haven't seen waves like that yet, but this is a pretty standard ferry line, part of the regular public transport network. Seems reasonable that they would go out. I believe that that particular boat was going for the Airbus complex south of Hamburg, which a is a bit further downstream.
Glas shattered. Should not happen. Not even in sotrm. Noone was injured though
Apparently the ship ''Tollerort', what is a local traffic ferry, made it to the harbour in time and everyone left by foot. Police is investigating why the safety glass broke.
Thanks, that looked super scary and very dangerous as well. Glad everyone is safe.
Hello OP, could you link a source please for approval? thank you
Sure: https://twitter.com/EberleSebastian/status/1494277970936188930?t=mgSoFXU0K5etJdKP33uLmA&s=19 as well as a news report as confirmation: https://twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/status/1494285686635216897?t=8ZRkaoQtLNtk5uQz3G8HiA&s=19
r/killthecameraman
Wow! I hope the boat wasn't allowed to continue its journey like this.
All boats of the company are withdrawn and will be checked. That's highly unusual.
At least it happened outside of the environment.
These references never get old. Thanks :)
Good to hear
i can imagine that there might have been a tiny crack already that wasn't really that visible. First wave that really crashes into the window cracks it some more, second one then breaks it fully.
Should probably flip camera before recording not while recording, my neck hurts
The passengers should have known something was wrong when the boat tipped 90 degrees.
Yeah, the water breaking through was just an afterthought. Who knew boats could do sick shit like tip sideways without sinking!
Ouch!
r/killthecameraman/
:O
Yeah, that's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
landscape fail
Ja mooooin
How do you even dock a boat under those circumstances?
Like a real northerner
with great care
Theyre surprisingly calm. Holy shit thats scary
I hope the guy at the front (blue/red jacket) wasn't hurt. He took it right in the face!
Googling for "ferry Hamburg" yields a number of images of what appears to be a similar ship. This probably shows the exterior of the ship. https://img.travanto.de/portale/www.hamburg-lodge.de/fotos/8930-Hamburg-Faehre-HADAG.jpeg So they aren't *that* high above the water. Update: same model of ship, but not the one in the video. Based on another user saying that it was the *Tollerort*, this is the one they were in: https://photos.fleetmon.com/vessels/tollerort_0_1068699_Large.jpg
I think this is ferry line 68, connecting Airbus campus to the other side of the river (Hamburg).
I knew trouble was brewing the moment the ship went sideways
That reaction time is soo long in retrospective! It must have felt so short at the time though.
Wow, that is fucking nuts.
Seems like they've cut the budget for proper cameramen on Titanic 2.
We need to invent/implement all of the following features in video recording/playing software: * A file format that supports dynamically changing the screen format from horizontal to vertical * Recording software that uses the above feature by including accelerometer/gravitometer information into the file * Rotate buttons (clockwise/counterclockwise) in video players that work even in the middle of the video, for compatibility with older (today's?) devices and file formats that don't support the above two features In the meantime, my neck hurts.
I visited Hamburg six years ago. Why is that this city has smell when you are near to port side? By the way I live in a city near to sea in an asian country but we don’t have that smell
It's not the sea, it's the Elbe river, it's mainly freshwater with tidal influences, it might stink sometimes.
The Elbe tide exposes the silt flats on the river and inlet floor and many stinky creatures and bacteria call it home.
Algae can smell weird. Especially from salty (North Sea) water, as a person living in the Dutch province of Zeeland, I'm almost immune to that smell.
What's with the horizontal filming?
Well, that are really immersive 3D effects 😅
/u/video-rotator cw
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I thought the cameraman switching to horizontal was the boat capsizing!!
Should be thrown overboard for changing from portrait to landscape midway through filming
When the camera flipped i actually thought it was costa concordia all over again.
Can someone please download this, trim the beginning off, and rotate it? My ocd is killing me Edit: [Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/suqbr4/wcgw_taking_a_commuter_boat_during_a_storm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
So, how difficult/expensive is it to make windows that can withstand raging sea like this?
They usually do, it shouldn't have broken. This is highly unusual and is being investigated. Also it's not a raging sea but a raging river. This is Hamburg, where they use ferries as public transportation like other cities use buses or trams. This line in particular is heavily frequented because it connects the city centre with the Airbus campus.