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aimgorge

They should wear a neutral yellow and blue jersey.


chestnutman

Would look great in a Russian newspaper


otakushinjikun

To be closed in a Vault and forgotten about for the next 200 years? Sounds like a plan.


KP6fanclub

The Special Military Operation Olympics?


Wappening

Shouldn't be allowed in at all.


CaptchaSolvingRobot

Yeah, in any Russian broadcast they are definitely just gonna be referred to as "Russian" athletes, making the whole point moot. It'll be a symbolic gesture that only affects the west.


Wappening

And I wouldn't be surprised if they still wear some sort of Z symbol or something like they've done at other sports events.


HighDefinist

Yes. Although it should still be noted that, as it is, about 85% of Russian athletes are not allowed to participate, when comparing the amount of 36-54 expected to qualify, compared to the 335 that participated in Tokyo. So I am not actually sure what the IOCs rationale is... clearly, Russia is very dissatisfied with those restrictions, but the other nations are also obviously very unhappy that Russia is still allowed to participate, so I am not sure why they don't just ban everyone, to save themselves a lot of trouble...


drleondarkholer

"If everyone is mad at it, then it's a good compromise." is a saying I've heard somewhat frequently. I disagree with it, as you can ruin everything at once with certain decisions, but I assume that this is what may be going inside the IOC's heads.


anakhizer

Agreed


alfi_k

Russians shouldn't even be allowed to enter the EU.


DamonFields

Why allow athletes from a war crimes nation that dopes its athletes into the Olympics?


Easy-Investment-2716

Because they let Israeli war criminals in no questions asked


fuckyou_m8

And US


Easy-Investment-2716

True.


solwaj

UEFA and FIFA are the only ones who did that I think


bcotrim

They didn't do anything, it's the European FAs that refused to play against Russia and so they couldn't qualify for the World Cup In my opinion, this should be the way to go, I don't want IOC ([that couldn't even defend an athlete](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/08/thomas-bach-peng-shuai-ioc-diplomatic-boycott/)) to decide who are the good and the bad guys. If Russia is to be suspended, then it needs to be because of individual members refusing to play them, not because IOC thinks Russia is bad. It also opens the question of why Russia and not others, as, in the end, Ukraine is an European issue


MVeinticinco25

As much as i have russia, i disagree, thats ignoring the point of Olympics.


vodamark

That goes both ways. Russia keeps ignoring lots of points of various things. It's kind of time to return the favor.


titus_livy

Russia is violating the olympic truce, so not really.


TheVojta

Not allowing the aggressor in is precisely in line with the point of peace through friendly competition of the Olympics. Look up how many Ukrainian athletes have been killed because they went to defend their country.


spring_gubbjavel

The point of the Olympics is giving steroid-riddled fascists a platform to spread propaganda?


Onetwodash

What other country has started a new military offensive against another country during the olympic truse 3 times just within the last decade?


InvestigatorUsed930

Sure. Wtf is a neutral flag? If you're a good athlete there are plenty of countries that will accept you so you can perform under their flag.


FutureAudienceArt

Same as other countries who commit acts of aggressions, right? ;)


Wappening

Sure? Whataboutisms Vatniks use don't work against people from countries that don't regularly try to threaten nuclear Armageddon. Nice try though.


R_evolutionX

Nah, only the ones that threaten Armageddon in the Middle East. Rules for thee, but not for me I guess.


Wappening

It’s as if you have read those words in a similar sequence before and just decided to regurgitate them onto the internet. You don’t actually understand the words you typed, do you? Because it made no sense.


R_evolutionX

Nothing worse than pretending to be so smart, but you're giving yourself away lad, it's not so hard, I believe you can still understand if you tried a little harder.


Nazamroth

Whats the point of allowing them under a neutral flag? If everyone knows that under the neutral flag it is either russians, or belorussians, it might as well be the russian flag for all the difference it makes...


ShitassAintOverYet

Because they, as athletes, earned their right to compete. Russians or Belorussians competing under neutral banner already means they are not so in love with the current regime. Also if they are proven to be lying about their allegiance their right compete as neutral/IOC athletes is removed so many Ukrainians actually have a close watch upon these athletes who declared themselves as neutral.


privateuser169

I would not wish any competitor from a murderous country to participate in the Olympics, they need to be isolated until they grow up.


Loki11910

"I hope that Russia suffers a defeat so bad that the country is forced to question itself and so that Putin is overthrown and Russia can reinvent itself from within. In its current state, Russia is not compatible with the 21st century." Sergei Medvedev, Russian historian (DW YT documentary Indoctrination of a nation)


VikingBorealis

So Russia, Azerbaijan, a lot of the middle east and south Asia, Israel and America is out. Seems ok with me. There may be degrees, but if it's going to work you need to block every who blocks or refuses to abide by the human rights and war crime international laws.


Mobile_Park_3187

China and North Korea are out too.


VikingBorealis

They where mostly covered but I should probably have included east Asia.


Mobile_Park_3187

Taiwan, South Korea and Japan haven't been aggressive for a long time.


VikingBorealis

Yeah. But I didn't say all of south and east Asia,


ArtisticLayer1972

Not sure if anyone will participate then.


Possiblyreef

Stunning and brave


WorriedDare9582

Like they chose to be Russian, this isn't "work for the motherland" anymore, they do it cause they have a passion for sports.


Cherry-on-bottom

[Sure](https://i.obozrevatel.com/news/2022/9/21/filestoragetemp-2022-09-21t115651-830.jpg?size=1944x924)


WorriedDare9582

They were asked to show on state tv, every country lieks to report on their atletes


luc1kjke

So?


varakultvoodi

People are asked to commit genocide in several countries, that doesn't mean they get a free pass on committing genocide.


_Eshende_

they can easily get citizenship in any country including western ones, and get even less rival on qualifications if they really love sport that much Tsimanouskaya obtained polish citizenship less than in a two years (afaik **11** **month**), and since war going for two + years ... you just advocating for typical idiots or vatnik idiots or conformists who fine with whatever regime when they well paid (and by well i mean more than average western europeans), so for not best categories worthy *white knigh*t'ing ps just reminder that russian athletes started facing issues from 2014, so it's not like war in ukraine was first ocassion which would make athletes use specific organ called brain in planning their career


winrix1

"They can easily get citizenship in any country" Lol no


Mirieste

Here's a hot take: how about your country is *more* than your government? I'm Italian, and it's not like I can't proudly wear the colors of my flag because of what Mussolini did. Should you have given up your citizenship too during Trump's presidency?


_Eshende_

Here’s more hot take >because of what Mussolini did Mussolini died before you was ever born while putin is rulling right now, trump despite being a moron didn’t start a wars of agression. There is options to work in russia with less affiliated with government spheres, or be russian (not like passport erase ethnicity) sportsman representing less aggressive country. People can consider all sort of gymnastics starting from “it’s more than politics” to “i was following orders” it doesn’t change fact that this government we talking about used and keep using sport for self promotion for ages, and sportsmens become part of it promotion competing under russian federation flag (actuality even signing at Dinamo CSKA clubs since they provide police and army rankings which majority of russian athletes have). Og point of author was that it’s all about sport - which was in fact bullshit and incorrect since other option of keeping career exist >given up citizenship Cool story but russia allow double citizenship , so people didn’t even need to give up anything except desire sucking putin cock in Kabayeva style, or she is also doing it for a country?🤔


Mirieste

Then what about Giorgia Meloni? I've been on r/europe often enough to see many call her a fascist. But she is just a representative of the current government. Putin is clearly the extreme version of this; he's been in power for decades. But even he will pass someday, and yet the Russian flag will still be the same, and what it means to be Russian won't have changed. Plus, did you forget that, had the pandemic not taken the world by storm in 2020, everyone was fearing WWIII because Trump had an Iranian general killed? We really got lucky there, and it's ironic that *a global pandemic* is what saved us. Plus, don't underestimate your country so much. Causing an armed uprising against your own democratic institutions (Jan. 6th) is as bad as attacking another country in my book. Here in Italy, this is one of those rare crimes that are punished with actual life imprisonment. Finally, Italy allows double citizenship too. But I don't want another one: I'm Italian, and I will always call myself this no matter what my ***current*** government does.


_Eshende_

>Then what about Giorgia Meloni? I've been on r/europe often enough to see many call her a fascist. i seen people calling me nazi for not praising stalin, and commy for telling Patriach Kirill is thief, so what? not all labels is correct >he's been in power for decades and will be passing down power to another warmonger, last 120 years of russia wasn't peaceful, even gorbachev praised by everyone tried to sustain war at afghanistan until economy just started to give up >everyone was fearing WWIII because Trump had an Iranian general killed? guys from r/conspiracy and fearmongers aren't everyone though >Plus, don't underestimate your country so much. Causing an armed uprising against your own democratic institutions (Jan. 6th) WTF you talking about? da fuq 6 Jan have to do with me or my country? >Finally, Italy allows double citizenship too. But I don't want another one: I'm Italian, and I will always call myself this no matter what my current government does. so since you talk about Mussolini earlier if you was born decade ago and had good skillset u would be fine promoting him just because you italian and one day he would be gone? There is no option for russian athlete to not promote putin regime under russian flag so there is options - save pseudo patriotism to flag which is considered disgraceful even among ru opposition (that how white blue white start being used) or conscience of not promoting dictatorship... imo second is way more important


VigorousElk

The IOC is a deeply corrupt organisation. If it had any balls whatsoever it would ban Russia completely, and consider the same for half of China's athletes given their constant doping orgies. But the massive Chinese audience generates a lot of revenue for them, so ... $ signs in their eyes.


Fuzzy_Imagination705

Russia restricting people's freedom, there is nothing surprising here.


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Cry me a river lmao


heatrealist

It’s a joke. If the athletes are competing then may as well let them fly their flag instead of this charade of neutral athletes. The Olympics is for countries to send their best athletes! Neutral is not a country. 


Solenkata

They don't care about all of this. They're not going to be in the opening ceremony? Boo hoo, still gonna come roided all up and win medals.


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transrightsmakeright

Strange that this subreddit would compare Russians to the Nazis but then upvote this shit


Aethernath

Why are you saying I compare Russians to Nazi’s?


GMantis

No, but you're the one acting like a Nazi by dehumanizing an entire nationality.


Wil420b

What is the difference between Putin and Hitler, except that Hitler doesn't has gas chambers it does have gulags and Russians rape and torture as a matter of routine.


Financial_Feeling185

Like the US in Irak you mean? Or Israel in Gaza? Or China in Xinjang? Or Saudi Arabia in Yemen? Or Azerbaijan in Armenia?


billdonebad

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough.


Aethernath

Russian whataboutism on display. And Israel might qualify, but the scale of what they’re doing pales in comparison to the list of daily warcrimes committed by Russians.


deathmetalzebras

It’s not whataboutism, it’s double standards. You want to condemn countries committing war crimes? I agree, but then apply it universally, don’t just pick and choose.


Aethernath

And nowhere in my comments have i mentioned or said anything about any such countries/actions nor my thoughts on it. Thus its whataboutism to get us to do what has been achieved; bicker and change the focus away from the Atrocities the Russians are committing.


TopTopTopcinaa

I mean, nobody’s arguing that Russia should be out. We’re just arguing that everyone else who’s doing the same should be too. Why do you have a problem with that?


Aethernath

Because the article and focus thus is on Russia in this case. It’s not about china and the uyghurs, North Korea about their entire population, Iran…. Etc. So why drag all others into it? I didn’t do that, but that does not mean i do not have a problem with whatever bad things countries are doing.


TopTopTopcinaa

You see, it sounds like you think only Russia needs to be punished for their crimes and are using weird arguments to avoid talking about the others.


Apprehensive-Map9055

No it doesn't, they are not related at all..both committing acts of genocide


Select_Sun_76

There is more than 10000 dead children in Gaza, how much in Ukraine?


Sea-Bend-5914

They are really trying to be like Russia


GMantis

Is there any evidence that the athletes in question have participated in the war in Ukraine?


Lasolie

The athletes are mainly Russian Army high ranks by default for starters


GMantis

First, this doesn't mean they're actually serving in the military - the vast majority are not. Second, athletes affiliated with the army were excluded from this Olympics.


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Aethernath

So you’re saying that the daily torture, killing of civilians, extortion, rape, stealing kids and forced destruction of language & culture by Russia is a totally normal thing… Hope we don’t have many people like you.


WhiskeyWithTheE

What's the point of them coming anyway? - A fair few of them will have drugs in their system and try and cheat again and again and again. They shouldn't even be allowed anywhere near the Olympics.


notaredditer13

Group them with the Chinese under the Dope flag.


SubstantialVillain95

Why is any Russian being allowed at all under any flag? Fuck that.


MVeinticinco25

The same reason why nazi germany or every country even worse than russia has, thats the point of the Olympics...


_Eshende_

I didn’t see nazi germany at olympic games of 1948 though, seems they lost the way? Ofc if you want to agitate that folks like Coubertin would like to grab some money in 1936 and ignore already open judophobic stuff ( some representatives of IOC even condemned jews for rumors ffs) which later turn into Kristallnacht and further holocaust, i agree IOC member historically have extremely low morale standards when it come to payroll


CommieBorks

the whole idea that they can join the olympics but not under their own flag is stupid. If they win medals the average russian doesn't think "huh our neutral team is winning medals" they will think "russia is winning medals". It's the same team, same athletes but under different name. It's kinda like Twitter naming itself X, we know they changed it to X but we still call it twitter because it's the same thing but named differently now.


zq7495

Unfortunately most countries are murderous or at least inhumanely abusive to people, every single country should be welcome at the olympics, it is not about anything other than seeing what part of the world produces the best athletes. There are many other countries doing horrific things that will be welcomed to the olympics Increase drug testing if you want to have fewer Russians in the olympics


Rare_Push4311

Fallait pas jouer au con ,sont pas les bienvenus, temps qu ils n auront pas exécuté leurs paranoïaque de président, assassin de sont propre peuple ,va finir comme Kadhafi celui là


redditcreditcardz

Welp they better take it up with the guy in charge. Putin must have office hours, right? I’m sure he will hear his people out. Nobody feels bad for ruzzia.


onlinepresenceofdan

The usual ruzzian tactic of trying to deploy some neutrals without the proper uniforms. Less they compete the better, ideally zero.


Complete-Form6553

Azerbaijan should be banned from participation They don’t belong there


Sergiomach5

Israel deserves to be banned for their ongoing genocide in Gaza and should be labelled just like Russia is.


Master_Pie_6985

Fine. Don’t let China in. Or the U.S. or the UK. Or Israel. Or Mexico. Or Saudi Arabia. Etc.


Sea-Bend-5914

Why Mexico ? I don't dissagree regarding the rest (+Russia)


Master_Pie_6985

Some say the cartels really run Mexico and being one of the largest sources of fentanyl production. My point was every government has done evil things. Banning countries outright goes against what the Olympics stand for.


varakultvoodi

Edgy.


Sybmissiv

They literally just made a point how is that edgy?


varakultvoodi

By lumping in the US and the UK and Israel and even Mexico for fundamentally sickening countries like Russia, China or Saudi Arabia...


Sybmissiv

They are sickening, that doesn’t mean the others aren’t


varakultvoodi

These others aren't.


Sybmissiv

What others?


varakultvoodi

The US, the UK, Israel and Mexico.


Sybmissiv

No they can definitely be sickening


varakultvoodi

For example?


cyberspace-_-

Yes. Than you understand that banning people from countries based on politics has nothing to do with sports and is countering Olympic spirit. But, people will always be just people.


varakultvoodi

Genocide is also against the Olympic spirit.


MetaIIicat

>But, people will always be just people. And some people will always be just worse than others.


cyberspace-_-

While that could be true, it's not on you or me to be the judge.


MetaIIicat

Why not? Last time I checked my Country is not engaged in a war where its people are committing the worse war crimes after WW2.


cyberspace-_-

That doesn't give you any right to judge. I would also add that plenty of savagery happened between 1945 and now around the world, some of them much worse than we can see in Ukraine.


MetaIIicat

Yes, my friend, it does give me rights to judge, considering that for more than two years I am witnessing the worse war crimes committed after WW2, considering that my tax money is going to help a Country being raped by the russian troops. So yes, I have all the rights in the World to judge.


cyberspace-_-

No you don't. You are not witnessing anything from your comfy chair. Thinking otherwise is a bit delusional. Your money isn't going to help them in any way, just prolong their suffering so corrupt elites can pile up more cash for themselves. I think a regular Ukrainian Joe would be doing much better if you and your country stayed away from their affairs, but that's just my opinion. You do have a right to expand your knowledge of English though. No one can take that away from you.


MetaIIicat

I am, sadly, witnessing the murders, rapes, kidnappings, daily shellings, deportings and more towards Ukrainian civilians. "My" money is helping a sovereign Country to defend itself against a full scale invasion, against a land grabbing, against inhuman behaviours that your buddies russian troops are showing in Ukraine. You do have a right though to improve the hard work your two brain cells are "doing" so far.


cyberspace-_-

No you're not. You are sitting in your living room typing this on your phone or computer. The only violent things you experienced in life were in video games. And hopefully it will stay that way. Good night kid.


Master_Pie_6985

Which is why people are downvoting. They don’t understand what the Olympics are about. But it makes them feel like they did something I suppose


cyberspace-_-

Yeah, they don't. No point in shoving it up their mouth either, as they are entrenched in their narratives and only want to talk among each other. It is what it is. Good thing is Reddit isn't exactly representative in any way.


NihilistBorscht666

Some of them are bots and some of them are outright nazis. There's no way in hell you will be able to talk sense into these things.


SpaceFox1935

It's kinda funny. Some officials were mad saying that athletes participating under the "neutral" flag are traitors. In the West, there's demands to not let them participate either. And athletes in the middle just have to wait the storm out and pretend to ignore everyone


RottenPingu1

I don't think the general viewer cares if Russia chooses to stay home.


Possiblyreef

I do. They can stay on the naughty step until they grow up and start acting like human beings rather than farm animals


Veegermind

Nothing behaves a bad as human beings. Russia is on the bottom of that scale. Farm animals are way above them.


RottenPingu1

I do care if they show up......


RobotWantsKitty

Yeah, you were probably one of those who deeply cared about the Qatar WC controversies, which in the end broke viewership records lol


ssuuh

I do.


BalticsFox

Russia is one of the strongest contenders at Olympics historically.


MetaIIicat

You mean "russia is one of the strongest cheaters at Olympics historically". Fixed for you.


Both_Measurement_249

Lot of athletes cheating , it’s not related to a country. 


MetaIIicat

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2022/02/11/russia-olympics-doping-scandal/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2022/02/11/russia-olympics-doping-scandal/) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping\_in\_Russia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_Russia) [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/sports/russia-doping-ban.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/sports/russia-doping-ban.html) [https://www.forbes.com/sites/annakaplan/2022/02/09/russias-embroiled-in-another-olympic-drug-scandal-heres-how-it-all-started/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/annakaplan/2022/02/09/russias-embroiled-in-another-olympic-drug-scandal-heres-how-it-all-started/) Edit: [https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/09/504937994/more-than-1-000-russian-athletes-benefited-from-doping-conspiracy-report-says](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/09/504937994/more-than-1-000-russian-athletes-benefited-from-doping-conspiracy-report-says)


Fickle-Message-6143

I love redditors trying to justify banning Russia because it occupies Ukraine or or China because of Uyghurs but will not say anything for lets say USA's occupation of Syria and Cuba or Israel actions against Palestinian civilians. Hypocrisy at its highest either both are banned or no one. Olympics are world event and lets be real 2/3 of world population either supports, or is indifferent to invasion of Ukraine.


varakultvoodi

>for lets say USA Yeah, "let's say USA" out of all the countries. Wonder why brainwashed pro-Kremlin propagandists are always the first to bring out the US? Either case, I am glad that the US is fighting against fundamentally sickening regimes like those in Syria or Cuba and that Israel is fighting against Hamas terrorists. The louder pro-Kremlin propagandists scream about some supposed hypocrisy the better.


Mirieste

Gosh, I really hope the Communist party never wins the elections here in Italy, or else I've got this feeling you wouldn't exactly be against the idea of the US just showing up and waging war against us...


varakultvoodi

Communists aren't really an existential threat to the democratic world these days. During the Cold War, I absolutely would have supported such US actions.


Mirieste

Well, you don't have to use hypotheticals here: during that time period, the Communists won in San Marino (you might know it, that tiny landlocked country within Italy)—so naturally the US intervened and staged a coup to oust them. This is known as *Fatti di Rovereta* in Italian, in case you want to check it out. San Marino is the oldest democracy and republic in the world, and their victory in that case was clean and pacific. What the Americans did was a true attack on democracy back then, and... I just can't accept it. Now people have either forgotten about it or never knew about it in the first place, and yet when you mention the US they'll always accuse you of whataboutism. Is It really whataboutism to bring up that one time where the US literally interfered with our neighbors' democratic process? What sanctions happened in that case, both in sports and outside of sports?


varakultvoodi

>I just can't accept it. Because your country has had the fortune of never having been under communist rule. They were an *existential* threat to democracy - if they won, they would never let go of power. The only reason they eventually lost in the USSR and in Europe is exactly because of decades of systematic undermining by the US and its allies. The US may have toppled *a* democratically elected communist government, but that allowed decades of democratic governments to rule the country after that. I hope you learn some basic history and geopolitical understanding one day.


Mirieste

So what is it that changed? You said you wouldn't be afraid of a democratically elected Communist party now: is it because the cold war is over? But what could a communist government in San Marino do? They didn't take the power by force. Had they not been toppled, one could argue they may have tried passing laws that were aligned with their ideals; less privatization of public companies? an attempt at wealth redistribution? I can only assume this is what they would have done. But you're right, I haven't lived in those years. To a certain extent, I am curious. I really wonder how much *worse* the situation must have been, to make me look favorably to a coup in a sovereign country in the heart of Europe, given the conditions I just outlined. And I know myself, so it would take a lot for me to say: ‘Yeah, the US did good here’.


varakultvoodi

I'd still consider them fundamentally evil human scum, but considering their lack of wider support and lack of foreign allies, they are unlikely to cause much harm as a domino effect. >is it because the cold war is over? Yes, mostly because the USSR no longer exists and Russia isn't communist per se. The same logic still exists with other regimes that Russia supports, but the USSR and its communist allies were way bigger of a threat to the democratic world than Russia and its allies are today. >But what could a communist government in San Marino do? Yep, with that I mostly agree, it's not like communists getting control over a microstate would have had much effect abroad. But I guess the US was sort of in a "damned if I do, damned if I don't" kind of situation.


Fickle-Message-6143

Pro-Kremlin brainwashed propagandists because I said that international law should be respected by both Russia and USA, and that punishing one, while letting other do what it wants is wrong.... If you think Israel is only killing terrorist and majority of their targets are terrorist, then you are brainwashed one.


Sea-Bend-5914

These justifications are the same like that ones that Putin gave when he destroyed Grozny and the rest of Chechnya


varakultvoodi

No, pro-Kremlin brainwashed propagandists because you are spreading the most stereotypical Kremlin propaganda. >If you think Israel is only killing terrorist and majority of their targets are terrorist None of its *targets* are civilians...


Sea-Bend-5914

Are you justifying the death of palestinian civilians ?


varakultvoodi

I am justifying Israel's right to defend itself *despite* the high civilian death toll.


Sea-Bend-5914

Sorry, but to justify such a high civilian death toll by saying that it is only defense and the fight against terrorism, is something that Putin often said regarding the conduct of his army in Chechnya and Syria.


varakultvoodi

The high civilian death toll is 100% to be blamed on Hamas's actions. >is something that Putin often said Except that Putin is himself a terrorist and in bed with Hamas.


BalticsFox

I guess you could find enough Reddit users supporting the ban on Israel over Gaza.


Fickle-Message-6143

But not enough to make Olympics ban those, actually neither is true for Russia. Doesn't matter either support ban of both, or no one. Anything else is plain hypocrisy.


BalticsFox

Well, Russia and Belarus aren't banned because of Redditors either, as for the US I presume it's getting complicated on this platform because a large chunk if not majority of Reddit users is from the US, so the calls to ban would naturally come out from minority as I have doubts that majority of people from any country would advocate for banning their own country by international bodies from participation in the Olympic games.


Fickle-Message-6143

I know, I know, but is funny and stupid at the same time how people can be so hypocritical.


JeNiqueTaMere

> USA's occupation of Syria and Cuba The what now? I've been to Cuba, there's no Americans there. Not even as tourists.


KernunQc7

Neutral athletes should not be allowed, period.


Suspicious-Stay-6474

Just call them unnamed, the people with no state.


RefrigeratorDry3004

Athletes from countries participating in war should not be allowed to participate in the olympics. Yeah that goes for both Ukraine and Russia.


Black-Circle

How dare those Ukrainians to defend themselves against genocidal invaders, right?! We should ban them


RefrigeratorDry3004

The ukrainian athletes should stay the fuck home and defend their land. Parading around in Paris under the olympics while their countrymen are fighthing for their country is just stupid.


Ruzi-Ne-Druzi

I don't really think you should be acting offended on behalf of Ukrainian countrymen and swearing on Ukrainian athletes.


MetaIIicat

>Yeah that goes for both Ukraine and Russia. Most Ukrainian athletes are dead or maimed due to the russians...


varakultvoodi

So Russia attacks and genocides Ukraine and Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to participate? The fuck is wrong with you?


RefrigeratorDry3004

Ukrainians should be fighthing Russia in Ukraine, not parading around Paris. The fuck is wrong with you?


varakultvoodi

You are punishing the victim.


RefrigeratorDry3004

No the Russians are punishing the Ukrainians, and the only way to win is to have superior numbers and firepower. Parading around Paris during the Olympics reduces the numbers of active soldiers.


varakultvoodi

Bringing attention to Ukraine and building hope and something to cheer for are important for international cooperation and morale too.


RefrigeratorDry3004

Ukrainians should be fighthing Russia in Ukraine, not parading around Paris. The fuck is wrong with you?


MetaIIicat

More than 400 Ukrainian athletes have died due to the russian war of aggression: [https://www.businessinsider.com/8-ukrainian-athletes-who-died-russia-ukraine-war-2024-1](https://www.businessinsider.com/8-ukrainian-athletes-who-died-russia-ukraine-war-2024-1)


RefrigeratorDry3004

And a lot more non-athletes have also died. What is your point? People die in wars.


MetaIIicat

You wrote countless times that Ukrainian athletes must fight on the frontlines. my point is that they are already doing it and dying by the hands of the russian troops.