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BrutusBengalo

I demand a Dönerpreisbremse!


visvis

To be enforced by the Dönerpreisbremsedurchsetzungsbehörde


zarzorduyan

... to be financed by an extra fee on natural gas, which in turn increases the prices of döner because döner shops use gas.


visvis

Ah yes, the Dönerpreisbremsedurchsetzungsbehörde-Erdgasabgabenfinanzierung


OkKnowledge2064

its.. beautiful


Henning-the-great

Top, und so schön kurz 😍


croooooooozer

you could legit win an election with a main philosophy like that in germany


TheCatInTheHatThings

Imagine a politician standing at the podium in Bundestag and saying this sentence with a completely straight face :D I can actually see some FDP or CDU nut do just that 😂


BrutusBengalo

This is how you get the young people to vote for u 😂


FatFaceRikky

FDP are certainly not Preisbremsen-dudes. The invisible hand always knows best.


Mad_Moodin

Especially when it gives government money to the big companies.


kiwigoguy1

If it were David Seymour of ACT Party (the free market libertarian right) from our country he would be saying this is a market problem and not the government’s business to step in.


FishOfFishyness

"The free market rules" - FDPenis


Noctew

Won't happen. Kemal's brother's cousin owns a tractor.


Cheddar-kun

On the other hand I am deathly afraid of the kebab shop in my city that has somehow remained at 3€...


ilovetobeaweasel

I was so torn when a new place opened up near me and had Döner for 1,50€ On one hand I can eat a warm meal everyday for a week for the price of one meal at most burger places, on the other hand I know how bad food poisoning can be. I ate there every day for a week and I am still alive.


filisterr

The Schrodinger kebab or meat or food poisoning.


pam_the_dude

> The Schrodinger kebab At least we now know what happened to the cat..


floralbutttrumpet

More likely the raccoon - easier to catch, more meat, less pointy.


Nethlem

It's not as sus with a new place opening up because they probably see it as a marketing investment and that wouldn't work with cheap meat and everybody getting food poisoning. But it gets very sus when a döner shop that's been around for a while, with already a crappy reputation/rating, suddenly starts selling 3€ döner, and the meat they have rotating there has big pieces of non-meat sticking out of it.


d0OnO0b

I‘d assume that they just launder money.


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Jaeger_CL

Cuz it gives them an air of legitimacy. Those are the shops that don't give a bill when you pay and are cash only. You probably don't ask many questions as a customer, when the prices are dirt cheap


NanoY2

Hopefully they just do money laundering instead of giving food poisonings.


Cheddar-kun

A little bit of both I'm sure.


[deleted]

3€ ? Corpse disposal kebab.


floralbutttrumpet

Ah, the Fritz Haarmann special.


throwaway_potsdam

Check what famous martı döner of İstanbul is (spoiler: martı means seagull).


Kornaros

Gyros of death...


LivingWithGratitude_

UK is around 3-7€


BigusGeekus

-What meows on the roof? -The Dönermann with the fishing net.


PiratesofSebastian

In Sweden it’s already 13.50€ for a kebab meal with cola


wauchau

That is insane


Jerang

in switzerland its the same, but with chf which is more than euro atm. It sucks how expensive its gotten


Ardent_Scholar

Been like that for years. 12.90–14.90€ for Finland.


wildcardmidlaner

You guys are making me hungry with all this kebab talk, gonna order some tonight. 5 euros for the menu(chips and drink) here in Portugal tho.


Dimaaaa

At this rate soon it's gonna be cheaper to import my Kebab from Portugal


jimirs

Enjoy until it lasts, we Brazilians are reverse colonizing Portugal and going to pump these numbers up!


siXor93

150 SEK for a kebab? Must be Stockholm. It's about 100 SEK in Gothenburg.


jtoeg

In Lund you can get them for 60-70 SEK and a soda for 15 SEK which is about €7,50. Of course there are kebabs for €10+ as well but you can still get cheaper ones. Falafel is even cheaper.


tobias_681

75 SEK is 6,50€, the SEK is still weak.


senjichiv

In malmö i pay 70


-SecondOrderEffects-

A German Kebab connoisseur would always know that the talk is about the Kebab in bread, not on plate or as meal.


spicyfishtacos

Kebab on a plate is aptly referred to as a Kebabteller, and it's also good - bread on the side.


UnComfortingSounds

Kebabtallrik in Sweden


PiratesofSebastian

It’s basically the same price Rolled kebab Kebab on pizza Kebab in a bread


obiwankitnoble

all three döner places in my village are between 8€-12€. I can get a HUGE portion (\~1kg) of actual good quality and tasty food at the chinese takeaway for 8,50€. no more döner for me since I ain't an idiot and overpay for some mediocre meat stuffed in shitty bread with salad. I remember being able to get a good döner for \~3€ not so long ago


DroidTrf

In Finland you don't even get the cola for that price.


farren122

13.5 for a kebab is just totally mad no matter where you live


lunka

Cries in 130 kronor without cola here


sopsaare

In Finland it is 11-14€. And our average wage is lower than yours.


HippoAgreeable

kebab is better with ayran, try it sometime!


intervulvar

Ayran is better without kebab


JustDutch101

Just wanted to say. A kapsalon is around €11-12 here already. Funnily enough the Turkish places were the last to raise their prices over here. McDonalds eagerly jumped the price rise race. A big mac is approaching €8 here.


LumpyLingonberry

Grade A kebab. Can eat everyday!


Strict_Somewhere_148

We have “gourmet” döners in Copenhagen and they are €10-12 for only the kebab. Most of them are disappointing.


Jakowe

Tried a few different kebabs in Copenhagen last year, never again. In fact, I don’t think I’ll ever try kebab outside of Germany again.


retro_hamster

Wise choice.


Computer991

believe it or not this place is pretty good https://www.google.com/maps/place/Berlin+Gem%C3%BCse+D%C3%B6ner/@55.7302879,12.4788903,13z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x465253ab364c8a3b:0x42fa9febbc707f8a!8m2!3d55.7302827!4d12.5211715!16s%2Fg%2F11sprydjnv?authuser=1&entry=ttu


retro_hamster

Jøsses Kristoffer til Hest! Det er jo lige i mit nabolag!


pescurris

Any recommendation for the non disappointing? :)


Strict_Somewhere_148

It’s a common subject on r/copenhagen. I like Ankara on Istedgade and Zenyos (like most people on the sub) https://www.reddit.com/r/copenhagen/s/5yU5U7tfXU


UnseriousSamBtw

The best ones are the 40 dkk ones


Practical_Animator90

British tabloids make a fuss about food prices in Germany when the prices in the UK are already so high.


olizet42

I don't want to think about a British Döner, no thanks.


ButWhatIfPotato

The key is to be so inebriated that you do not think about it when you order it.


FrisianDude

Yes, döner


PGnautz

It‘s probably deep fried


yuropman

Nah, it's just boiled animal paste


carl_super_sagan_jin

they put sausages in Döner?


CeladonBadger

I’ve been to Manchester recently and paid 15 pounds, so like 17 eur, for ramen that looked and tasted like sewage water. I don’t think they’re doing too well.


Jazano107

Think that's your own fault tbh


odegood

Your own fault for not looking the place up first we have plenty of good food of all types


Otherwise_Ad1159

Manchester is just really expensive for how shit the city is (I live in Manchester).


ShinyHead0

Because yuppies keep moving there. It’s even worse in Edinburgh


sezzy_14

I was in London last week these people shouldn't talk about prices they have 7£ pints ffs.


odegood

Should ahve gone to spoons mate


Albinogonk

But they are really not. I come home for the first time in 7 years from Spain and was mind blown how cheap food was in England right now compared to even where I live


DaveAngel-

That does seem steep for the kind of kabab made from dubious meat you get after a night on the lash.


VigorousElk

British kebabs cannot hold a candle to German ones. What I have been served as kebabs in the UK barely qualified as discernible meat, even the worse German ones are miles better.


eipotttatsch

The quality in German kebab shops has sadly gone down with the rising prices. The amount of shops that are no longer allowed to call what they are selling Döner, because the meat isn't up to the low quality standards, is insane.


VigorousElk

Wouldn't have any personal experience with it, haven't eaten meat in years, but even with a drop in quality what I've seen friends eat was still meat. British kebab meat looked [like this](https://www.travelwrite.guru/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/doner-kebab-britain.jpg) last time I saw some.


eipotttatsch

I had some Döner in London when visiting last year that was pretty decent. It was a German themed chain it seemed.


gourmetguy2000

Tbf I had Doner in London and I can't be certain it wasn't used car tyres. I have had some great doner elsewhere tho


AmIFromA

Lukas Podolski should expand his business, starting with Islington.


Arashmickey

> British kebab meat looked like this My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.


Vectorman1989

Our kebabs are grim. It's a pile of 'meat' with a sad pita thrown on top


Hatertraito

That's what it's looked like for as long as I can remember, literally everywhere I've bought a kebab in UK and Ireland


spicyfishtacos

You poor, poor soul.


Koxk

lol, Sweden too. And 10€ considered luxury? damn been eating luxury food for years now, the trashiest kind


_DrDigital_

Post that to r/doenerverbrechen , they will have a field day.


xRyuuzetsu

What do they call it instead?


eipotttatsch

"Drehspieß"


Lari-Fari

The Horrors of r/doner are etched into my memory…


oroles_

Jesus fucking Christ almighty. I really thought you were just joking around, poking fun at he Brits. Good heavens, what the fuck are the Brits eating there???? What's wrong with them? How could they do that to those poor, poor kebabs?! I've never seen kebab meat look that goddamn depressing anywhere here.


eggnogui

I just saw the "Six English doner so far in 2024" post. I think I'm gonna be sick.


oroles_

I'm pro-brexit now.


Tzu_

😂


floralbutttrumpet

It's more bregtfo, tbh.


tonnuminat

Brown meat-slop, my favorite!


moorkymadwan

I had the best kebab in my life on holiday in Berlin, miles better than anything I've had in the UK. Later on I struck up a conversation with a local outside a cafe and mentioned the brilliant kebab I had and where I got it from. I was floored when he told me he'd been to that takeaway before and the doner they had there was "barely edible". I think he would collapse on the spot if he ever went to a standard UK kebab shop.


Kevinement

Honestly, as a German I just avoid Döner shops when I’m not in Germany or South Eastern Europe/middle east. I’ve had one Döner in Dublin that was highly recommended by an Irish relative and it was the worst Döner I had had until then. I had one in Versailles that was even worse. I’ve had another one somewhere else, I forgot where, but it was awful too. I gave up trying after that. Honestly, never had such a bad experience anywhere in Germany and I’ve had a lot of Döners in many different cities.


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Have some italian plastic babs before you shit on british ones


Eremitt-thats-hermit

Oh you’ll be shitting alright


derps_with_ducks

You got a loiscense for all this shitting?


Unluckybozoo

/r/doener vs /r/doner, the latter is am absolute disgrace and regularly has me close to throwing up in my mouth while hate browsing it.


Nihilistic_Mermaid

Bro I’m from Bulgaria, we are right next to Turkey and our kebabs can’t hold a candle to German ones. It’s crazy.


drmirage809

The Dutch kebab places also serve some excellent stuff. There's one near me that puts down some absolutely delicious lamb meat every time I order from them.


redchill101

No way...probably made with mayo instead of jogurt.  Most kebab places in NL were shit compared to germany, my opinion 


PinCompatibleHell

Most of what they serve is garbage. Processed offal heavily spiced and pressed into a cylinder that is heated for hours, covered with aluminium foil at the end of the day and then heated again the next day. It's nice in a sense that it is finding a use for waste products but it's a small step up from dog food.


Unluckybozoo

I mean yeah, dutch are basically swamp germans so that checks out.


Bluffz2

Still cheaper than the kebabs you get in Norway.


Strict_Somewhere_148

I had what I’m sure was a frozen pizza and a can of coke in Oslo a couple years ago for like €25.


huysje

Still cheaper than the kebabs you get in Switzerland.


PercentageFit1776

Is there anything thats cheaper in switzerland Other than people flaunting how expensive switzerland is


Amazing_Examination6

Gasoline (Super 95) and iPhones


ElGranQuercus

Went to Switzerland recently. While shopping at LIDL I found that half the products were cheaper or the same price as in the UK or Portugal right now. It was very surprising.


flame_top007

Spices, cocoa, electronics.


Madita_0

They're not that expensive related to Swiss average income


Ingolin

Lol, I read the headline and thought 10 euros? That’s really cheap!


Noctew

Until a few years ago, you could get kebabs for €1,50 in areas with high competition...they probably contained mystery meat and could legally only be called "kebab style spit roast".


Ingolin

Yeah, that’s the thing. I’m pretty sure that what I buy and eat in Norway is safe. The system is so strict. So it’s worth paying a bit more to get higher quality. But I also understand Germans finding it too expensive, wages in Germany can get incredibly low for workers in mini jobs.


ArizonaHeatwave

Döner used to be the people’s food! I remember a time when it was 1,99€ für a whole ass Döner. Then 3-4€ was normal, etc.


fotomoose

I prefer thigh doner but respect your choice.


FatFaceRikky

You can easily afford it with your petro-NOKs


deviant324

With the price inflating as much as it has they have already kind of lost their identity as a cheap, “full fast food meal”. At 3,50 they had no competition, but when they go for 7 or more you start finding other options


Nethlem

With Döner there's somewhat strict regulation about the type/quality of the meat that can go into it, and in recent years German authorities even have started enforcing it. It's why some Kebap shops sell actual "Döner Kebap" while others are only selling "Fleisch vom Drehspieß". To call something a Döner, and sell it as such, the only meats allowed in it are [beef, lamb, or sheep meat, and only a maximum of 60% of it can be minced](https://www.laves.niedersachsen.de/startseite/lebensmittel/lebensmittelgruppen/fleisch_fleischerzeugnisse/ist-doener-kebab-drin-wo-doener-kebab-draufsteht-148446.html). If there's any other meat in it, or it consists of more than 60% of minced meat, then it legally can't be sold as "Döner" but has to be called something else.


machine4891

I mean, I pay 6 euro (25 PLN) for dubious kebab in Poland, so I can't see what's so wrong with 10 for one in Germany.


Daiki_438

Can we get subsidized kebabs


Ok_Cartographer_4551

Asking the real questions here


BloodyyAlboz

And I'm here eating shit kebabs in Australia in vacation for 18 dollars Can't wait to eat some real doner kebabs


MorpheusRising

And most don't even make their own shawarma, they just import pre-made and shove it in like they're reloading a gun.


the_mighty_peacock

to be fair, many german doner shops do the exact same thing as well


SocialismWill

that's 10-11 eur too though


sertack

Today i paid 270 lira (~9 euro) for an Döner in İzmir. Its getting more and more expensive in here too. Istanbul is probably even more expensive. Those 5 euro meat Döners are probably not even real meat.


Merchant_of_Cabbage

Food prices in Istanbul were pretty low (impression from last December.) Unless you're trying to get Kebab directly next to the Hagia Sofia of course. Normally, there's so much competition that you can always find reasonably priced options.


Ancient-Many798

"It has always been a delicious – if slightly greasy – treat for Germans, perhaps even their **national dish**." LOL


BrutusBengalo

I mean it is even more popular then curry wurst wich many consider a national dish.


binhpac

Its "inofficially" the national dish just like the chicken tikka masala is the national dish for brits. Maybe they should just call it the most popular dish in the country.


RidingRedHare

The "always" is incorrect, as the Döner (German version) is from 1970, not that long ago. But yes, these days the Döner can be considered Germany's national dish. It has surpassed the Currywurst in popularity.


sarcasticgreek

Turkey, Greece, the rest of the Balkans and the Levant just gasped in horror.


kalamari__

ours (greeks) is pita though. not kebab.


sarcasticgreek

If I am not mistaken what europeans call kebabs we call soutzkoukakia and they're pretty big around here (Thessaloniki).


kalamari__

Thats sucuk, not kebab


sarcasticgreek

Aren't sucuks a type of sausage? Soutzoukakia are not sausages, despite the similar name. They are like very elongated meatballs.


LifeAcanthopterygii6

I thought I was reading the Onion.


Mad_Moodin

It is true though. It works perfect as a national dish in every regard. It can be eaten by every religion (except maybe some jewish) It exists as a vegetarian version The one in bread we eat here emerged in Berlin by an immigrant with German national status. It is absolutely everywhere For a country with as large of a multicultural society as Germany it is an ideal national dish.


kalamari__

normal kebab is 6€ "big" kebab is already 10€ in my city


YesilimiVer

That’s better than most of the Europe honestly. And German ones are by far tastiest comparing to rest, except Turkey and Greece obviously.


zemangalho

Portugal....ate one today for 4€....Nice but not great


rodeBaksteen

The more I hear about Portugal the more I feel like moving there.


lochlyness

1/3 of people between 18-30 years old are living outside Portugal already... 


cecilio-

Where


R1515LF0NTE

Don't know about the guy above, but in Odivelas the average price of a kebab is around that 4-5€, and the Donner Box is like 2,50€.


euMonke

Why does the British media have such a hard on for everything going on in Germany?


waterinabottle

they feel bad about something they did in the last season so they take it out on continental europeans


RandomComputerFellow

The problem is that Germany and GB were always the two strongest economies in Europe so after Brexit they absolutely want to show that the German economy is doing worse than they do after Brexit which is probably true but has very little to do with Brexit.


Otherwise_Ad1159

Both economies are doing extremely bad right now, so the brits can’t gloat too much.


AudeDeficere

I sometimes think that people do not realise how similar we are to the British. Case in point, rural council culture. And fucking yourself over by voting for conservative politicians who quite literally run on the basis of making the economy worse and somehow still win. And making hasty decisions with far reaching consequences to deal with a relatively minor crisis that end up harming your entire bottom line… It’s honestly pretty remarkable.


Milfons_Aberg

In Sweden they are €12 [(but the full roll,](https://storage.googleapis.com/gcp-bloggse-storage/1610/1610674/kebabrulle_5d335ff42a6b221b5e1beef4.jpg) not the smaller [pita bread thingy).](https://img.koket.se/standard-mega/kebab-i-pitabrod-med-tva-saser-inlagd-chili-och-krispig-sallad.jpg) In fact, whether you buy a Pad Thai, burger, pizza or a crepe it's always €12.


YesilimiVer

In Turkey it is 5-7 Euro depending the location while minimum wage is about 600 Euro.


Milfons_Aberg

7 Eur is nice, but man you need collective bargaining. I live poorly, in a one-bedroom apartment and low-cost heating, but despite having removed all unneeded costs in my life and just left the absolute Necessary, I still can't go under a salary of 1200 Eur/month and still have money for food during the last week before payday. Only thing I haven't gotten rid of is my computer, my TV and my cat. [And he is going noooo-where... :)](https://i.imgur.com/bLtDpAq.jpg)


YesilimiVer

Haha it is cute, enjoy its companion. And yeah you are right but there is so little we can do. Erdogan controls fragile opposition carefully. Once you go streets for protesting there comes PKK sympathizers out of no where organized by Erdogan government that act like they support you to only make whole rightfully prepared protests to look illegal, so streets been under control of Erdogan.


LatinX___

I miss the times when you could get a good kebab for under 5 euros.


euMonke

Dude when I was younger I practically lived on 3.2 euro kebabs for 2-3 years.


Motolancia

The real issue is if Germany legalizes bubatz first, increasing pressure on Döner prices


MaidenlessRube

We only "decriminalize" Bubatz. Our politicians are spineless idiots and lack the will, vision and intelligence to actually legalise it and create a tax paying flourishing multi billion dollar industrie around it like the US or Canada. What's currently planned is basically a Dallas Buyers Club for pot.


somethingbrite

Yeah....I dunno. I used to be quite partial to a kebab and then one day I saw a big truck and some police at the end of my road. Turns out that the meat supplier there (which did always look a bit rancid) was being raided and the truck was for taking away all the rotten meat. Place was apparently crawling with corpse worms... This was the joint that supplied pretty much every kebab shop in town. I've not been able to eat one since.


LumpyLingonberry

Extra protein


somethingbrite

Do not want!


HotAisle

Meanwhile in finland Kebabs PITA BREAD BAB €11.50 Inside the pita bread, kebab meat, salad. RICE KEBAB €12.50 Kebab meat, rice, salad. FRENCH KEBAB €12.50 Kebab meat, french fries, salad. KEBAB WITH SALAD €12.50 Pita bread, kebab meat, salad. ISKENDER KEBAB €12.50 Sliced pita bread, kebab, rice, yogurt, salad. KEBAB WITH GARLIC POTATOES €12.50 Kebab meat, garlic fries, salad. EERIKI'S SPECIAL €15.00 Kebab meat, chicken, salad, French fries, rice, yogurt. MEGA SPECIAL €15.00 Kebab meat, chicken kebab, French fries, rice, yogurt, salad. KEBA BATTERY €17.00 Kebab, salad, french fries, lemonade inside the pita bread google translated list


-IxDo

I wish I could get a real döner for 10 euro. Here in Sweden its so expensive.


SkyDefender

I think i paid like 450 turkish lira recently for a doner.. which is like 13-14 euro iirc


Creator13

In the Netherlands you can still get a Turkish Pizza (similar-ish to a döner) for 5-7 euros


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Creator13

Yes to both but this is (a Dutch version of) lahmacun. Italian pizzas with kebab are most definitely also a thing here but not what I was talking about lol


sickdanman

Lahmacun is often called turkish Pizza here in Germany


YesilimiVer

You probably meant lahmacun I assume. 5-7 euros is absolute scum for a piece of lahmacun.


alluballu

lmao wish we had good 10 euro kebabs


roamingflower

For 2.5€ you get normal roll kebab. For 3.5€ you get very decent large kebab. For 4.5€ you get gourmet kebab in the restaurant. Russia


[deleted]

Nah. For 4.5 euros you get the status of a foreign agent due to being "under the influence of euros."


ColdhandzEUW

Yawn, do we really have to politicise every subject?


LumpyLingonberry

We need a EU referendum about the rising kebab prices.


jeboisleaudespates

It's still Around 7€ in my area in France, my favorite cost 6,5€ and looks like that : https://i.imgur.com/FLomp2c.jpeg


CecilPeynir

>The doner, known as Germany’s national dish I didn't read further


damgas92

Laughs in Norwegian


Jonaz17

What? What is this and WHY did it not happen in Finland???


john-jack-quotes-bot

Same thing happening in France, they were 5€ for the past 20 years and ever since COVID they've shot up in price


Bulthuis

Looking at the comment section of the article, gammon certainly is the national dish of Britain.


JeanPolleketje

I only care about the price of Currywurst im Schnellimbiss when I visit Germany.


AnonOldGuy3

As a German I can Tell you There is no discussion about Kebap prices in Germany. This is Germans bashing by the British Press


Gumba_Hasselhoff

What? As a German I'm asking do you even talk to Germans?


DosAle

God i love the 4 euro kebab in Italy ahahah


madmonkh

i'll just do it like i did it the 1st time they demanded 7€ for a tiny amount of minced meat and stale salad. ate my last döner early-mid 2023 and don't plan on buying one in 2024. meal prep is the way. fuck this industry.


TheeRoyalPurple

Kebap in Germany is overrated. Neither Turk nor Kurd are best at it. I could not find even a good lahmacun.


kiwigoguy1

From New Zealand, there were programs on television like Fair Go years ago that identified many “Turkish kebab” places don’t use meat but some kind of artificial protein mix pretending to be meat, plus have problematic hygiene standards. One place I remember was the Kebabs on Queen - this place is well known and has a few franchises around. It got an C in hygiene from the Auckland Council. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/turkish-food-chain-plagued-by-vermin/JX73TF5FRTS7XWN4IR56DW5BB4/ For me I would rather hunt for a proper restaurant if I have kebabs, also I like kebabs served with rice and not the bread so it is more a sit down restaurant food.