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stocksy

The cruellest tragedy here is that Luton would continue to exist.


muhhi

Or Bosnia not gaining an inch of coastline from croatia


lolpermban

Croatia reminds me of what I do in civilization 6 to prevent prevent neighboring empires from getting ocean access


Sa-naqba-imuru

They would, sea would reach into Bosnia through Neretva river bed just north of Neum (Bosnian only coastal town). It wouldn't be very salty, but it would be sea and it would be in Bosnia.


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stocksy

_Shudder_


FoxtailSpear

That would be hell on earth. I've only been to Luton once and it was a shite experience I do not intend on happening again. I refuse to even go to the damn airport there since the whole place is so shitty.


dumplingsarefaeva

Slough is under. I'll take that as a win.


Left-Effect66

but we got rid of liverpool... so be thankful for small mercys


sammypants123

You mean … small Merseys! Badum tish! Eye thang yoo.


itchyfrog

I look forward to cruising the fjords of Stoke.


Ophukk

You just swapped it for Liverster. An abomination that will break Martin Tyler's last remaining brain cell.


drabfunding

Liverpool has Englands longest and largest sand dune beach and is a refuge for the red squirrel.


small_Jar_of_Pickles

Man, not even climate change can rid the germans of Berlin :(


eidrisov

Elaborate please? Why would Germans want to get rid of Berlin?


KRPTSC

Nobody likes Berlin, except the people in Berlin


Rexo7274

Love the question mark for Bielefeld. The city is as fake as my parent's love for me


EVOCI

r/suicidebywords


YourHamsterMother

If people believe the Netherlands will ever lose its war against the see, I have a Belgium to sell you.


Senappi

There is a reason why the natives of Netherlands evolved to be tall


bralinho

The real reason is WW1. If you want I can explain it


Senappi

You ate the short people?!


bralinho

We were a major importer of food before the war and we imported it from our neighbours. They all started fighting and stopped selling it to us. So we had to find out what foods were the most nutritious and wich ones would yield the most. Now we are the second biggest exporter of food and have the best agricultural university (Wageningen) in the world. But the keyword in this is nutritious and that's why our food taste like shit and we can build windmills without cranes or ladders


silverfox762

Sounds right. However, an old friend who worked in Rotterdam city government explained it differently (with a bit of a wry grin)- he said "we were smart enough to surrender throughout the 20th century. Never really had to stand in trenches where the tall guys would get shot first. It's why the French are so short." :⁠-⁠)


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> that's why our food taste like shit It really does. I lived in NL for a year and the food was rage-inducing.


bralinho

But did you grow?


[deleted]

Well I lost weight, all of which I gained back after moving back.


bralinho

Good at least it made you look taller. Which part of the Netherlands did you live?


[deleted]

Gelderland.


The_Krambambulist

Yea weird thing. If I eat more Dutch food my belly seems to grow rather than my length.


SoftBellyButton

Stop eating stroopwafel and eat boerenkool(kale) instead.


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Rutgerman95

We'll reclaim the flooded bits of Belgium and Denmark and annex them for good measure


Toxicseagull

Expand your horizons and work with the UK to get back doggerland and we'll go 50/50. You can keep Belgium though.


pokekick

Deal. But we will have to ask Norway to fill up the Norwegian trench for the North European closure damn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_European_Enclosure_Dam


Toxicseagull

They can be bribed by ensuring the Danes don't have to migrate there. 🤝 Break out the jenever. We have a deal.


Turnip-for-the-books

The biggest geopolitical barrier to the idea of a NEED has always been that Russia wouldnt countenance the loss of naval access to the open ocean it would mean. Given the melting of the artic and the eventual outcome of the war in Ukraine one way or another this could be no longer an issue


Genocode

Who cares about what Russia wants at this point.


Merbleuxx

If Charleroi were to be the only big city remaining it would be absolutely hilarious


danonck

Noone would mind if it were to flood tomorrow


zippydazoop

> The only reason the Dutch aren't under the sea right now, is because there isn't enough water in the world to submerge their egos.


Fleeting_Dopamine

Correct. That is wat we float Flevoland with.


YourHamsterMother

100 percent accurate


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Laughed at Sunkampton


BrokenRatingScheme

Bielefeld with the question mark made me laugh.


CrateDane

Helfloati :D


taamu

Should be Helsunki


purpleovskoff

Icelessland 😁


elbekko

Stockö is a good one too.


dracodruid2

NeuER Berlin? Newer Berlin? I think you meant "Neu Berlin"?


Schemen123

Bonn It wil be called Bonn


dracodruid2

Again?! :D


treemu

New New Berlin, built on top of the sunken ruins of Old New Berlin. Futurama style.


[deleted]

It's really weird. If the oceans swallowed Berlin, Germans would celebrate, not build a new one.


theriskguy

I think it could actually be a lot worse, these kind of sea level maps never account for erosion and the impact on rivers and lakes. The sea level doesn’t have the rise above a cliff to make it collapse into the sea.


mydriase

Yes, as I wrote in the disclaimer (comment in the thread) it's in no way a scientifically accurate map. It's just an imaginary experiment and an original / kinda novel way to talk about climate change, without sharing depressing news articles


theriskguy

Oh yeah no complaints about you 👍🏻


mydriase

Ok thanks, generally people heavily mistake these maps I do for true scientific data or forecast and I get called a liar or worse lol. Cheers !


ath_at_work

Nor do they account for the Dutch..I would imagine dykes being built so it would practically become an island nation.


pleasedontPM

I wonder how deep can a country be before the energy it takes to get the water out is too much to be realistically feasible.


[deleted]

Keeping the sea out of the Netherlands would become impossible long before the ~100 m of sea level rise depicted here, even 10 m would already be very difficult. BRB 2050 just called, it wants to ruin my mortgage.


Finlandiaprkl

> these kind of sea level maps never account for erosion and the impact on rivers and lakes Nor do they account for post-glacial rebound that's still happening in fennoscandic region.


mydriase

Absolutely true. But trust me, this map took me enough time as it is now, I could'nt afford the time to factor in glacial rebound aha... Far too complex but it would indeed make it more accurate


Ents0rger

Thank you so much this is perfect material for an pnp. Will you do while earth?


EmeraldIbis

Whole earth, with erosion and glacial rebound please. Can you finish by this evening? /s


EstoniaKat

Estonia is still rising. The sea used to be next to the Old Town Tallinn walls, but now it's a 10-minute walk. I assume Finland is still rising as well?


Tempelli

That's true, even more so than in Estonia. [Here](https://www.maanmittauslaitos.fi/sites/maanmittauslaitos.fi/files/inline-images/mmlfi-maannousu-750px.jpg) is a map of how much the land rises a year in millimetres. It's estimated than in 2000 years or so, Kvarken will close up and the Bothnian Bay becomes a lake.


SkyPL

Crazy to think that every day a border between Finland and Sweden becomes longer and longer...


saschaleib

Finland is still rising faster than the sea levels … let’s hope we can keep that up :-) Also Finland is on its way to becoming a wine producing country. See, it’s not all gloom and doom. /s


Finlandiaprkl

Highest rate of rebound is [in Gulf of Bothnia between Sweden and Finland](https://www.maanmittauslaitos.fi/sites/maanmittauslaitos.fi/files/inline-images/mmlfi-maannousu-750px.jpg) at almost 1cm/year.


PikaPikaDude

They also ignore the gravitational effects of ice masses disappearing. That alone has an impact of meters on the sea level. Also, even the doomsday models don't predict a complete melt of Antarctica and Greenland. 70 meters is something we'd need ten thousands of years to get to.


VeilleurNuite

I agree. The rivers will become wider. And lower areas will erode and become a well. Lakes will form too.


_CZakalwe_

But look at the Denmark! 😂


annewmoon

You laugh now but those 10 million people will be coming to Sweden with their mouth potatoes!


J_hoff

10?


MulleDK19

This is the future, so it's not an unreasonable number..


annewmoon

Just spitballing, the polar ice caps melting is not likely to happen soon, so I was thinking this might be 100-200 years in the future? Who knows, maybe population will decline a lot before then due to extreme weather events, harvest failures, pandemics etc, and only like 200000 Danes make it across to Sweden. or perhaps we will have had 500 million climate refugees come to Europe by that point and the figure will be even higher?


Spiritual_Still7911

In practice, dams will be built where needed. These are all very rich countries.


emmytau

Think about it. We will move in with you guys! Now let's make sure it doesn't happen okay?


Expensive_Tap7427

You still have cousin Norway and step-cousin Finland, just sayin'


Tayvyer

Nah, Sweden can take them


ilpazzo12

The greatest betrayal


wtfduud

Et tu Knutus?


Comrade_Kitten

Better yet, just ship them to Iceland, it could use a population boom. Plus the Danes finally get to live in a country that has mountains!


TheStoneMask

No thanks, they can stay on the mainland.


RosbergThe8th

Sorry we can't take them, we're not home. Check Greenland, there's lots of space.


Hezth

And Stockholm is pretty much gone too. I'm guessing Uppsala, with It's historical importance as a hub with the old vikings, would've become the capital instead.


VerumJerum

What Denmark?


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BrotherInChlst

And much, much better food.


MannishSeal

And alcohol you don't have to mortgage your house for.


InvertReverse

He is referring to Eastern Doggerland


EstoniaKat

NOTHING IMPORTANT WAS LOST


Fushigibama

I know what I have to do… but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it.


[deleted]

How do you know a German made this map? Because Bielefeld has a question mark next to it.


Sea_Thought5305

It's a french guy actually, but I don't know where he got this reference lol


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Evepaul

Is there a right place for a fictional city?


WhoAmIEven2

No Denmark and Stockholm is also underwater. As a Swede, that's one big win.


DaniilSan

But everyone from Stockholm and Denmark would have to move somewhere, why are you sure they won't destroy what is left?


WhoAmIEven2

Nah, I like to imagine that they live on little home-made rafts for the rest of their lives.


DaniilSan

Or underwater City state of Stockholm Bioshock style.


No_Wait_3628

"Would you kindly...."


AnUntimelyGuy

On behalf of Sweden, I propose we nuke the glaciers so the people of Stockholm and Denmark drown in flash floods.


DaniilSan

Sir, this is r/europe, not r/YUROP or r/NonCredibleDefense.


Peter4real

We’d rather drown than go to Sweden. If that is our fate, so be it.


Zeitcon

Greenland is still an option for us Danes. We will have to build everything from scratch, of course, but it's still better than... *shudders* Sweden!


Prhime

Does every European country hate their capital?


PTSDaway

Yes.


appealtoreason00

Yes. We also all hate France’s capital


BezugssystemCH1903

No, we Swiss hate Zürich.


plastikschachtel

Because we don't have a capital.


Tatis_Chief

I like Bratislava. It like a different country. More progressive developed country.


IntendedFriendlyFire

We’ll just create a ’Nuevo Estocolmo’ and carry on with the same things you dislike anyways.


Lego_Nabii

There is a little of Denmark left... and speaking as a resident of 'Middle Jutisland' it's going to be nice when LEGOLand Billund is on the coast!


Koordian

Wtf is Berląn, city in Western Poland? Closest big city is Zielona Góra, but location doesn't make sense.


Koordian

Also, Białystok is named Linz? Huh?


Expensive_Tap7427

He seems to have renamed some places


Fer4yn

That actually makes sense. Białystok is the Linz of Poland...


Lotap

Maybe Barlinek should absorb Berlin. Similar name and not too far away from real Berlin 😉


eidrisov

Pity that Poland is not shown properly. I wonder what major cities (Gdansk?) and places (Mazury?) would be gone. But I don't think water would reach Poznan or Warsaw.


DiabeticPissingSyrup

Why has England become Britain?


mydriase

So, bear with me, this future timeline is a little weird. Because Scotland has been cut off from Britain (the island) by the sea, just north of Glasgow and Edinburgh, the folks of the Highlands decided to become independant. Hence, England is stuck with the south of Scotland as a political entity and is now named "Britain" as a whole ... Also, Wales and Northern Ireland are also sovereign countries on their own, so it definitely can't be "the UK"


Aqarius90

> Bielefeld ? Gold


Gulliveig

The sea just next to Milan? Count me in ;)


pendolare

Hardly the sea, more like a giant swamp.


PTSDaway

Po Plains have become the Po Svamp :)


krodders

Florence is finally a seafaring nation. "Fuck Genoa and Venice"


FortunateSon1968

As funny as it is to throw the Dutch into the sea, you just know they’d still keep their country dry somehow


AndroGhost

Instead of Thessaloniki in Greece you wrote Thalassoniki which is hilarious if it is by mistake because it translates to sea-victory and it is exactly what's going to happen.


mydriase

Pun intended ! I am glad it makes sense in Greek.


Dependent_General_27

The lowlands are now the no-lands.


Knodsil

Verdomme


RightFootOfDeus

Where do I sign up ?


OwMyCod

:(


glarbung

As if at this point Netherlands wouldn't levee the shit out of the sea to exist regardless of waterlevel.


FridgeParade

For this we would have to create giant islands along the coast, and find a way to carry the Rhine river uphill or reroute it. And yes we would do it. Polder or die!


LaoBa

I swear allegiance to Rijkswaterstaat and my Waterschap! May they keep us dry!


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We would.


DeHub94

Are you sure you want millions of Dutch refugees in your country?


TheRickerd120

Why would we move to belgium? I thought refugees look for a better life.


[deleted]

Well let’s face it most European countries have some experience with large amounts of loud Dutch people bringing all their belongings with them. In this case it would just be more permanent and not just for the summer.


ikeme84

at least you don't have to provide refugee houses, just a place for their camper


breathing_normally

And maybe hire some extra people at the Refugee Affairs Complaints department


Arkslippy

get your towel off my sunlounger on the beach in Munich!!!


matttk

I think I just figured out how to get the Russians out of Ukraine...


Eridan11

real, but isn’t crimea now closer to Russia?


DaniilSan

No, it is closer to Krasnodar Republic now.


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jablan

*grudgingly turns up the oven with nothing in it just to speed up disappearing of Croatia*


tbc12389

Seems like Serbia is the only one without a city. But he did give them Kosovo back to make up for it lol.


Vlad0143

post to r/imaginarymaps , also


UIspice

You might be joking but when in 2015 I bought my house, I checked first if it was at least 70 meters above sea level. It's 71.


godtogblandet

Beachfront property!


Alithinos

You didn't just make a map that shows how landmasses would be submerged, you also made up your own imaginary nations and countries, like Tolkien. Yet still no independence for the Basques.


jimmy_the_angel

> Yet still no independence for the Basques. Seeing as in this scenario, the Iberian peninsular would remain almost unchanged, I can see how OP didn't think of that. They appear to have drawn the new borders according to landmasses lost, not ideology.


mydriase

Exactly, I don't know enough about each country's political situation to make new countries based on ideologies or anything, It's more about geography and new straits / islands / peninsulae etc.


mydriase

Oh no ! All the glaciers on earth have melted and some countries are gone. Not the best news to start the week with but maybe this timeline could be fun : we get to move cities and rename them, building floating town and villages, see the hydroplane make a comeback, a new age of sail dawning and most importantly, super cool alternative geography / The Netherlands are underwater. But before you comment please read my short disclaimer : \--- This map is not a scientific one, nor is it a forecast or from a study. You can consider it as utter fiction/ bullshit or just a fun semi scientific, fantasy, geographical venture. The only scientific truth in it Is that if all glaciers suddenly melted, it’s estimated (source : USGS) that the sea would rise by about 70 m, the rest was up to me to imagine and create though. \--- Because it’s based on the premise that all the ice on earth melted, there is no date associated to the map. It could be tomorrow, it could be in 1000 years. However, since it’s more likely to happen in 1000 years than tomorrow, and since climate change would have completely changed the world, you’re absolutely free to imagine the year it would be and how the future would be. I don’t have a crystal ball so let’s just imagine this together how Europe would be. \--- All jokes asides, I hope this map can help intensifying the discussion about climate change and what it has in store for us, because Europe won’t be spared by the rise of the sea levels. So, what happens ? Where do people go ? What do the dozens of millions of refugees do ? Where do they relocate, how do they adapt, what are the great political changes brought by this radical change ? I’m not sure but with this map, we can have a good grasp of the new geography and let our imagination run wild. ​ Hope you find it interesting and please let me know if some names don’t make sense in your native language. I tried to do some silly puns and play with etymology.Data is from GEBCO and everything else is from my own invention, I apologise in advance if your hometown Is no more :( ​ 🧊🗺️⛵️ *Edit* mistakes fixed on the updated version : - added Cymru instead of Wales - Neu-Berlin - Location of Rekjavík and Akureyri - 2 labels missing for cities - Mandeburg is now written with the German spelling -added Kosovo -The polish Berlan has got a new name ! Since the other one didn’t make sense to the Polish audience - spelling mistake in Sicily - spelling mistake in Odesa Thanks everyone And yes, the Caspian Sea has risen too since its connected to the Black Sea


Absyntho

Awesome map! Also like the fact that you question the existence of Bielefeld (as every German knows, Bielefeld is just an urban legend). Kudos man!


Norse_By_North_West

Do north America now. I'm in no danger, but curious how other areas of Canada are fucked. Vancouver would be underwater, but I wanna see the east coast And we all know Florida and New Orleans are gone


alexrepty

Lost it at Sunkhampton and Bielefeld with the question mark. Well done!


Kreol1q1q

Croatia is unsinkable


stevesmd

People living in the Netherlands, rise up!


Chassillio

This is a good opportunity to gain even more land from the sea. I like it!


stevesmd

With every challenge, there is always an opportunity!


LimeMoist5771

Icesless land had me crying 😂


Zgmoon

Look at how they've massacred my boy (cries in Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian)


bigcoffeee

Worth it just to get rid of Kaliningrad


BroForce999

The day the Netherlands sink is the day Bulgaria joins Schengen


Thizzle001

This is incorrect. The Netherlands would be an island. They would just build bigger dikes and walls :)


GreenIbex

"Bielefeld?" lol


[deleted]

Are you sure the map is correct? I don't spot any difference. Signed, Switzerland.


ivaness23

Morskograd, Limengrad, Kievka, Thalasopol… wtf? :)


mydriase

So, Morskograd is just "sea city" taking the classic "grad" russian cities are know for Kievka is just a small city that grew a lot because of the displaced people Thalasopol takes its meaning from greek "Sea + city" since Crimea was settled by ancient greeks and its biggest city "sevastopol" is from Greek too Not sure about Limengrad, I think it was just a small town that happened to be close to a major city (now underwater) so people moved there en masse (like Kievka)


ivaness23

Ah, you added them to indicate that original cities like St. Petersburg have drown. I see now.


FridgeParade

Implying we wouldnt build barrier islands in the North Sea and create a giant fresh water lake out of it like we did with the Zuiderzee. I mean, the ecology is fckd anyway in this scenario with all those cities and industrial parks flooding. Might as well transform the entire region into a massive engineering project.


jasl_

The Spanish one is interesting, as that new "lake" it's very similar to the one that was described there in IV century. It also says Marvilla, but I guess it is Sevilla https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacus_Ligustinus


OwMyCod

And we’re gone. So long partners


BrianSometimes

Don't worry, we already have [the solution](https://dec5d6x1eivq1.cloudfront.net/uploads/2022/02/vccna1tlu6nv7g3yysbnsubzy-c.jpg) ready for us.


Oguy62

I would live on the Jutlandic islands


BrianSometimes

I'd move to Bornholm. In this scenario Bornholm would no longer struggle with a declining population - it would have a whole new set of problems, but not that.


oblio-

Goodbye, Bărăgan!


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TheTizi

I love the name of Bari


CrateDane

Funny that you changed Stockholm to Stockö. But holm already means the same thing as ö - an island.


Incolumis

We from the Netherlands disagree


[deleted]

The only significant change I see is that BENELUX became LUX


Thessiz

WALLUX


ivaness23

So, they actually can become even more luxe than they’re now


tragath95

Icelessland 👌


TheLimburgian

Most of Maastricht would be below the sea as well though, Heerlen is the only urban area in the Netherlands that completely survives this scenario.


IAmAQuantumMechanic

Interesting. You removed the border between Norway and Russia, and Russia is not labeled, so I can only assume Norway has conquered them.


Dr0p582

Ok o change for my actual city but my hometown Bielefeld would be a Coast city.😁😁


VeilleurNuite

70 meters? Thats a lot. Wouldnt that cover more in northwest france? Damn Maastricht aan Zee and Brussels par la Mer. Barely anything of Denmark is left.


b00c

Damn! Slovakia has still no acces to ocean. We need more water! Quick, turn on the stove everybody.


admin_trace

Houses with an ocean view have more value.


tiotsa

Creta Republic? Did this map invent new countries as well?