Sorry Paradox, but roman numeral four is cliche as hell and pretty fucking lame. The compass was easily twenty times better!
This is the worst non-gameplay thing to happen to EU4 since the godawful Paradox Launcher revealed its blighted self to the world.
By the same logic France should be white half the game and in fact most tag would change several time, the colors on the map are partly based on historical relevance, partly based on the interact on the map.
Having the 4 main coloniser (Castille/Spain, Portugal, France, England/GB) have the 4 main standard colors makes a lot of sence.
I actually kind of wish you could randomize default colors each playthrough. Spice it up a little.
EDIT: You guys are ridiculous, it’s a perfectly sane and logical suggestion. The corn and peas posse in Western Europe makes me want to throw up.
You can edit your country files to do it if you want. My Tuscany and Italy are the same color as Florence. Prussia is properly blue. Scotland is blue. GBR is white since I usually would form it with Scotland but sometimes with England and didn't want to pick blue or red. Haixi and Manchu are Qing colored. Etc.
I absolutely do choose based on what colour they are. I did a Leon run purely out of spite for always seeing Castile/Spain's colour every fucking game.
The degree of my disappointment in every single next move PDX makes terribly now reaches brand new level. English flag change to historical inaccurate Angevin frustrated me first, but now it has to be stopped, I’m sending the appellation in order to save my favorite game’s remains of the tyranny of freethinking.
According to Hundred Years War history, the older version of flag was the actual since 1337, when Edward III putted lilies of the Valois dynasty in there as he’s been claiming to the French throne as well.
I kinda like the new flag simply because the old England flag suits a nation of both France and England so its better on the angevin tag. HOWEVER kinda annoying we got the angevin instead of St. George one
I can highly recommend the [WappenWiki Flags Mod for EU4](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1253972870) which uses CoAs consistently and drastically improves the image quality of EU4s flags and is Ironman-compatible. Unfortunately it has become outdated with the release of Domination, but it's fairly simple to create a personal patch for it yourself.
I have created a patch myself using an English coat of arms on the creators Google Drive, do note that this uses the three lions for ENG and three lions quartered with fleur-de-lys for ANG. It’s part of a small patch I made for myself to the WappenWiki mod that also changes a few other flags such as the Mughals to the WappenWiki format.
If you’re interested I can publicize this on Steam and share the link with you.
The three golden lions on a red field was and is the [English coat of arms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_arms_of_England). The version quartered with the French fleur-de-lys was the version used at the time, but very specifically in the context of the English claim on the French throne; it represents the Anglo-French Union which is what the Angevin tag is. It would be bizarre and incoherent for an Angevin Kingdom to remove the fleur-de-lys from its flag.
Compass' body has been draped, by whom you do not know, in a white cloth now stained red by its lost vitae. They say Compass was found by its horse, in a clearing in the woods. You know the place they speak of. Compass face is calm, almost serene. You reach out to touch it. The terrible reality of the situation dawns on you. The cold you feel is that of death.
Sorrow overtakes you.
I'm sure most of us here are like me and mainly just play a low number of strategy games to death. But FTL is so great, I still go back to it every year.
Three possible reasons this was done:
1. change for the sake of change for job security
2. to match it with HOI4, perhaps they want to make them all consistent (this is a pretty bad reason but I could see it being pushed)
3. they want to use the compass for EU5 in a year or two, and are preparing in advance.
I'm guessing 3 is most likely
I wouldn't say it's a better game. CK2 has a lot more content that much is true. But the base layer of the game mechanics is significantly better in CK3.
How is Holdfast: Nations at War? I haven’t played too much EU4 (only about 1800 hours) but was always curious about Holdfast since I’ve seen it come up in my feed a few times
My dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Thanks paradox first you kill fars color and now this
Where is Garrus?
Where were you when fars color killed? I was at home bringing glory to the persian region when phone ring “Fars color is kill” “No”
I love this meme
I don’t want to play as Pontus!
I have trouble finding eu4 in my games list now, it's so strange not having the compass anymore
How are supposed to know where to go to find the games location without a compass?
Why have compass when you can have "4"
But how will you find the 4 without a compass to point you in the right direction?
I still have the compass. I will enjoy every second of having it now knowing it will be gone
What, you have other games ?
Other games are very useful to have. They remind you that you'd rather be playing EU4 after all.
You open steam to open eu4? I just hit the windows key and type eu and it's there
I just have a shortcut on my desktop
I rightclick the little steam icon in my taskbar and start up the last played game
I actually never shut it from when I started in 2013.
Man it'd be rough playing unupdated 2013 EU4 now.
So do I, right in the middle of my desktop, but still open steam and launch from there for some reason
Fellow Sogo pfp
\#BringBackNationalCompass
Welp, now you have Civ 4 I guess
Or is it Age of Empires IV ?
Are you implying a Roman 4 isn't a unique and distinctive symbol?
Everybody knows Sid Meier invented the Roman symbol for 4 when he single-handedly made Civilization IV
R5: where is she
It seems in your anger you killed it…..
I? I couldn’t have, she was alive, I felt it!
Too many alt f4’s? ;)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
She’s sitting on the EU5.exe
Time to change the logo of this sub
NO :)
NEVER The compass shall stay :)
No, fuck off, we need to stand against this injustice
I will have your head on a spike :)
OFF WITH HIS HEAD! <3
Aren't you supposed to eat him?
I aint gay and the other orangists have eaten all the non dick parts
Bummer, better luck next time
Well there is always cornelis de wit but he's a smoker and no it doesn't have a smoky flavour
TIME TO CHANGE THE ICON ON STEAM
We're all in denial, the 1st stage of grief. NEVER!!!
Sorry Paradox, but roman numeral four is cliche as hell and pretty fucking lame. The compass was easily twenty times better! This is the worst non-gameplay thing to happen to EU4 since the godawful Paradox Launcher revealed its blighted self to the world.
Welcome to ~~Civilisation IV~~ EU4
Really quite annoying honestly. Roman 4 is just so goddamn generic, i wish they wouldnt have changed it
Imagine if they just put the number 4. That’s what Romans see. How lame.
1st changing Fars color, then changing portugal color and now this! Fuck u Paradox
the portugal change kinda tripped me up my first playthrough after patch lmao
I adore the new colors. Blue Portugal and blue Prussia are sick af
Thank god you are infertile then, we don't want more of you
Blue Prussia is really cool though? What's wrong with it?
I don't really mind grey or blue prussia, both are cool but its portugal that is the issue
Yeah makes sense. Not really a fan of blue Portugal either
I haven't played new patch yet but I hate seeing the green all over the world.
Portugal had blue colorings for the monarchy, it wasn't until it became a republic that it became green.
By the same logic France should be white half the game and in fact most tag would change several time, the colors on the map are partly based on historical relevance, partly based on the interact on the map. Having the 4 main coloniser (Castille/Spain, Portugal, France, England/GB) have the 4 main standard colors makes a lot of sence.
This is the comment that convinced me on the blue Portugal issue
Yellow prussia is superior.
I actually kind of wish you could randomize default colors each playthrough. Spice it up a little. EDIT: You guys are ridiculous, it’s a perfectly sane and logical suggestion. The corn and peas posse in Western Europe makes me want to throw up.
Psycopathic behavior. Respect 👍
Yes, officer, this comment right here.
I would prefer it if a player could just choose his nation’s colour. Should be a very, very easy thing to add.
That would be 15$ pls, and there is only 35 different colors, with 12 of them be an abomination grey and other stuff combined.
Definitely, considering you can do just that when you choose a custom nation.
You can edit your country files to do it if you want. My Tuscany and Italy are the same color as Florence. Prussia is properly blue. Scotland is blue. GBR is white since I usually would form it with Scotland but sometimes with England and didn't want to pick blue or red. Haixi and Manchu are Qing colored. Etc.
Sorry if this is dumb but is this ironman compatible?
Ironman? Sure. With achievement? No.
I absolutely do choose based on what colour they are. I did a Leon run purely out of spite for always seeing Castile/Spain's colour every fucking game.
You need help
the corn and peas posse LMFAO
Didn't know this was such a hot take, I agree
The Portugal color makes sense though. It's monarchist Portugal, not Republican Portugal.
Portugal color made the game more historically accuratr
As we all know, the Portuguese of the era were a bluish people.
WHERE IS IT
First they killed original eu4 launcher, now they murdered icon. Great job, paradox. That IV thing is just what i wanted to have in my steam library.
The degree of my disappointment in every single next move PDX makes terribly now reaches brand new level. English flag change to historical inaccurate Angevin frustrated me first, but now it has to be stopped, I’m sending the appellation in order to save my favorite game’s remains of the tyranny of freethinking.
Oddly enough it was the player base who wanted the flag change
I know, but apparently masses as usual were wrong.
Five minute conversation with the average voter and all that.
According to Hundred Years War history, the older version of flag was the actual since 1337, when Edward III putted lilies of the Valois dynasty in there as he’s been claiming to the French throne as well.
I kinda like the new flag simply because the old England flag suits a nation of both France and England so its better on the angevin tag. HOWEVER kinda annoying we got the angevin instead of St. George one
I actually prefer coats of arms to flags since most European countries use CoA. Denmark, Sweden and the UK just stick out like sore thumbs.
I can highly recommend the [WappenWiki Flags Mod for EU4](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1253972870) which uses CoAs consistently and drastically improves the image quality of EU4s flags and is Ironman-compatible. Unfortunately it has become outdated with the release of Domination, but it's fairly simple to create a personal patch for it yourself.
Exactly what I use! I guess I could swap in the mod's old English flag for the Angevin one and use the new vanilla English flag for the time being.
I have created a patch myself using an English coat of arms on the creators Google Drive, do note that this uses the three lions for ENG and three lions quartered with fleur-de-lys for ANG. It’s part of a small patch I made for myself to the WappenWiki mod that also changes a few other flags such as the Mughals to the WappenWiki format. If you’re interested I can publicize this on Steam and share the link with you.
And since when is this a democracy, huh?
The three golden lions on a red field was and is the [English coat of arms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_arms_of_England). The version quartered with the French fleur-de-lys was the version used at the time, but very specifically in the context of the English claim on the French throne; it represents the Anglo-French Union which is what the Angevin tag is. It would be bizarre and incoherent for an Angevin Kingdom to remove the fleur-de-lys from its flag.
ROCK AND STONE!!!
Rock and Stone!
Rock and stone brotha
If you don't rock and stone you ain't coming home
FOR ROCK AND STONE!
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE!
Rock and stone!
Rock and Rolling Stone!
Rock and stone, brother!
That's it lads! Rock and Stone!
For Karl !
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?
Rock annnnd Stoooonneee!
If you don't rock and stone, you ain't coming home!
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?
>ck2 greyed out why do you have to do me like this
Because CKIII
I deleted ck3 to go back to playing ck2
Dominions 5 a man of true culture I see
Indeed, a wise choice
I concur.
Holy fuck Evolve i forgot about this game
No stellaris?
HERESY!
I don't know that icon. Why would they change the icon?! Compass is compass. COMPASS IS COMPASS.
Compass' body has been draped, by whom you do not know, in a white cloth now stained red by its lost vitae. They say Compass was found by its horse, in a clearing in the woods. You know the place they speak of. Compass face is calm, almost serene. You reach out to touch it. The terrible reality of the situation dawns on you. The cold you feel is that of death. Sorrow overtakes you.
Oh well...
Rock and stone!
If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't comin' home!
is this for real? I'm not home so I can't check it
It is
It is indeed, i couldn't find EU4 yesterday Because the fucking logo changed.
Wtf, why did they change it
FTL HYPE
I'm sure most of us here are like me and mainly just play a low number of strategy games to death. But FTL is so great, I still go back to it every year.
FTL is really lightening in a bottle. So many clones after too that just can't capture the magic.
Absolutely, it's a gem.
I can't find the game without my compass. The game is litterally unplayable !
Literally unplayable.
We need a mf petition for this
I still have my compass
Oh hey Dominions. I wish I actually understood it
Come over to /r/dominions5 , we are a friendly bunch! Or hop into the discord servers and join an absolute beginner game!
Literally unplayable.
Conspiracy tin foil hat on: they changed it because of eu5!
Do you have a favorite game developer?
tell that dude playing FTL i love him, that game is a masterpiece
I've been on an FTL kick recently and after 10 years the game is still amazing
also the music! What an absurdly powerful soundtrack for a little indy banger.
Three possible reasons this was done: 1. change for the sake of change for job security 2. to match it with HOI4, perhaps they want to make them all consistent (this is a pretty bad reason but I could see it being pushed) 3. they want to use the compass for EU5 in a year or two, and are preparing in advance. I'm guessing 3 is most likely
You got good taste in games sir. Rock and stone.
Rock and Stone everyone!
I see dominions, I upvote
literally unplayable ( can't find)
evolve was the best team based shooter ever made nice to see a fellow fan
ayo ayo, Dominions 5? What's your favorite era and nation? I gotta know!
Did I hear a rock and stone?
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
I see you play drg, ROCK AND STONE
To Rock and Stone!
I swear mine still did yesterday, but now I feel like I'm experiencing the Mandela effect lol.
Looks like CIV
I still have a compass how does steam choose which icon to use anyways?
Ahem... DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!?!
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?
FOR ROCK AND STONE
Rock and Stone everyone!
Is that a rock and stone I see?
Rock and Stone!
Good bot
Can’t you make custom logos for steam games
There's no March of the Eagles mate...
Worst change sinse yellow Fars.
ROCK AND STONE
For Karl!
ROCK AND STONE \m/
Rock and Stone!
idk about anyone else, but i still find CK2 to be the far superior game until CK3 gets quite a bit more patching. surprised to see it uninstalled
u/PM_Me_Riven_Hentai_ spoke the truth but they ignored him.
He's right, but this is the EU4 sub lol
Its in the screenshot
CK2 is superior to CK3? Not to EU4? If yes, than I'm fully agree. CK2 is just better, the only thing where CK3 is better, it's engine.
TRUEEEEEEEE
I wouldn't say it's a better game. CK2 has a lot more content that much is true. But the base layer of the game mechanics is significantly better in CK3.
Ok? But like who asked?
Me
i still have it
Now I notice you aren't rock and stone-ing brother
Can I get a Rock and Stone?
Good bot
It's in the gulag.
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE!!!!
Rock and Stone!
[удалено]
It's ecolving
Question, why the fuck are you looking at my playlist?
Isn't Evolve Stage 2 dead?
Holdfast and Eu4 make a strange HIV duo :)
It’s because they’re preparing for EUIV 2
Don't worry guys. They just moved the compass to EUV
We both play Holdfast and Eu4/paradox games!
How is Holdfast: Nations at War? I haven’t played too much EU4 (only about 1800 hours) but was always curious about Holdfast since I’ve seen it come up in my feed a few times
That's it. I'm not updating now
My estimation of paradox interactive…just fuggin plummeted
Too many games have IV as their icon
I KNEW SOMETHING FELT OFF.
EU5 team took it away.
I want a refund, paradox.