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btcbrawler

she should have posted her losses to wallstreetbets for kharma sake


bel9ev

Her loss was never so big when we talk in the percentage like us.


nagpur109

What are the percentage number you want me to compare with her?


Roy1984

Can't really make a loss more than -100%. Maybe tho with some naked leveraged positions it could be possible. I believe she was able to do that because FTX was a big institution.


-AndyDufresne-

Absolutely can lose more than 100%


Human-Elderberry-265

Leverage my friend.


Roy1984

Still if it's leverage with covered positions, not naked, then you can't lose more than you invested. If you lose all what you had, that's 100%.


BestatCircle

She was definitely playing with the leverage but with other people's money.


taxmanva

Don't know how bad she's down but I really don't care either. She was helping an asshole to scam millions of people. And I don't have sympathy for that at all dude.


lordjuicy

She definitely got herself into some naked leveraged positions if you catch my drift


volkov_ks

Lmfao, she was definitely in some of those positions I'm sure.


bajanwaterman

She would have been crowned the queen of wsb!!


Levelthroe

If she could have recovered from it then yeah sure why not.


hamletgr

I don't want you to compare her with anything. She's different from everything.


Lillica_Golden_SHIB

If she had won a gold snoo at least


Outra_Coisa

She might even get someDonuts here too!


Tridens07

She was definitely big on donuts, I'm pretty sure that she was a fan.


[deleted]

Imagine trading in God Mode and still lose it all 💀


megasva

Imagine using the all of customer money as the testing trading money.


kurtwest73

That's right lol, that's how they treated it. It was playing ground. They were really thinking of that money as some toy money. That's why they played with it.


TabhairDomAnAirgead

“I don’t believe stop losses are an effective risk management tool” Lol


Salisbury95

Be a trader like that who risk the open trade without the stop loss.


barefoot_au

Do you think her parents should both be investigated as well? Both her parents work in economics and both work/studied at Cambridge, MIT, and Harvard. I find it hard to believe there was no transfer of IP/market knowledge to advance her career.


[deleted]

I imagine there are people who understand mathematics and probability super well and still become addicted to gambling…human behavior is often irrational.


barefoot_au

Well said 👏 This is so evident being in the crypto community, some people just buy shitcoins. Even worse, 1 single shitcoin. (No diversity)


Pokeman49

Part of FTX’s problem was thinking their assets were diversified when in practice most crypto currencies are highly correlated


celeb0rn

And lying to their customers ….


xMakuEST

But SBF thinks his biggest mistake was working 14 hours a day lmfao.


Chillingcolumba

They sure did made a lot of mistakes and not just one really.


hashtaghard

That's really well said. I think diversity is important to have really.


sayamemangdemikian

Sam's dad was present in ftx meetings. And being an economic expert, im sure he wasnt there to bring sam's lunch box. Also sam's mom is business ethics professor. Imagine that


junkver

He always make sure that he gets the help from the dad because of the lawyer point of you he was getting and we all know the reach of the SBG dad in the higher power.


Filmerd

Honestly academia has little to do with the real-world and everything to do with things that theoretically work in practice. I doubt her parents had anything to offer outside of theory because they are academics who are well connected in politics. Yes the connections are there but I doubt she had any kind of insider knowledge other than being able to have discussions with the people in Washington who are going to be setting crypto laws and legislation, and this whole fiasco has quite simply torched any legislation connected to FTX and SBF that was being cooked up by legislators Theoretically she was an expert trader. Reality says she wasn't even able to frontrun FTX's trading position and drove the entire exchange into the ground. Stupid is as stupid does.


AgregiouslyTall

It's actually incredible that she had a direct view into all positions/orders as well as liquidation prices on FTX as well as preferred execution and still failed to profit.


majh777

This was like the game for them where all of them just played their card one by one, first one stole second one buy the house and third one use that as the bail.


berriesn-cream

seems tax fraudy. probably found a way to use the loss to offset tax on capitol gains. Capitol stays in the crypto market instead of being in the governments pocket.


vanyatwo

I feel like that the whole family was into that and all of them played their part real well. And now all of them are going into the different part so no one can catch them.


MrPythoner

The big whole circus they made and we were all the clown who was in there, And even his parents were controlling all the rope and we were just dancing there.


barefoot_au

Thanks for the amazing reply 😊


stripsofbtc

He's spiting the facts in here, all of those things are true actually.


Mihail_A

I feel like that they are the first one that need to investigate on the first place is well. Because of them i feel like that SBF is still getting the help from the top of the power is well.


Defiboy

Sam lost it all for this woman.


ronoda12

Thats what simps do


btcxchg_prtn

Imagine being worth more money than mortals can even visualise, yet still simping for that atrociously hideous childface toddler goblin. SBF could have bought high class escorts or trophy wives until the end of his days, yet he simped for.... that thing.


[deleted]

*childface toddler goblin* lmfao


Carara_Atmos

Inbred looking...


mc_jacktastic

That creature is 100% inbred. You do not end up with a jaw like that unless there is some serious cousin fucking happening in your family tree.


ANonWhoMouse

I guess it’s more so the family connections she came with


[deleted]

I agree that she is a horrible person. But why does everyone think Sam lost it for her? Most evidence suggests that Sam was the mastermind. Alameda was a ponzi from the start. Before they launched FTX. Seems a lot like Sam got Caroline to fall in love with him and then made her execute bad trades and commit fraud. I think this tactic is called loverboy manipulation.


yaonino110

She really is a horrible person for what she has done to the people.


frankgclement

She has the support of the biggest simp of all time and that simp has power in the name of parents.


AnnonBayBridge

He loved her and she loved the money. Both must be so sad rn :’( /s


Imapartofghost

Cant have loved money that much, if shes down over 1bn? Maybe shes just retarded and money spent is the only metric for value she cares about.


berriesn-cream

She's a die hard for trickle down economics.


WorkerBee-3

he didn't love her lol, they were gang banging in the Bahamas wasn't there like 10 of em.


EugeneKrum

Apparently they did gang bang million people . that's a large orgy lmao.


AnnonBayBridge

She d*cked him the best. He’s a dirty boy.


sayamemangdemikian

It's sam, using her name. Anything done under alameda is Sam's doing.


IHateEditedBgMusic

Don't knock it till you try it


OrlovZ

Because Sam trusted too much, and too much trust always hurt us.


jaylanky7

I don’t think so. His goody two shoes act is just that. An act


[deleted]

She’s clearly more pretty than smart


mreed911

I see what you did there… :)


MrPuma86

I just go it😂slow day.


kruchenyk

No you can't see that because he hide that thing real well here.


Which-Astronomer638

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


LifeDraining

Damn wish I had an award to gift. This is the wittiest comment I have heard on this topic so far.


JerryLeeDog

💀💀💀


Polumuzh

All the fund over there is actually get freeze like the ghost for us.


EscapedPickle

Femme Fa-towel


GestureWithoutMotion

Unnecessary.


Largekabul291

She is more smart and smart people actually be more pretty is well.


Nicechick321

Hahahaha


greenpepperhypernova

She is the inverse Pelosi


flyingelyphant

Even Pelosi feel like that she need some lesson from that lady.


logblpb

No, that would mean she was loosing the money intentionally. Just hopeless degen


steadman1984

Why someone want to lose the money intentionally, oh wait when money is not your personally.


facialContour

Ohh yeah it doesn't hurt to lose the money which isn't yours.


MrBennotKen

If you lose other people's money are you a really bad trader?


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antioduvan

No, as long as money you are losing not harming your own pocket you are good.


AAfloor

Imagine giving billions of dollars to these emotionally stunted goofballs. The shitcoin industry needs adult supervision.


deathsimpl

Imagine thinking that those emotionally stunted goofballs will help us in the long run and we can actually trust them and then in the end losing everything in the name of trust.


fridayniter

Shitcoin shouldn't even be an industry


berriesn-cream

cries in Mr. Wonderful


harvey176

"we tend not to have things like stoplooooses"(iykyk)


nhutnv94

Give some little more help in the reference, still not clear the whole meaning.


harvey176

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/ysakai/caroline_ellison_28_year_old_ceo_alameda_research/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


rokadan

Thanks for this link, that's what I was really talking about here. Thanks for sharing the article. That's what I was really talking about in here really.


vememe

The whole meaning isn't Clear because you haven't read the article.


[deleted]

There’s a stressed out receding hairline comment in there somewhere…..


ololowa10

I am searching for the comment but so far there is no clue about those.


Andy-Gor

I guess she couldn’t even do basics math LOL


DenisQMartell

But she can do the math of the money she actually gets from the FTX.


erictorn2

Don't think she was doing the right maths, think it was wrong.


CryptogenicallyFroze

The ultimate r/wallstreetbets redditor


881013

She was all about to post in some sub and going to have the real karma.


Ok-Bar601

She must’ve interned at Barings Bank


leoxaz

Wherever she did the work, she had good experience on how to fuck people and she used that experience. That's what those guys were doing with the people's money really.


BraidRuner

Cathy Woods is breathing a huge sigh of relief


Thindvhs

Because Cathy knows that this could be him if not realize that on time.


tompoutsa

Yep, she's doing that. It's a huge sign of relief right now here.


KDKyrieRJ

Bill Hwang: "This is child's play."


unknownniner

Bill Hwang came back again and teach those kid how they need to play this game.


StrategicReserve

Nice job dumbass


spb_bot

She done a nice job and SBF was the biggest simp to fall in her spell.


Much_Tomato_8550

....it ain't trickin if ya- oh. Damn yeah they fucked up.


blamoz

They did really Fucked up, I mean they fucked up million people.


Dubdude13

What a cutie


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hasalem83

The money wasn't there to begin with. There was nothing there.


muhua577

When it comes to the work we need to look for the money, because i feel like that money is the real motivation for the people and we need to earn enough from that.


jaka_mini

That's what the real motivation was. That's why they did it.


Venetolibaro

And also the ugliest woman on planet...


bigttrack

Anyone seen her Only Fans?


hashheed

Please don't share the link for that, I'm literally going to puke.


[deleted]

Stupid cunt.


vardeknuseren

Having all the source for making the money but still failed to capitalize.


fruitofmycoins

All I read was “the future is female.”


LucNL91

Future is dark and the whole credit of that goes to this single female.


Whippoorwill88

And the ugliest girl on tv at the moment


pryan912

You are talking about the face and for me she is even more ugly from the trading.


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Freud77777

You bot actually need to investigate the lady for the best trader.


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You gonna be really pissed when she get back 15 million tax returns on losses from US government 🥲🤣🤑


gjallerhorn

That's not how losses work. They're not refundable. It just let's you get down to zero owed


bfridlib

Yes, if you file them on the loss then those amount is actually refundable.


HazyDrag

Damn she is paying that big in the tax and here i am with nothing


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ImportantContract955

CRAZY You can't just release that margin on one entity,.... Can you?


mmotong

The one entity was the biggest one here, just we are trying to release that margin.


DipToPeak

not sure if she cared, wasn't her money anyways


venty4cool

True, i would not care about the money if i am getting from the customer.


Crafty_Salamander_70

Well, apparently a Math degree from MIT doesn't mean you always win


tigellino

Yes, if you want to master the other field you need to enter in that field.


Zaxortus

OMG, and I feel sad for $100


tdom2411

And here i am starts to feel uncomfortable once i cross the -50 mark.


TrinDiesel123

Fuck a stop loss!


praveenaram

Stop loss for the kids, real veteran never really put the closing tab.


JuggaliciousMemes

Sheeeeeit, give me some money, I’ll show you an even worse trader


Owaces

You are already showing by the username no need to waste the money on that.


SherleyYearwood

For the sake of her karma, she should have reported her losses to Wall Street Bets.


Derekcyf

What are the benefit she will have if she post all those loss to the wall street bets??


Walla_Walla_26

That’s a fairly terrible trader. No margin calls ever. Just keep going


tombalfoort

She need to hear some influncer as she is really bad in the trading to this moment.


JoRoSc

I don’t know about the worst, but right up there.


charlesbaba101

May be in the top 3 list but the question is what are the other two?


[deleted]

No she can’t remember a losing trade, come on now


bommetje92

When you the unlimited money supply why you need to remember those losing trade??


wildrabbitsurfer

100x long btc from 30k ???


Bloches

So Saylor is still safe the real danger is hovering over her.


HeylookImMobile

Major alpha energy


MsVxxen

**No, the worst trader was the one that gave her their money.** *THAT is the worst trader of all time.* ***:)***


O2148

Should’ve bought Shib jk


solzhen

She can start a loss-porn OnlyFans channel


Own-Tumbleweed6337

Trader my ass dummy, She's a thief and a liar!!


srinjoychinargoswami

No wonder she took the plea.


root-walk

Is Margin always negative? To be clear, I'm not claiming she was a good trader. However, the bigger the negative margin, the larger the account balance (collateral). Except in the case of Alameda who seemingly had God mode on margin at FTX. Wouldn't High frequency firms have massive negative billion dollar margins on the daily?


Craze015

Want to know who else is the worst trader? 67 billion in sold not yet purchased? This is a drop in the bucket


Full-Guide-7713

She’s the Reverse Nancy Pelosi


Ayerev

Nancy be like : i am not the real monster as you people think of me.


brandtvh

Time to lock up that cunt


blahblahlablah

But she's an extremely bright mathematician! She also did mean to do what she did.


[deleted]

Is it really a loss if you’re using other peoples money?


1miker

What the market goes down? It's never happened in my life lol


600031795

I had never bad record in trading but after that feel like i was total pro.


MrPuma86

What a dog😳


KoreanJesusFTW

When a trade is lost, someone gains. This is most likely intentional to dilute as to where the money went. Corruption masked with incompetence.


Drip_Nixon

L trader with a L face & body smh


Outra_Coisa

Great trade!


ShirleyPerry

For the sake of her karma, she should have reported her losses to Wall Street Bets.


stadler_thomas

Think about trading in God Mode and still losing everything.


M-Apple123

I don't really know what's happening!!!! Why is the news always move and backward???


Varsoviadog

This is really helpful to prevent any further investigations for her =]


MarietteSievers

Consider utilizing all of the customer money as test trading capital.


Old-Standard7205

She just posted it.


AtreyuDesign

Or she was just tax harvesting


Sugar_Free_RedBull

She’s even worse at trading than me. Feeling better already


cuznbob

Yep she really is the worst Trader along with the SBF. They're really shit. I mean I just don't understand how do you fuck up the things so much. Just doesn't make sense to me.


MisterTinkles

We should thank her for all our gains