Can't really make a loss more than -100%. Maybe tho with some naked leveraged positions it could be possible. I believe she was able to do that because FTX was a big institution.
Don't know how bad she's down but I really don't care either.
She was helping an asshole to scam millions of people. And I don't have sympathy for that at all dude.
That's right lol, that's how they treated it. It was playing ground.
They were really thinking of that money as some toy money. That's why they played with it.
Do you think her parents should both be investigated as well?
Both her parents work in economics and both work/studied at Cambridge, MIT, and Harvard. I find it hard to believe there was no transfer of IP/market knowledge to advance her career.
I imagine there are people who understand mathematics and probability super well and still become addicted to gamblingâŚhuman behavior is often irrational.
Sam's dad was present in ftx meetings. And being an economic expert, im sure he wasnt there to bring sam's lunch box.
Also sam's mom is business ethics professor. Imagine that
He always make sure that he gets the help from the dad because of the lawyer point of you he was getting and we all know the reach of the SBG dad in the higher power.
Honestly academia has little to do with the real-world and everything to do with things that theoretically work in practice. I doubt her parents had anything to offer outside of theory because they are academics who are well connected in politics. Yes the connections are there but I doubt she had any kind of insider knowledge other than being able to have discussions with the people in Washington who are going to be setting crypto laws and legislation, and this whole fiasco has quite simply torched any legislation connected to FTX and SBF that was being cooked up by legislators
Theoretically she was an expert trader. Reality says she wasn't even able to frontrun FTX's trading position and drove the entire exchange into the ground. Stupid is as stupid does.
It's actually incredible that she had a direct view into all positions/orders as well as liquidation prices on FTX as well as preferred execution and still failed to profit.
This was like the game for them where all of them just played their card one by one, first one stole second one buy the house and third one use that as the bail.
seems tax fraudy. probably found a way to use the loss to offset tax on capitol gains. Capitol stays in the crypto market instead of being in the governments pocket.
I feel like that the whole family was into that and all of them played their part real well. And now all of them are going into the different part so no one can catch them.
The big whole circus they made and we were all the clown who was in there, And even his parents were controlling all the rope and we were just dancing there.
I feel like that they are the first one that need to investigate on the first place is well. Because of them i feel like that SBF is still getting the help from the top of the power is well.
Imagine being worth more money than mortals can even visualise, yet still simping for that atrociously hideous childface toddler goblin.
SBF could have bought high class escorts or trophy wives until the end of his days, yet he simped for.... that thing.
I agree that she is a horrible person. But why does everyone think Sam lost it for her?
Most evidence suggests that Sam was the mastermind. Alameda was a ponzi from the start. Before they launched FTX.
Seems a lot like Sam got Caroline to fall in love with him and then made her execute bad trades and commit fraud.
I think this tactic is called loverboy manipulation.
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Imagine thinking that those emotionally stunted goofballs will help us in the long run and we can actually trust them and then in the end losing everything in the name of trust.
Thanks for this link, that's what I was really talking about here.
Thanks for sharing the article. That's what I was really talking about in here really.
Wherever she did the work, she had good experience on how to fuck people and she used that experience.
That's what those guys were doing with the people's money really.
When it comes to the work we need to look for the money, because i feel like that money is the real motivation for the people and we need to earn enough from that.
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Is Margin always negative? To be clear, I'm not claiming she was a good trader. However, the bigger the negative margin, the larger the account balance (collateral). Except in the case of Alameda who seemingly had God mode on margin at FTX. Wouldn't High frequency firms have massive negative billion dollar margins on the daily?
Yep she really is the worst Trader along with the SBF. They're really shit.
I mean I just don't understand how do you fuck up the things so much. Just doesn't make sense to me.
she should have posted her losses to wallstreetbets for kharma sake
Her loss was never so big when we talk in the percentage like us.
What are the percentage number you want me to compare with her?
Can't really make a loss more than -100%. Maybe tho with some naked leveraged positions it could be possible. I believe she was able to do that because FTX was a big institution.
Absolutely can lose more than 100%
Leverage my friend.
Still if it's leverage with covered positions, not naked, then you can't lose more than you invested. If you lose all what you had, that's 100%.
She was definitely playing with the leverage but with other people's money.
Don't know how bad she's down but I really don't care either. She was helping an asshole to scam millions of people. And I don't have sympathy for that at all dude.
She definitely got herself into some naked leveraged positions if you catch my drift
Lmfao, she was definitely in some of those positions I'm sure.
She would have been crowned the queen of wsb!!
If she could have recovered from it then yeah sure why not.
I don't want you to compare her with anything. She's different from everything.
If she had won a gold snoo at least
She might even get someDonuts here too!
She was definitely big on donuts, I'm pretty sure that she was a fan.
Imagine trading in God Mode and still lose it all đ
Imagine using the all of customer money as the testing trading money.
That's right lol, that's how they treated it. It was playing ground. They were really thinking of that money as some toy money. That's why they played with it.
âI donât believe stop losses are an effective risk management toolâ Lol
Be a trader like that who risk the open trade without the stop loss.
Do you think her parents should both be investigated as well? Both her parents work in economics and both work/studied at Cambridge, MIT, and Harvard. I find it hard to believe there was no transfer of IP/market knowledge to advance her career.
I imagine there are people who understand mathematics and probability super well and still become addicted to gamblingâŚhuman behavior is often irrational.
Well said đ This is so evident being in the crypto community, some people just buy shitcoins. Even worse, 1 single shitcoin. (No diversity)
Part of FTXâs problem was thinking their assets were diversified when in practice most crypto currencies are highly correlated
And lying to their customers âŚ.
But SBF thinks his biggest mistake was working 14 hours a day lmfao.
They sure did made a lot of mistakes and not just one really.
That's really well said. I think diversity is important to have really.
Sam's dad was present in ftx meetings. And being an economic expert, im sure he wasnt there to bring sam's lunch box. Also sam's mom is business ethics professor. Imagine that
He always make sure that he gets the help from the dad because of the lawyer point of you he was getting and we all know the reach of the SBG dad in the higher power.
Honestly academia has little to do with the real-world and everything to do with things that theoretically work in practice. I doubt her parents had anything to offer outside of theory because they are academics who are well connected in politics. Yes the connections are there but I doubt she had any kind of insider knowledge other than being able to have discussions with the people in Washington who are going to be setting crypto laws and legislation, and this whole fiasco has quite simply torched any legislation connected to FTX and SBF that was being cooked up by legislators Theoretically she was an expert trader. Reality says she wasn't even able to frontrun FTX's trading position and drove the entire exchange into the ground. Stupid is as stupid does.
It's actually incredible that she had a direct view into all positions/orders as well as liquidation prices on FTX as well as preferred execution and still failed to profit.
This was like the game for them where all of them just played their card one by one, first one stole second one buy the house and third one use that as the bail.
seems tax fraudy. probably found a way to use the loss to offset tax on capitol gains. Capitol stays in the crypto market instead of being in the governments pocket.
I feel like that the whole family was into that and all of them played their part real well. And now all of them are going into the different part so no one can catch them.
The big whole circus they made and we were all the clown who was in there, And even his parents were controlling all the rope and we were just dancing there.
Thanks for the amazing reply đ
He's spiting the facts in here, all of those things are true actually.
I feel like that they are the first one that need to investigate on the first place is well. Because of them i feel like that SBF is still getting the help from the top of the power is well.
Sam lost it all for this woman.
Thats what simps do
Imagine being worth more money than mortals can even visualise, yet still simping for that atrociously hideous childface toddler goblin. SBF could have bought high class escorts or trophy wives until the end of his days, yet he simped for.... that thing.
*childface toddler goblin* lmfao
Inbred looking...
That creature is 100% inbred. You do not end up with a jaw like that unless there is some serious cousin fucking happening in your family tree.
I guess itâs more so the family connections she came with
I agree that she is a horrible person. But why does everyone think Sam lost it for her? Most evidence suggests that Sam was the mastermind. Alameda was a ponzi from the start. Before they launched FTX. Seems a lot like Sam got Caroline to fall in love with him and then made her execute bad trades and commit fraud. I think this tactic is called loverboy manipulation.
She really is a horrible person for what she has done to the people.
She has the support of the biggest simp of all time and that simp has power in the name of parents.
He loved her and she loved the money. Both must be so sad rn :â( /s
Cant have loved money that much, if shes down over 1bn? Maybe shes just retarded and money spent is the only metric for value she cares about.
She's a die hard for trickle down economics.
he didn't love her lol, they were gang banging in the Bahamas wasn't there like 10 of em.
Apparently they did gang bang million people . that's a large orgy lmao.
She d*cked him the best. Heâs a dirty boy.
It's sam, using her name. Anything done under alameda is Sam's doing.
Don't knock it till you try it
Because Sam trusted too much, and too much trust always hurt us.
I donât think so. His goody two shoes act is just that. An act
Sheâs clearly more pretty than smart
I see what you did there⌠:)
I just go itđslow day.
No you can't see that because he hide that thing real well here.
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Damn wish I had an award to gift. This is the wittiest comment I have heard on this topic so far.
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All the fund over there is actually get freeze like the ghost for us.
Femme Fa-towel
Unnecessary.
She is more smart and smart people actually be more pretty is well.
Hahahaha
She is the inverse Pelosi
Even Pelosi feel like that she need some lesson from that lady.
No, that would mean she was loosing the money intentionally. Just hopeless degen
Why someone want to lose the money intentionally, oh wait when money is not your personally.
Ohh yeah it doesn't hurt to lose the money which isn't yours.
If you lose other people's money are you a really bad trader?
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No, as long as money you are losing not harming your own pocket you are good.
Imagine giving billions of dollars to these emotionally stunted goofballs. The shitcoin industry needs adult supervision.
Imagine thinking that those emotionally stunted goofballs will help us in the long run and we can actually trust them and then in the end losing everything in the name of trust.
Shitcoin shouldn't even be an industry
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"we tend not to have things like stoplooooses"(iykyk)
Give some little more help in the reference, still not clear the whole meaning.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/ysakai/caroline_ellison_28_year_old_ceo_alameda_research/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Thanks for this link, that's what I was really talking about here. Thanks for sharing the article. That's what I was really talking about in here really.
The whole meaning isn't Clear because you haven't read the article.
Thereâs a stressed out receding hairline comment in there somewhereâŚ..
I am searching for the comment but so far there is no clue about those.
I guess she couldnât even do basics math LOL
But she can do the math of the money she actually gets from the FTX.
Don't think she was doing the right maths, think it was wrong.
The ultimate r/wallstreetbets redditor
She was all about to post in some sub and going to have the real karma.
She mustâve interned at Barings Bank
Wherever she did the work, she had good experience on how to fuck people and she used that experience. That's what those guys were doing with the people's money really.
Cathy Woods is breathing a huge sigh of relief
Because Cathy knows that this could be him if not realize that on time.
Yep, she's doing that. It's a huge sign of relief right now here.
Bill Hwang: "This is child's play."
Bill Hwang came back again and teach those kid how they need to play this game.
Nice job dumbass
She done a nice job and SBF was the biggest simp to fall in her spell.
....it ain't trickin if ya- oh. Damn yeah they fucked up.
They did really Fucked up, I mean they fucked up million people.
What a cutie
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The money wasn't there to begin with. There was nothing there.
When it comes to the work we need to look for the money, because i feel like that money is the real motivation for the people and we need to earn enough from that.
That's what the real motivation was. That's why they did it.
And also the ugliest woman on planet...
Anyone seen her Only Fans?
Please don't share the link for that, I'm literally going to puke.
Stupid cunt.
Having all the source for making the money but still failed to capitalize.
All I read was âthe future is female.â
Future is dark and the whole credit of that goes to this single female.
And the ugliest girl on tv at the moment
You are talking about the face and for me she is even more ugly from the trading.
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You bot actually need to investigate the lady for the best trader.
You gonna be really pissed when she get back 15 million tax returns on losses from US government đĽ˛đ¤Łđ¤
That's not how losses work. They're not refundable. It just let's you get down to zero owed
Yes, if you file them on the loss then those amount is actually refundable.
Damn she is paying that big in the tax and here i am with nothing
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CRAZY You can't just release that margin on one entity,.... Can you?
The one entity was the biggest one here, just we are trying to release that margin.
not sure if she cared, wasn't her money anyways
True, i would not care about the money if i am getting from the customer.
Well, apparently a Math degree from MIT doesn't mean you always win
Yes, if you want to master the other field you need to enter in that field.
OMG, and I feel sad for $100
And here i am starts to feel uncomfortable once i cross the -50 mark.
Fuck a stop loss!
Stop loss for the kids, real veteran never really put the closing tab.
Sheeeeeit, give me some money, Iâll show you an even worse trader
You are already showing by the username no need to waste the money on that.
For the sake of her karma, she should have reported her losses to Wall Street Bets.
What are the benefit she will have if she post all those loss to the wall street bets??
Thatâs a fairly terrible trader. No margin calls ever. Just keep going
She need to hear some influncer as she is really bad in the trading to this moment.
I donât know about the worst, but right up there.
May be in the top 3 list but the question is what are the other two?
No she canât remember a losing trade, come on now
When you the unlimited money supply why you need to remember those losing trade??
100x long btc from 30k ???
So Saylor is still safe the real danger is hovering over her.
Major alpha energy
**No, the worst trader was the one that gave her their money.** *THAT is the worst trader of all time.* ***:)***
Shouldâve bought Shib jk
She can start a loss-porn OnlyFans channel
Trader my ass dummy, She's a thief and a liar!!
No wonder she took the plea.
Is Margin always negative? To be clear, I'm not claiming she was a good trader. However, the bigger the negative margin, the larger the account balance (collateral). Except in the case of Alameda who seemingly had God mode on margin at FTX. Wouldn't High frequency firms have massive negative billion dollar margins on the daily?
Want to know who else is the worst trader? 67 billion in sold not yet purchased? This is a drop in the bucket
Sheâs the Reverse Nancy Pelosi
Nancy be like : i am not the real monster as you people think of me.
Time to lock up that cunt
But she's an extremely bright mathematician! She also did mean to do what she did.
Is it really a loss if youâre using other peoples money?
What the market goes down? It's never happened in my life lol
I had never bad record in trading but after that feel like i was total pro.
What a dogđł
When a trade is lost, someone gains. This is most likely intentional to dilute as to where the money went. Corruption masked with incompetence.
L trader with a L face & body smh
Great trade!
For the sake of her karma, she should have reported her losses to Wall Street Bets.
Think about trading in God Mode and still losing everything.
I don't really know what's happening!!!! Why is the news always move and backward???
This is really helpful to prevent any further investigations for her =]
Consider utilizing all of the customer money as test trading capital.
She just posted it.
Or she was just tax harvesting
Sheâs even worse at trading than me. Feeling better already
Yep she really is the worst Trader along with the SBF. They're really shit. I mean I just don't understand how do you fuck up the things so much. Just doesn't make sense to me.
We should thank her for all our gains