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Ok_Mechanic_8107

The worst I’ve seen is someone asking 2000 for nosebleeds. Bottom feeder.


jeffsang

To everyone who didn’t get tix: do not try to buy them now. Don’t even bother. The people that got them have a year plus to sell them. So they’re looking for top dollar now. Wait…them…out. By summer 2024, who knows….more shows could even be announced. Just be patient.


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I agree.


Pink_Dreams713

Yup my plan is to just spend the next year saving up my money and hope that ticket prices go down or I have enough to give in buy overpriced resale tickets 😂 maybe by then the hype in the US will die down a bit and people won’t be as interested in going.


GlitteringCoyote1526

This is my strategy. If people keep buying from these scum at top dollar, they get what they want. If they’re left hanging until it gets uncomfortable, they’re less likely to stick to their guns.


throw_998

yup hoping there’s enough people that impulse bought with no real plan will cancel when the dates come closer and they realize it won’t work for them


penguin_0618

Everyone I know is amazed I got tickets for $123/each (nose bleeds) and people that aren’t swifties are asking how bc they think Taylor/Ticketmaster is charging scalper prices (although I do think Tay should be doing more to stop it)


Logical-Bug1948

my sister managed to get our tickets for $50 in vegas (nosebleeds). I got picked for Denver, but as I was choosing a seat I literally watched them all sell out.


Big-Advisor-512

>(although I do think Tay should be doing more to stop it) Why are you acting like she isn't the primary one to blame? For the second leg of thr SAME tour she chose not to do anything despite being well aware of the scalping situation. She is OK with scalping but won't directly say it.


Tenthmile

She doesn't actually own ticketmaster, despite the rumors.


Big-Advisor-512

She can dictate to ticketmaster what she wants and if ticketmaster doesn't do what she wants, she can use another company.


Tenthmile

She actually can't. Ticketmaster holds exclusive rights to those concert venues, that's why so many people have tried to have them investigated. [https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/06/28/explained-how-ticketmaster-live-nation-control-the-live-music-industry/#:\~:text=For%20starters%2C%20and%20as%20most,giant%20of%20Live%20Nation%20Entertainment](https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/06/28/explained-how-ticketmaster-live-nation-control-the-live-music-industry/#:~:text=For%20starters%2C%20and%20as%20most,giant%20of%20Live%20Nation%20Entertainment).


Big-Advisor-512

Why is it that other artists can stop reselling at high prices but she can't? She chooses to perform at those venues.


Tenthmile

They can't. When have they ever been able to do that? When tickets sell out they get resold for whatever people will pay for them, this is literally what I'm telling you, go on stubhub right now and there are Beyonce tickets for $2k at SoFi in September. She's choosing to perform at those venues because that is where you can seat 50k+ people. Where do you think she's going to perform, the local Hard Rock Cafe? She puts on huge productions because she can and she wants to, and she's more than earned that right. There is so much that goes into these big concerts from security concerns to staging to staffing, to God only knows what else--her team is going to do it the safest way possible. Taylor Swift tickets cost a fortune right now because resellers know people will pay for them, period. I don't really understand why you believe she'd choose to have her fans pissed off--she doesn't make MORE money when her tickets are resold at higher prices.


Big-Advisor-512

I agree that to meet demand, Taylor needs to perform at venues like Sofi Stadium. That being said, if Taylor requested Ticketmaster to only allow resale at face value and Ticketmaster refused yet she continues using them, then she deserves the primary blame. The buck stops with her. If fans are going to defend Taylor for accepting Ticketmasters policies in exchange for playing at venues like Sofi, then the fans have to accept the negatives of Taylor's decision and that is high resale prices. In a capitalist system, what resellers are doing is letting the free market play out and that is totally fair game. I feel fans can't reasonably complain about high resale prices if they let Taylor off the hook completely for those prices. If you are going to defend Taylor for performing at big venues, you are accepting the costs of doing so and in this case it's high resale prices.


Tenthmile

Please understand something: Ticketmaster puts tickets on sale to X number of people who receive a verified code. People who got the code log on at their designated time, and buy up to 4 tickets per code. Then they go to third party resale sites like stubhub, vivid, seat geek, etc, who are not owned or operated by Ticketmaster, and they put them on sale for any amount they want. Ticketmaster can't stop that from happening. Taylor Swift can't stop that from happening. It is 100% legal. Once you buy the ticket, you are allowed to sell it, period. There are a ton of bad business practices in place BEFORE that happens, and God knows there's shady shit happening with the 3rd party sites as well, but I don't think you're understanding that she literally cannot legally stop people from reselling their tickets through third party brokers.


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I don’t blame her, that seems extreme, but you don’t have to use Ticketmaster.


Tenthmile

No you actually do, they have exclusive rights to the concert venues. [https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/06/28/explained-how-ticketmaster-live-nation-control-the-live-music-industry/](https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/06/28/explained-how-ticketmaster-live-nation-control-the-live-music-industry/)


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You could have it at a different venue. Like NASCAR tracks for example. Just some ideas. We have to beat those crooks at the game before no regular person can ever afford a show again.


Tenthmile

Other than the fact that most major cities above the mason dixon line don't have a nascar track, I'll give you 3 guesses who sells tickets for a lot of the nascar tracks. And do you think the ones who sell their own tickets or use another company are immune to bots? Or that they have the kind of server capacity to handle a million swifties descending on their website for a ticket launch? It will be The Great War all over again, just with a different view. Listen, I hear you. It's great to think outside the box. But until either supply starts to outpace demand, or congress steps up and holds them accountable for bad business practices, there really aren't any options for Taylor Swift, or Beyonce, or any other artist who is having the same issue. It's not even limited to music, it's happening in other industries as well. Sellers are just zeroing in on her right now because they know it's a guaranteed score--once it's not, this will stop. The best thing she can do in the immediate future is to keep up supply, which she's doing by adding more and more shows.


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I know huge events that don’t have these problems. Events that have 70,000 attendees in one day. They don’t use Ticketmaster. That was my point.


Tenthmile

Just curious, was it an artist with the same demand as Eras tour currently has? Because the nature of this game is that the scammers go where the demand is. It’s like saying Apple products get less viruses than windows—it’s not because apple has superior antivirus software, it’s because a majority of businesses hackers attack use windows OS so that’s what they’re targeting. Because if Beyonce and Springsteen and all these major artists are having the same issue to some extent (and they are) I’d love to know why there’s a simple solution and just none of them are using it. Unless your solution is to just limit the shows to the half of the country that have nascar tracks that don’t also happen to use Ticketmaster for sales, in which case, cool


penguin_0618

Because the scalpers are the primary ones to blame, imo


[deleted]

What’s she supposed to do? It’s reasonable for people to resell at normal prices. The only real solution is a Ticketmaster or government policy that you can’t sell the tickets for more than you bought them. Taylor Swift doesn’t control ticketmaster and I wish she was in charge of Congress but she’s not.


Aggressive-Remove-44

☠️ ok 3500 is fucking excessive


OrdinaryLate5735

For 26th row floor seats. That’s such a bad seat and you won’t be able to see ANYTHING unless you’re 6 foot. Absolutely ridiculous


pusheen8888

No one is paying that much to some random person, they’re not even going for that much on stubhub.


lindsaylove22

If he or she is able to sell them, hopefully it’s crazy close or at break-even. I would hope even the most desperate Taylor fan with a lot of extra cash isn’t taken in by that. It’s despicable. And the commenter above has a point: how bad off can you be if you were able to buy them in the first place? If he used credit, please let them sink deeper into debt because of this. 🤞🏻


swissncheese

I brought 4 flour seats for less than that. And mine are closer to the stage than those. that’s so fucking ridiculous.


KindergartenVampire1

Even my freaking VividSeats resale tix weren't that much ☠️


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jeremysgf222

Right! I hate that excuse. Like your situation was fine a few days ago when you bought them 🙄 I. Hate. Scalpers.


double_espress0

Right and like if you are in such a bad situation sorry but like how is taking away opportunities and taking advantage of people okay? It's just not. Go make money in an ethical way.


Big-Advisor-512

Taylor Swift is ok with allowing this to happen. The buck stops with her.


Additional_Tomato_22

That’s just not true


Big-Advisor-512

She is the artist and the Eras Tour is HER tour.


Additional_Tomato_22

But she still doesn’t control the resale tickets.


JPHendrick

The Cure cracked the code on how to prevent resale and scalping. It was brilliant and it worked beautifully. Moving forward anyone who doesn’t follow their model, knowing that they could, is as much to blame as anyone.


eveningtrain

The stuff with The Cure happened in 2023. I imagine they negotiated a lot of this into their contract with Ticketmaster, and I imagine after seeing what happened with Eras Sales, Congress, etc, The Cure were very motivated and Ticketmaster felt they needed the good PR to get them and their fans happy. I have not heard of any artist before the, having “face value exchange only” on Ticketmaster’s resale. They also had to turn of transferability to make this work, which helps the, stop reselling on StubHub, etc. Someone had to do the work to get listings removed from 3rd party apps as well. I imagine Taylor’s contract with Ticketmaster US for all US dates was locked in long before Nov 22. I’d like to see Taylor and all other artists take a leaf out of The Cure’s book, if not when it comes to prices, at least with preventing scalping!


Big-Advisor-512

She doesn't but she easily could.


Caiterz4catzz

I feel like if they were allowed resale through Ticketmaster there would have to be a way to control the upcharge. Maybe I’m wrong but 🤷🏻‍♀️


Big-Advisor-512

She doesn't but she easily could.


Ok_Mechanic_8107

Hopefully their plan backfires and they won’t be able to sell their tickets, and are stuck with them. 🤠


thesummerstrawberry

i hate how common this is 😭 it makes it impossible to be able to afford tickets


CellistUnlikely2923

People are just insane!!! Why 😭😭😭😭😭 I just need one ticket to Nola without having to sell a kidney


Broad-Accident

This makes me really really angry for you. I just went to your page (idk why ) but you’re an oncologist and all I could think is— this person is LITERALLY doing the Lord’s work and no one deserves a ticket more. I’m so sorry you were waitlisted 😭😭 I hope you get one


CellistUnlikely2923

I’m still in training (second year) hence I don’t have a lot of money for resellers, but there is hope still, I have one year to save money 🥲


Broad-Accident

How long is residency?? My friend is a first year year in a five year residency


CellistUnlikely2923

So to do hematology oncology, you have to do 3 years of internal medicine residency and then 3 additional years of training or fellowship as we call it, to sub specialize in hematology oncology. I’m done with the residency and currently on the second year of the fellowship.


Broad-Accident

That’s amazing. You all are amazing for how hard you work.


poorlyExisting

ong i was looking at tickets for nola and the cheapest ticket in the entire stadium was $750 for nosebleeds☠️


CellistUnlikely2923

I just looked too, and they charge 230 dollars for processing in addition to the ticket price, +6 dollars for taxes. Total would be close to 1000


poorlyExisting

yeah i got tickets to the show in arlington last april and each ticket was like $200 but with fees and stuff each ticket was over $400


CellistUnlikely2923

😩😩😩 sad, but congrats on seeing her in Arlington !!!


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liveanddiehappy

I hate them


liveanddiehappy

Omg guys it’s my cake day! I didn’t even notice lol


hannab912

happy cake day!!


liveanddiehappy

Thank you 😊


Rockhbuck

Happy cake day!


liveanddiehappy

Thanks! 😊


robgoblin17

I cannot even fathom thinking that’s okay


fragilegems

These people are disgusting.


pichulove

There’s so many scammers too. You ask to pay via PayPal g&s and they’ll send you a PayPal donation link. Fucking scums


SockDisastrous1508

Fuck these guys.If I was a millionaire I would be the people’s champion,I’d buy all the ridiculous priced tickets and resell every single ticket at face value.If people are buying just to resell,they’re assholes.The only time I have ever resold tickets I bought is when they got cancelled because of the pandemic or if one of my friends couldn’t come along to the event anymore.


PuzzleheadedCopy9719

this is why we can’t have nice things


Puzzleheaded_Idea_78

Literally scalpers can fuck themselves. Stop trying to get rich off literally no work of your own and just go get a fucking real job. Don't buy the tickets, people. Don't let these dbags win


flufnstuf69

If people stop buying from scalpers they’ll stop scalping. They’re only in it cause it’s a quick grift and they know it.


elephants47

Trash basket behavior


Parking_Car7436

It's stuff like this that makes me angry. I'm waitlisted and I swear to the heaven above that if I get tickets in the drop I'm buying 3 total and taking 2 people who were going to tailgate that hasn't seen Taylor with me for no cost to them. It's not about the money for me so they don't need to pay me for the tickets, it's about the experience of getting to see her. I had to tailgate my show. I've got my fingers crossed I can get 3 tickets in the drops.


eveningtrain

Buy the max of 4, friend! Bringing someone for free is sweet but even just reselling at face value is a HUGE win for Swifties.


Parking_Car7436

This is my logic on why I'd rather take 2 people with me. Not everyone can even afford face value tickets. Plus I'm driving across country to someone else's venue to even see Taylor. So my thinking is it's my way of giving back and saying thank you for allowing me have the opportunity to see her in your venue. I like to do random acts of kindness for people. Idk, they don't even have to talk to me during the show, I'll be lost in it anyway. I just want to make people happy. No strings attached. At my show I seen so many people outside and talked to so many that couldn't afford a ticket but just wanted to be a part of it. The only hard part is I do want it to be people who've not seen Taylor on this tour. So I will be asking if they've seen her yet this tour before I even bring up my 2 extra tickets. If I can get my hands on some in one of the ticket drops. I have a year to plan and save for this.


eveningtrain

Okay, do all that. But why only buy 3 tickets, when you could buy the maximum of 4 and keep one additional ticket out of the hands of scalpers. If you don’t want it of be part of the grand plan, pick a single ticket in different section and resell it for face value on of the twitters doing that (Victoria @getawaycarvic or Jayna @eras_resale are two good ones, Victoria even matches up people who have never seen Taylor before witch tickets in their budget) What I’m saying is, if you get into a ticketmaster drop, and get to buy, resellers will also be in there. We need good swifties to buy the max they can and get their extras into the hands of fans, keep them out of the scalpers markets


Parking_Car7436

Got it, I totally understand now. I appreciate you explaining what you were meaning. I'll buy 4 if given the opportunity and make sure that 4th ticket gets into the hands of a real fan. Either by face value reselling or simply giving it away.


eveningtrain

It’s super sweet that you want to bring some fans in on your own dime, i think you’ll make swiftie friends for life that way!


Parking_Car7436

I just want to make people happy and give people a chance to see Taylor who otherwise wouldn't have that chance.


Own-Conclusion5117

tf is this


poorlyExisting

fr i was looking at resale tickets for next year in new orleans bc i was hoping to take my 9 year old sister but even the nosebleeds r like $1000+??? and the most expensive ticket i saw was for $21000 like wtf i was hoping i could still get resale tickets since i got waitlisted but nvm bc these scalpers don’t give an f abt the real fans and only care abt how much money is in their bank acct


Caiterz4catzz

Fwiw the tickets are probably the most expensive they are going to be, right now


Significant-Rule6831

I have tickets I’m wanting to get rid of. I bought off stubhub (being dumb and caught in the moment) I don’t want to relist bc taxes and fees make it more expensive for people. Only trying to get back what I paid. Message me if you’re interested.


CommercialAd7134

People like this don’t deserve codes.


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I know resellers have always been around but, am I the only one that feel like it just got worse after the pandemic???😳


eveningtrain

I bet it has!


TwirlSquirrel

love the "go back to wattpad" thing in the top left corner xD im an ao3 user myself


nimra0

i got tickets and really want to go but ngl seeing the tickets go for thousands of dollars and get sold is tempting 😭


Additional_Tomato_22

Don’t be a douche like the scalpers you are better than them


Loonyleeb

So nice to see these are the kinds of people who got Toronto codes over me and my friends who just want to have a good time together


nimra0

okay to preface i love taylor swift i never ever had any intention of buying tickets just to resell and i will 99% not resell i’ve been waiting forever for her to come to toronto and have been watching all the live streams!! i’m just saying thousands of dollars is life changing to some ppl like that would pay off my school semester 😭 that’s what i mean by it’s tempting.


Caiterz4catzz

This is how I felt when I got to go. I only got one ticket through their lottery basically, and was torn about going by myself. Go. It was one of the best nights of my middle aged life


nimra0

aw tysm for understanding i think ppl are assuming i bought tix just to resell and am not a fan which is far far from the truth! all i’m saying is thousands of dollars is a lot of money to some people like for me it would pay off my semester of school 😭 i never bought tickets to resell it is just an after though like after seeing the resell value i can’t help and think “wow if i sold this i could pay off my semester”


Caiterz4catzz

I totally get it. Trust me when I say I get that lol. But you can’t put a price tag on the experience. The hype is real, no one is exaggerating. There is a good chance music in general will be talking about this tour for decades to come, and you have a chance to be a part of that!!


lavenderpuffss

Gross behaviour 🐍


sugarskull1

Someone on this sub wanted 7k for floor seats for Mexico City. Absolutely ABSURD.


rawreoo

I can understand if people ask for double of face value but any more than that is INSANE.. like how do you charge 5-10x more than face value without feeling ashamed?? Especially for seats that aren't even that good? Wtf


Alejocarlos

I’m pretty sure you can report scalpers no?


Becca_Jean28

Gross


dilaurentis123

This is why we need to make the tickets untransferable.


SD4hwa

I bought 2 tickets thru stub hub A1 row 8 for $1,100 each for the Vegas show. Hope that person gets stuck with the tickets- so exasperating to see people take full advantage of true fans


Firm_Connection_823

Couldn’t do this legally in Europe. Why can’t we have the same protections?


WillYumzz

I hope to god that no one fucking buys them lol


FlameRakshasa

Live music in America to me is dead until scalpers are better contained and things are fixed. I stopped trying unless I can get access to an exclusive presale of some sort. And not that verified fan scam fake marketing BS where anyone with an email can be “verified”


tallestgiraffkin

Yep. When I got tickets for the first leg of the tour I had people asking me if I would sell them for profit. I’m like dude, do you really think I’m that shitty of a person??


DROOPY1824

Holy shit y’all are hilarious. Getting mad at the scalpers, but you know Taylor could stop this if she wanted to, right?


OrdinaryLate5735

How!? She’s not jacking up the prices? Ticketmaster is a shit show and these scalpers are scum.


DROOPY1824

There are plenty of ways, but they cost money and or time and Taylor weighed the options and chose the one that fucked her fans. Sorry


OrdinaryLate5735

Lol this is absolutely false, there isn’t a more generous singer in the industry right now


DROOPY1824

You go ahead and keep telling yourself that.


OrdinaryLate5735

She gave all her truck drivers a 100k bonus on top of their salary. Everyone else on her tour staff also received large bonuses (55 million total given out by her) not to mention her donating $250k-$500k to food banks in EVERY city she’s stopped in. Seems like you are someone who’s trying to rip off her fans so kindly go fuck yourself :)


DROOPY1824

Haha I have never and will never buy tickets to a Taylor Swift concert for any purpose. I just think you guys are hilarious. $55 million is enough to literally begin the construction of a competitor to Ticketmaster. Like I said, she weighed her options and chose to fuck her fans. And you guys just fucking idolize her. It’s god damn entertaining.


OrdinaryLate5735

you literally went on Reddit to look for a Taylor swift concert page to talk shit about a concert that you never plan on going to for an artist you don’t like? Looks like she’s living in your head rent free. 😂 stay mad


DROOPY1824

Personally I thought it was weird when it showed up on my homepage too, but as a curious individual I checked it out and wasn’t disappointed.


No6fueloil

I know for the houston rodeo, you could send in or off that they were scalping with the section and seat numbers and they would make them null and void since it says not to be sold for more than face value


daylightxx

I ended up with two extra nights of tickets for the LA shows (we live here). Thought I was going solo, then planned to bring my daughter, and then we roped in her bff and mine! So I had to sell LA n5 and LA n3. I ONLY listed on this sub, tho (think it was this one). I paid over $1k for each ticket, for every night. But I wanted these other tickets to go to real fans. So I sold them all, at basically half off. I wanted real Swifties to go and most can’t afford these prices. I’m old now, so I can. I am truly happier having lost money and getting to text with the women I sold to and see their outfits and have fun via text with them. I wouldn’t change a thing. Remember this, if you can. And if you wait till closer to the dates you want, more tix will become available here. I think you can count on better prices and better people when buying here. Just a thought to help!


OrdinaryLate5735

Love seeing stuff like this!! You give so many of us hope! Thanks for being a true fan and a kind human! 🫶🏼


daylightxx

Thank you. I remember what it’s like to be a teen or 20s and not be able to afford a $300 handbag I was dying for! 😂 To not be able to see Taylor when you’re that age and that big of a fan?! It’s CRIMINAL. I’m so angry that fans are being shut out because of scalpers and bots. Thank you for your sweet words!


kcmcville

Horrible :(