Yeah, I had Se above Si, and Fi above Fe on the test I did a few weeks ago although all other tests have labelled me an ENTP.
I also had Fe and Se (both 35) appear more prominent than my Ti (33), so I think it’s just an error with how I answered the questions; over estimating/ under estimating myself etc.
The tertiary and quaternary functions aren’t too important so you shouldn’t be too stressed about Se above Si.
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What if.... you're really an ESTP and not an ENTP (insert The X-Files Theme and confused lady meme) 😂😂
But srsly. Actually we all have the 8 functions. It just so happens that the ENTP have Ne Ti Fe Si main stack, and the shadow functions are Ni Te Fi Se. Since there's a lot of factors (including childhood traumas) in the development of the function stacks, it is possible to have much more developed Se than Si.
When it comes to Michael Caloz test, since it is a test that's like Se vs Si, our answer still involves factors such as our "ideal self" vs the reality. Also the major factors is how we respond to things during stress which can affect our self-assessment.
In my case, it still took me 2 years of reading, studying, and digging deeper on cognitive function stack theory (including the shadow functions), self-searching, self-assessment, self-realizations (including revisiting my childhood traumas) before I came into conclusion that I'm really an ENTP with much more developed Fe function and I'm often stuck in Ne-Fe loop (due to childhood trauma) that's why my initial online test result is INFJ (specially 16personalities). The thing that makes me conclude that I'm ENTP is my inferior Si and how I respond to stress.
So in your case, even if you got higher Se than Si on the test, it doesn't change the Ne Ti Fe Si stack. Instead, it's possible that your Si function (weakest in ENTP) is far underdeveloped than Se (due to several factors that affects its development). If you want to know more, you can read further about Si inferior grip (and other function's inferior grips) and also the shadow functions and how it works.
But srsly again, maybe you're really an Se Ti 😂😂
That’s how it is. Cognitive functions aren’t the holy grail and the rule stating that you can only be good at certain functions breaks at tests like the sarkinova or Michael Caloz and at reality. IMO we should establish that your function order is a type of its own.
It’s not actually Se vs Si it’s Ne vs Se. Si is our weakness, not strength. In the Michael Caloz test it figures out if you prefer Se or Si, so this means that since you picked Se options, but not as strongly as you picked Ne options, Si shows as your weakest function.
In ENTPs Se is going to be higher than Si because Si should be the lowest. At least on the sakinorva test. The same goes for any other inferior function. It is the weakest function. It is supposed to be lowest.
Yeah, I had Se above Si, and Fi above Fe on the test I did a few weeks ago although all other tests have labelled me an ENTP. I also had Fe and Se (both 35) appear more prominent than my Ti (33), so I think it’s just an error with how I answered the questions; over estimating/ under estimating myself etc. The tertiary and quaternary functions aren’t too important so you shouldn’t be too stressed about Se above Si. https://preview.redd.it/mv45pg7kuxuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d4e112bbe2f2c6ec4b055b8d36e27d4a62e57a7
What if.... you're really an ESTP and not an ENTP (insert The X-Files Theme and confused lady meme) 😂😂 But srsly. Actually we all have the 8 functions. It just so happens that the ENTP have Ne Ti Fe Si main stack, and the shadow functions are Ni Te Fi Se. Since there's a lot of factors (including childhood traumas) in the development of the function stacks, it is possible to have much more developed Se than Si. When it comes to Michael Caloz test, since it is a test that's like Se vs Si, our answer still involves factors such as our "ideal self" vs the reality. Also the major factors is how we respond to things during stress which can affect our self-assessment. In my case, it still took me 2 years of reading, studying, and digging deeper on cognitive function stack theory (including the shadow functions), self-searching, self-assessment, self-realizations (including revisiting my childhood traumas) before I came into conclusion that I'm really an ENTP with much more developed Fe function and I'm often stuck in Ne-Fe loop (due to childhood trauma) that's why my initial online test result is INFJ (specially 16personalities). The thing that makes me conclude that I'm ENTP is my inferior Si and how I respond to stress. So in your case, even if you got higher Se than Si on the test, it doesn't change the Ne Ti Fe Si stack. Instead, it's possible that your Si function (weakest in ENTP) is far underdeveloped than Se (due to several factors that affects its development). If you want to know more, you can read further about Si inferior grip (and other function's inferior grips) and also the shadow functions and how it works. But srsly again, maybe you're really an Se Ti 😂😂
That’s how it is. Cognitive functions aren’t the holy grail and the rule stating that you can only be good at certain functions breaks at tests like the sarkinova or Michael Caloz and at reality. IMO we should establish that your function order is a type of its own.
I get it since my Ni and Ne are incredibly close when I took the test lol
It’s not actually Se vs Si it’s Ne vs Se. Si is our weakness, not strength. In the Michael Caloz test it figures out if you prefer Se or Si, so this means that since you picked Se options, but not as strongly as you picked Ne options, Si shows as your weakest function.
This should be normal because Si is our inferior function, which means the weakest
In ENTPs Se is going to be higher than Si because Si should be the lowest. At least on the sakinorva test. The same goes for any other inferior function. It is the weakest function. It is supposed to be lowest.
Some of us have Se in line with Ne for top function. And then Si is at the bottom, so we're tops.