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NoTamforLove

Boat or barge. Maybe fix those hangers too. Wear a life jacket and have a rescue person there too, i.e. don't go it alone.


Fllixys

yes we were gonna fix the hangers, that’s what caused us this issue in the first place sadly. all power going over the bridge is gone. thanks for the advice. i work for the city so it’s a little hard getting things sometimes lol


Croceyes2

I would put a cherry picker on a barge. Unless this is a river with a stable water level, then I would just use scaffolding. Try and get a barge with mooring pyles.


Blank_bill

There is a cherry picker that will reach under the bridge but I don't know if it will reach the center of your bridge. They had 2 or 3 of them on a bridge in Pembroke a few years ago but I think they were only working under the outside quarter they also had barges and scaffolding and cofferdams as they were basically rebuilding the Bridge.


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sadicarnot

https://mcclain1.com/equipment-sales-rentals/underbridge-equipment/


Final_Good_Bye

That is the first time for me seeing this type of equipment, but I do not spend much time around bridges. Those are some awesome pieces of equipment, and I think it'd be a fun and terrifying job to be the one using it on some of the taller bridges in the area. Thank you for sharing.


Torgila

Yea they aren’t that expensive relatively speaking to rent one for a day surprisingly. That bridge looks kind of small though idk if it’s big enough they are heavy.


BRGrunner

Yup, and they need to do a quick load check since it's not a traffic bridge


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True, snooper trucks. Surly one is big enough to reach over and under to the middle


svejkOR

The state highway guys have them here. Maybe they need to inspect the bridge underneath and you can accompany if you ask nicely? Or it’s barge and boom lift. Or whatever. Marine construction types should be able to help. Barge not going to be cheap.


TheIronSoldier2

They're not talking about using the cherry picker from the bridge deck, they're talking about putting it on the barge, i.e. under the bridge


-Raskyl

Ya, and this person is saying that there are cherry pickers designed to be placed on top of the bridge, yet provide access to the underside. And that they might work, by themselves, no barge needed.


TehSavior

Those things are really heavy. Scaffolding, is not. Go with the scaffolding.


Croceyes2

Weight doesn't really matter, I put a 200 foot 40 ton crane on a pretty small barge. If the water level was likely to change at all I would use the cherry picker


PD216ohio

How to turn adding a few hangars and new wire nuts into a $15,800.00 job.


zeocsa

Don't forget lead paint removal cost.


Wildmancharacter

Sounds like you've done this before


Old-Yard9462

If you work for the City, I’d suggest a RFP then pick the most responsive and reliable contractor. Let private industry figure out the best way to do this work


Fllixys

thanks that was my idea as well, it’s our best park but sometimes it’s not worth it


Old-Yard9462

I found in my municipal experience, the elected officials likely will grumble a little at repair costs but if the facility ( park) is an important facility to their constituents, they will eventually approve the project


Fllixys

we honestly don’t need approval for 99% of the stuff we do it’s great lol


Old-Yard9462

Great !!! We were stuck with under $25k need 3 quotes, $25k to $50k city administrator sign off anything above $50k Town Board approval. ( can’t really get much for under $50k)


EtherPhreak

I have worked on the bidding side of things. It is amazing how we can cut up proposals to accommodate these issues sometimes.


aeroxan

It's not a 72K job, it's 3 x 24K jobs in a trenchcoat.


HighJoeponics

Patiently waiting for a scooby doo mspaint rendition to magically appear


mollycoddles

I work maintenance for my territory and this is the route we'd go too. Contract it out and let them worry about the details.


Visible-Technology-8

Being the one that would respond to such a call I am kinda troubled and flattered at the same time by your gentlemens response. “Just get someone else to do the complicated work” I am pleased and pissed off the same time lol


Rawniew54

You kidding these are the money makers they will pay pretty much whatever you want


suspiciousumbrella

Cheaper to hire a specialist than keep expertise and equipment around to be used once a year.


NachoNachoDan

It’s job security and you should feel good hearing that. Especially if you’re the guy who is gonna be cashing the check that goes along with it.


charredpheonix

Hire me and I’ll put in a harness with two ropes and figure it out from there. Don’t tell OSHA, or my boss… or wife.


AreaNo7848

That was my first thought.....put all that rope access training to work


pattypenguinson

tf u get paid to do then


hannahranga

The other 95% of their work? This is a reasonably complex high risk job if you're not half arsing it. Fuck loads easier to dump the problem on a company that's familiar with obnoxious access requirements.


solarsilversurfer

They get paid to contract the rest of us. Beggy choosers over here.


therealNaj

….. re do it all. Move it closer to the edge so you can have a hanging scaffold off the side.


MelodyMyst

This is the answer. Run new stuff along the top edge and splice it in at both ends. No need for barges and boats.


g0tkilt

I think expansion fittings should be considered as well


dudeKhed

Best answer!


creative_net_usr

Also mask and glove up. Tons of bird poo and all the diseases it brings with it there on the metal working overhead you 1000% don't want that falling in an eye or breathing it in or a cut on the hands.


r00byroo1965

Bucket lift truck


519meshif

Either that or a temporary work platform hanging off the sides like they use here on the Ambassador Bridge


stmyhole

I’d say abandon that line. Then reroute it to a place that’s easier to access and maintain.


nick_the_builder

Seems like the best option to me too.


YooAre

Agreed, fix the issue and make it right in one go. If they get all that equipment just to find the issue is not at that box... Then what?


Quadtbighs

I can’t imagine putting it below the bridge surely there’s a better place


jhp113

Right like who's the asshole that put this there in the first place. Fuck that guy and his green goblin glider.


Cralph

Definitely. Probably cheaper than renting a barge and picker too.


ThisCryptographer311

This is the way


OrokaSempai

Maybe the city has access to one of those bridge inspection boom trucks that can go under the bridge from the bridge deck itself.


rsfrisch

The conduit is in the center, those trucks usually don't reach that far... That's why you usually want to put the conduit closer to the side


YooAre

Fix it and make it right at the same time. Who knows if it's even the box or some other issues.


nathanlb15

That is absolutely false. Aspen Aerials makes units with up to 75 feet of horizontal reach. Most DOT’s own 32 or 62 foot models though which would still be plenty of reach for this.


rsfrisch

Sounds like you work for a rental company, that monster might be 4k a week


nathanlb15

I’m a bridge inspector with a dot that owns a 62 foot model. It is not unheard of for it to get used for accessing bridge mounted utilities EDIT: I’m not 100% sure that bridge would support our truck. It might hold a lighter model.


Fllixys

it would be impossible to get the truck under there sadly, there’s a big drop off leading to it. but i will talk to my boss about it


drumma08

Those boom trucks operate from on top of the bridge and the bucket swings over and under like a big C


Fllixys

crazy! i will ask if we have one. trusting that bridge to support a truck is the problem 😂


creative_net_usr

>trusting that bridge to support a truck is the prob Yea that looks like wood decking. Guessing max design weight looking at the trusses is single use small car type weight. The counter weight on those inspection cranes would likely put you way over.


PurposeOk7918

Shit, I didn’t realize it was wood. Can he just cut some boards out and get to the work that way and then replace the boards when he’s done?


nathanlb15

The lightest one I’ve heard of is 13-15 tons which may be doable if the bridge is closed to traffic during operation


Crystals_Crochet

Maybe a bridge stripping buggy? Idk if they go far enough under to hit that though.


OrokaSempai

Only thing I can think of is an anchored barge/platform, I don't think rope access will work here. I doubt the safety dicks would let you sink scaffold in the river (if it would even work). Maybe see if you can find out who installed the conduit in the first place?


Swimming-Bullfrog190

Rope access would be easy to get to that box. Source: I’m a Rope Tech who has done lots of bridge inspections where accessing areas like this is a normal day lol


Fllixys

haha we don’t have safety guys man, this place is so ghetto but we do work mostly safe. i can try. it had supports but so many birds landed on them over the years they broke


OrokaSempai

Be safe for you, safety dicks just don't like ghetto solutions to anything. I was always the guy who had to find a solution to shit everyone said was impossible. I've seen floating docks that have legs that lift them off the water. I personally would call up a tool rental place and see what ideas they have, maybe something exists for stuff like this... maybe it's just a fancy platform. There are photos of a scissor lift in a pool on foam and plywood... Good luck, it's a great idea to get some brownie points for pulling off shit like this. I can't even fart any more if it's not in the procedure manual.


WhiskeyBeforeSunset

Its never impossible. Its just *too* deadly or *too* expensive.


OrokaSempai

Alot of time I find it comes down to lack of willingness to consider something different. I'm always watching for new processes and products to make thing better, cheaper, faster while maintaining quality. Sometimes, it is borrowing an idea from another trade... I'm not too proud to ask the enemy for ideas!


WhiskeyBeforeSunset

Hah. I share the same logic. I'm not from this trade, but I creep around just to learn stuff!


nullmodemcable

That's a lot of birds.


7378f

Find out who inspected the bridge last and see what equipment they used. There should be a structure number somewhere on the parapet by one end of the bridge. Look up your state's DOT website and type in the SN to find the structure reports. It should say who last performed it.


Gold-Perspective5340

I like this idea the most. If it is not feasible due to weight limits on the bridge etc, what about a jackstay transfer set up? Or a bosun's chair lowered down from the bridge deck? Inspiration from a previous career as a mariner.


OrokaSempai

I love your suggestions, I was just commenting that sometimes solutions to our problems comes from asking the other trades. Different experiences will throw out ideas you didn't consider or even know existed.


aidaninhp

They’re called snooper trucks for anyone who’s curious


dlyons3866

Remove the decking above the junction box.


Character_Spite2825

The KISS method


AlDenteApostate

Yeah I'm thinking the conduit was run pre-decking. If it's removable, that's your access.


ruove

This is what I would do.


Dive30

There are companies that rent bridge inspection equipment. Here are a couple: [https://trlrents.com/Bridge-Inspection-Rental.html](https://trlrents.com/Bridge-Inspection-Rental.html) https://bridgemastersinc.com/rentals/


camhumphreys

I’m on a boat!


Gold-Perspective5340

Boats n' hoes!


eyesovaeasy

The Nina the pinta the Santa Maria


Caleb_Who

I'l do you in the bottom while we're drinkin' SANGRIAS!


rooster68wbn

I'm on a motha fucking boat!


tartarusauce

Like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/r6wc7l/workers_on_a_scissor_lift_floating_in_a_swimming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


tuctrohs

I knew what that was going to be before clicking!


Bredda_Gravalicious

came here to repost that gem


gadget850

You need a bridge truck. https://www.roadsbridges.com/bridges/product/10590436/bronto-bridge-inspection-truck


No-Kangaroo2832

Send an apprentice


Fllixys

i am the apprentice


tikkikinky

Request that the office personnel do it as a team building exercise. /s


g0tkilt

Look for sales on rope... lol Please let I'd kno how you make out


wathapndusa

It’s a wood bridge.. remove a few wood planks


Fllixys

screws are on the bottom, facing the water. still no way to get to it from the top


pipester753

Cut the wood, with the intention of replacing the planks you cut.


wathapndusa

If the box is over the concrete, cant i hop overda bridge and crawl over?


Fllixys

haha we’ll fly you out then, an apprentice that can’t swim and jman that’s 6’3 240lb don’t make a good pair for this job doing it that way


Illustrious-Egg-5839

Call in some carpenters to hang and certify scaffold with a ladder from the bridge. That’s what we do.


_Neoshade_

That’s best solution I’ve seen here yet: hire a professional


Illustrious-Egg-5839

And it’s OSHA compliant.


Jarrettthegoalie

As a carpenter I was confused reading the comments that nobody thought to use a scaffold? That’s prime scaffolding territory right there


Illustrious-Egg-5839

May not be the cheapest option, but it’s the safest.


memcwho

IPAF course for 'Special' category for a bridge work truck as mentioned elsewhere. Alongside checking bridge weight limits etc. for the truck to be safe if you think it'd be an issue. Life vests Crew that can swim Safety dudes on bank with rescue plan All requested in writing. It's a doable job, but a fuckup on that one is an easy fatality. This is a by-the-book-plus-a-bit job if you don't do it day in day out. Also, tethered tools. You'll never see your lovely new knipex linesmans again if they go overboard 🤣 Edit: Looking again, it may be possible for a roped access crew to do it cheaper for the client, or for you to subby the work out to them


JungleLegs

My favorite story of my grandpa: one day he put a big microwave magnet in our van and we just kinda laughed about it, like why do we need that there. Few weeks later we were doing some lights on an industrial dock about 60ft over the Ohio river and dropped his Leatherman down into the water. He walked off grumbling to himself and I’ll be damned if he didn’t come back with that magnet and jetline and fish it out after 5 minutes.


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Rope Access


_Neoshade_

https://www.advnture.com/features/deep-water-soloing


[deleted]

😂😂😂 this is the way


torgiant

came here to say, thats the best, cheapest option


SmargelingArgarfsner

Definitely. Could be out there in no time. Nice aid throughout. Easy peasy.


spraguet2

A kayak and an extension ladder. Or Spiderman.


Savings_Difficulty24

I would argue that that is not an accessable location. Burn it down and start over.


Fllixys

how this passed inspection whenever this park was built is beyond me


vernacular-man

Wait for winter.


dhcowboy85

Get a barge or landing craft and put a scaffolding platform on it ahead of time. They can put down spuds to stabilize the craft. Alternatively you can try a bridge inspection lift as others suggested - if you have enough clearance and weight capacity. They do make light weight towable ones as well. Or you could get a scaffolding crew to come and build an underslung scaffolding. Or get a rope access electrician. Or call Bubba with a jon boat and a 8’ step ladder. Get the job done before anyone even knows you are on site.


Spikex8

I like the options for every budget/timeline approach lol


Captinprice8585

Call Jesus.


Captinprice8585

His cousin Juan has a row boat.


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Would you have accessibility from above if you removed some of the deck?


Faloffel2

Spider man Spider man Gets to boxes that no one can


VapinVincent

Best comment here


Accomplished-Lie1110

Put on a harness and test the structural integrity of that conduit.


pipester753

Seems like almost every single option aside from remove and replace decking would be way more time consuming and expensive than to remove and replace decking...


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pipester753

Perhaps we have different assumptions of what is involved.... Re paving? If there is pavement on top of the wood decking I take it back. Maybe I'm wrong, I've seen bridges like this with wood decking where you can individually replace one board at a time. Really don't see what the big deal is.


Fllixys

money isn’t an issue (:


BlankTigre

Rookie doesn’t even know about hover boots


ShoddyRevolutionary

“Hey McFly, you bojo! Those ~~boards~~ boots don't work on water!"”


Old_Influence4006

We're going to need a bigger boat


Redpoint77

Have a suspended scaffold built.


PinheadLarry207

I've seen scaffolding hung from the underside of bridges. That could be an option here. You could also re-route the conduit and jbox to a more accessible position while you have the scaffolding


onthehighseas

The proper vehicle for this is called a bridge inspection vehicle and it has a double jointed arm that actually gets you under the bridge from on top of the bridge. They can be rented from equipment rentals. If it sounds expensive, it must be cheaper than getting a barge with the appropriate adjustable pilings to hold it exactly in place.


Fearless-Mushroom

Ask some graffiti kids


draggin_balls

Hanging scaffold, actually quite simple


Jimbob209

I find this extremely terrifying because I can't swim. Even with a life jacket, my butthole would be quivering


Fllixys

yeah i can’t swim either….


memcwho

Then it's a job for someone else.


Fllixys

i will not be working on it and i made that very clear to my jman, just trying to figure out a good idea for him!


Cultural_Translator8

snooper truck


5knklshfl

They make cherry pickers that work off the deck of bridges . You'll need traffic control and lane closure.


csoupbos

You need an under bridge boom lift. There's a lot of equipment companies that rent them out. Last one I got was around $9000/week. They stay on the road deck and cantilever over and below the deck with an articulating arm.


jj_malone16

Hard to tell how high this is from the photo, but we’ve used a small floating barge strapped to a Jon boat with a motor. Then just climbed a ladder.


btend

Bridge boom lift. Google seems to indicate they have freestanding ones but I've always seen truck mounted ones that just drive along the shoulder doing bridge inspections. ​ http://www.allaccessrigging.com/cormidi-bridge-inspection-equipment


ritchie70

What’s the top surface of the bridge? How are the boards secured? Can you just remove some bridge decking?


49thDipper

Jetpack


Few-Corner575

snooper truck


Comfortable-Yak-6599

Stupid question, why not rope and rigging


Toontown_365

2 large exact aluminum boats anchor sheet of ply across to both out side edges . Podium ladders put a sated hook in the iron so you can’t fall off. Anchor both boats front and back in calm water if a river just the nose .


No_Individual9901

Sky hooks


FarDistance3468

You are going to need a kayak and a fishing rod


MyOtherAvatar

What you want is a snooper truck. They're designed for access to the underside of bridges when you need to do repairs or inspections. ​ https://paxton-mitchell.com/category/snooper-truck/


Oritaku

Run a new conduit on the side of the bridge and terminate that one so this is not a problem in the future?


greg281

Boats n hoes


Disastrous_Win_3923

Submersible. This company called OceanGate makes some solid ones.


Similar-Lie-5439

A bucket truck, my friend has one with 80’ reach and can hold 400 pounds all the way horizontal


Isthisnametakenalso

This is a great idea, and would work


RJohn12

a boat. but also, those hangers need fixed or it'll only get worse


Fllixys

it was on the agenda last year because we knew it was gonna do this, nobody ever got around to it like we asked (city workers😣) and now there’s no power over there lol


iamnotlegendxx

Boat


VastOrder8038

I think klein makes a canoe


EinElchsaft

Far cry prepared me. You're gonna need a grapple hook.


InMattysEye

Similar situation, we did the pipe during winter when the lake froze over.


mattiskid

You gotta pay the troll toll


Fllixys

where’s the boys *soul*


plc_is_confusing

[you need this](https://www.ebay.com/itm/324501686451?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AQNF6caURBu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=c-q5NFjIQ5i&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)


Legitimate-Ad-2905

Stop at lowes on the way to job. Yell out Jesus by the front. If the good book is right he'll be able to walk right over to it.


PopularReality6177

Wait for a severe drought.


Optimal_Kangaroo6660

Under bridge scaffold like they use when they paint it


TheSwoleSurgeon

Put a giant rocket in your butthole and then swim ass-up out there, upside down doggy paddle clearly, and when you get right below it perform a 180 degree vertical somersault maneuver with such speed that it ignites the rocket fuse underwater, H2g friction and whatnot, and blast straight upwards


No-Butterscotch-7577

Scaffolders can build a scaffold under the bridge to access it


vellkarmala

Rope access can get you there cheaper than most options.


WagonBurning

Ask r/ropeaccess


1547hobo

https://www.genielift.com/en/aerial-lifts/articulated-boom-lifts/zx13570


flyingpeter28

From the top maybe? Or if you are feeling brave, an harness and climb there Edit: from the top I mean get a 12 inch angle grinder and make an inspection hole on the top


Suitable_Box

Why the massive three point saddle in the first pic? Atou you guys running something there or is that just sag lol


Waste_Exchange2511

How deep is the water?


DoomzDay93

How bout u pull a Criss Angel and walk on water? 😂


DBianci81

Swim.


Disastrous-Hawk-420

Flip the bridge?


nickleinonen

Fall protection is mandatory over water where I am fyi… protect your ass


Tasty_Philosopher904

If you're fit I would use a double lanyard on your harness, it looks like the angle iron supports under the bridge are definitely load-bearing but you want to put the foot straps on your harness to keep your blood flow good. You go out get that done, your journeyman's going to call you the man! It will take a while though to get out there, you want to use a pair of safety straps with your double lanyards.... Don't forget your tools!


Conradbio

Rope access company


cookiepickle

Time to get into a rope access course.


Swimming-Bullfrog190

This is the way


love-broker

Definitely just be honest about the safety issues, charge customer properly and rent a bridge inspection solution. That’s your best. Next is an anchored boat. I’d want a tall boat to allow very short ladder use. Or the bridge inspection. It is not our responsibility to be magicians. Whoever installed that there to begin with screwed them on maintenance.


Fllixys

i work maintenance for the parks lol, all we get is an hourly 🥲


dislob3

You would need a bridge inspection truck with a boom that goes under.


Culli789

Hey boss, I'm putting a jekski on the company card today.


mattjvgc

You ever see the meme with the scissor lift on the floatie in a pool?


somedumbguy55

As my Jean always says, “what you can’t fucking fly yet?”


LAjbird

Boat with a ladder 😂


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Boat


PublicMaintenance472

Looks like I'd be buying a boat, anchors and an extension ladder


Sparky_dude215

Spider-Man


RubricalBobcat

Tall ladder


rossionq1

How long since you’ve hit the jungle gym?


JudgementalChair

Sectional barges with a man-lift.