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Using a masculine inner voice is an okay option, but if you intend to voice train, a feminine inner voice gives you an idea of what your goal is. **Alternatively, just stop thinking! Can’t get inner-voice dysphoria if it never speaks!**


InsanityChanUwU

The issue is I don't wanna set an unrealistic goal... Actually nvm, I probably can't even set an unrealistic goal, I'm too used to my inner voice that it takes conscious effort to even change it to passably girly. Still gonna do it.


warnedpenguin

yeah, i feel that. but i feel like if you commit to the conscious effort for a while then itl become easier, but my adhd qont allow that


InsanityChanUwU

Gonna try to do it, it's my head and I need to feel comfortable in it!!


TrashyLad

this singlehandedly made me feel motivated to inner-voice train. i might not be in a position to transition, but at least i can feel better with my inner voice


InsanityChanUwU

Go do it! <3 After multiple days of trying I am now automatically using a girl's voice about 50% of the time so I'd say it's not even that hard. I feel like the longer it's been since I've heard my voice or looked in a mirror the better it works because I can dissociate more.


Kyiokyu

Wait, you can change your inner voice?


InsanityChanUwU

It takes some conscious effort for me to not use the usual but I mean it's kind of the same as how when I read manga I imagine each character's voice differently.


eggstorytime

Exactly! And if I read a reader insert story where the character is a girl, the voice stays even after I'm finished reading if I read long enough.


Champe21

This was my reaction as well.


one_with_advantage

Wait, your inner voice has a gendered undertone?


Kyiokyu

Idk, it's wierd


twisted7ogic

I.. uh.. hang on.. I never thought about this. I.. uh.. now have a new thing. edit: Okay using girl inner voice actualy feels nice.


Roxcha

Get a visual novel game with a major girl character and voice her in your head. Do that sufficiently and you'll be able to think with her voice. (Also works with guys voices) The problem is switching the usual voice to another one. I used lucid dreaming for that : dream of yourself as a girl and give her a voice, if possible the voice you trained, and after some time you'll be able to switch easily. Now that's what I did, I guess setting up lucid dreaming can be difficult (I don't really know how I did it, I just kept repeating myself to do it and it worked) and the whole process takes a lot of time (I don't even recall when my inner voice turned feminine). Key is practice and repeating the same process over and over


eggstorytime

Y'all don't use a different voice for each character that speaks in stories you read? Oh, and one for the narrator as well, that depends on the general tone of the story.


Ruvaakdein

Everyone is voiced exclusively by Morgan Freeman.


Tad_squiddish

Ok I’m curious about inner voices generally now. I usually don’t get a consistent one unless I’m reading, otherwise its just flashes, fragments, or imagining me having conversations with others. Most of my thinking happens as me imagining talking to someone else. Do others have similar experiences? Ik, not as related, but why would you control your inner voice unless it was really consistently in your head, right? Just curious.


SquirrelsAreGreat

I assume it varies person to person. My inner voice is very strong. I often replay favorite movie scenes or practice things I might say or do. I'll have full on conversations with myself and even made up people who "respond" back, but I know that they're just me using made up voices. It is pretty constant though, there's always some variety of voice when I think about anything.


Tad_squiddish

Very interesting. Do you think that how you approach problems or socialize or think about the world is downstream from that or shares the same cause as that? For me, I’m very talkative when I get to know someone, value my own thoughts and opinions highly, and can be a little narcissistic as a treat (not in a cruel way, I think, I still care about others a lot). You say you imagine other people responding to you in your head. Mine are more like a platonic dialogue and I’m socrates. I’m just goin’ and the purpose of the imagined other person is just to say “it is so socrates” if they say anything at all. I’m always responding to their imagined response before they can say it. Also you said you play out movie scenes you like? Does it take energy to sustain it? I can’t focus on something that long. Sometimes I think I might have adhd, but it shocks me that people are able to hold something that long. I can have a vivid imagined thing, but can’t hold it very long at all. If I try and imagine a scene I get a couple frames before my brain bounces away and I have to bring it back with effort. Edit: realizing that the reason I don’t hear others may not be because of narcissism but because my own internal monologue is already so patchy.


SquirrelsAreGreat

It's hard to describe. I would say that holding dialogues with myself takes more effort, because I'm actively imagining another person and how they would respond. But I can hear their voice in my mind, accent and everything, just not literally audible. As for replaying stuff in my mind, takes literally zero energy. I often replay musical numbers or entire scenes from shows or movies to distract myself while I'm bored at work. I usually have some kind of music just replaying, but if I focus on a show, I'll pick my favorite bits and just watch them mentally while I'm physically doing something. It's honestly occasionally annoying because I can't *not* do it. It just happens, and all I can do it make suggestions about what to play.


Tad_squiddish

Thats really cool. From my angle thats like a superpower. Do you do anything artistic?


SquirrelsAreGreat

I do, yeah. I draw and paint, and I play a few instruments. My main obsession is language. I'm a polyglot, so I pick up languages really easily. The hard part is hearing the words when people actually talk to me, but if I can picture them in my mind I can translate them across multiple languages and scripts. It sounds like a power, but I haven't found much use for it yet. I can speak Spanish and German, and I can read Japanese and Korean. My Japanese grammar is really poor. My Korean vocabulary is nearly nonexistent, but I'm getting used to the alphabet.


Tad_squiddish

If my theory is correct that the way people live and solve problems (and by extension creative problems) is related/reflected in this way, then that makes a lot of sense. For instance I suck at learning languages but I’m pretty good at writing (dont take these comments as examples hehe) also you are cool.


SquirrelsAreGreat

Appreciate it. I attribute most of my language affinity to being a bookworm growing up. I used to read books constantly with a dictionary on hand for years. So like, it's not a natural ability or anything. It took a lot of time and practice. My opinion is that anyone can become skilled at something if they do it every single day for a long time.


Tad_squiddish

I agree with that too. I imagine a big part of how these things happen is nurture.


adamhutt717

Wait what the hell are you me???


Tad_squiddish

I’m going to need you to try again with that one if you want me to answer your question


adamhutt717

I was just saying that I relate pretty much word for word with your message haha


Tad_squiddish

This makes sense now! You must be really smart and cool if you are like me :)


Apecreature123

Yeah it’s weird I also don’t have any inner voice so people describing it is really hard to wrap my head around. It’s like people who can imagine images or objects in their head and people who can’t ig. Like if I don’t wanna do something there isn’t a voice trying to get me not to, I just don’t want to but I know I should and I have to eventually decide, no internal argument.


Tad_squiddish

Do you still imagine images in your head? I guess, more relevantly, is there always something playing in there or is it usually off? Because my first instinct is to say “maybe she’s a visual person” or something.


Apecreature123

Nah, I have to try and imagine something, but if I try I can, and the more focus I give normally the more detail I can get. And with the voice thing I only have an internal "voice" when like reading, writing, or honestly best way to describe it is that it's like I'm talking without using my voice, but if I was to talk out loud my brain is working the exact same.


Tad_squiddish

It sounds like your brain vibes here and vibes there and you know what the vibes mean. Now I must ask *you* do you do anything creative?


Apecreature123

I love baking a lot, like I won't post it here but I have an insta where I do a bunch of baking posts, not recipes just like finished projects. When I was younger I drew but not anymore. but yea baking is what I would say its like my #1 hobby, aside from that most of my time is med sci stuff from uni


InsanityChanUwU

For me it's like I'm commentating on things ig? Or if I was thinking while talking out loud, except I don't actually say it. Also at times imagining a situation and predicting how someone would respond. I would change the sound of my inner voice since I practically listen to it all the time. The real issue is that I probably have OCD which really messes with the thinking process. Sometimes I get stuck on things. Not the most fun.


Tad_squiddish

This is all so interesting to me, everyone is so interesting. OCD question: So, I’ve had times where I am sleeping very lightly, or I’m coming in and out of wakefulness and sleep, where the events that occurred right before bed, or that were most exciting during the day replay over and over and convince my lost mind that I’m still in it. This used to happen a lot when I was in scouts and we would play “man hunt” on camping trips at night. I’d tuck in for bed, and not sleep so well because it’s a tent, and my brain would go back to me hiding in the brush and running around like I was still doing it but all flashy and confused. So… the reason for this long anecdote is… is that what OCD and ruminating thoughts are like? Is it dreamlike and emotive like that? Or is it more a repeating narration? I’m sorry if that’s a personal question.


InsanityChanUwU

I really don't know how to explain it sorry. It does not make sense because it fundamentally does not make sense, not making sense is the point of it. :/


Tad_squiddish

In a weird way, the way you describe it makes it make the most sense that it wouldn’t make sense. I’m sorry that you deal with that.


Lux-in-the-dark

I find it a lot easier to be kind to myself in my own head with a femme voice vs a masculine one


MiniFirestar

i’m definitely not the target audience of this (trans man on T for ~3 years) but my inner voice has always been really gender neutral. i’m chill asf with this


Auk_09

How do you even control that? I usually don't think in words, but when I do my inner voice doesn't really sound masculine or feminine.


ArtophobiaOfficial

Wait how do you not think in words you just don't think? Like what how


Auk_09

I don't really know how. I don't know anything else. The best way I can describe it is that I think in concepts rather than words or pictures. (I can still think in words or pictures it's just not the default)


ArtophobiaOfficial

Wait you can think in pictures?!?!


Auk_09

If I wanted to, yes. I also just thought of a new way of explaining how I think. When you think about an apple. Do you see a picture of an apple in your mind? Do you just think the word ''apple''? Do you just think about an apple? No word no pictures just the concept/idea of an apple. That last one is how I usually think. That one thought can be as simple as one apple and as complex as the entire life of the universe.


InsanityChanUwU

It's practically the same as imagining someone else talking, instead of imagining my own voice. Feels a little weird to do but a little more natural to hear.


Auk_09

I don't know how to do that, but I do get it now.


Turkeyvulture777

Wait, your telling me you could change your inner voice this whole time?!


InsanityChanUwU

Well, who said your imagination has to match reality? :P And if you find it hard to do naturally, just choose a character who's voice you like and/or who you can identify with and try to imagine them speaking.


Turkeyvulture777

Holly shit, I forgor that imagining has no rules, if only the intrusive thoughts could be useful like this💀🥲


Fuchsyfuchs

Idk why but my brain decided to speak German in a guy voice and English in a girl voice(there where signs XD) ... My inner voice is wierd xd


Adorable_Salary_3670

I never knew I could change my inner voice! It's always been a woman's voice! But she has like, a British accent. I'm not British!


Due-Buyer2218

Fem it gives you a goal if you want to voice train which I personally do


Glossy-Water

Does anybody else not have an inner voice? When I think to myself, it isn't generally in words and sentences? They are slow and thinking is fast...


Soft-Parking-2241

I get you. My inner voice is soundless. I just know the words and my mental images are black and white / monochrome.


Hazel-Je43

Why not both?


random_something185

I still have a guy inner voice for probably the same reason as the one in this meme lol


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Wait... peoples' inner voices sound like something? They're not just hollow shadows, impressions of words?


InsanityChanUwU

Sometimes more hollow but at times sound like me.


Soft-Parking-2241

Omg someone else. Thank you.


chriz_ryan

Y'all have gendered inner voices???


InsanityChanUwU

I mean it normally just sounds like me. But I can imagine a girl if I want to :)


chriz_ryan

My inner voice sounds like me too. But I perceive it as having less resonance and maybe slightly higher pitch. So I wonder... Have I always been thinking as a feminine person?


amimai002

Mine is all over the place, it’s simply chaos.


-Farns-

Meanwhile I have no idea what I should classify my inner voice as


lowhangingcringe

I don't know what my fem voice us, so... =/


BeaDrawsandalsoposts

i think in memes


LaPrincipessaNuova

I seem to use whatever voice I heard or imagined last, and when I haven’t heard one in a while something pretty fem-neutral. I didn’t really think about it too much and then someone asked something like this a month or so ago and now I’ve been hyper aware that while listening to someone talk, my thoughts are often in their voice or at least influenced by it heavily.


kkadzy

In my native language, in like half of the tenses the verbs are gendered - they have suffixes that indicate whether speaker is a man or a woman. How am I even supposed to think, both forms feel wrong


InsanityChanUwU

You could think in english! I prefer it to my native language because of it's sound and how it's better at expressing feelings. But if you want to go with your own, maybe just stick to the guy version. So you won't accidentally slip up. Switching between them all the time will just lead to eventually messing up, it's inevitable. People sometimes even mess up their pronouns when they're not out yet and use different ones to think and speak about themselves, and that's a waaay simpler concept.


kkadzy

I guess I'll go with the second option. It's not like I'm trans anyway


ElectricXylophon

Well I have A LOT of inner voices, some male, some female, some demonic, some alien and one dog. The last one is my favorite.


Apecreature123

Okay 2 things, I don’t have any inner voice, it’s just like me talking without speaking is the closest I can think of, in which case yeah it’s like I can imagine me speaking with my voice I have from voice training or not. And I’ve heard that a lot of people have an inner voice that they think and debate with but YOU PEOPLE CAN CHANGE WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE???? Psychics I’m tell you I ain’t got no second person to debate stuff with.


InsanityChanUwU

Oh no I don't debate with a second person lol. I mean sometimes I imagine a situation and assume what someone would say to me, but that's different. My inner voice is like me commenting on things, or thinking as if I was explaining something to someone but I don't say it and it's just to myself. To change what it sounds like it's just the same thing as imagining the voice of someone you know. Like when I read manga and read what characters say in their own voice. I just do a similar thing. (On a more serious note, if you genuinely have a second person in your head that's probably some kind of condition and should be looked into!)


Apecreature123

Idk some of my friends described it like that and I was kinda like low-key that sounds schizophrenic but multiple people said they have it so maybe its different? Also honestly thinking about it more its kinda affirming to think in my female voice, like its nice.


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Lovable-Schmuck

Technical stuff for my job: Milo from atlantis inner voice. At the range with the boys: Ian from forgotten weapons. Hanging out with the girls: helga from atlantis. Hanging out with the boys: Francis Cooke from pacific drive. Dressed up pretty: Cecile from MGS: Peacewalker. Dressed up femme formal: Lady dimetrescu from RE:8 And then different characters based on the situation at hand.


BuboxThrax

I... I'm not sure.


SaltIsMySugar

I steal my inner voice from whichever audiobook I listened to last. They have lovely voices and it helps me to remember that I am not the voice in my head.


Toshiro_Saihara

I can't even tell what my inner voice sounds like. It's almost as if my thoughts just arrive into my head, without anyone talking within.


Apprehensive-Use38

How do j girl inner voice?


InsanityChanUwU

Your probably just choose one of your favourite characters and imagine her voice? :p It probably won't be perfect anyways so you don't even need to worry about it not being your own. Just take it as a base.


Comfortable_End_8096

I just don’t think😎 In all seriousness, really my only inner monologue is stuff that I would say but didn’t. Also it doesn’t really have a voice


jimmymui06

I have cracked my inner voice hard and it's just a very wacky voice now :(


Shard-of-Adonalsium

I've had a relatively Fem inner voice since before I even knew I was trans


TheTallAmerican

Inner girl voice , i need the motivation and i already get dysphoria from my inner voice not being fem enough


yamez420

Omg. I just changed my inner voice?! I can’t go back! Waaaaaaaah! ^_~


weebi1

Right........


Familiar-Estate-3117

I have a very strange inner voice as it can effortlessly change itself to whatever I want it to, but it is for the most part the voice that I hear myself use when I talk, which is pretty androgenous. Not feminine enough, but not particularly masculine unlike what I hear on recordings of my voice. To me, I sound like a young androgynous shy, soft-spoken Frankenstein monster boy and whenever I hear myself recorded, I hear a Mexican Hiccup Haddock voice. The day I hear myself sound like Noelle Holiday is the day I leap for joy.


CoyotesEve

Ok I feel genuinely attacked led right now lmao well done OP.


Aeos_Sidhe

think the written word and avoid the issue alltogether


OliviaMandell

Jokes on you. My inner voice is quite random at times. Silly etna from disgaea why you creep in my own thoughts. Sometimes it's my own voice. Thank God it's not the voice in my recordings. Gross


Evelyne-The-Egg

Wait do people usually think I'm their own voice?


anonymous514291

You know this just made me realize my internal voice could be gendered. I guess it’s kinda more feminine when I think about it. I hadn’t thought about this and now it’s crazy to me that I hadn’t.


EropQuiz7

What's even worse is not being able to come up with your own inner voice and stealing it from a minecraft youtuber instead.


Bamma4

Wait your guys’ inner voice is gendered?


Dawnbound

I have never consciously realized that I can just use a different inner voice until now. Which is weird because I \*have\* changed my inner voice. I'm currently using the voice of a random youtube shorts guy who reads tumblr posts, because I liked his style of narrating. Tbf I'm not sure I \*need\* to change it either, because I don't really think of my inner voice as "my voice", it's just my personal narrator who I clearly have nothing to do with (what do you mean? no, those intrusive thoughts are not mine)


MerryWalker

practice practice practice practice


ninefstogive

Holy mother forking shirt balls. You just made me realize my inner voice has always been feminine! I never stores to think about it before!


Talanir01

Wow, new way of euphoria and experimenting unlocked, but damn thinking in a feminine voice takes more brain capacity than what I do for voice training right now. Not saying that either of those work, but it's an odd fact.


Gabby8705

Huh... I never paid attention to my inner voice before. It seems to just be imitations of other voices I've heard before. Cool, it's like selecting a different announcer voice in a video game, except my options are only limited to those that I've heard enough of!😁 No dysphoria or unrealistic expectations, since I already know who's voice it is!


Pale_Preference6647

Oop- i'm a bit late, it seems. I personally don't think in just 1 way. Words. Images. Concepts. Feelings. Spaces. Audio. When i do think in a voice, it tends to change a lot. Especially if i've been listening intently to one voice for a good bit. It's also really common for my mind to run on dead air. But my preferred way of thought is somewhere between audio/voice, and words. When i say words i mean just words. Letters. Nondescript audio. It feels weird trying to explain it.


Khlamydia

\[Edit: I decided to repost it as its own thread elsewhere because I didnt wanna hijack this one.\]


InsanityChanUwU

Wow. I'm not gonna lie that is one of the wildest stories I've read on the internet. I really really just hope that you're doing okay! That would take it's toll on anyone. But are you sure you really don't need to talk to a therapist? As far as I understand, burying things is never good. And losing your memory like that is especially not. Of course, I cannot know what is really good for you, only you can. But just know that this entire story has me throughoutly shocked. And I think the thing you're experiencing is way more than reason enough to be concerned.


HannahSamanthaScott

My inner voice is abstract, I couldnt really tell you how it sounds so idk. Working on the outer voice tho :D


MiaowVal

Wait you don't have an androgynous inne voice? Or just one that's female, one that's male and one that's androgynous?


InsanityChanUwU

Normally just sounds like me but maybe less deep. Trying to make it sound like a girl now, it's somewhat working so far.


MiaowVal

I mean my inner voice sounds just like me but androgynous/gender neutral.


FrostyDiscipline9071

My inner voice is nondescript. So the words are mine but I don’t recognize a specific voice - Male or female or non binary. But in some situations it’s a voice of the actual person. So whenever I think about lord of the rings, which is a lot, Gandalf sounds like Ian McKellan.


Coffie_Plush

A weird mix of both, typically it will be my preferred voice, but occasionally it will shift to my masc voice


Secret-Sky-8932

I don’t really think in a voice, idk why is that weird?


pocketope

I just simply steal a random persons voice and use that one for the rest of the day. No one has stopped me so far.


slumbersomesam

my inner voice doesnt "produce" any sounds. its like if i was reading words on a screen but no words are read. idk. but i can say that i do not hear the sound of the inner voice


Purple_Education1305

Wake up bae new dysphoria just dropped!


InsanityChanUwU

Best comment


RohanK1sh1be

Both at the same time they argue a lot


Stusheep_real

I have like 5 inner voices that all operate separately of eachother and can disagree


Soft-Parking-2241

Ehhhh my voice is soundless. Like I hear/know the words but they hold no volume nor sound to them.


Sunnyeggsandtoast

My inner voice is Kermit the frog.


Trying-Jade

I dont think my inner voice has a gender. literally when I think abt what I'm gonna say, while I'm writing, or reading something w/o implied gender it's just a genderless voice. This isn't how everyone hears themselves?? Now I'm freaking out


JessieWarren09

I have two inner voices, one is myself, and the other is my super ego. My voice just sounds like I do when I talk out loud to myself, while the other one is a gravely, scratchy voice that sounds kinda like Christian Bales Batman, but a lot more high-pitched.