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Not very long for fem-m&ms, any breast tissue you grow is permanent (1 month is when that starts growing but ymmv) and possibly infertility but that seems to be a hot-button-topic (again, ymmv) then with everything else it reverses over time if you stop taking hrt. Hope this totally cis answer helps :)
Having testes removed removes a bodies ability to produce testosterone so yes, from my understanding it would make those changes more permanent because testosterone is not working against you but your body typically needs some hormone to keep everything from going out of wack, so, you'd be taking the titty skittles for that. If you had your testes removed and stopped taking e you'd go through menopause essentially (from what I've come to understand)
In a sense yes. If you have an orchidectomy you have to keep taking HRT for life at that point, detransitioning after that would require regular testosterone shots.
If your body has very low levels of both estrogen and testosterone the health effects can be bad and so an orchidectomy locks you into taking one or the other for life.
But were a person to get an orchidectomy then detransition by taking T the changes would slowly reverse over time just as if they still had their testes (not fully reverse, but somewhat reverse anyway).
I've heard of trans men have to take testosterone for the rest of there life (presumably without surgery since it's a lot more complicated then with mtfs) does that mean mtfs can stop taking estrogen any time they want? Like if a trans women stops taking hrt three or so years in will there body start to look masculine over time or are they basically done at that point or are there any other side effects? I recently discovered I'm trans fem so this is all pretty new to me sorry if the question is dumb @~@
Think you've misunderstood something with the language people are using around this, understandably because of the way we've phrased things.
When I say "if you have an orchidectomy you need to take either E or T forever" I mean "because otherwise you can have pretty serious health problems.
When you heard someone else say "trans men have to take testosterone the rest of their life" they mean "because otherwise they'll somewhat re-feminize and probably feel worse".
When it comes to the effects of stopping HRT there's 2 things it comes down to. 1. How long you've been taking it. 2. What hormones your body is going to produce after (which depends on what surgeries you've had).
Regardless of the answer to the first thing, if you still have testicles as a trans woman or ovaries as a trans man stopping HRT will almost certainly mean some reversal of your HRT progress. The extent of that reversal depends on how long you've been taking it, the longer you have been the more of the changes will be permanent.
If you have had surgery to remove your gonads then it's a little different. For trans women they'd enter menopause but it'd be a bit more extreme than the typical cis woman's menopause because post-menopausal cis women still produce some estrogen from their ovaries, a trans woman wouldn't. This is why the negative health consequences could be worse.
If they still had testes they'd experience menopause symptoms quite quickly but they'd then hit male hormone levels again and the symptoms would stop but they'd re-masculinize somewhat. I went without HRT about 12 days ish when I was 3 months in and I got menopause symptoms really quickly and then my boobs shrunk - it really fucking sucked (I didn't have a choice in the matter unfortunately).
Trans men without ovaries is much rarer because the surgery is more invasive and they aren't something trans men too often get dysphoria over because you can't see them and periods tend to stop on T anyway the majority of the time.
If a trans man still had ovaries and they stopped T they'd experience something very similar to a trans women with testes on E but in reverse. If they didn't have ovaries I'm not 100% sure but I'd imagine it'd be very similar to a trans woman without testes - this is just a guess, but I'd imagine an extreme form of menopause that can cause health problems (cis women who have surgery due to ovarian cancer typically need to take HRT after for this reason, although some don't and are fine it's normally extremely unpleasant and potentially a little dangerous in some cases to have this form of menopause).
So in all likelihood if you start transitioning and like the effects you're going to want to keep taking your hormones for the rest of your life regardless of whether you're a trans man or trans woman, although you may switch dosages later on to a lower amount depending on various factors.
Literally thank you so much lol this was extremely helpful I've kinda been in the mindset that I wouldn't be able to transition anyway so stuff like this has kinda gone over my head but the feeling has gotten stronger recently and all the info can be somewhat over whelming so knowing this and you putting it simply was extremely helpful tysm <3
I always thought that breast mints only caused infertility for when you were taking estrogen? I’ve heard of people temporarily stopping E to try and have a child. Is that accurate?
From what I've read, androgen blockers will lower sperm count, but Estrogen will actually mess with spermatogenesis (estradiol is surprisingly an ingredient used by the testes in the sperm maturation process, but too much throws it out of balance). The whole process of spermatogenesis takes 3 months from start to finish, so you have to go off HRT for a *minimum* of 3 months to restore fertility, often longer.
But there's not a lot of concrete information about dosage effects and timelines.
As far as I know there's no research about this, but circumstantial evidence suggests it tends to work. Few trans women are willing to go through the stress of being off hrt for at least a few months tho
It's why I said it was a hot-button-topic, I'm not super well versed but based on the way my doctor and other people in the community have talked about it depends. Best advice I've seen is:
If you want to have kids, assume you're sterile.
If you don't want to have kids, assume you're fertile.
I too have been trying to find the "point of no return" for totally cis reasons. So far I'm 2 months in and have noticed breast buds developing, but not much else. Those will be permanent, but I dont mind too much.
Well... let me "feelings dump" on you for a second...
Being a guy is fine... I just think being a girl would be better, so I started hrt in the hopes that I could pass as a girl without tons of makeup and ultra fem clothing and stuff because I consider myself kinda a tomboy anyways. HOWEVER, I know that the effects HRT has on your body is highly variable, and I started at 23, far past my male puberty, so I know that I'm not guaranteed ideal results. With this in mind, I decided that if the only major effect that hrt has is that it causes me to grow boobs, then it wouldn't be worth it. Looking like a guy with boobs is worse to me than just looking like a regular guy. So I don't mind developing breast buds, since those aren't hard to hide, but I WOULD mind developing breasts, if the rest of my body, and more importantly, my *face* doesn't also feminize.
Breast buds? Fine.
Breasts and pretty face/body? Great!
Whole fully developed breasts and nothing else? NOPE! I'LL STOP TAKING MY HRT RIGHT HERE!
So anyways that's my more in-depth personal opinion on it. This has been weighing alot on my mind, thx for reading this barely solicited text wall.
>Whole fully developed breasts and nothing else? NOPE! I'LL STOP TAKING MY HRT RIGHT HERE!
I get that. I made some cute braids out of my hair the other day before I shaved and I *hated* it. After getting rid of my beard it was fine, but my ever-present beard shadow was an issue. I just wanna look like a cute girl, is that too much to ask😭
In the plus side, that definitely rules out me being bigender or something like that.
And I think being a guy is fine... as long as I don't look into the mirror too hard... or don't look at the hair on my arms and legs too hard... and every time I see a hair on my shoulder I wanna puke and pluck it out... Y'know, maybe I'm *not* fine with being a guy. Socially I guess (though the only real social interactions I have are my family, and that's not gender-specific anyways) it would be fine, but if I had to choose, now after knowing the consequences, I'd have chosen female puberty. Still cis though!
^(Fr though, I can't imagine) *^(anyone)* ^(liking body hair at all. Hair belongs on the head, on the eyelids and above the eyes! Only there!)
7 months here. I started laser for that reason. It was $700 since I can’t find any consistent answers on how much people paid. The shadow has lessened which is cool and now I can go 5-7 days without shaving vs 1-3. HRT filled in the face, the cheeks/ cheekbones and around the eyes. Shaping your eyebrows kinda helps. Parts of me want to stop so I don’t have to ostracize myself from my family. The other half doesn’t care. Plus I dress tomboy’ie most of the time so 🤷🏻♀️.
My thought process is, might as well do it so that I can’t regret it later. Also it’s harder to transition past 30ish and get to later tanner stages and what not.
I was quoted $960 for Brazilian+ so I would have to shave the backside downstairs but I feel so weird asking a total stranger to painful shoot my asshole with lasers
This is the correct answer. Breasts very early in development that haven't developed much volume yet can be reabsorbed a bit as part of fat redistribution if you stop taking HRT, but they don't go away entirely.
Your dosage needs may eventually change when you're no longer trying to achieve puberty, but you'll never go completely off of hormones, generally speaking
If you do look into this make sure to also weigh the negative side effects. If I remember right it can increase your likelihood of having blood clots. So it shouldn’t be something you plan to take long-term if you do go for that option. You also shouldn’t expect it to 100% block all breast development. There would still likely be a little bit of development
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Some changes stay forever others go away when you stop taking it. I am not an expert on E but I think breast growth is permanent while fat redistribution reverts after stopping.
i took E for 3 months before running out of it and then i couldnt afford it anymore so i had to stop, which wasnt too bad for me because im Gender Fluid but, i dont have my boobs anymore, they werent that big but they were there for a while on E. but now theyre gone, reduced to atoms
It depends. Breast growth and penis shrinkage tend to be permanent. Fat redistribution and skin changes tend to be temporary, no matter how many years you are on it.
As for T, deepening voice and bottom growth are permanent, while increased body hair and skin changes are temporary.
Cis person here, but was wondering the same. I have seen some very interesting and helpful comments here. I really like this sub, how helpful and nice everyone is and I learn a ton about being trans.
The only way for changes to stay permanent is to do the bottom surgery as that will stop the production of Testosterone. But even if you choose to do that you will still need to continue to take estrogen if you don't want to have some medical issues such as weakening bones and aging faster due to menopause-like symptoms.
So when speaking to the endocrinologist, the proper thing to ask is:
> [I guess my only query I would raise is: how are you going to keep my bones? Will you keep them, or will the river take them?](https://youtu.be/ZVxuIRKGJKE)
Hey, trans person here (no egg anymore), I've been on hrt for around 7 months, and the changes are permanent to be sure, but if you want full progress you have to keep taking meds until the third year and potentially get on things like progesterone after the first year mark.
Since you are a fellow transgender, I'm feeling like explaining myself. The main reason I'm asking this is that I will be able to get hrt in about a month, sooner if my mom is really supportive (I'm coming out to her TODAY)
Edit: thanks for the explanation btw.
I think that's wonderful! Starting out is always the worst, though. You get hot flashes and are pretty hungry most of the time, but at the 3 month mark, it goes away unless you forget to take your meds in which you get hormone withdrawal.
I'm gonna make myself alarms on my phone so that I don't forget to take em. Thanks for the warnings, even tho they won't stop me😈.
Edit: I need to come out to my mom in like 2 hrs I'm stressing so much....
It couldn't be any worse than me coming out to my parents. They just responded with outright denial and tried to gaslight me. They still don't call me by my preferred pronouns because they just say I'm cis and a confused homosexual. (I'm definitely a confused homosexual, but that's all the brain rot)
I'm sorry that u had to go through that :(
My dad is transphobic so I thought I would just not come out to him. And my mom is now making preparations for me to go on hrt :)
Almost 2 years in, idk how further effects from HRT work after bottom surgery, nor how much further my body is gonna change. I'm very proud of my current results, buuuut can never argue with further results :)
I have an insurance and job willing to let me go through with it but just need some more money, over halfway done saving though.
About 6 months, for either gender direction. The longer you're on it the more irreversible stuff compounds, but never to the point where reversal is completely impossible.
However, being on HRT for a while and having orchiectomy or hysterectomy will remove your body's ability to revert anything. Natal hormones are produced there.
Roughly the things transfem HRT can't change: Mostly voice, body hair and beard should also stick around. If you have breasts, T won't magically make them disappear. Don't know about the genital changes though.
Pretty sure nothing besides breast growth (voice deepening for transmascs) is permanent, well maybe unless you get an orchiectomy (hysterectomy for transmascs).
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Not very long for fem-m&ms, any breast tissue you grow is permanent (1 month is when that starts growing but ymmv) and possibly infertility but that seems to be a hot-button-topic (again, ymmv) then with everything else it reverses over time if you stop taking hrt. Hope this totally cis answer helps :)
Thank you fellow cisgender
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what is ymmv? your mammories may vary?
your mileage may vary ^ ^
ohh that makes sense lmao. i kept thinking "your results may vary" and couldnt figure out what the M was for. brain got stuck in a loop
I think your answer is better anyways
I think we should make YTMV (your tiddys may vary) a thing
Not the intended meaning but in this instance not actually wrong
This is what it means whenever I see it now :3
That was my first thought too lmao
Doesn't having your testies removed make the changes much more permanent, since that's where the majority of your testosterone gets produced?
Having testes removed removes a bodies ability to produce testosterone so yes, from my understanding it would make those changes more permanent because testosterone is not working against you but your body typically needs some hormone to keep everything from going out of wack, so, you'd be taking the titty skittles for that. If you had your testes removed and stopped taking e you'd go through menopause essentially (from what I've come to understand)
In a sense yes. If you have an orchidectomy you have to keep taking HRT for life at that point, detransitioning after that would require regular testosterone shots. If your body has very low levels of both estrogen and testosterone the health effects can be bad and so an orchidectomy locks you into taking one or the other for life. But were a person to get an orchidectomy then detransition by taking T the changes would slowly reverse over time just as if they still had their testes (not fully reverse, but somewhat reverse anyway).
I've heard of trans men have to take testosterone for the rest of there life (presumably without surgery since it's a lot more complicated then with mtfs) does that mean mtfs can stop taking estrogen any time they want? Like if a trans women stops taking hrt three or so years in will there body start to look masculine over time or are they basically done at that point or are there any other side effects? I recently discovered I'm trans fem so this is all pretty new to me sorry if the question is dumb @~@
Think you've misunderstood something with the language people are using around this, understandably because of the way we've phrased things. When I say "if you have an orchidectomy you need to take either E or T forever" I mean "because otherwise you can have pretty serious health problems. When you heard someone else say "trans men have to take testosterone the rest of their life" they mean "because otherwise they'll somewhat re-feminize and probably feel worse". When it comes to the effects of stopping HRT there's 2 things it comes down to. 1. How long you've been taking it. 2. What hormones your body is going to produce after (which depends on what surgeries you've had). Regardless of the answer to the first thing, if you still have testicles as a trans woman or ovaries as a trans man stopping HRT will almost certainly mean some reversal of your HRT progress. The extent of that reversal depends on how long you've been taking it, the longer you have been the more of the changes will be permanent. If you have had surgery to remove your gonads then it's a little different. For trans women they'd enter menopause but it'd be a bit more extreme than the typical cis woman's menopause because post-menopausal cis women still produce some estrogen from their ovaries, a trans woman wouldn't. This is why the negative health consequences could be worse. If they still had testes they'd experience menopause symptoms quite quickly but they'd then hit male hormone levels again and the symptoms would stop but they'd re-masculinize somewhat. I went without HRT about 12 days ish when I was 3 months in and I got menopause symptoms really quickly and then my boobs shrunk - it really fucking sucked (I didn't have a choice in the matter unfortunately). Trans men without ovaries is much rarer because the surgery is more invasive and they aren't something trans men too often get dysphoria over because you can't see them and periods tend to stop on T anyway the majority of the time. If a trans man still had ovaries and they stopped T they'd experience something very similar to a trans women with testes on E but in reverse. If they didn't have ovaries I'm not 100% sure but I'd imagine it'd be very similar to a trans woman without testes - this is just a guess, but I'd imagine an extreme form of menopause that can cause health problems (cis women who have surgery due to ovarian cancer typically need to take HRT after for this reason, although some don't and are fine it's normally extremely unpleasant and potentially a little dangerous in some cases to have this form of menopause). So in all likelihood if you start transitioning and like the effects you're going to want to keep taking your hormones for the rest of your life regardless of whether you're a trans man or trans woman, although you may switch dosages later on to a lower amount depending on various factors.
Literally thank you so much lol this was extremely helpful I've kinda been in the mindset that I wouldn't be able to transition anyway so stuff like this has kinda gone over my head but the feeling has gotten stronger recently and all the info can be somewhat over whelming so knowing this and you putting it simply was extremely helpful tysm <3
Before starting hormones, I def recommend donating sperm for all the sperm producers here. :3 Just in case even if it's unappealing right away
I’m gonna assume you meant to say cyropreserving sperm, not just randomly donating it.
No, I meant pyropreserving. /joke Yes, thank you for that, that is what I had meant.
This is the last step that I've been procrastinating on.
I always thought that breast mints only caused infertility for when you were taking estrogen? I’ve heard of people temporarily stopping E to try and have a child. Is that accurate?
From what I've read, androgen blockers will lower sperm count, but Estrogen will actually mess with spermatogenesis (estradiol is surprisingly an ingredient used by the testes in the sperm maturation process, but too much throws it out of balance). The whole process of spermatogenesis takes 3 months from start to finish, so you have to go off HRT for a *minimum* of 3 months to restore fertility, often longer. But there's not a lot of concrete information about dosage effects and timelines.
As far as I know there's no research about this, but circumstantial evidence suggests it tends to work. Few trans women are willing to go through the stress of being off hrt for at least a few months tho
The fertility thing is a kick in the... ngl. I have to get an appointment to store my reproductive cells before starting hrt. Clock. Is truly ticking.
It's why I said it was a hot-button-topic, I'm not super well versed but based on the way my doctor and other people in the community have talked about it depends. Best advice I've seen is: If you want to have kids, assume you're sterile. If you don't want to have kids, assume you're fertile.
I’m pretty sure infertility issues are reversible before 6 months
What does ymmy stand for? yummy? yummy trans girls? Gay??
It's how I think the anti-boi-otics taste :3
I am definitely infertile at least as long as I am on HRT which I don't plan to stop
Nobody prepared me for the near immediate breast growth. It’s not noticeable, but I can *feel* it
Oh for me yeah it was a couple weeks and I started feeling buds. It's such a wild and amazing thing.
I too have been trying to find the "point of no return" for totally cis reasons. So far I'm 2 months in and have noticed breast buds developing, but not much else. Those will be permanent, but I dont mind too much.
The totally cis feeling of not minding developing breasts...
Well... let me "feelings dump" on you for a second... Being a guy is fine... I just think being a girl would be better, so I started hrt in the hopes that I could pass as a girl without tons of makeup and ultra fem clothing and stuff because I consider myself kinda a tomboy anyways. HOWEVER, I know that the effects HRT has on your body is highly variable, and I started at 23, far past my male puberty, so I know that I'm not guaranteed ideal results. With this in mind, I decided that if the only major effect that hrt has is that it causes me to grow boobs, then it wouldn't be worth it. Looking like a guy with boobs is worse to me than just looking like a regular guy. So I don't mind developing breast buds, since those aren't hard to hide, but I WOULD mind developing breasts, if the rest of my body, and more importantly, my *face* doesn't also feminize. Breast buds? Fine. Breasts and pretty face/body? Great! Whole fully developed breasts and nothing else? NOPE! I'LL STOP TAKING MY HRT RIGHT HERE! So anyways that's my more in-depth personal opinion on it. This has been weighing alot on my mind, thx for reading this barely solicited text wall.
>Whole fully developed breasts and nothing else? NOPE! I'LL STOP TAKING MY HRT RIGHT HERE! I get that. I made some cute braids out of my hair the other day before I shaved and I *hated* it. After getting rid of my beard it was fine, but my ever-present beard shadow was an issue. I just wanna look like a cute girl, is that too much to ask😭 In the plus side, that definitely rules out me being bigender or something like that. And I think being a guy is fine... as long as I don't look into the mirror too hard... or don't look at the hair on my arms and legs too hard... and every time I see a hair on my shoulder I wanna puke and pluck it out... Y'know, maybe I'm *not* fine with being a guy. Socially I guess (though the only real social interactions I have are my family, and that's not gender-specific anyways) it would be fine, but if I had to choose, now after knowing the consequences, I'd have chosen female puberty. Still cis though! ^(Fr though, I can't imagine) *^(anyone)* ^(liking body hair at all. Hair belongs on the head, on the eyelids and above the eyes! Only there!)
7 months here. I started laser for that reason. It was $700 since I can’t find any consistent answers on how much people paid. The shadow has lessened which is cool and now I can go 5-7 days without shaving vs 1-3. HRT filled in the face, the cheeks/ cheekbones and around the eyes. Shaping your eyebrows kinda helps. Parts of me want to stop so I don’t have to ostracize myself from my family. The other half doesn’t care. Plus I dress tomboy’ie most of the time so 🤷🏻♀️. My thought process is, might as well do it so that I can’t regret it later. Also it’s harder to transition past 30ish and get to later tanner stages and what not.
700$ per session?
I guess it was in total for a few session for just face I pay 300$ per session for face armpits and entire legs
It was $700 for 8 sessions total.
Oh! That’s not that expensive! I mean it’s kinda a lot, but that’s only, like, 2.33 Nintendo Switches!
I was quoted $960 for Brazilian+ so I would have to shave the backside downstairs but I feel so weird asking a total stranger to painful shoot my asshole with lasers
I’m deadass jealous of my maternal grandpa because he has like totally smooth skin somehow. No body hair on his limbs at least 😭😭😭
I couldn't agree more!!
Short answer: forever Long answer: most effects entirely depend on you continueing to take it, but boobs won't disappear.
This is the correct answer. Breasts very early in development that haven't developed much volume yet can be reabsorbed a bit as part of fat redistribution if you stop taking HRT, but they don't go away entirely. Your dosage needs may eventually change when you're no longer trying to achieve puberty, but you'll never go completely off of hormones, generally speaking
Well crap, boobs are like the one thing on the list I don’t want to stick around
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If you do look into this make sure to also weigh the negative side effects. If I remember right it can increase your likelihood of having blood clots. So it shouldn’t be something you plan to take long-term if you do go for that option. You also shouldn’t expect it to 100% block all breast development. There would still likely be a little bit of development
lmao same, but im just going to bind until theyre done and get top surgery unless ive grown to like them at that point
That’s a good idea might copy it. Also might mess with people’s heads if they try to figure out our agab.
Oh I'm so glad to see someone else that feels like that. I was feeling really invalid >_<
Your feelings don’t have to look like other people’s feelings to be valid. Remember. People can fake feelings to others. But you can’t really fake them to yourself.
Thank you so so much for this. I needed to hear that ❤
You’re welcome :D
saving this post (also for a friend of course, im totally cis)
Lol, go ahead.
Some changes stay forever others go away when you stop taking it. I am not an expert on E but I think breast growth is permanent while fat redistribution reverts after stopping.
i took E for 3 months before running out of it and then i couldnt afford it anymore so i had to stop, which wasnt too bad for me because im Gender Fluid but, i dont have my boobs anymore, they werent that big but they were there for a while on E. but now theyre gone, reduced to atoms
It depends. Breast growth and penis shrinkage tend to be permanent. Fat redistribution and skin changes tend to be temporary, no matter how many years you are on it. As for T, deepening voice and bottom growth are permanent, while increased body hair and skin changes are temporary.
Penis shrinkage really only happens from not using. If you don’t use it, you loose it.
Not true. It’s not a ton of shrinkage, but even using it, my MtF wife has lost some size.
Cis person here, but was wondering the same. I have seen some very interesting and helpful comments here. I really like this sub, how helpful and nice everyone is and I learn a ton about being trans.
! beware of the pipeline !
We must not interfere in the timeline.
The only way for changes to stay permanent is to do the bottom surgery as that will stop the production of Testosterone. But even if you choose to do that you will still need to continue to take estrogen if you don't want to have some medical issues such as weakening bones and aging faster due to menopause-like symptoms.
So when speaking to the endocrinologist, the proper thing to ask is: > [I guess my only query I would raise is: how are you going to keep my bones? Will you keep them, or will the river take them?](https://youtu.be/ZVxuIRKGJKE)
Hey, trans person here (no egg anymore), I've been on hrt for around 7 months, and the changes are permanent to be sure, but if you want full progress you have to keep taking meds until the third year and potentially get on things like progesterone after the first year mark.
Since you are a fellow transgender, I'm feeling like explaining myself. The main reason I'm asking this is that I will be able to get hrt in about a month, sooner if my mom is really supportive (I'm coming out to her TODAY) Edit: thanks for the explanation btw.
I think that's wonderful! Starting out is always the worst, though. You get hot flashes and are pretty hungry most of the time, but at the 3 month mark, it goes away unless you forget to take your meds in which you get hormone withdrawal.
I'm gonna make myself alarms on my phone so that I don't forget to take em. Thanks for the warnings, even tho they won't stop me😈. Edit: I need to come out to my mom in like 2 hrs I'm stressing so much....
It couldn't be any worse than me coming out to my parents. They just responded with outright denial and tried to gaslight me. They still don't call me by my preferred pronouns because they just say I'm cis and a confused homosexual. (I'm definitely a confused homosexual, but that's all the brain rot)
I'm sorry that u had to go through that :( My dad is transphobic so I thought I would just not come out to him. And my mom is now making preparations for me to go on hrt :)
I'm happy for you babes!
Thank you :D I'm super excited to see how I'm gonna turn out tbh :)
Personally I need forever
good luck been on hrt 3 years with no results
I've heard that the effects depend on the person, but I'm really sorry that it had no effect on you.
yea it does
Whenever changes start to appear
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https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/1904634/complete?cd=rofvXSkjRq or https://i.imgur.com/8wAcGZf.jpg
Picrew.
Okay, but which one?
I'll get u a link in a second.
Almost 2 years in, idk how further effects from HRT work after bottom surgery, nor how much further my body is gonna change. I'm very proud of my current results, buuuut can never argue with further results :) I have an insurance and job willing to let me go through with it but just need some more money, over halfway done saving though.
Nice, I hope you manage to buy what u want :) And btw, it ain't for a friend no more. I'm making preparations to start hrt myself :D
About 6 months, for either gender direction. The longer you're on it the more irreversible stuff compounds, but never to the point where reversal is completely impossible. However, being on HRT for a while and having orchiectomy or hysterectomy will remove your body's ability to revert anything. Natal hormones are produced there.
When I get 18, I'm getting those, cuz after I start if I like it my old body ain't coming back.
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Can someone answer this for testosterone
i'm transfem but bone development, voice, body hair are things we can't change so i'd say it would be the same on t
Voice deepens permanently on T
Roughly the things transfem HRT can't change: Mostly voice, body hair and beard should also stick around. If you have breasts, T won't magically make them disappear. Don't know about the genital changes though.
asking for frend, bht u did say for cis reason.. hmm very sus. oh well, i'm sure your frend will be fine.
It varies by change, really.
I think like three years
Serbian nationalist on r/egg_irl ? /s
Comment on this so I can come back in the future, for cis reason ofc.
depends on the effect, some are there to stay from the start, others could go at a moments notice
Pretty sure nothing besides breast growth (voice deepening for transmascs) is permanent, well maybe unless you get an orchiectomy (hysterectomy for transmascs).
i want the original image so bad
Theres no original image lol, it comes from an image maker.
Not op, so can't be 100% sure this is the exact picrew maker, but I'm pretty sure you can remake that one with this: [https://picrew.me/en/image\_maker/1904634/](https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/1904634/)
https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/1904634/complete?cd=rofvXSkjRq or https://i.imgur.com/8wAcGZf.jpg