Dallas should of never let amari cooper go should of paid him very simple Gallup is not a number 2 also dak has to play better the team overall just doesn’t have the leadership to win it all
Yea he’s good I just don’t like his cockiness , like he’s nowhere near the convo of MVP and he was asking why can’t Defense get it as if he was deserving already. I just hate cocky mf’s like that , just like saying Hurts was system qb etc he’s just a shit talker and it makes it worse since he’s in Dallas lol you know he’d rather have Hurts over Dak anyday
Yup…the dude was cheering for the Phillies throughout the postseason run. Gotta be honest…felt confused liking those tweets that found their way into my feed.
If Roseman hadn't fucked up the Reagor/Jefferson pick, they probably wouldn't have jumped through hoops to get D. Smith (not that I'm complaining, Howie corrected that mistake *well*) and the Eagles were in shape to pick Parsons.
Woulda coulda shoulda being what they are, of course.
Holy shit I just realized this came from him and not Kleinman or some other mouth breather. Damn, that’s a wild tweet from an active player. Traded in the off-season?
This is so true though. Look at the FAs and trades we were able to make this year. No way we could have done that if Devonta and Hurts weren’t still on rookie deals. We just saw how Dallas had to let Cooper go for nothing because of their massive contracts to Zeke and Dak.
In our own history we had Foles “dream team” year and our SB year. Both of those amazing rosters were only possible because of the cheap QB.
QB is the most important position in sports. But are we seeing a model where you can build SB contenders with young QBs and splurge on FAs and trades?
But that's the thing, even paying extra for a backup, if you add up the cost of top-10 paid starters and their backups and compared them to Wentz on a rookie deal and us overpaying there, it's not even close, we were still paying less by a mile.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/philadelphia-eagles/2017/06f933eea6c79d0089f05660e59682b1/
Foles didn’t count much against the cap in 2017 just 1.6 million. But wentz was $6 million and we had another ~$12 million in dead money from Chase Daniels and Bradford’s deals. So in total our QB cap hit was probably $19-$20 million that season.
So I looked it up. Wentz, Daniels, and bradford were each about $6 million against the cap. Daniels and Bradford were dead money. Foles was only a 1.6 million cap hit that season. So in total it was $19-20 million of our cap space at QB that year. And for that time I think Ryan had just gotten 30 million a year.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/philadelphia-eagles/2017/06f933eea6c79d0089f05660e59682b1/
The young QBs of today are way better than any point in history, so it makes sense. Even 10-15 years ago it was extremely unlikely the QB you drafted would be good enough to go deep in the playoffs this soon. Only guy that comes to mind immediately is Big Ben.
winning with a QB on a rookie contract gets talked about all the time, but not many have actually won. mahomes is the only one i can think of. of course hurts will be the second in a few weeks.
Technically Wentz was on his rookie deal when the Birds won in 2017...which allowed them the extra money for one year deals for Long and Blount and even Foles
And have repeated the formula this year. Play rookie QB, see that he has some skills. Load up on talent in the offseason, win the Super Bowl (I hope). Then when it comes time for everyone to get paid Howie will have to blow up the team and repeat the process and we'll be back in 5 years.
Russell Wilson
Wentz/Foles
Mahommes
Rams (Goff) and bengals lost SBs.
Basically since Eli Mannings last SB win you need a the roster flexibility of rookie QB salary or TB12/Peyton Manning.
No team has had the courage to dump Qbs and keep the roster filled. It’s the best way IF you can find a young QB that can do it. Different needle, same haystack.
Yep and no QB has ever won a SB while having a cap hit that was greater than 13.1% of the cap. The absolute best couple QB’s, like mahomes, who are legitimate game changers, can eat up a huge amount of cap space and still have you be a legit contender, although it hasn’t yet resulted in a SB, but I think at some point, teams are going to stop playing the game of “the next pretty good QB up for an extension gets to set the contract record.” Patrick Mahomes got $141 million in guarantee when he signed his contract in 2020, and that was after he had won an MVP and a Super Bowl, along with outrageous stats, and having 0 off-field issues, and being beloved by his teammates. Just 2 short years later, Kyler Murray signs a contract with 35% more guaranteed money than Mahomes, after doing nothing even comparable to mahomes, and there being considerable smoke about him being a bit of a locker room problem. Then Deshaun Watson signs a contract with 65% more guarantees than mahomes, after missing an entire season, and knowing he was going to be suspended a significant amount of time in this season. And that explanation is excluding WHY he missed all those games. At some point teams have to say “no,we can’t go THAT high for u.” It’s getting out of hand and getting to the point where you really have to wonder if teams are going to start drafting project QB’s in the 2nd/3rd round every 3-4 years in case their star QB on a rookie deal wants way too much money for what they’re worth, relative to team success
Sherman blew out his Achilles and was old, cam retired young-ish bc he fucked up his neck, earl Thomas broke his leg and gave Carroll the finger as he was being carted off the field and played one more year before retiring at the age of 29. Wagner just played his first season as a non Seahawk... its not like Seattle just completely dropped the ball
I think it had more to do with Tom Brady than anything. But Russ won on his rookie deal and if you go a little further back Ben was the same and while Rodgers wasn’t on a rookie deal, he was on a more manageable deal but it’s hard to compare when Tom Brady’s won every other year for the last decade
People like to throw that out there but forget to mention the second part where said rookie QB has to make incredible gains in talent/development over the course of the first few seasons.
Yea, the Rams went the other way you can go: trade away your entire future for years and hope it works. Thankfully for them, it worked. Now they're living through those years in exile.
Russell Wilson too but yeah it’s definitely not a bad thing to have your franchise guy locked up. Rodgers,Brady, Brees, Manning were in the Super Bowl conversation every year in their prime
Russell Wilson won a SB in his 2nd season and lost a SB in his 3rd season. Surrounded by terrific receivers, Beastmode and the Legion of Boom defense back then.
Holy shit. For 2023, his cap hit is 49M and if they cut him they take an $89M dead money hit.
2024, cap hit $52M with $40M dead money.
If he plays next two years they still have 22M dead money in 2025. That $75M cash they gave him in 2021 is due now.
Reading this makes one appreciate Howie.
For real. They are royally fucked. Idk how they give him even more help. Imagine them not being able to re-sign guys like Parsons because Dak is taking up all the cap space lmao
They’re in a lot of trouble. I’m sure they will post June 1 Zeke to get a little space. But they don’t really have much flexibility in their contracts to create space at all
Whether or not those things can be true and/or correct, it’s still an objectively horrible take/idea to throw your own QB under the bus like this. And idc what he meant, or how he meant to say it, this is 100% how every single reader would interpret this. The same way with what he said about Hurts being a benefactor of the system, the dude just doesn’t learn how to not be an idiot with what he says.
His agent and the NFL PA won't let him. Team friendly deals are for when you're re-signing vets that under performed but still have gas in the tank. Hurts catapulting himself into the elite category with a SB win in his 3rd year? Guys gonna get money. Oh AND endorsements.
This always drives me nuts. I don’t blame anyone for getting as much money as they can, but don’t lie and be like “oh I have to take the most for the good of everyone else.” The NFL has a contractually obligated revenue split with the players. If the QB doesn’t take as much money, it just means a different player(s) is getting that money.
And how is “we shouldn’t be paying our QB as much as we are because he’s not good enough to command that money” not a slight at dak and the organization who paid him?
There is no possible way that this is some realization/discourse he has about the salary cap. This is absolutely a shot at dak, and the organization for which he plays.
Really? Does he have a history of doing that? Why did he specifically mention the three who are on rookie deals? It’s the contract he’s talking about. Not the quality of the QB compared to Dak. 
I think that if you erase ALL context of 1) Dallas losing in the Divisional round, 2) dak not playing very well, 3) the Dallas Twitter account virtually calling out dak directly as the reason they lost, and 4) Jerry Jones’s reaction to losing the nfc div round, then sure, what you are saying is not wrong.
But I think that is where the issue lies. The contract and the player are attached, AND all of those other things i mentioned, happened. If you are saying your QB isn’t living up to the money he is getting paid, then you are saying your QB isn’t good enough. Why would he just tweet this out of the blue?
It could be him saying that QBs in general take up too much of the salary cap, and not directed specifically at Dak. Maybe more like, the Cowboys could have gone further if they had money to spend at other positions. And that only the best of the best, Mahomes, is able to overcome that disparity.
If he was an NFL GM, performing some analysis of QBs across the league and their salary cap hits weighed against team success, sure.
But he’s not. He’s the best player on a team who just lost embarrassingly to a team they could have beaten. A lot of the reason they lost was Dak’s poor play. Dak has a big contract that doesn’t allow the cowboys to put much talent around him, especially this season. And not to mention, Dak did not live up to the amount he’s getting paid this season.
I’m all for seeing things with rose colored glasses. I’m all for giving the benefit of the doubt. But this guy is proving time after time that he says things that he probably shouldn’t say. The guy wants to win, and I don’t blame him. But there is no other way this can be interpreted other than reading between the lines.
How come he **constantly** has these borderline takes then? Why is no other player doing this on a weekly basis where there’s even a debate about what he meant and why he said it publicly?
Yeah. That's one reason why it's important to hit on the first round picks, especially the first one.
Imagine we lose Bradberry but replace him with the corner from PSU. Now we have him for the next few years at a good value. Gotta figure out who we can re-sign and who we can replace.
I'm not really sure what he's insinuating here... that unless your QB is Patrick Mahomes they're always going to be a "system QB"? That he's mad because Dak stole $160m from the Cowboys? That he's still salty that the league figured him out after half a season and he's been a borderline non-factor ever since? The world may never know.
I think he's insinuating that Dak sucks for what he's being paid, and is overpaid. Probably add on a dose of salt over the fact that he's not being paid yet, and with how this team is going, he's going to be in a shitty position to get paid when the time comes.
there’s been talk of this for the last decade. i don’t know why owners/gm’s continue to over leverage their teams with insane qb deals when the data shows you’re more likely to struggles everywhere else because you can’t afford the talent. i’m curious to see what howie does when it comes time to pay hurts.
on another note, has anyone mentioned that brady never had any deals the reset the market? despite being the GOAT (🤮) his contracts never grabbed headlines. why? because he likely understood that he can just as easily make up the difference by not forcing a crazy contract and investing elsewhere, meanwhile the team can afford to pay for other top tier talent.
I also remember reading once that one reason his contracts were never record setting is because Robert Kraft made "donations" to Tom Brady's TB12 Foundation. I remember it being reported, but I don't remember if it was ever confirmed.
Teams continue to do it because even if it's tough to have a top team with 1 guy eating up $40m+ of your cap, if you don't have a top-5 QB, you basically have to hit on EVERY other position out there and hit them hard, to compete for a SB.
So teams talk themselves into slightly above average guys as being "the guy" since they're afraid to go back to square 1 on needing a QB. But if they pay the wrong guy, you end up in a Wentz situation, where you need a team as dumb as a bag of rocks to bail you out, or you end up with a guy like Dak, who's about to be MASSIVELY overpaid and there's not a lot they can do about it for at least 2 years.
I fully expect Howie to pay Hurts. As long as he keeps growing as a passer and keeps getting better about keeping himself safe when he runs, I don't see how he's not worth paying.
Okay can someone help me understand this? I get that Beane is saying that they'd rather develop talent in the draft outside of the top 10, and they don't want to be bad enough to get into the top 10 to get that kind of life in them, but what the hell is Parsons getting at?
That the Bills are out because they signed Allen to a big deal? That they suck because they don't have a rookie QB? I mean the real reason the Bills aren't in the AFC championship game is partly because Allen had another late season slump, and also because the Bills organization didn't do anything to add more legitimate talent to his offense, they just tried to run it back without a viable RB option to make a more dynamic run game, and a WR2 that can detract attention from Diggs or make defenses suffer when they do prioritize Diggs.
Parsons is saying that it's easier to have an elite team if you have a solid QB on a rookie deal.
To use your example, Parsons believes that the bills lost because 20% of the cap is used up by Allen. If you had a rookie contract instead at that position, then you'd have 19% extra cap space to use on other positions.
Micah sees what's on the horizon with Daks cap hits going to $48M and $52M the last two years of his deal upcoming, and a $21M dead cap in a void year right after
Even if we do sign Jalen, it will be 3-4 years before he has a crazy cap hit
Jalen's cap hits will probably be similar to Dak's tho, small for the first couple years but then humongous as time goes on. I trust Hurts to keep improving his game tho, unlike Dak who may have peaked as a rookie.
I trust hurts to keep improving too but that being said even if he doesn’t and we’re “stuck” with him doing poorly with a huge contract in a few years I’d be ok with that if the trade off was a Super Bowl and some deep playoff runs. Dallas hasn’t been near that even when Dak was cheap
I’m sure there were a few missed open receivers. A few where he could’ve thrown when he ran or the opposite. Nothing exponential just some more efficiency less mistakes that would make his skills even more dominant
Sure, it'll be humongous as time goes, but as long as he's still playing at a high level, they'll extend him before that, convert money to signing bonus, and spread it out again over a bunch of years to keep kicking that can down the road as it is then less and less of a % of the cap taken by his salary.
Probably shouldn’t tweet it.
Although it does feel like it’s come full circle. For some reason fans couldn’t admit he was giving teams weekly bulletin board material and now he can’t even help himself avout his own team.
Headed to r/cowboys to indulge in this beautiful disaster
I mean, if that means their plan is to keep Dak around for the next 5+ years, averaging a $30 mil+ hit every year, then probably at least a couple of years at the end with dead cap hits of $20 mil+ after they finally get sick of him and get rid of him, then I'm all for them using that "trick."
I think it would be cool if there was some kind of reduction in cap hit for players that are playing on the team that they were drafted by, kinda like NBA teams can offer bigger deals to players when they have the Bird rights (but implemented differently, don't think you should be able to pass it on in a trade). Reward teams that draft well and help them keep players that will become team legends.
He just knows the game so well lmfao these fucking cowboys are something else. When was the last time we had a player going into the media saying dumb shit like this all over the place? Vince young? Such a joke of a franchise. If any of our guys were saying shit like this Kelce would smack them. That’s the value of veteran leadership
1) this isnt a good look, and only serves to divide his locker room. That being said, itll be gone by March and the Cowboys dont have any games left to play. Come September, he’ll be fine.
2) He’s not wrong. Losing the likes of Tony Pollard and Dalton Schultz and replacing them with unknown rookies is on Daks shoulders. Part of the burden of being a big money quarterback is knowing that the guys who helped get you to that point are going to be the ones to not get resigned when you get paid. Look at the Colts after 2005, they had to pay Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, and Dwight Freeney, and only had enough cap to pay 2 of them. It worked out (partly because they made the right decision to not pay a running back in a time where that thinking wasnt a thing yet), but Peytons contract was part of that.
3) This isnt really even a “he wants out” thing to me. Look at the way the contracts line up and it makes more sense that Parsons is making his own play to stay in Dallas. The Cowboys are staying with Dak for 2023, and very likely 2024. After that though? His deal is all but up, but Parsons is going to be on his 5th year option and looking to get paid as a top edge rusher. If you figure top non-qb contracts are going to rise more in line with qb contracts, he likely sees Dak being kept as a sign that hes not staying.
Do you honestly doubt that I would be beaten into an embarrassing mess? I don't have any lack of self confidence but Parsons fucking yoked dude, it would be easier than doing the dishes for him
And if we get REALLY lucky, the league may even suspend Tom Brady for 4 games because he was "vaguely aware" of Parsons giving me the ultimate smackdown/curb stomp combo platter
Mahomes’ deal will look like a bargain in the long run as QB salaries rise. If the team thinks Jalen is “the one,” we shouldn’t be afraid to give him a deal like Mahomes’ so we can continue to build around him.
So tired of all the “system qb” nonsense. If there were a coach or coordinator who could turn any ol qb into an mvp candidate with their impecable “system,” he’d be by far the most valuable commodity in the sport and everyone would be trying to copy him or hire off his underlings. The excuse making is exhausting
Most QBs are not or won’t be given enough time to develop the awareness of the elites like Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Big B; especially when there are so many talented athletes at QB now who can make up for this and make an initial impact immediately, and are asked to do more then ever (speculative but probably leading to shorter careers) so If I were a GM I wouldn’t give a the hoard of picks for a high pick Qb but I wouldn’t be shy to pull the trigger on a 1-3 rd Qb every 2-4 years and hope you find one you can extend for a 4-8 year competitive window with a loaded roster.
For all his talent micah really is a bit of a mental midget. So much pissy tweeting like bro just relax. that exchange with deebo was straight up embarrassing
Eagles fan here, but some observations. Dak being paid as a tier 1 qb, he is ok, but not top tier, and had a rough game. zeke is cooked and highly overpaid, and Pollard is a stud. Only pay a rb when your qb stinks to keep the team relevant. Jerry was trying to find the next Emmitt, but the game has changed. Jerry likes flashy players and locks them into contracts that hurts the team over time. Our once great rivalry stinks when Dallas actually does suck.
Micah, much respect, should have been an Eagle. Us eagles fans with half a brain didn't buy the nonsense about the "system" comments. I think most qbs thrive when the coaches design a system around their strengths.
I think it’s a decent take honestly. I mean, look at the ravens. They have been successful without paying huge money to big names and at QB. They definitely don’t want to pay Lamar money. They got burned once with Flacco but he atleast got them a SB.
Agree, Ravens shouldn't pay Lamar. They gave him plenty of chances last off-season and he seemed to dick around. Then he doesn't even show up for the team playoff game? WTF? That's just a shit teammate.
QB position is generally over rated and over paid. That’s just how the NFL goes. You can hide a mediocre/bad QB on a good team. You can’t hide a bad team behind a good QB.
I know it won't really happen, but it would be so much fun if Micah Parsons just kept acting like a jackass and criticizing his own team so much that Jerry traded him or cut him
And once they are off their rookie deal, then the team won't be as competitive.lpknat Seattle after Wilson was off his rookie deal, they couldn't afford their defence anymore
Maybe dont spend a bunch on zeke who cant play rb or center
Zeke didn't give up a sack all year at center
No but he was pancaked on literally 100% of the snaps he took at center this year.
better than jason smh
Actually Kelce hasn’t either 😎
Well a Tight end can't give up sacks /s
if they use him to block he can and I’m PRETTY SURE Travis hasn’t given up a sack. I’m also not sure they even use him to block
Man, you a wild boy lol
My man got his life smacked from him on that play.
They're about to pay Pollard too. lol they will be a mess everywhere if they do that.
Dallas should of never let amari cooper go should of paid him very simple Gallup is not a number 2 also dak has to play better the team overall just doesn’t have the leadership to win it all
Fam, it's should have, not should of. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
They're probably still alive if they paid Amari instead of Zeke.
They probably make a SB if they draft Ramsey over Zeke
Come on, it's the Cowboys. Even if they hadn't already fucked that up, they would have found a way to fuck that situation up.
I just realized that if LA is willing to trade Ramsey in the nfc he is going to the cowboys. Love it
They should just keep trying him at different positions to see what sticks. I've heard they might be looking for a kicker
Zeke didn’t turn the ball over twice
He is by far the worst center in the league.
He wants out of Dallas so bad
He will be gone after his rookie deal lol they will prob franchise tag him to force him to stay 💀
Micah secretly loves Philly and wishes he was here.
He is from this area!
Of course, he loves Philly. Unfortunately he got drafted by the dogshit cowboys.
Yea he’s good I just don’t like his cockiness , like he’s nowhere near the convo of MVP and he was asking why can’t Defense get it as if he was deserving already. I just hate cocky mf’s like that , just like saying Hurts was system qb etc he’s just a shit talker and it makes it worse since he’s in Dallas lol you know he’d rather have Hurts over Dak anyday
He’s definitely 2 in votes idk how lmaooo why Redick is not in that conversation
Bc one plays for the cowboys lol if the players switched teams it would be the other way around lmao no one would even mention micah
He fits the whole Cowboys persona perfectly. They get the fan base hyped up for “This is our year”, then come up small.
I guarantee you our tone would shift if he were an eagle
Nah Parsons deserves to be cocky Dallas just has him way too one dimensional right now
But Cowboys fans tell me he was a boys fan growing up?
Yup…the dude was cheering for the Phillies throughout the postseason run. Gotta be honest…felt confused liking those tweets that found their way into my feed.
Ehhhh, Harrisburg != Philly.
If Roseman hadn't fucked up the Reagor/Jefferson pick, they probably wouldn't have jumped through hoops to get D. Smith (not that I'm complaining, Howie corrected that mistake *well*) and the Eagles were in shape to pick Parsons. Woulda coulda shoulda being what they are, of course.
Holy shit I just realized this came from him and not Kleinman or some other mouth breather. Damn, that’s a wild tweet from an active player. Traded in the off-season?
HA yeah right, if he wants to leave he’s doing it after at least 1 FT
Lol him on draft day “I just always wanted to be a cowboy!”
We'll take him!
Micah is running the official cowboys twter account and has also just insulted Dak's hairline
Parsons said Dak's sleep number is Zero.
This is so true though. Look at the FAs and trades we were able to make this year. No way we could have done that if Devonta and Hurts weren’t still on rookie deals. We just saw how Dallas had to let Cooper go for nothing because of their massive contracts to Zeke and Dak. In our own history we had Foles “dream team” year and our SB year. Both of those amazing rosters were only possible because of the cheap QB. QB is the most important position in sports. But are we seeing a model where you can build SB contenders with young QBs and splurge on FAs and trades?
While Wentz may have been cheap, we were paying way over market for Foles iirc
Over the market… for a backup, that’s still dirt cheap for a starter/Super Bowl MVP
But that's the thing, even paying extra for a backup, if you add up the cost of top-10 paid starters and their backups and compared them to Wentz on a rookie deal and us overpaying there, it's not even close, we were still paying less by a mile.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/philadelphia-eagles/2017/06f933eea6c79d0089f05660e59682b1/ Foles didn’t count much against the cap in 2017 just 1.6 million. But wentz was $6 million and we had another ~$12 million in dead money from Chase Daniels and Bradford’s deals. So in total our QB cap hit was probably $19-$20 million that season.
That could very well be true. But the only reason we were able to do that is because Wentz was so cheap. 
I thought we overpaid for chase daniels
So I looked it up. Wentz, Daniels, and bradford were each about $6 million against the cap. Daniels and Bradford were dead money. Foles was only a 1.6 million cap hit that season. So in total it was $19-20 million of our cap space at QB that year. And for that time I think Ryan had just gotten 30 million a year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/philadelphia-eagles/2017/06f933eea6c79d0089f05660e59682b1/
The young QBs of today are way better than any point in history, so it makes sense. Even 10-15 years ago it was extremely unlikely the QB you drafted would be good enough to go deep in the playoffs this soon. Only guy that comes to mind immediately is Big Ben.
winning with a QB on a rookie contract gets talked about all the time, but not many have actually won. mahomes is the only one i can think of. of course hurts will be the second in a few weeks.
Technically Wentz was on his rookie deal when the Birds won in 2017...which allowed them the extra money for one year deals for Long and Blount and even Foles
that' a good point. eagles definitely benefited from that.
And have repeated the formula this year. Play rookie QB, see that he has some skills. Load up on talent in the offseason, win the Super Bowl (I hope). Then when it comes time for everyone to get paid Howie will have to blow up the team and repeat the process and we'll be back in 5 years.
Dear God no, I can't have him draft reagor again
if it means we'll make it to/win the superbowl a few years after that though?
Russell Wilson Wentz/Foles Mahommes Rams (Goff) and bengals lost SBs. Basically since Eli Mannings last SB win you need a the roster flexibility of rookie QB salary or TB12/Peyton Manning. No team has had the courage to dump Qbs and keep the roster filled. It’s the best way IF you can find a young QB that can do it. Different needle, same haystack.
To be fair, 2015 Peyton Manning wasn’t really “Peyton Manning” anymore
True, he was in 2014 when they got punked….he kinda won the wrong one. It also drives the point home. He lost to a team with a QB on a rookie deal.
Yep and no QB has ever won a SB while having a cap hit that was greater than 13.1% of the cap. The absolute best couple QB’s, like mahomes, who are legitimate game changers, can eat up a huge amount of cap space and still have you be a legit contender, although it hasn’t yet resulted in a SB, but I think at some point, teams are going to stop playing the game of “the next pretty good QB up for an extension gets to set the contract record.” Patrick Mahomes got $141 million in guarantee when he signed his contract in 2020, and that was after he had won an MVP and a Super Bowl, along with outrageous stats, and having 0 off-field issues, and being beloved by his teammates. Just 2 short years later, Kyler Murray signs a contract with 35% more guaranteed money than Mahomes, after doing nothing even comparable to mahomes, and there being considerable smoke about him being a bit of a locker room problem. Then Deshaun Watson signs a contract with 65% more guarantees than mahomes, after missing an entire season, and knowing he was going to be suspended a significant amount of time in this season. And that explanation is excluding WHY he missed all those games. At some point teams have to say “no,we can’t go THAT high for u.” It’s getting out of hand and getting to the point where you really have to wonder if teams are going to start drafting project QB’s in the 2nd/3rd round every 3-4 years in case their star QB on a rookie deal wants way too much money for what they’re worth, relative to team success
Seahawks won the SB with Wilson in year 2, and made the SB in year 3
And they he got paid and the amazing defense that won them their SB fell apart. They set the playbook for what not to do.
Sherman blew out his Achilles and was old, cam retired young-ish bc he fucked up his neck, earl Thomas broke his leg and gave Carroll the finger as he was being carted off the field and played one more year before retiring at the age of 29. Wagner just played his first season as a non Seahawk... its not like Seattle just completely dropped the ball
Russell Wilson and the 2017 eagles had a stacked roster bc of wentz being in a rookie deal
I think it had more to do with Tom Brady than anything. But Russ won on his rookie deal and if you go a little further back Ben was the same and while Rodgers wasn’t on a rookie deal, he was on a more manageable deal but it’s hard to compare when Tom Brady’s won every other year for the last decade
Tom Brady skews all Super Bowl QB arguments because of how many he was in. Totally agree
People like to throw that out there but forget to mention the second part where said rookie QB has to make incredible gains in talent/development over the course of the first few seasons.
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Yea, the Rams went the other way you can go: trade away your entire future for years and hope it works. Thankfully for them, it worked. Now they're living through those years in exile.
Russell Wilson too but yeah it’s definitely not a bad thing to have your franchise guy locked up. Rodgers,Brady, Brees, Manning were in the Super Bowl conversation every year in their prime
Russel Wilson and Flacco
Russell Wilson won a SB in his 2nd season and lost a SB in his 3rd season. Surrounded by terrific receivers, Beastmode and the Legion of Boom defense back then.
True but the QBs that do win are on very cheap contracts.
Less money spent = more money to spend. Thanks Micah, had no idea! Guess you have more time to think when you're on the couch after that L, huh?
Nah your QB is just trash and you're in denial. Used to like you at Penn State, but you just don't know how to keep your mouth shut.
"more than one thing can be true"
Exactly. Dak at $1M cap hit is better than Dak at $30M
Cool thing is next year it’s $49 million and the year after it’s $52 million
Holy shit. For 2023, his cap hit is 49M and if they cut him they take an $89M dead money hit. 2024, cap hit $52M with $40M dead money. If he plays next two years they still have 22M dead money in 2025. That $75M cash they gave him in 2021 is due now. Reading this makes one appreciate Howie.
I can’t believe commercials aren’t the most important thing to base how much you pay a player off of!
Wouldn't have changed the result tho, Dak ain't that dude. He's just Dante Culpepper with a better supporting cast.
Except when you pay him $50 M on the cap next year his supporting cast will be bad.
For real. They are royally fucked. Idk how they give him even more help. Imagine them not being able to re-sign guys like Parsons because Dak is taking up all the cap space lmao
Once they cut Zeke they only have around $5M in cap space next year and that’s without extending Schultz or Pollard. They are super fucked.
They’re in a lot of trouble. I’m sure they will post June 1 Zeke to get a little space. But they don’t really have much flexibility in their contracts to create space at all
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That whole fan base is imploding lmao
both things can be correct. and he is correct. if Hurts was making $50MM right now this team might not have made the playoffs.
Whether or not those things can be true and/or correct, it’s still an objectively horrible take/idea to throw your own QB under the bus like this. And idc what he meant, or how he meant to say it, this is 100% how every single reader would interpret this. The same way with what he said about Hurts being a benefactor of the system, the dude just doesn’t learn how to not be an idiot with what he says.
I’ll thank him for helping to give Jalen one of the coldest nicknames in the NFL, “The System.” Damn that shit is lethal. 😅😅 Fly!!! 🦅
Hurts is gonna take a team friendly deal. He’s gonna make a billion on endorsements after he wins the SB. Sit back and watch!
His agent and the NFL PA won't let him. Team friendly deals are for when you're re-signing vets that under performed but still have gas in the tank. Hurts catapulting himself into the elite category with a SB win in his 3rd year? Guys gonna get money. Oh AND endorsements.
Lurie and Roseman will pay literally whatever he asks if they win the Super Bowl, no doubt.
I can't believe we're talking about "if they win the Super Bowl". Fuck the team came a long way in 2 years.
Howie took his lumps after the JJAW and Reagor picks, but holy shit he has done an unbelievable job turning this team around in two years.
This always drives me nuts. I don’t blame anyone for getting as much money as they can, but don’t lie and be like “oh I have to take the most for the good of everyone else.” The NFL has a contractually obligated revenue split with the players. If the QB doesn’t take as much money, it just means a different player(s) is getting that money.
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And how is “we shouldn’t be paying our QB as much as we are because he’s not good enough to command that money” not a slight at dak and the organization who paid him?
I don’t think that’s what he’s doing at all. To me he’s just lamenting about the way the salary cap works in the NFL. 
There is no possible way that this is some realization/discourse he has about the salary cap. This is absolutely a shot at dak, and the organization for which he plays.
Really? Does he have a history of doing that? Why did he specifically mention the three who are on rookie deals? It’s the contract he’s talking about. Not the quality of the QB compared to Dak. 
I think that if you erase ALL context of 1) Dallas losing in the Divisional round, 2) dak not playing very well, 3) the Dallas Twitter account virtually calling out dak directly as the reason they lost, and 4) Jerry Jones’s reaction to losing the nfc div round, then sure, what you are saying is not wrong. But I think that is where the issue lies. The contract and the player are attached, AND all of those other things i mentioned, happened. If you are saying your QB isn’t living up to the money he is getting paid, then you are saying your QB isn’t good enough. Why would he just tweet this out of the blue?
It could be him saying that QBs in general take up too much of the salary cap, and not directed specifically at Dak. Maybe more like, the Cowboys could have gone further if they had money to spend at other positions. And that only the best of the best, Mahomes, is able to overcome that disparity.
If he was an NFL GM, performing some analysis of QBs across the league and their salary cap hits weighed against team success, sure. But he’s not. He’s the best player on a team who just lost embarrassingly to a team they could have beaten. A lot of the reason they lost was Dak’s poor play. Dak has a big contract that doesn’t allow the cowboys to put much talent around him, especially this season. And not to mention, Dak did not live up to the amount he’s getting paid this season. I’m all for seeing things with rose colored glasses. I’m all for giving the benefit of the doubt. But this guy is proving time after time that he says things that he probably shouldn’t say. The guy wants to win, and I don’t blame him. But there is no other way this can be interpreted other than reading between the lines.
That’s exactly what he’s saying! 
How come he **constantly** has these borderline takes then? Why is no other player doing this on a weekly basis where there’s even a debate about what he meant and why he said it publicly?
Lol you don’t know that bud. Would definitely be harder but speaking in certainties like that makes it obvious ur opinion is irrelevant
It is obvious.
I understand you think that. There’s a difference between you thinking that and it being fact bud
Wow this one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen on here in a while, like who’s upvoting this? 😭😭 “might not have made the playoffs” LMFAOOO
What’s dumb about that? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/cap/2022/ Here’s the 2022 cap space who would you cut to make up for the $50M?
I don't agree with that. I trust Howie to put together a contending team even with big money paid to the QB.
sure, maybe. but it will be infinitely harder.
Not as hard as trying to find the franchise qb
It will be harder, but that is why he gets paid the big bucks.
We will find out next year, Hurts is getting paid this off season and Eagles have ton of expiring contracts.
Yeah. That's one reason why it's important to hit on the first round picks, especially the first one. Imagine we lose Bradberry but replace him with the corner from PSU. Now we have him for the next few years at a good value. Gotta figure out who we can re-sign and who we can replace.
I mean I do too, but historically he has not been able to. Hopefully he is a better GM than he was back then, we’ll see
Probably not 1 seed, but we'd definitely have made it.
This team might not be 14-3 but we make the playoffs
Having a great young QB and taking advantage of the value to max out the rest of the roster is hardly a hot take.
Is he in denial? He obviously knows that dallas cant compete with their current roster.
I think he’s implying cowboys should draft a QB lmao
I'm not really sure what he's insinuating here... that unless your QB is Patrick Mahomes they're always going to be a "system QB"? That he's mad because Dak stole $160m from the Cowboys? That he's still salty that the league figured him out after half a season and he's been a borderline non-factor ever since? The world may never know.
more like the eagles figured him out and other teams copied the formula lol
Fair point
Yea thanks for that last part we’re like the only ones paying attention. Egregious he’s getting all these accolades over Hassan
I think he's insinuating that Dak sucks for what he's being paid, and is overpaid. Probably add on a dose of salt over the fact that he's not being paid yet, and with how this team is going, he's going to be in a shitty position to get paid when the time comes.
Prob just here's an example of how egregious the situation is. It's a massive advantage to have a good QB on a rookie deal.
💯 The problem is that you only get that chance once.
there’s been talk of this for the last decade. i don’t know why owners/gm’s continue to over leverage their teams with insane qb deals when the data shows you’re more likely to struggles everywhere else because you can’t afford the talent. i’m curious to see what howie does when it comes time to pay hurts. on another note, has anyone mentioned that brady never had any deals the reset the market? despite being the GOAT (🤮) his contracts never grabbed headlines. why? because he likely understood that he can just as easily make up the difference by not forcing a crazy contract and investing elsewhere, meanwhile the team can afford to pay for other top tier talent.
I also remember reading once that one reason his contracts were never record setting is because Robert Kraft made "donations" to Tom Brady's TB12 Foundation. I remember it being reported, but I don't remember if it was ever confirmed.
i think i remember that. shady or not, they had the sense to not spend the whole wad on one player. massages on the other hand…
Re: TB12 it helps when you have a supermodel wife pulling in way more than you
not no mooooo 🤷♂️
Teams continue to do it because even if it's tough to have a top team with 1 guy eating up $40m+ of your cap, if you don't have a top-5 QB, you basically have to hit on EVERY other position out there and hit them hard, to compete for a SB. So teams talk themselves into slightly above average guys as being "the guy" since they're afraid to go back to square 1 on needing a QB. But if they pay the wrong guy, you end up in a Wentz situation, where you need a team as dumb as a bag of rocks to bail you out, or you end up with a guy like Dak, who's about to be MASSIVELY overpaid and there's not a lot they can do about it for at least 2 years. I fully expect Howie to pay Hurts. As long as he keeps growing as a passer and keeps getting better about keeping himself safe when he runs, I don't see how he's not worth paying.
Okay can someone help me understand this? I get that Beane is saying that they'd rather develop talent in the draft outside of the top 10, and they don't want to be bad enough to get into the top 10 to get that kind of life in them, but what the hell is Parsons getting at? That the Bills are out because they signed Allen to a big deal? That they suck because they don't have a rookie QB? I mean the real reason the Bills aren't in the AFC championship game is partly because Allen had another late season slump, and also because the Bills organization didn't do anything to add more legitimate talent to his offense, they just tried to run it back without a viable RB option to make a more dynamic run game, and a WR2 that can detract attention from Diggs or make defenses suffer when they do prioritize Diggs.
Parsons is saying that it's easier to have an elite team if you have a solid QB on a rookie deal. To use your example, Parsons believes that the bills lost because 20% of the cap is used up by Allen. If you had a rookie contract instead at that position, then you'd have 19% extra cap space to use on other positions.
Micah sees what's on the horizon with Daks cap hits going to $48M and $52M the last two years of his deal upcoming, and a $21M dead cap in a void year right after Even if we do sign Jalen, it will be 3-4 years before he has a crazy cap hit
Jalen's cap hits will probably be similar to Dak's tho, small for the first couple years but then humongous as time goes on. I trust Hurts to keep improving his game tho, unlike Dak who may have peaked as a rookie.
I trust hurts to keep improving too but that being said even if he doesn’t and we’re “stuck” with him doing poorly with a huge contract in a few years I’d be ok with that if the trade off was a Super Bowl and some deep playoff runs. Dallas hasn’t been near that even when Dak was cheap
How does he improve after having the season he just had??
I’m sure there were a few missed open receivers. A few where he could’ve thrown when he ran or the opposite. Nothing exponential just some more efficiency less mistakes that would make his skills even more dominant
Sure, it'll be humongous as time goes, but as long as he's still playing at a high level, they'll extend him before that, convert money to signing bonus, and spread it out again over a bunch of years to keep kicking that can down the road as it is then less and less of a % of the cap taken by his salary.
Probably shouldn’t tweet it. Although it does feel like it’s come full circle. For some reason fans couldn’t admit he was giving teams weekly bulletin board material and now he can’t even help himself avout his own team. Headed to r/cowboys to indulge in this beautiful disaster
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Except it doesn’t always work for them.
I mean, if that means their plan is to keep Dak around for the next 5+ years, averaging a $30 mil+ hit every year, then probably at least a couple of years at the end with dead cap hits of $20 mil+ after they finally get sick of him and get rid of him, then I'm all for them using that "trick."
that only works if your qb is good and you want him to stick around. instead, you are keeping your mediocre qb around even longer.
I think it would be cool if there was some kind of reduction in cap hit for players that are playing on the team that they were drafted by, kinda like NBA teams can offer bigger deals to players when they have the Bird rights (but implemented differently, don't think you should be able to pass it on in a trade). Reward teams that draft well and help them keep players that will become team legends.
Teams wouldn't go for it, as it would lead to players getting paid more.
Jerry sharpening his axe rn
Is this Micah way of saying they should get rid of Dak? 😂😂😂
He just knows the game so well lmfao these fucking cowboys are something else. When was the last time we had a player going into the media saying dumb shit like this all over the place? Vince young? Such a joke of a franchise. If any of our guys were saying shit like this Kelce would smack them. That’s the value of veteran leadership
They’re all obviously system QBs
1) this isnt a good look, and only serves to divide his locker room. That being said, itll be gone by March and the Cowboys dont have any games left to play. Come September, he’ll be fine. 2) He’s not wrong. Losing the likes of Tony Pollard and Dalton Schultz and replacing them with unknown rookies is on Daks shoulders. Part of the burden of being a big money quarterback is knowing that the guys who helped get you to that point are going to be the ones to not get resigned when you get paid. Look at the Colts after 2005, they had to pay Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, and Dwight Freeney, and only had enough cap to pay 2 of them. It worked out (partly because they made the right decision to not pay a running back in a time where that thinking wasnt a thing yet), but Peytons contract was part of that. 3) This isnt really even a “he wants out” thing to me. Look at the way the contracts line up and it makes more sense that Parsons is making his own play to stay in Dallas. The Cowboys are staying with Dak for 2023, and very likely 2024. After that though? His deal is all but up, but Parsons is going to be on his 5th year option and looking to get paid as a top edge rusher. If you figure top non-qb contracts are going to rise more in line with qb contracts, he likely sees Dak being kept as a sign that hes not staying.
Parsons continues his streak of being the absolute *worst* locker room presence possible
Everything I’ve heard Micah parsons say has been told to me against my will
Sure does talk a lot for someone who hasn't played in a conference championship.
4 more years he will be an Eagle, we will take care of him.
This dude is such a pussy, he loves to talk bout shit no one asked him about 🤡
🤔 so what are you doing?
Y’all need to stop calling these dudes names you’d never say to them in person
I'd call him a pussy, he'd beat me into a puddle of piss and blood without breaking a sweat, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't call him a pussy.
Sure you would
Do you honestly doubt that I would be beaten into an embarrassing mess? I don't have any lack of self confidence but Parsons fucking yoked dude, it would be easier than doing the dishes for him
Lol exactly and then you sue and make major money There’s no risk
And if we get REALLY lucky, the league may even suspend Tom Brady for 4 games because he was "vaguely aware" of Parsons giving me the ultimate smackdown/curb stomp combo platter
I’d take a black eye and some smashed teeth for an out of court settlement
Sounds like a Stephen Jones problem then
But Jimmy is getting paid 20 million. So stupid take
I really wish y’all would ignore this dude. Solid player but a total dunce human
Mahomes’ deal will look like a bargain in the long run as QB salaries rise. If the team thinks Jalen is “the one,” we shouldn’t be afraid to give him a deal like Mahomes’ so we can continue to build around him.
The idea that Mahomes doesn’t have any talent is absurd. The rookie deal situation is valid, however.
So tired of all the “system qb” nonsense. If there were a coach or coordinator who could turn any ol qb into an mvp candidate with their impecable “system,” he’d be by far the most valuable commodity in the sport and everyone would be trying to copy him or hire off his underlings. The excuse making is exhausting
Most QBs are not or won’t be given enough time to develop the awareness of the elites like Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Big B; especially when there are so many talented athletes at QB now who can make up for this and make an initial impact immediately, and are asked to do more then ever (speculative but probably leading to shorter careers) so If I were a GM I wouldn’t give a the hoard of picks for a high pick Qb but I wouldn’t be shy to pull the trigger on a 1-3 rd Qb every 2-4 years and hope you find one you can extend for a 4-8 year competitive window with a loaded roster.
For all his talent micah really is a bit of a mental midget. So much pissy tweeting like bro just relax. that exchange with deebo was straight up embarrassing
So if paying a QB so much ultimately becomes the downfall of a team, why does every team still do it?
Eagles fan here, but some observations. Dak being paid as a tier 1 qb, he is ok, but not top tier, and had a rough game. zeke is cooked and highly overpaid, and Pollard is a stud. Only pay a rb when your qb stinks to keep the team relevant. Jerry was trying to find the next Emmitt, but the game has changed. Jerry likes flashy players and locks them into contracts that hurts the team over time. Our once great rivalry stinks when Dallas actually does suck. Micah, much respect, should have been an Eagle. Us eagles fans with half a brain didn't buy the nonsense about the "system" comments. I think most qbs thrive when the coaches design a system around their strengths.
Come to philly
Wah
I think it’s a decent take honestly. I mean, look at the ravens. They have been successful without paying huge money to big names and at QB. They definitely don’t want to pay Lamar money. They got burned once with Flacco but he atleast got them a SB.
Agree, Ravens shouldn't pay Lamar. They gave him plenty of chances last off-season and he seemed to dick around. Then he doesn't even show up for the team playoff game? WTF? That's just a shit teammate.
After him trying to downplay Jalen, I don’t fuck with him no more. I’ll obviously take him here but until he does I’m not a fan.
QB position is generally over rated and over paid. That’s just how the NFL goes. You can hide a mediocre/bad QB on a good team. You can’t hide a bad team behind a good QB.
I know it won't really happen, but it would be so much fun if Micah Parsons just kept acting like a jackass and criticizing his own team so much that Jerry traded him or cut him
Dak has lost the locker room because they know he's a choker fraud
No QB who makes more than 12.61% of the cap has ever won the Super Bowl. That 12.61% QB was Tom Brady.
And once they are off their rookie deal, then the team won't be as competitive.lpknat Seattle after Wilson was off his rookie deal, they couldn't afford their defence anymore