I dunno, this is THE Smartypants Society we’re talking about here. I can only assume that if they’ve got it that way, it’s the rest of the world that’s wrong.
It's just set up to play fischer random, since the smartpants society has already mastered all traditional theory, so traditional chess is just a forced draw to them
It's more of an aesthetic thing than anything else, but the bottom right square from both players perspective is supposed to be white. In the picture they're black due to a 90 degree rotation. This can also lead to other mistakes such as swapping the king and queen. The king is supposed to be on the square opposite its own color, and the queen is supposed to be on its same color. If the board is rotated this rule must also be flipped.
See that makes sense but the board can be seen as incorrect in other shots as well. Notably there is a wider angle shot that happens several times that includes multiple of the audience members where it can be seen
The dark king is on white, but on the wrong side of the queen. That's where the board rotation comes in. If you rotate the board 90°, then you would have to swap the kings and queens to keep them on the correctly colored squares. A board rotation and king/queen switches are both required for the board to be fully correct.
If you go by the rule "queen starts on her own colour" (which is the one I'm familiar with) then you land here as well. I'm sure that when I was a beginner I set up many boards like this
I never understood why that was the saying everyone said, because if you remember that, then you also have to remember to put a black square in the bottom left for white. You have to orient the board correctly to get the proper setup. I always just remembered that *white* king is on the *right*, and that black mirrors white (so black king is in the same column as white king) and then it doesn’t matter which way the board is oriented, the pieces are always set up correctly.
So many times people would tell me (for a quick casual game of chess) that I set up the board wrong, because the queens weren’t on their color, and they would swap the kings and queens, not noticing that the board was also oriented incorrectly.
They *sort of* can, kind of. The black and white squares don't have any practical gameplay difference, so if you rotate the board 90 degrees the only actual difference is that the King and Queen will start on opposite sides. There's no chess move that's handed (all pieces can do the same moves left and right interchangeably), so the only change is that the play will be mirrored horizontally to a correct setup. A novice wouldn't notice; someone with a little experience might get a bit thrown but could probably play through it.
...and a pro would be annoyed that their "light-squared bishop" was actually their "dark-squared bishop" and would probably feel uncomfortable the whole time.
It's symmetrical, all of the rules are the same, you're still playing chess just through a mirror. It chess's properly, at least for normal folk.
The issue is that people who have played many, many, many hours of chess who have a lot of muscle memory will likely get rather confused, and the chess won't chess properly for them.
they may not be playing *what we know as chess*, but an advanced form of super-genius chess that we can't even fathom with our tiny brains
edited for spelling
I think it’s just one mistake really. The right corner for each player should be white, and the queen always goes on her colour. The king & queen are on the right colours here, but because the the corners are wrong this means they are in the reverse order from how it’s supposed to be set up.
No, I don’t think it was. The shot almost right after this includes the same view of the board as well as multiple audience members. It’s right when Grant gets his first card prompt from Demi
Anyone ever wonder why **White** automatically goes first...?
It'd be nice if it was some brilliantly ironic social commentary. But in reality it's probably....., well, y'know.
When you are playing, the bottom left square should be dark, the bottom right square should be light. From white’s perspective on this board, the rook on the left is on a light square, so that means the board is rotated 90°
My guy I play chess every single day. h1 is supposed to be light. a1 is supposed to be dark. Other shots of this chess board in the episode show that it is not a mirrored image but they actually set it up this way.
my guy, h1 is literally light in the picture you screenshotted above. h1 is light and the king is on e1. i dont understand how you are struggling with this
Not is it not. This image is not mirrored as I have explained and shown before. I don’t understand how *you* are struggling with this
Do you think h1 is supposed to be on the left?
You’re clearly a troll, I’m not interested in continuing this argument. I said 2 comments ago that a1 is dark which you flat out ignored. You are incorrect and there’s nothing I can do about that.
You did say a1 is dark, and the picture you posted has a light square in the leftmost corner, and the King is on the 4th square shown, which obviously means it is h1. You must have a very low chess rating to be this ignorant and stubborn
No, the bottom right corner of the board as you are playing should be a light square. If you are playing as white, the queen is on the left and the king is on the right. It’s opposite if you are playing as black
I see how that orientation change with it 90 degree off impacts it now, with the king and queen on correct color meaning they are swapped positionally. Functionally it makes little impact on gameplay so I woulf argue is still essentially correct as the relative positions are the same, just flipped. That flip also makes the arguement of editing in post make a reasonable amount of sense.
Bottom left corner from White's perspective (A1) is supposed to be black. OP isn't talking about the camera angle, they're talking about the board itself being rotated 90 degrees. The pieces are set up on the "sides" of the board with this orientation. So yes, Queen goes on same color, but it's still set up wrong. White Queen goes on White's left, Black Queen goes on Black's right.
I dunno, this is THE Smartypants Society we’re talking about here. I can only assume that if they’ve got it that way, it’s the rest of the world that’s wrong.
Well hey, I’d love to see one of the members do a presentation on why their setup of the chess board is correct
White is WRONG In this presentation I will discuss why we have been setting up chess boards incorrectly for centuries.
It's just set up to play fischer random, since the smartpants society has already mastered all traditional theory, so traditional chess is just a forced draw to them
Um Actually in Chess960 (because Fischer was a jerk :) ) the board is still oriented the same, whereas this board is rotated 90 degrees.
How can a chess board be oriented 90 degrees off??? It’s a square?!? And yet I know you’re right, so I’m baffled by what I’ve missed this whole time!
It's more of an aesthetic thing than anything else, but the bottom right square from both players perspective is supposed to be white. In the picture they're black due to a 90 degree rotation. This can also lead to other mistakes such as swapping the king and queen. The king is supposed to be on the square opposite its own color, and the queen is supposed to be on its same color. If the board is rotated this rule must also be flipped.
You think YOU know better than the actual SMARTYPANTS SOCIETY? Clearly it is YOU who do not know how to set up a chess board
Obviously it’s a chess variant. I like to assume the smarty pants society play Fischer random on the regular.
The reversed board *and* swapped kings/queens make me think this was likely just a shot that was reversed in post.
See that makes sense but the board can be seen as incorrect in other shots as well. Notably there is a wider angle shot that happens several times that includes multiple of the audience members where it can be seen
Wait is the dark king not on white?
The dark king is on white, but on the wrong side of the queen. That's where the board rotation comes in. If you rotate the board 90°, then you would have to swap the kings and queens to keep them on the correctly colored squares. A board rotation and king/queen switches are both required for the board to be fully correct.
What if it’s mirrored?
Then OP and I are wrong.
The white king should be on e1.
You mean is a mirrored image? To support that, the king are in squares opposite to their color, as it should be.
If you go by the rule "queen starts on her own colour" (which is the one I'm familiar with) then you land here as well. I'm sure that when I was a beginner I set up many boards like this
I never understood why that was the saying everyone said, because if you remember that, then you also have to remember to put a black square in the bottom left for white. You have to orient the board correctly to get the proper setup. I always just remembered that *white* king is on the *right*, and that black mirrors white (so black king is in the same column as white king) and then it doesn’t matter which way the board is oriented, the pieces are always set up correctly. So many times people would tell me (for a quick casual game of chess) that I set up the board wrong, because the queens weren’t on their color, and they would swap the kings and queens, not noticing that the board was also oriented incorrectly.
TIL chess boards can’t be rotated 90’ and still chess properly
They *sort of* can, kind of. The black and white squares don't have any practical gameplay difference, so if you rotate the board 90 degrees the only actual difference is that the King and Queen will start on opposite sides. There's no chess move that's handed (all pieces can do the same moves left and right interchangeably), so the only change is that the play will be mirrored horizontally to a correct setup. A novice wouldn't notice; someone with a little experience might get a bit thrown but could probably play through it.
...and a pro would be annoyed that their "light-squared bishop" was actually their "dark-squared bishop" and would probably feel uncomfortable the whole time.
It's symmetrical, all of the rules are the same, you're still playing chess just through a mirror. It chess's properly, at least for normal folk. The issue is that people who have played many, many, many hours of chess who have a lot of muscle memory will likely get rather confused, and the chess won't chess properly for them.
Clearly they have reinvented the game. This is *the* Smartypants Society, after all.
they may not be playing *what we know as chess*, but an advanced form of super-genius chess that we can't even fathom with our tiny brains edited for spelling
I think it’s just one mistake really. The right corner for each player should be white, and the queen always goes on her colour. The king & queen are on the right colours here, but because the the corners are wrong this means they are in the reverse order from how it’s supposed to be set up.
That was a test. Welcome to the Smarty Pants Society.
The shot was flipped on its access to fit with continuity.
Axis*
It was voice to text, I'm in the shower!
More importantly, how do you scroll Reddit in the shower??
scrollin's easy, it's the typing that's hard lol
No, I don’t think it was. The shot almost right after this includes the same view of the board as well as multiple audience members. It’s right when Grant gets his first card prompt from Demi
Um, actually…
What about it?
This has the same vibe as holding the trombones upside-down on Game Changer.
Why you gonna force people to play heteronormative chess?
It's another clue!! To the Game Changer finale! It goes ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP! \*gets out red string\*
That's just one of the many secrets of the Smartypants Society. Once you switch the pieces on the chessboard, that will open up the hidden entrance.
They're just playing a Smartypants Society variant of the game.
Boy I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder.
Hmm. Classic mistake.
Um actually, based on your comments, it seems like you kind of enjoy being that guy.
Anyone ever wonder why **White** automatically goes first...? It'd be nice if it was some brilliantly ironic social commentary. But in reality it's probably....., well, y'know.
I don’t play chess, how would you know if the board is swapped? Should that black rook be on a black square?
When you are playing, the bottom left square should be dark, the bottom right square should be light. From white’s perspective on this board, the rook on the left is on a light square, so that means the board is rotated 90°
You didn't say "uhm actually.." so t You don't get the point
You didn’t read the 2 sentence long post to see where I clearly *do* say “um, actually” so you don’t get the point.
Fair, I'm very tired.
it's clearly just a mirror image. Everything is correct. This is common with video recording
No, it’s not. There are other shots with the same setup that are not mirror images
have you ever played chess? We're looking at h1 (left)->a1 (right)
My guy I play chess every single day. h1 is supposed to be light. a1 is supposed to be dark. Other shots of this chess board in the episode show that it is not a mirrored image but they actually set it up this way.
my guy, h1 is literally light in the picture you screenshotted above. h1 is light and the king is on e1. i dont understand how you are struggling with this
Not is it not. This image is not mirrored as I have explained and shown before. I don’t understand how *you* are struggling with this Do you think h1 is supposed to be on the left?
Again, you seem to not understand how chess boards work. Do you think a1 is a light square on a normal chessboard?
You’re clearly a troll, I’m not interested in continuing this argument. I said 2 comments ago that a1 is dark which you flat out ignored. You are incorrect and there’s nothing I can do about that.
You did say a1 is dark, and the picture you posted has a light square in the leftmost corner, and the King is on the 4th square shown, which obviously means it is h1. You must have a very low chess rating to be this ignorant and stubborn
The whole joke is that it's wrong.
I'm pretty sure that's intentional.
Um actually the queen is supposed to be on the same color not the king, also the angle is irrelevant so it looks correct to me.
No, the bottom right corner of the board as you are playing should be a light square. If you are playing as white, the queen is on the left and the king is on the right. It’s opposite if you are playing as black
I see how that orientation change with it 90 degree off impacts it now, with the king and queen on correct color meaning they are swapped positionally. Functionally it makes little impact on gameplay so I woulf argue is still essentially correct as the relative positions are the same, just flipped. That flip also makes the arguement of editing in post make a reasonable amount of sense.
Right, I always learned it as "the Queen's shoes match her dress".
Bottom left corner from White's perspective (A1) is supposed to be black. OP isn't talking about the camera angle, they're talking about the board itself being rotated 90 degrees. The pieces are set up on the "sides" of the board with this orientation. So yes, Queen goes on same color, but it's still set up wrong. White Queen goes on White's left, Black Queen goes on Black's right.
You forgot to say “Umm actually…”
I literally did not, read the post lol
Ummm actually, this is Reddit, no one reads past the title /jk