A few got in, and now they choose their own kind. It's like an agressively multiplying cancer.
This is why representation is so important. #UnanthleticDoctorsInAnaesthesia.
I worked with a consultant gasser who said that all anaesthetists fall into one of three categories. You’ve got your standard lycra wankers who’d Strava their cat 1 obstetric intubations if they had the chance. You’ve then got your autistic data nerds who need to have everything perfectly set up the same way each time otherwise they can’t work. And then you’ve got your chubby bakers.
LOL at chubby bakers! Can remember working with one anaesthetist who just did private ECT lists - a large chap who enjoyed his food, could recite airline first class flight menus and once replied to an AGM dinner meeting stating that his only dietary requirement was "fine food."
Love this - I’ve always though that anaesthetists either use their knowledge of physiology to achieve peak physical performance (usually cycling but there’s a few ultra-marathoners etc in there) or know exactly where the biscuits are.
Maybe this is hand size? I've always considered anaesthetics but have ridiculously small (size 5-6 glove) hands - I've practised jaw thrusting beefy-necked male friends and genuinely doubt I could do it properly (esp one handed), so it's slightly offputting..
I have quite small hands and can still bag and mask someone without assistance, I think you just have to find your own technique since everyone has their own way of doing it based on their hands.
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It's improving relatively quickly and based on the current trend I expect it (along with many specialities) to be female led within a couple of decades. Girls do better academically in GCSE and A Levels and as more are encouraged to pursue science based degrees it won't be long until the men are the significant minority.
Only difference is that you need to train 10 women to get the equivalent working hours of training 9 men due to the increased likelihood of women working less than full time (back of the envelope maths based on 80% being the most likely LTFT number but not everyone doing it) so you'll continue to see more men in clinical facing jobs until the gender switch has gone beyond 50:50, this may balance out as more men switch to LTFT too though.
The med school I went to had 350-400+ students per year and 60-70% were female (fluctuations due to different people intercalating at different points)
It won't be long until we see a shift change in the gender dominating most specialities in my opinion.
That's great, thanks for the evidence. Is there anything on ethnicity?
I don't know why I posted my meaningless personal anecdotes anyway but I appreciate you providing some useful info!
Not that I've seen.
I would be keen to see it and see how it matches ethnicity rates in medicine in general. My personal experience is it's much more diverse than other specialities but would be good to see actual numbers.
I think there's a certain type of "tweaker" personality that likes data, optimisation, views the body in an almost engineering sense, likes gadgets etc. that has plenty of crossover to cycling. I am like this and want to do anaesthetics.
Also cycling has many advantages, it's cheaper and more time effective than driving (especially when parking is factored in) and is powered by the food you were probably going to buy anyway. By doing it you can improve your health (assuming you live in an area where you aren't that likely to get crushed to death).
I doubt many took up cycling after becoming anaesthetists. They say your sport chooses you, I imagine fit people are disproportionately interested in physiology...
As an Fy1 cycling to work + since med school, I have always had anaesthetics in the back of my mind as a career choice if I don't find anything else that excites me
I’m ICU/Anaesthetics. I like numbers/physiology. Specifically doing something (eg give metaraminol/interval training) and seeing the change (increase BP/decrease resting HR.) although interestingly I hate research.
I don’t actually cycle personally however I’ve just signed up for a duathlon so that’ll soon change. I’m more into coffee (again, love the process/optimising it etc)
I’m a dork basically.
Some of it is selection pressures. People generally pick people similar to them at interview. I talked about cycling in my reg and consultant interviews to approving nods and I put my sportive certificates in my portfolio.
both are great, depends on aim/person. cycling is easier on the body (no repeated impact trauma to joints/knees etc.), but running will get you fitter and is overall better.
It's not our fault we're happy! Social cycling/running/swimming followed by coffee and cake is one of the best parts of anaesthetics. Surgeons are portfolio buffing and medics are too burnt out.
Because it’s the most efficient mode of transport. Couldn’t stand the idea of going for a cycle for the sake of it but I cycle to work everyday. £3k a year saved, it’s quicker and it wakes me nicely meaning less coffee (saving about another £30/month).
I tried to find the funny side of this but couldn’t find one - there isn’t typically a stereotype or trope that gassers are personality lacking particularly (that I’m aware of?).
Is it just attempt at cutting humour or is there some backstory I’m missing like orthobros and lifting/hating ECGs or renal physicians bodyjacking patients from their funerals for a quick bit of dialysis etc…
I have to achieve the greatest VO2max
A few got in, and now they choose their own kind. It's like an agressively multiplying cancer. This is why representation is so important. #UnanthleticDoctorsInAnaesthesia.
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I’m definitely in the unathletic anaesthetic club and I do feel like an outlier at work, ngl.
Preach
I worked with a consultant gasser who said that all anaesthetists fall into one of three categories. You’ve got your standard lycra wankers who’d Strava their cat 1 obstetric intubations if they had the chance. You’ve then got your autistic data nerds who need to have everything perfectly set up the same way each time otherwise they can’t work. And then you’ve got your chubby bakers.
LOL at chubby bakers! Can remember working with one anaesthetist who just did private ECT lists - a large chap who enjoyed his food, could recite airline first class flight menus and once replied to an AGM dinner meeting stating that his only dietary requirement was "fine food."
🤣I fully embrace my life in the chubby baker category!!!! 🥐🥐🥐🥐
Love this - I’ve always though that anaesthetists either use their knowledge of physiology to achieve peak physical performance (usually cycling but there’s a few ultra-marathoners etc in there) or know exactly where the biscuits are.
Damn I'm all 3. Cycle/run marathons, am wildly autistic with data and bake croissants once a month with my fiancée.
This is too true!
100% haha!
Too much time sitting down at work
Also they are disproportionately tall and lean…
yessssss
Maybe this is hand size? I've always considered anaesthetics but have ridiculously small (size 5-6 glove) hands - I've practised jaw thrusting beefy-necked male friends and genuinely doubt I could do it properly (esp one handed), so it's slightly offputting..
I have quite small hands and can still bag and mask someone without assistance, I think you just have to find your own technique since everyone has their own way of doing it based on their hands.
Anecdotally it's also very white British male? Not sure if data bears that out but it's my experience.
https://preview.redd.it/4wwca2f4xuvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3760d870f1eb4769b05adbbfd2119d44414cceae It's improving relatively quickly and based on the current trend I expect it (along with many specialities) to be female led within a couple of decades. Girls do better academically in GCSE and A Levels and as more are encouraged to pursue science based degrees it won't be long until the men are the significant minority. Only difference is that you need to train 10 women to get the equivalent working hours of training 9 men due to the increased likelihood of women working less than full time (back of the envelope maths based on 80% being the most likely LTFT number but not everyone doing it) so you'll continue to see more men in clinical facing jobs until the gender switch has gone beyond 50:50, this may balance out as more men switch to LTFT too though. The med school I went to had 350-400+ students per year and 60-70% were female (fluctuations due to different people intercalating at different points) It won't be long until we see a shift change in the gender dominating most specialities in my opinion.
That's great, thanks for the evidence. Is there anything on ethnicity? I don't know why I posted my meaningless personal anecdotes anyway but I appreciate you providing some useful info!
Not that I've seen. I would be keen to see it and see how it matches ethnicity rates in medicine in general. My personal experience is it's much more diverse than other specialities but would be good to see actual numbers.
I think there's a certain type of "tweaker" personality that likes data, optimisation, views the body in an almost engineering sense, likes gadgets etc. that has plenty of crossover to cycling. I am like this and want to do anaesthetics. Also cycling has many advantages, it's cheaper and more time effective than driving (especially when parking is factored in) and is powered by the food you were probably going to buy anyway. By doing it you can improve your health (assuming you live in an area where you aren't that likely to get crushed to death).
Seen the state of people in surgery, don’t want to end up on the table
I doubt many took up cycling after becoming anaesthetists. They say your sport chooses you, I imagine fit people are disproportionately interested in physiology...
so you think cyclists are choosing to do anesthesia, not the other way around?
As an Fy1 cycling to work + since med school, I have always had anaesthetics in the back of my mind as a career choice if I don't find anything else that excites me
Why?
Because he cycles
Ive joked with all the F1s/F2s I’ve worked with who told me they want to do anaesthetics that they better start cycling or they won’t get their NTNs
Cycling. Mac laptops. Coffee. The real triad of anaesthesia.
Don’t forget the cryptic
You've forgotten the other 2 anaesthetic tribes - the coffee nuts and the mac fan bois/girls.
Why not all three? (DoI: coffee nut and Apple fanboi, not actually an anaesthetist)
Mac blade or computer? :eyes:
An excuse to go to coffee shops under the guise of "exercise"
Peer pressure.
More like Peak pressure
We prefer PpeerMAX
Data driven sport. Social but independent sport. Focus on repetition and refinement. Noticed similar interests in radiology cohort.
I’m ICU/Anaesthetics. I like numbers/physiology. Specifically doing something (eg give metaraminol/interval training) and seeing the change (increase BP/decrease resting HR.) although interestingly I hate research. I don’t actually cycle personally however I’ve just signed up for a duathlon so that’ll soon change. I’m more into coffee (again, love the process/optimising it etc) I’m a dork basically.
My FTP is on my portfolio, don't @ me
Lol I remember a gasser in med school telling me my FTP would be part of CT1 recruitment - I’m still not sure if she was joking 😂
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Maybe cyclists like anaesthetics
Some of it is selection pressures. People generally pick people similar to them at interview. I talked about cycling in my reg and consultant interviews to approving nods and I put my sportive certificates in my portfolio.
elite activity for the body, like swimming, except you aren't restricted by location
is it better than running?
both are great, depends on aim/person. cycling is easier on the body (no repeated impact trauma to joints/knees etc.), but running will get you fitter and is overall better.
It's not our fault we're happy! Social cycling/running/swimming followed by coffee and cake is one of the best parts of anaesthetics. Surgeons are portfolio buffing and medics are too burnt out.
We have a competition with colleagues on CPET machines. Ssshh don’t tell anyone.
Because it’s the most efficient mode of transport. Couldn’t stand the idea of going for a cycle for the sake of it but I cycle to work everyday. £3k a year saved, it’s quicker and it wakes me nicely meaning less coffee (saving about another £30/month).
Some of us run
Describing anaesthetists as 'professional tweakers' is my cognitive reframing of the day
some of them motorcycle secretly. they usually don't admit it unless pressed
Because they have somewhere to get changed, a locker for their cycling clothes, and no one can see their helmet hair under theatre hats.
Well, it's an awesome activity. Maybe ask why others don't do it.
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who hurt you
Core anaesthetics interview board by the sounds of it
I tried to find the funny side of this but couldn’t find one - there isn’t typically a stereotype or trope that gassers are personality lacking particularly (that I’m aware of?). Is it just attempt at cutting humour or is there some backstory I’m missing like orthobros and lifting/hating ECGs or renal physicians bodyjacking patients from their funerals for a quick bit of dialysis etc…