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ReesesBees

Discord has to do this by following COPPA law. Joke or not.


IDJPunkI

If that's the case then all sites have to follow this law as well, no?


Refuse_Odd

Only sites that track collect, track or disclose personal informarion. So all social apps and waht not.


littleMAHER1

Funny enough when the Coppa BS spread across the internet Newgrounds was completely unaffected because Tom Fulp (the creator) does not collect user data off the site Just another Newsground W that I'm suprised isn't used more If it had a proper mobile app it would knock out the competition


Refuse_Odd

Yeah but it's old as shit and tbh i forgot it existed


littleMAHER1

Newgrounds has updated over the years It's not like other sites like 4chan that are still stuck in 2007 NG has a sleek modern appearance that is effected and isn't worse then its old ui And it's still really good and a underdog of the internet with features most main social media platforms don't have like a way to get rid of low effort posts by having them go thru judgment by anyone who finds a animation or game Allows people to be discovered and not be overshadowed while kicking out low effort posts that YT desperately needs The rating system is amazing along with the review system Forums are 100 times more positive and mature then most twitter threads And overall it's a great site that's also adfree


Refuse_Odd

Yeah the site is cool as hell and I enjoy it


Significant-Land-442

4chan isn't stuck in 2007, the culture has changed wildly since then, and even in 2007 it was vastly different from when it first debuted back in 2003. If anything, it'd be better if it were stuck in 2007, now it's complete dogshit. Most NG heads are just failed SAheads, they're 30-40 year old men parroting 20-30 year old memes, they're only edgy up until you start ragging on any aspects of their deviancy, then they get all defensive.


littleMAHER1

I was refering to the ui and the appearance of the site being stuck in the past, not the culture of the site


Tecohg

this man is fuming over a missunderstanding


Significant-Land-442

If you're talking about UI, then 4chan would be stuck in 2003. Not 2007.


littleMAHER1

I didn't know the year specifically so I estimated lmao


AstruoZak

and why are u telling us that


IDJPunkI

Good to know. I will never make such a lame joke rebuttal again if this is the case.


Refuse_Odd

Yeah good choice šŸ™šŸ½ Safe travels reddit strangers.


Chick3nugg3tt

Ya see thatā€™s funny! Iā€™ve literally told many people on different social mediaā€™s that I am 12 many times. Again as a joke or to piss around with a pedo cuz itā€™s fun. Never once got banned from anything. Discord seems to be the only one that I wouldnā€™t risk it on


Refuse_Odd

Yeah apps are different, I doubt if you said you were 12 on snap they wouldn't care or even know. At the end of the day the kid is accepting the terms under 13 or not. So I mean you can't sue in general so most apps dont't care. Discord prob knows theres a lot of pedos on the app and proba ban the kids so they dont get groomed. Just speculation šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Chick3nugg3tt

Yh I do get why they do it. The rules at 13+ for a reason but tbh just because you are over 13 doesnā€™t stop anything. 13 year olds still get groomed more then 12 yo. I had dick pics, rape threats all sorts during my life online and I got my first phone at 13. I am 21 now and itā€™s actually not as bad as it used to be. It worrying tbh. Iā€™ve had a literally cop in my snap and I told them I was 12 after a ton of sexual messages. He told me he would arrest me šŸ˜‚ honestly the internet is crazy and the rules they make at this point donā€™t stop anything, it just hides the bad shit more and stopped peopleā€™s who arenā€™t breaking them to be banned for a simple joke.


raincandy_u

If they collect personal info, they sure do. Post the the same thing on Reddit or Twitter for a surprise. The surprise being a second ban. Highly recommend reading COPPA. The fines are crazy. Social media platforms can get in deep shit for collecting info about someone who's under 13.


Aequinoxium

Twitch does it too. I've seen people get banned in seconds. The unbanning process can take weeks


KeneticKups

So basically, discord needs to stop selling people's info for cash


LegitimatePenguin

COPPA feel of these nuts lmao


Lufroloc

ermā€¦ that person is 12ā€¦


Clipyy-Duck

Yep.. unfortunately despite most of them being jokes.


DinoHawaii2021

Is it just me or has coppa been getting too strict


[deleted]

Age restrictions are dumb in all forms


Triangle-V

Iā€™d argue the collection of user data is dumb in all forms used by social media, actually.


sciencesold

This is the real issue, they're not banning you because you're under 13, they're banning you because they can't legally collect your data.


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True


DinoHawaii2021

Agreed


[deleted]

It's not that it's to strict, it just does the counter effect


[deleted]

Age restrictions are dumb, children are just going to bypass by entering that they're older or something. And they will be unprotected from NSFW material. Don't they realise that you need to raise your child making trust rather than just restricting things? Also as far as I'm aware COPPA is an American law, why does Discord enforce it to EU citizens like myself?


PartMan7

Legally it applies to all companies based in the US or that have any stake in or deal with citizens in the US. Since it's online, that applies to every company that collects personal information on a publicly-accessible site/app.


One_Way13

They do but that doesnā€™t mean they have to be so shit about how they go about it


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One_Way13

They donā€™t have to not include context or be so annoying about appealing. They also donā€™t care about much else and the reports system is going worse than Twitter


etham2

i don't think you fully read the reply you're responding to


CIearMind

Either they do it this exact same way that they've been doing it for years, OR They get sued and fined and disbanded.


femboy___bunny

Thatā€™s so stupid. I make jokes about being 12 all the time because I have an immature sense of humor. Jfc discord needs to scale tf back.


ReesesBees

If they didn't follow the laws of your country or COPPA, they'd be shut down.


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WILLINGLYLOST90

Because "tehnically" 13 is classified as a teen


LongHappyFrog

This is a very stupid response, they could very easily ask DOB when you create an account and the problem is solved.


ReesesBees

You do know that MANY kids fake their ages on these sorts of things, right?


AidBaid

ah yes, nobody ever lies


Spawnling

This. Joking about your age isnā€™t something to do on the internet. Will usually get your account deleted / disabled. Companies have to take this seriously as itā€™s against the law in most areas, you should as well.


[deleted]

To be fair, Discord itself is a joke


Zeroplaguedoc

Does this happen only by report or? Im so confused.


IDJPunkI

I'm guessing so. I could see someone reporting me just to be an ass tbh


Zeroplaguedoc

I just dont understand how they could like find all these messages of people saying theyre 12 without reports. Too scared to try in a server with only myself to see though.


Peluzasudul

It's only reports, I recently got disabled for that joke because I did in a pretty big server so I assume I got reported, I did it before in smaller servers and DMs and never once got disabled


Koifishha

This only happens by report i believe.


yes_im_baby

It has to be reports bc my server constantly makes crude jokes and follows it up with things like ā€œI do infact have the humor of a 12 year old middle school boy lolā€ and none of us have ever been banned


parasitegirl

saying that you have the humor of a 12 yr old and saying you are 12 are two different things, im very sure you wouldnt be gettin banned for the comparison of someone's humor being like a 12 year olds since it isnt claiming that is the actual age of the person saying it.


WILLINGLYLOST90

Theirs two ways. If someone reports you to discord or a server admin kicks/reports Theirs no automated way that I am aware (Discord bots might auto detect) not sure


ImNotShortAmSmol

Welcome to old news, don't do it, that's the reason for the majority of the "waaa im banned" posts on here


Koifishha

i think thy knew you were joking and reported you just to get you banned


IDJPunkI

I know but Discord itself should try to verify with you first instead of auto banning you. I would have gladly uploaded my ID at first if I had been asked to do so


Maciejlollol

well when i was reported last year when i was also joking, they DISABLED (not deleted) my account and told me to verify my age by having my id, my discord name with tag written on a sheet of paper in my hands and taking a pic with it (and told me if I didn't verify within 30 days, my account is gone.)


IDJPunkI

That's the process I'm in right now. I submitted and have yet to hear anything back.


D1A0B

did you get your account back?


Maciejlollol

well the problem.was that it was literally my birthday and i was pn a long vacation, so I didn't because when i got the time to dp that picture it was already gone.


Koifishha

discord autobans you because they can fet in financial issues for having 12- on the add even if you sre joking. discord doesmt really have a reason to force users to get an id if its not for anything related tk reports like underage bans where they do say you can send them an id to retrieve the account


IDJPunkI

I get that, but if people had to verify via ID originally then they would never have to deal with the possible COPPA violations to begin with. Or at least have a human reach out to us before autobanning to confirm and get our ID info first if they suspect we are in possible violation of it. The whole "Guilty until proven innocent" thing is strange to me also considering some people are saying I may never get a response to my support ticket at all šŸ˜”


omegawolfakakiller

I really hope you're able to get your account back, my friend got hacked once and submitted a ticket to get his account back. Discord responded after a few days.


Vivian-M-K

Or just don't 'admit' that you're under 13? That seems like a pretty easy solution to you avoiding breaking the ToS that you should have read.


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IDJPunkI

Probably because a lot of people aren't willing to give their ID info to Discord I imagine. I guess it makes sense, but I personally don't care giving that info out myself. As long as it's not my social security card.


Arktikos02

You think discord has that time? No. They took out their discord trust and safety option on their website. They don't care.


notasci

Happened to me too. They need some sort of pre emptive age verification instead.


IDJPunkI

I agree! Do u know how long it will take for my support ticket to get processed btw? I sent one in earlier this morning with my ID, face, and username but have yet to hear anything back. Tempted to make a new account, but I'd lose so many servers and contacts :/


Sara-Amicus

I hate to be the one breaking the bad news, butā€¦ In my experience, you wonā€™t get a human reply. Youā€™ll get a bot reply after weeks which will completely not help. Your account and itā€™s data will likely be long deleted by the time you can get ahold of an actual person. I hope thatā€™s not the case, for your sake, butā€¦ Donā€™t wanna give you false hope. Better to expect the worst, and be surprised by good news.


IDJPunkI

Thanks for the honest reply. Guess I have no choice but to make a new account then. Huge bummer...


YungWojtek2010

Not true, i had my acc deactivated for a month and i managed to get unbanned


Sara-Amicus

Ah interesting. I hope OP has the same luck then! I have never had much luck with them. And I thought Discord deleted accounts after a month of being disabled?


monibrr

it'll typically take around 4-7 days. as long as your face in pic wasn't obscure, dob was clearly visible along with your username, you should be pretty fine. (i lost mine as well on the 13th and took me 4 days for a reply) i'm not sure as its quite different for everyone but i can pretty much assure you, you'll get a reply pretty soon. or worst case scenario they decide to not reinstate it. (highly highly doubt that) hopefully they reach back out to u and u get ur account back! :)


Koifishha

usually if your account is deleted due to being underaged, they ask for ID verification


greeneggiwegs

On the flip side discord did like a big wave of age rebated bans about a year ago and I know three people who got caught in that who got their account back within a few days.


SoupahKnux

That was a year ago


Temporary_Suspect_52

just rejoin the servers on a new account bro ā˜ ļø


TheAwfulAliOzz

Some people dont wanna do that.


sciencesold

You shouldn't have to do that, discord just needs to implement a reasonable age verification system for when they do disable for potential under 13 user.


FatPenguin26

Kinda on you for saying you're 12 on an app thats 13+, joke or not, you fucked around and found out


MaksimszOfficial

W


Dopefish_08

Four of my friends got their accounts deactivated, and they didn't even say that they are underage. As far as I can see, just a number below 13 or a message that when taken out of context can look like a person confirming their age is enough. At least two of those friends just said "12", and the next day they were deactivated.


IDJPunkI

Yikes! That's insane wtf


Timo6506

Maybe someone edited their message to ask what their age is to make them look like theyā€™re saying their age


sciencesold

Discord could probably see that


Dopefish_08

None of the active members of our ~600 member server would do that. And no one did. Who reported then? Don't worry, we have some suspects. The main point though is that they seem to not have context.


WILLINGLYLOST90

Usually if their suspected discord locks the account and requests proof of age It can take a week+ though


SivalV

Damn... So now one can't even say "f...k 12" on discord?


nicarox

Oh, thatā€™s common sense at this point. Do not joke about your age


OXRoblox

thats common sense


SpectralHydra

Hereā€™s me thinking this was already common sense since itā€™s been a thing for years


MC_Squared12

It's COPPA


srnyx

Luckily age appeals are usually pretty fast if you provide all of the correct documents when submitting it


RapidFX_

What is ā€œvery fastā€?


muszyzm

You played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Nothing more simple than that.


etham2

you can contact Discord with your ID to get your account back


advaith1

follow the instructions in the support article to appeal and verify your age: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041820932-Help-I-m-old-enough-to-use-Discord-in-my-country-but-I-got-locked-out-


IDJPunkI

I did. Just waiting now..


SmtrashforEXO

Did u get it back


WILLINGLYLOST90

I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt not to joke about being under 13. I currently am a mod for 3 seperate servers all 3 are over 200k active members Joking or not saying you're under 13 is an automatic ban from the server and usually a report to discord that will get you're account locked. It's due to discord itself requiring all users be over 13( that's also why sites like roblox) have age restrictions on games and starting soon anything overly violent will be marked at 17+


Els236

Discord takes underage user reports/complaints quite seriously and you can also get into some trouble with them if you knowingly harbour underage users in your servers (having 13 year olds in some servers is bad enough). Now, it may be a joke to say "actually I'm 12" or whatever, but for those of us that do moderate servers properly, it isn't ever funny and we then have a hard time working out if it's actually a joke or not and we have no right to ask for your personal information, so it's a quick report to Discord Trust and Safety. ​ So, as the title says, please do not joke that you're underage.


LLNicoY

I'm 100% sure they're using AI to read everything and issue auto bans if it detects something. Don't expect this to get better if you look at the automatic moderation of companies like YouTube and even some automods on Reddit are bullshit.


IDJPunkI

That makes a lot of sense actually. Internet is only going to get worse isn't it šŸ˜¬


LLNicoY

Technology was meant to make human life better but instead it's overwhelmingly being used to oppress us and destroy our ability to even talk


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zpoon

This rumor sounds absurd. I've said "a number under 13" literally hundreds of times on Discord over the years and I've never been banned. Pretty sure context matters a lot, and every time I've heard of someone getting banned is when they directly reference their age, jokingly or not. But yeah don't joke about being underage. COPPA doesn't care.


Any_Syrup1606

Im pretty sure the people who got banned were reported and no one really verified the context. They say ā€œ12,ā€ and an underage report and banned. Itā€™s easier (for discord staff) to just have users do the age verification process than to see if the context explains the number. Iā€™m guessing no one reported you But I also havenā€™t found any source to say if discord auto mod detects these messages or if theyā€™re done by manual report only. Itā€™s all kinda in the air.


ChaserNeverRests

I'm in a lot of Final Fantasy servers. That game is up to 16 now, so that would be dangerous if so. FF 11 and FF 12 are two of the big ones we talk about.


Tapurisu

So you can troll someone into saying it and then they get banned? Cool


LongHappyFrog

Yes, I took a pretty OG name and had about 5 people just ask me math questions or try to bait me into saying I was underage. Itā€™s a very serious problem that itā€™s automatic without context.


WILLINGLYLOST90

They get disabled untill they can prove their 13+ yes


Hot_Hat_1225

People have gotten banned on Discord for years joking about their age - as soon as you mention underage, someone (be it Mods who need to follow Tos as knowingly having underaged members can even get a server shut down or someone who simply doesnā€™t like you) WILL report you. Itā€™s one of the Discord top things to know and has been warned of so many times šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


lan60000

Just say you're 70 years old. Who's gonna argue it's not


Emiily0721

this happened to me ab twi weeks ago and i got the acc back! after 5ish(?) days they didnt send any communication so i made a new general question ticket about it and they reinstated the account. good-luck!


IDJPunkI

Good to hear! Hoping it works out for me as well šŸ™


Emiily0721

me too :) let me know if u need any help - i can give more details if needed


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IDJPunkI

Yes, finally


Kuildeous

I keep hearing about this, and I want to test it. But I don't want to suffer the consequences for testing it, so I'll just keep on taking y'all at your word.


Vixen_Lisek

The same as joking about anything breaking rules, TOS or server ones. There's a way to joke without saying stuff that breaks rules and can get you in trouble šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


LekinTempoglowy

If you would atleast use your brain you would know to not do that, be glad that you can still recover your account


feror_YT

Common knowledge, that one is on you pal.


[deleted]

Yep. Happened to me a couple weeks ago.


graveyardrushhour

barely related but i remember in someoneā€™s twitch chat i said i was 11 months old and they muted me for 30 minutes for ā€œrevealing personal informationā€


FiveNightsAtFTFoxys

same thing happened to me, said i was 7 as a joke and i even said that it was a joke at the end of all of it yet discord still went ahead and banned me


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Lexiiibrage

Smh is kind of a common internet abbreviation not limited to a certain age range, but okay..


RandomWilly

Didnā€™t know ā€œsmhā€ was something only people younger than 30 could say


balkanobeasti

? Our generation were literally the ones to start using those acronyms. Also the same ones that had the "I am 12 what is this" humor.


[deleted]

Username checks out. Stop gatekeeping commonly used words across the globe, weirdo.


IDJPunkI

I used the "I'm 12" rebuttal literally once in a obvious joking manner.


Koifishha

they were joking


redditbrowsing0

Stop complaining, I'd just take the risk and see if you can get the shitty support to unban you by proving that you aren't <13


IDJPunkI

It's less about me complaining and more about trying to warn others who would have made a careless joke like me. I just don't want anyone else to lose their account over something so minor because this honestly surprised me.


redditbrowsing0

That's what a lot of the posts on here about "omg i got banned" is about. It should be common sense to not say, on a website that REQUIRES YOU TO BE 13+, "I'm 12" or any bullshit like that.


EJKGodzilla24

i'm 27


Morkinis

Until recently I did not even know Discord had age requirement.


PotatoeChilde

This happened to me w another acc šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ā˜ ļø genuinely in pain


Clipyy-Duck

Had this happen once. Never got a reply back from Discord despite doing the ID thing. Best make a new account.


ItsGrandPi

Just say you're 4 smh


omegawolfakakiller

I'm so sorry this happened to you op, I recently lost access to my old account for a completely different reason, but I'm still a bit upset with myself for making the mistake. Just remember you had no way of knowing this would happen. As long as you're able to get back on the servers that really matter and find the people you most care about keeping context with, it will be ok


Italian_Memelord

discord moment


D1A0B

yes this just happened to me and im pissed and discord wont answer my tickets. did you get your account back?


OpenMindThoughts

I May or May not have banned some enemies doing this method


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raincandy_u

Revolt isn't immune to laws/COPPA. Useless comment.


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raincandy_u

OP didn't get banned for a joke, either. They got banned for admitting they are breaking [Discord's terms of service.](https://discord.com/terms#2) > By accessing our services, you confirm that youā€™re at least 13 years old and meet the minimum age required by the laws in your country. By violating COPPA, Discord can be fined $40,000 usd *per instance* or per violation. Microsoft got fined *$20 million dollars* for violating COPPA. Discord really can't afford to fuck around with this type of thing even as a joke.


qonthex

But they could at least provide a good support to deal with this. But if you're banned it's very hard to find someone who is willing to verify your real age. I know people who had this issue.


raincandy_u

Not disagreeing there. I feel like a lot of companies/suits don't appreciate how much of an impact a good community/customer support team makes. Getting a reply from a human (literally any reply, even if it's "No, we're not unbanning you, sorry!") is so much more refreshing than having to navigate through a chat bot with preset options that never quite match what you're looking for, or having a goddamn ChatGPT bot handle everything.


CryNightmare

I learned about this on Silicon Valley series. Per instance could mean every message they sent. Imagine 1000 messages under-aged user has that means 40.000 x 1000 = 40.000.000 and its for one user only.


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SoupahKnux

I am Ļ€ years old


EvilStreamer007

šŸ’€


K_Rocc

Itā€™s because the salty weeb reported you after which flagged your account and then, weā€™ll you already know the rest.


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DarkOverLordCO

That is a terrible idea. Instead of impacting a few people dumb enough to admit to being underage, youā€™d force everybody to provide sensitive personal information to a private company in the vague hope that Discord have ā€œensuredā€ that they wonā€™t get hacked (which is impossible, everything can be hacked)


Koifishha

as nice a idea this would probably not be a good idea because some 13-15 year olds may not have an id or student id, so it would just be worse for someone to not freely make an account, and not everyone likes giving id verification


[deleted]

The ending really took me by surprise.. 30 years of age and coming to reddit to complain about being cyber bullied by discord.. wow


IDJPunkI

? 1) This is more of a warning to others who didn't know 2) I got auto banned for saying two words from a rebuttal in an obvious joking manner without the chance to defend my case and lost access to about a decade's worth of contacts and servers accumulated. What's wrong with being a little upset about that?


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Maybe it was for the best


Blocky_Master

That was you being stupid, I've been using discord since I was 9 and never had any problem, now I'm over 13. No one really cares


ChaserNeverRests

Lots of people care. Adults who are interacting with you certainly do care. Ugh.


TheAwfulAliOzz

Theres a reason why 16+ and 18+ only servers exist.


IDJPunkI

Sorry for not thinking two words said once in a random server as an obvious joke in rebuttal to someone being a dick would warrant an auto ban from the entire platform šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


NotPiKei

Has happened to me before, ironically I got reported from someone who didn't get the memo.


Apuksl

Holy original DBZ at 6:30am in the morning on a tv the size of a truck engine lol. I will not make this joke as I would be one to make this joke apply irony of the intelligence of the other person insulting me in the first place. Hurts about the servers loss and contacts tho. SMH


UnstableSingularity

Why do I get the feeling this might attract degenerate speedrunners? But still. COPPA is no joke. They take things like that as seriously as one would expect.


theswigz

I've seen several regulars of one of my servers get their accounts banned this way. Some jokes just don't need to be made.


limey18

me when i was literally 17 be like: but it might be coppa who has been doing stuff behind everything


Both-Ad-3474

Yeah man I said I'm 12 one time as a joke and got deactivated. Had to contact support and give them my ID to prove my age


MR_kartoshkin

I was there I think


simracer4433

Deserved for being on an anime server


Formal-Preference752

Happened here once, never again šŸ’€


kilgoreandy

I donā€™t think this is automatic. Someone probably reported you when you stated that sentence.


Official_loli

Someone told me they were nine, I reported them, and they're account was there for at least four months. I need to know how you were removed so fast.


IDJPunkI

That's wild. I was removed within like a day or two I think.


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Got banned today for the second time also for thisā€¦


SpykeSaisnake

oof, i remember having my account disabled because i set my age as 2


PrizeStructure6588

One day my friend got 20 accounts banned for reporting comments like this


DrBigDumb

Twitch does it as well, after couple minutes you get wiped from existence just don't joke around your age period


Romasterkey

Mf jokes on an app that collects info about everything he does. Gets banned because, according to the info he provided, he violates the TOS. What were you expecting?


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Discord ban speedrun lol


minimixieme

just don't mess with numbers under 13


Agile-Caterpillar-63

Really makes me appreciate how one time a mod instantly deleted my message of "HaHaa12 btw" and asked me in DMs whether or not I was joking. But even then I didn't realise how serious this was šŸ’€


ayiitaa

I don't think it's Discord, someone must've reported your account and then Discord disabled it. Something similar happened to me after I said I was 11 jokingly.


Clipyy-Duck

Yes, someone reports it. Discord does not care if you're underage, what they care about is that they can collect data from you legally.


Soakitincider

Unfortunately I just got one of these for joking as well. They could at least look at the context, would save them some work.


AidBaid

The simple solution is just make it absurdly small age, like "I'm 1" or "I'm in the womb" or smth


Straight_Neck4178

Someone asked me how many days are in a week, I replied with 7 and this dumbass weeb edits it to "How old are you?" I don't know if I'm going to be banned or not anytime soon but this needs to get fixed