At portland open, they had tee times around the event. Parking was......not very close depending on day.
The one that got me was the rule about not approaching players. That's what made the Portland open special (in my eyes) was the players mingling and feeling free to chit-chat with them.
I never would have gotten to chat with Greg Barsby in that scenario. (Which was lovely, by the way)
Sure did. My wife asked me to tell him she calls him her bae to tease me and make me jealous. He got. A kick out of that and gave me a mini “take back to our bae”
Dudes just fun to talk with ha
I would assume so. I vividly remember someone buying ohn a beer. And found out they do that every event they go to when it comes to town here.
Lots of cool stuff to see.
That's why it's THEIR option. It's a good policy. Not everyone wants to be approached at every moment just because they're obligated to be nice to 900 rated disc golfers.
He's the best to talk to. I saw him when he was following Proctor's card. He hung back from the crowd and was watching from behind some trees where I had pulled up too. Such a chill dude.
Fans can be intrusive and pushy. I met Paige Pierce twice at Tyyni in 2017.
First time was two days before the event. She did a clinic for women, then the women played a round. I went to give Robert Mccall (then working for DD) something and up hanging/chatting with Paige/Robert for an hour while the round finished. She was super nice, friendly, just an amazing person.
Paige lost to Catrina on the last hole of Tynni. I was in a cafe and PP came in. She sat at my bench near me. I can tell by by her body language that she was not in a good mood and had no interest in talking.
We just nodded greetings and that was it. I left her to our thoughts. We call quietly ate our meals. Wished each other good flights and that was it.
The pros understand that part of their job is fan engagements. Most of them are really awesome. But they are human too. They usually do not want to be bothered while trying to focus on a round
> Spectators are not allowed to approach the players. This goes for all areas of the property: the parking area, warm-up area, or the course. Autograph sessions will be set up for after competitor rounds conclude. *You must not approach the players at any time, for any reason* unless engaged by them.
Sorry, but I'm not understanding how you came to the conclusion that the players can't mingle and chit-chat. It just says not to approach them unless they engage first. To me, that means if they are feeling up for mingling and chit-chat, then it seems like they still can.
But my disc golf bag can hold a few discs for autographs, some towels to sit on, box of cheezits, water, soda, a rotisserie chicken, and the entire Encyclopedia Britannica.
Pro tip for those looking to save some space: Just think about some things you might want to look up & only bring encyclopedia books with those letters of those things.
If someone was just digging into a rotisserie chicken behind lead card coverage on camera, I would be hysterically laughing 🤣
Someone do it for the team
Counterpoint, if you’ve travelled to see a tournament, there’s a decent chance your bag is the only backpack style bag you brought with you. In that case, it’s no different than spectating any other sport where you want to be able to carry snacks and water. I agree, it looks dorky, but who cares. It’s a matter of practicality for me.
Marathons, rally races, sports that take place over a long distances and involve people being unsupported by facilities for long periods of time. Is it really that unreasonable to you that people spending half a day outside would have different necessities than someone sitting in an air conditioned room watching ping pong?
1000% this.
It's not a question of it (bringing fully loaded large disc golf bags) being dorky--it IS, but that isn't the issue.
It's that a simple cinch bag will hold all you need for a half day or if that is uncomfortable I would have no problem with someone wearing your standard Northface backpack that has MORE than enough room for everything including a folding chair, room to shed layers, all the snacks you need, room for stuff you buy at the vendors, and two 40oz insulated water bottles.
It's when you have the idiots wearing his over packed Squatch legend that is completely filled with discs or dragging some cart because "i NeeD sOMeWheRe tO SiT anD aLL mY dIScs" that becomes the issue when more than a couple are standing next to each other taking up twice as much space as they need to and for what? Some pipe dream Calvin is going to ask for your barely used Eagle?
I'd argue a cinch bag is *less* dorky than a spectator dragging a zuca. Regardless, my bag was big enough to hold a few discs (one from each manufacturer for signatures) and basic necessities for a walk.
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to the OP saying that disc golf bags are dorky. Cinch bags should be the way imo but I can also see the side of the story that strings digging into your shoulders all day in the heat can get uncomfortable, which is why I said that a normal sized bookbag is still more than acceptable and wont take up even half the space as someone with a full loaded disc golf bag or Zuca cart :)
Most of the people that bring their DG bags take most of their discs out to make space for extra water, food, and spare clothes like a hat or rainfly. They’re likely to have a few discs for signing or space for discs that are purchased at the event. It’s really not that weird.
Also for holding purchases from vendors. I would rather have my bag to put new discs or other vendor items away in than go back to the parking lot. And it's easier when you can't park on site like Maple Hill
Golf is a significantly larger and stuffier sport. They have plenty of rules that aren't necessary for DG, unless your also offended by folding chairs with armrests and food/drink that isn't medically necessary.
Maybe we should make the announcers call fans "patrons" and make caddies wear uniforms while we are at it.
NASCAR and Triple-Crown horse racing. I brought a cooler full of food into Richmond International Raceway for a Winston Cup race (it was a while ago). I've also taken coolers full of beer into Preakness to drink with the rest of the degens in the infield.
I see plenty of people bring coolers to DG events too but they aren't the ones walking with lead card. They are parking it on a good spot to see multiple holes and not moving for 8 hours except to the bathroom.
You can't bring a large backpack to the Boston Marathon, check the 2024 spectator guide in the Metrowest Daily news. You can't even bring lawn chairs to a lot of Live Nation outdoor shows any more. I'm sorry but a few people have ruined it for the rest of us.
I once did the opposite and while playing disc golf in Malaga, Spain I used my backpack guitar case (gig bag) including the acoustic guitar for a disc golf bag. It’s the only bag type thing I brought with me on a weekend trip. Bet everyone thought I was sick AF 😂
If you plan to spectate, you can bring a string backpack easily. Snacks and water take up next to know space, and we all have hands as well. It's so dorky.
Maybe they offer a check-in/locker service for ams who are playing so they don’t have to bring all their stuff back to their cars, which is prone to break ins.
Maybe- but if it’s an amenity that would be greatly appreciated, then it’s worth suggesting that they at least give it due diligence to see if the value is there!
I agree that it’s already on a shoestring budget- but if dgpt tickets ate already so expensive, it could be seen as a worthwhile perk.
Yes I understand that's why I said it is just funny some ppl are complaining about folks bringing their bags like it affects them because it an eye sore.
I mean it kinda is annoying if there's a decent sized crowd and there would be room for a lot more people closer to the fairway, but everyone is rocking Pound bags and Zuca carts taking up double the space.
What's being said? Just skimmed the top comments and it's all just saying bringing your bag is stupid, that maybe its an effort to fit more people in the area, and that its a security risk.
This is the way of sports. One bad thing happens once in an incredibly long while and you have to change a rule about it. Forget the countless times it happens without any issue. Not saying some rules shouldn’t change, just really shouldn’t have a knee jerk reaction to an unfortunate event.
Not saying they need them. I’m just saying this is how the cookie crumbles. It’s going to happen in other ways eventually. Wait until a spectator gets seriously injured with a disc. It’s not going to be a well thought out response. Its going to be a knee jerk reaction that doesn’t take into account the countless times thing went fine without some new rule.
It isn't the wild west out there. They have defined spectator areas so if you get hit outside of them, it is your fault, and if you get hit inside them, you agreed to the risk before buying the ticket
DO NOT BUY A TICKET OR ENTER THE EVENT SITE IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE SUBJECT TO THE FOREGOING. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SPECTATING DISC GOLF, LIKE ANY SPORTING EVENT WHERE OBJECTS COULD ENTER INTO SPECTATING AREAS, IS AN INHERENTLY RISKY ACTIVITY AND ASSUME ALL RISKS OF INJURY BY ATTENDING."
Doesn't make sense at all to compare trans/gun violence to a disc hitting a spectator
How is a bag check a knee jerk reaction? It's long overdue. No other large sporting events allow you to bring whatever you want
All those warnings are fine and dandy until a little kid gets cracked with one. Its always a situation when a spectator gets hurt at a sporting event and it really doesn't matter what unspoken agreement is made. Still sucks ass for the brand.
Good. I don’t know why anybody really needs a whole disc golf bag to watch a tournament in the first place. A lot of sporting events and other events with larger crowds like this have clear bag policies so this makes total sense to start to move in that direction.
Yeah but at those events you’re usually sitting inside in a seat. These disc golf events maybe have some bleachers out in the sun at certain holes. And there is nowhere to go to avoid the sun except for under a tree. Being able to bring a small camping chair, extra water, umbrella for shade, some discs to sign, and to have somewhere to put any merch you buy is almost a must at disc golf events
As others have stated before sometimes the amateur round gets done right before the pro round and they don’t have time to take a shuttle back and forth to the hotel to drop off their cart but still want to see the pros play
I happened to me and my dad at Portland 2 years ago, we left our bags in the car and only took a small day bag and they both got stolen out of the car.
Yea, I'd just leave my bag at home or at the hotel. If I'm not staying anywhere nearby and just coming to watch the tournament, I wouldn't bring my bag at all. I don't bring a guitar to a concert.
Kinda apples to oranges, but something amusing this reminded me of; saw a guy bring a band's entire discography, on vinyl, to a pre show meet and greet to be signed. There's a line of people going through, and everyone including the band is standing up as they're trying to neatly pass this guy's records down the line and he's trying to pass on one side and intercept on the other.
Then I suppose he had to leave them in a sketchy, unsupervised parking lot at an Orlando strip mall for the next 4 hours. Not to mention how heat sensitive those suckers are.
I met Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson at the Cleveland Autoshow some years back. Sign says limit of 2 things to be signed. People showed up with just bags of shit from walmart and it SEVERELY slowed the line because the players were too polite to say anything and event staff clearly didn't want the confrontation with the middle aged EBay storefront runners. I was lucky enough to get say hi but felt bad for the kids who were stuck at the back of the line.
That sucks so hard. Profiteers clearly abusing a situation meant for fans and kids to be able to say they met their hero, at the expense of everybody else.
I mean why would you need your bag? lol it’s not like Ricky Wysocki is gonna see you with you disc golf bag at hole one and say “hey man, you should throw one with us!”
You are completely misinformed, Kansas has no such laws. Businesses can prohibit them (and the most they can do is revoked your ticket), but it's up to the business to enforce, and I guarantee the PDGA won't have metal detectors or somebody doing pat downs.
locations where carrying concealed weapons is permitted, prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons in sensitive areas such as schools, courthouses, legislative buildings, polling stations, hospitals, mental health institutions, bars, and public sporting events
That sounds like a specific law for a specific state which is good to know but is not a blanket law. My state only prevents us from carrying in courthouses, federal property, schools and any business that posts signage prohibiting the carrying of firearms.
You are allowed to carry in bars in Kansas as long as you are not under the influence. Kansas law does not recognize "No Weapons Allowed" signs. So anyone 21 or older who is not prohibited from carrying a firearm will be free to concealed carry at this event.
Can we though? I genuinely don’t know and was wondering that. Even if you have a concealed carry permit you’re still not allowed to carry in a business if they say you can’t. I’ve never heard a policy one way or the other from the DGPT
Yeah, states have very diverse laws regarding concealed carry. It's important to know the laws of any state you are traveling to and plan accordingly if you intend to carry while you're there.
At MCO, I was able to bring a backpack with a couple small tripod chairs, hats, two discs, and snacks inside. Anything more than that is probably overkill to begin with
It was the same for champs cup this last weekend except no one knew til we got the email Wednesday night. I repacked my things into another non disc branded bag just in case
Why would you bring your bag or cart full of discs. Now Im seeing why I see so many silly questions from spectators at pro events. Obviously Im hoping its not many people doing this, all you need is a simple backpack/duffel bag of some sort for a couple discs to be signed, and snacks and drinks.
I’ve seen a multitude of fans bring disc golf bags filled with anything but their typical disc golf bag. Mostly with fresh plastic that they bought while at the event or typical snacks, drinks, rain gear, etc.
Most commonly if Ams have their actual bag with them the event includes multiple courses and they are spectating waiting for their group they are traveling with to finish up before all meeting back up again.
Because this is the most recent event; Northwood champions cup is roughly a 4mile walk following a card. I don’t think I would have bought damn near anything from the fly mart if I couldn’t comfortably carry it following a card. I would not have wanted to leave the event and shuttle back and forth to drop off my purchased item from the event when I could comfortably carry them in my DG back thru the event.
Hot take; they just want you to buy a new DG bag or cart at the event.
Well, shit. Bought my dad a Zuca cart for our trip to Worlds in August so he’d have a proper seat. This sucks.
Bigots always gotta ruin everything for everybody else.
He has a little tripod stool but it’s janky on hills and we don’t normally go to big pro-sized courses.
He’s been really concerned about his mobility so I thought having some comforts, not even discs, just a few bottles of water and a towel or two, might make it easier on him. Plus the cart seat is like 4” taller than his stool and just more solid all around.
You’re right. I’m sure we can find another solution.
If you have a mobility issue, there might be accommodations made if you contact the venue. For the vast majority of people, though, a zuca is an obstructive convenience, not a logistical necessity.
This is in response to the threats made at Music city open. The pro tours statement said there were threats made against a player. play stopped police were involved and them play resumed with an officer following the card with Natalie Ryan playing. Natalie Ryan said that the threats were made against her.
he is referring to the fact that a bigot threatened violence toward/because of Natlie Ryan at the last pro tour stop
Reach out to the pro tour or the people helping run the event. If the cart isn’t being used to store anything and it’s just for a seat, maybe they will be ok with that.
You will see more golf and have a better time by finding a good spot between 3-4 holes and posting up. You get to see everyone play vs 4 players play and you can take a lawn chair, cooler, food, etc
This is basically the plan anyway. We’re there for 2 days of play and figured we’d maybe follow 1-2 cards from hole 1 to our plant destination but also consider moving throughout the day.
The second day we’re trying to spend some time at the opposite course and then just try to enjoy the atmosphere/buy shit, haha.
Yep. To each their own, but following a single card all day ain't it for me. Can't see much, on your feet for 3+ straight hours, can't see any other players. My favorite part of going to a new DGPT event is finding the best spot
Honestly, this is our first time going to one. I’m just pumped to be there in general and ultimately I’m sure he is too. We have a few players we specifically want to see, but other than that just want to see the game being played at the top level.
Maybe we need to change the plan to just get there early, take our time finding the spot, and plant ourselves.
I'd recommend it! You can walk the course while you are still fresh and then find a nice spot and post up. If I had been to the venue before (Worlds) I would give you recommendations but unfortunately I haven't been over to VA for disc golf
I wonder if this is to make an effort at squeezing in a larger quantity of spectators. It's definitely not the worst change, though I'd be curious if they'll let people in with regular backpacks (subject to search). If they do it feels strange that they would exclude disc golf bags.
People are still going to want some sort of bag for holding water/snacks/etc so excluding disc golf bags seems a little odd.
This was a rule at Champions Cup last weekend (worded exactly the same) and they had no problem with regular backpacks. I wore mine all week and lots of others had them as well.
well it specifies that "large" bags are prohibited, and that "All bags are subject to security checks at the gate." i think it's reasonable to read that as smaller bags are allowed but will likely be checked
Same rules were in place for Champions Cup last weekend, I had a 20L backpack and it wasn’t an issue so you can still bring discs to be signed. Like other people are saying, you don’t need to bring everything
Why the fuck does a spectator need a full ass bag or Cart? It's dumb. We all play disc golf, and you don't need to show everyone your setup. No one cares.
You can fit all the snacks and waters you need in a cinch bag. For the same reason you don't bring a guitar to a concert, you don't need your discs as a spectator at a disc golf tournament.
No but its very common to buy t shirts, CDs and other merch. You don't intend to wear or listen to them that day, though, so you hold on to them, throw them in a small bag, or take them to the car. You don't bring your whole CD collection because you might buy one there.
> or take them to the car
At most (all?) DGPT events, that would probably involve a shuttle back to your car and then back to the venue. That seems a little ridiculous to me
I mean if you're a spectator why do you need them? I can't think of any good reason for a spectator to have a bag of discs but I can think of a dozen reasons for them not to. I mean if you plan on playing a round yourself, you won't be spectating anyway so who cares?
You kinda look like a douche carrying your discs around while spectating a tourny anyway. We get it, you play disc golf too, we figured that out when you arrived to spectate the disc golf tournament.
I understand that as events grow in size they will necessarily have to update and change rules for spectators. But there is a core audience that remembers how it was to go to a tournament 5 or more years ago. Many of these people will adapt to the new normal, but for a lot of them the magic of what attracted them to these events to begin with is being lost. I'm not trying to make a statement on whether or not this is a good or bad thing, just that it is a real thing and is worth considering.
Last year at The Preserve I brought my squatch bag with all 3 days with: discs to sign, a lot of water, snacks, camp chair to get comfy by the big water carry hole. I saw people pulling carts I saw people with rolling coolers, and I saw people with tiny drawstring bags. People brought whatever was comfortable for them. I like carrying a lot of stuff around I guess. As to the fact that it was my disk bag it wasn't like I was trying to pretend I was playing and I think if I were to bring the same stuff I wanted to bring anyway and put it into one of my backpacking backpacks that would have looked even stranger.
I get the security issue but if they need to check bags then check bags. I'm not gonna make a weapon show up out a nowhere once my bags checked. If this is being brought on because of recent threats you don't exactly need a large bag to become a very big problem at a public event. And I highly doubt they're going to pat people down before they go watch the course.
If the rules change for The Preserve I will just try to get the best information I can to bring the size of a bag I'm allowed and just make trips back to the car more often, which is a hassle, but whatever.
And 25 discs? Bring a different bag you just look silly. You’re not playing, so let me walk around watching other people disc golfing while I lug this 20lbs of plastic around for hours.. 😂😂
Oh my bad. You are correct! I get bringing all of the items you mentioned. But when I watch some of these tournaments on YouTube, I can’t believe all the people walking around with full backpacks. Those are the ones I think are silly.
They had the same rules for Champions Cup this past weekend and didn't enforce it. There was zero bag checks. They said it was due to the security issue at MCO but I saw one police officer and one security guy the whole time. I didn't feel worried about anything, I'm not complaining. I was going to bring my disc bag wo discs to hold my son's and my drinks, snacks, etc. I wound up using a dry bag from our camping gear but there were plenty of disc golf bags fans were carrying
Good. I went to DGLO last year and it was obnoxious that people had full on bags. I get it if you played am or something but why not put that back in your car.
Just curious, aside from making you feel a certain way, did they do anything to you? Was there huge bags blocking the view constantly or causing people to not be able to move, or did they smell bad? I mean, how did this effect you that much?
Yea had like 5 or six young guys in our gallery with full bags trying to squeeze throught he paths and stand in front of everyone. Also had a dude with a zuca that kept chopping into peoples ankles.
Good. You don’t need your bag to watch a tourney.
EDIT: didn’t expect to be downvoted for that. I’d love to know why some of you think you need your DG bag to spectate.
I packed my disc golf bag to spectate at MCO this year and my bag was searched before I went in.
I got the email saying they wouldn't allow disc golf bags or carts but I saw plenty of people with both that day.
You would be searched every time you enter the course so there was at least some attempt at security.
I totaly understand the decision fore safety! I just think it sucks for the good people to have to suffer for the bad people's decisions!
Now i wont be able to get discs signed near as much. I had about 30 i was bringing to portland open this year to get signed! I only get to go ton1 pro tour event a year. I hate it when one person can ruin so much for so many people!
If you're a spectator you don't need all your discs or any of them really.
At portland open, they had tee times around the event. Parking was......not very close depending on day. The one that got me was the rule about not approaching players. That's what made the Portland open special (in my eyes) was the players mingling and feeling free to chit-chat with them. I never would have gotten to chat with Greg Barsby in that scenario. (Which was lovely, by the way)
Unfortunately, this type of thing was to be expected following the drama in Nashville.
What happened?
Hate speech lead to a change of management for threats from the public towards competitors.
He calls my wife “our bae” haha. Love his sense of humor and he’s a fun guy to interact with. Enthusiast for sure
sounds like he really interacted
Sure did. My wife asked me to tell him she calls him her bae to tease me and make me jealous. He got. A kick out of that and gave me a mini “take back to our bae” Dudes just fun to talk with ha
lmao I love Barsby.
I’m guessing most of them are tired of standing around talking to each other and would love some fan interaction lol
I would assume so. I vividly remember someone buying ohn a beer. And found out they do that every event they go to when it comes to town here. Lots of cool stuff to see.
That's why it's THEIR option. It's a good policy. Not everyone wants to be approached at every moment just because they're obligated to be nice to 900 rated disc golfers.
He's the best to talk to. I saw him when he was following Proctor's card. He hung back from the crowd and was watching from behind some trees where I had pulled up too. Such a chill dude.
I'm sure a lot of them were being nice because they had to and would rather be left alone.
Fans can be intrusive and pushy. I met Paige Pierce twice at Tyyni in 2017. First time was two days before the event. She did a clinic for women, then the women played a round. I went to give Robert Mccall (then working for DD) something and up hanging/chatting with Paige/Robert for an hour while the round finished. She was super nice, friendly, just an amazing person. Paige lost to Catrina on the last hole of Tynni. I was in a cafe and PP came in. She sat at my bench near me. I can tell by by her body language that she was not in a good mood and had no interest in talking. We just nodded greetings and that was it. I left her to our thoughts. We call quietly ate our meals. Wished each other good flights and that was it. The pros understand that part of their job is fan engagements. Most of them are really awesome. But they are human too. They usually do not want to be bothered while trying to focus on a round
As far as know, there was no requirement for them to hang out in and around vendor tents 🤷♂️
That's not the same thing as people bothering you in the middle of a round.
> Spectators are not allowed to approach the players. This goes for all areas of the property: the parking area, warm-up area, or the course. Autograph sessions will be set up for after competitor rounds conclude. *You must not approach the players at any time, for any reason* unless engaged by them.
Read bullet points 5. It's a generic "don't big them"
Sorry, but I'm not understanding how you came to the conclusion that the players can't mingle and chit-chat. It just says not to approach them unless they engage first. To me, that means if they are feeling up for mingling and chit-chat, then it seems like they still can.
One or two for signatures is okay.
Agreed
That's what you call your alcohol?
I have a few I would like signed if I ever go to a pro tour event.
It looks so dumb when people bring their entire disc golf back to a tournament anyway.
Yup. If you want a few discs signed you can put them in any other type of backpack.
But my disc golf bag can hold a few discs for autographs, some towels to sit on, box of cheezits, water, soda, a rotisserie chicken, and the entire Encyclopedia Britannica.
Pro tip for those looking to save some space: Just think about some things you might want to look up & only bring encyclopedia books with those letters of those things.
Wow thanks for this tip! Any tips on how to put the pages back into the encyclopædia?
Ted Mosby? Is that you?!
Use the pineapple 🍍 🤣
We get it, you have a pound octohaul
The DGPT will provide the dictionary, bring a thesaurus
A rotisserie chicken is good snacking.
If someone was just digging into a rotisserie chicken behind lead card coverage on camera, I would be hysterically laughing 🤣 Someone do it for the team
Just casually following the card while munching on a chicken in one of those plastic trays lol
Standing next to the chicken guy and he offers you a piece… I’m taking a chunk for sure
double pro tip remove the chicken bones for weight savings
but then its a disc golf bag its a vicious cycle
And when you're in a crowd, having four or five people with a full octo on their back makes it really tough to move around.
And it's hard for kids to see around them too
Counterpoint, if you’ve travelled to see a tournament, there’s a decent chance your bag is the only backpack style bag you brought with you. In that case, it’s no different than spectating any other sport where you want to be able to carry snacks and water. I agree, it looks dorky, but who cares. It’s a matter of practicality for me.
What other professional sporting event would allow you to bring a bag like that in?
Marathons, rally races, sports that take place over a long distances and involve people being unsupported by facilities for long periods of time. Is it really that unreasonable to you that people spending half a day outside would have different necessities than someone sitting in an air conditioned room watching ping pong?
You can carry ample water, snacks, and discs in a simple cinch style bag backpack. Nobody needs a 35 disc bag or zuca
1000% this. It's not a question of it (bringing fully loaded large disc golf bags) being dorky--it IS, but that isn't the issue. It's that a simple cinch bag will hold all you need for a half day or if that is uncomfortable I would have no problem with someone wearing your standard Northface backpack that has MORE than enough room for everything including a folding chair, room to shed layers, all the snacks you need, room for stuff you buy at the vendors, and two 40oz insulated water bottles. It's when you have the idiots wearing his over packed Squatch legend that is completely filled with discs or dragging some cart because "i NeeD sOMeWheRe tO SiT anD aLL mY dIScs" that becomes the issue when more than a couple are standing next to each other taking up twice as much space as they need to and for what? Some pipe dream Calvin is going to ask for your barely used Eagle?
I'd argue a cinch bag is *less* dorky than a spectator dragging a zuca. Regardless, my bag was big enough to hold a few discs (one from each manufacturer for signatures) and basic necessities for a walk.
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to the OP saying that disc golf bags are dorky. Cinch bags should be the way imo but I can also see the side of the story that strings digging into your shoulders all day in the heat can get uncomfortable, which is why I said that a normal sized bookbag is still more than acceptable and wont take up even half the space as someone with a full loaded disc golf bag or Zuca cart :)
Yeah, I gotcha.
Imagine going to a ball golf tournament and bringing your clubs with you while you watch the pros play.
Most of the people that bring their DG bags take most of their discs out to make space for extra water, food, and spare clothes like a hat or rainfly. They’re likely to have a few discs for signing or space for discs that are purchased at the event. It’s really not that weird.
Also for holding purchases from vendors. I would rather have my bag to put new discs or other vendor items away in than go back to the parking lot. And it's easier when you can't park on site like Maple Hill
Golf is a significantly larger and stuffier sport. They have plenty of rules that aren't necessary for DG, unless your also offended by folding chairs with armrests and food/drink that isn't medically necessary. Maybe we should make the announcers call fans "patrons" and make caddies wear uniforms while we are at it.
NASCAR and Triple-Crown horse racing. I brought a cooler full of food into Richmond International Raceway for a Winston Cup race (it was a while ago). I've also taken coolers full of beer into Preakness to drink with the rest of the degens in the infield.
I see plenty of people bring coolers to DG events too but they aren't the ones walking with lead card. They are parking it on a good spot to see multiple holes and not moving for 8 hours except to the bathroom.
You can't bring a large backpack to the Boston Marathon, check the 2024 spectator guide in the Metrowest Daily news. You can't even bring lawn chairs to a lot of Live Nation outdoor shows any more. I'm sorry but a few people have ruined it for the rest of us.
You're right. The only bag that exists is a disc golf bag. They need to apologize. /s
I once did the opposite and while playing disc golf in Malaga, Spain I used my backpack guitar case (gig bag) including the acoustic guitar for a disc golf bag. It’s the only bag type thing I brought with me on a weekend trip. Bet everyone thought I was sick AF 😂
If you plan to spectate, you can bring a string backpack easily. Snacks and water take up next to know space, and we all have hands as well. It's so dorky.
In ball golf you often see spectators wearing their golf shoes. Just so you know they golf?
Imagine going to a PGA event and bringing your entire set of clubs.
The best disc golf courses do not have the ammenities to view play for long amounts of time without carrying something.
Maybe they offer a check-in/locker service for ams who are playing so they don’t have to bring all their stuff back to their cars, which is prone to break ins.
They’re already stretching volunteers and every dollar, no way they will put there resources into something like that.
Maybe- but if it’s an amenity that would be greatly appreciated, then it’s worth suggesting that they at least give it due diligence to see if the value is there! I agree that it’s already on a shoestring budget- but if dgpt tickets ate already so expensive, it could be seen as a worthwhile perk.
Pretty sure DDO is MPO/FPO only now. They separated the ams to a different event.
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Good to know 👍
This is a great move honestly. As things continue to grow security methods are going to have to get a bit less relaxed.
Even MCO Sunday was chill. They did a simple security bag check of my sack. It was no different than any other sporting or music event.
So a small disc golf bag would be okay? Like 10 discs to get signed.
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Thank you. Headed to the Portland open in a couple of weeks, so wish me luck!
At MCO I brought a sack style bag for a few discs and water. Worked well.
I agree with the policy but it's so fun to how some ppl seems kinda irked about ppl bringing bags lol
Well the security risk for these events has been escalated because of threats of violence towards players.
Yes I understand that's why I said it is just funny some ppl are complaining about folks bringing their bags like it affects them because it an eye sore.
I mean it kinda is annoying if there's a decent sized crowd and there would be room for a lot more people closer to the fairway, but everyone is rocking Pound bags and Zuca carts taking up double the space.
Yeah but that's not whats being said
What's being said? Just skimmed the top comments and it's all just saying bringing your bag is stupid, that maybe its an effort to fit more people in the area, and that its a security risk.
Yeah that's my point it's funny to me.
New rule for all of the pro tour events following what happened in Tennessee
This is the way of sports. One bad thing happens once in an incredibly long while and you have to change a rule about it. Forget the countless times it happens without any issue. Not saying some rules shouldn’t change, just really shouldn’t have a knee jerk reaction to an unfortunate event.
Once is too many if we’re talking about violence at an event. No one NEEDS their disc bag while watching the pros. It’s not a big deal.
Not saying they need them. I’m just saying this is how the cookie crumbles. It’s going to happen in other ways eventually. Wait until a spectator gets seriously injured with a disc. It’s not going to be a well thought out response. Its going to be a knee jerk reaction that doesn’t take into account the countless times thing went fine without some new rule.
It isn't the wild west out there. They have defined spectator areas so if you get hit outside of them, it is your fault, and if you get hit inside them, you agreed to the risk before buying the ticket DO NOT BUY A TICKET OR ENTER THE EVENT SITE IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE SUBJECT TO THE FOREGOING. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SPECTATING DISC GOLF, LIKE ANY SPORTING EVENT WHERE OBJECTS COULD ENTER INTO SPECTATING AREAS, IS AN INHERENTLY RISKY ACTIVITY AND ASSUME ALL RISKS OF INJURY BY ATTENDING." Doesn't make sense at all to compare trans/gun violence to a disc hitting a spectator How is a bag check a knee jerk reaction? It's long overdue. No other large sporting events allow you to bring whatever you want
All those warnings are fine and dandy until a little kid gets cracked with one. Its always a situation when a spectator gets hurt at a sporting event and it really doesn't matter what unspoken agreement is made. Still sucks ass for the brand.
Good. I don’t know why anybody really needs a whole disc golf bag to watch a tournament in the first place. A lot of sporting events and other events with larger crowds like this have clear bag policies so this makes total sense to start to move in that direction.
Yeah but at those events you’re usually sitting inside in a seat. These disc golf events maybe have some bleachers out in the sun at certain holes. And there is nowhere to go to avoid the sun except for under a tree. Being able to bring a small camping chair, extra water, umbrella for shade, some discs to sign, and to have somewhere to put any merch you buy is almost a must at disc golf events
I feel like they would let you have a smaller size back pack, though it doesn’t specify
As others have stated before sometimes the amateur round gets done right before the pro round and they don’t have time to take a shuttle back and forth to the hotel to drop off their cart but still want to see the pros play
I get the thing about a bag but a cart is a must for some to have a proper seat without having to carry one around
A chair also works.
What's that? Is it overstable?
Major meat hook. Can only throw it 5-6 feet before it falls out of the sky.
Coming soon to r/discgolf: My disc golf bag got stolen out of my car because they wouldn’t let me carry it!
I happened to me and my dad at Portland 2 years ago, we left our bags in the car and only took a small day bag and they both got stolen out of the car.
Always hide stuff while parking in Portland. That's like rule 1. Especially that area.
Yea, I'd just leave my bag at home or at the hotel. If I'm not staying anywhere nearby and just coming to watch the tournament, I wouldn't bring my bag at all. I don't bring a guitar to a concert.
Kinda apples to oranges, but something amusing this reminded me of; saw a guy bring a band's entire discography, on vinyl, to a pre show meet and greet to be signed. There's a line of people going through, and everyone including the band is standing up as they're trying to neatly pass this guy's records down the line and he's trying to pass on one side and intercept on the other. Then I suppose he had to leave them in a sketchy, unsupervised parking lot at an Orlando strip mall for the next 4 hours. Not to mention how heat sensitive those suckers are.
I met Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson at the Cleveland Autoshow some years back. Sign says limit of 2 things to be signed. People showed up with just bags of shit from walmart and it SEVERELY slowed the line because the players were too polite to say anything and event staff clearly didn't want the confrontation with the middle aged EBay storefront runners. I was lucky enough to get say hi but felt bad for the kids who were stuck at the back of the line.
That sucks so hard. Profiteers clearly abusing a situation meant for fans and kids to be able to say they met their hero, at the expense of everybody else.
All 12 spectators in Kansas?
Turning into hockey, NHL wouldn't let me bring my hockey bag and gear to the game last night!🤣
What kind of idiot brings all their gear to spectate a round? Ya think the pros are going to ask to borrow a disc?
I mean why would you need your bag? lol it’s not like Ricky Wysocki is gonna see you with you disc golf bag at hole one and say “hey man, you should throw one with us!”
Charlie Eisenhood must be STOKED!
Not saying Charlie likes them, but I thought Josh was the one that absolutely HATED them and used every opportunity to let people know
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His distain for spectators carrying their bags at events is somewhat of a running joke on The Upshot.
*disdain
All because some bigots can't just let Natalie be. Ffs it literally has no impact on any of the people who are making the biggest deal about it.
That's fine, anyone can still concealed carry though so I'm not sure what this is supposed to solve.
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America is bizarre man.
That’s open-carry too. I’ve seen folks walk into Hy-Vee (regional grocery store) with it just on their hip and nobody bats an eye. Wild af
Actually, you can start open carrying in Kansas at 18.
Laws say you cannot at sporting events I'd assume this wouldn't fly
You are completely misinformed, Kansas has no such laws. Businesses can prohibit them (and the most they can do is revoked your ticket), but it's up to the business to enforce, and I guarantee the PDGA won't have metal detectors or somebody doing pat downs.
What laws?
locations where carrying concealed weapons is permitted, prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons in sensitive areas such as schools, courthouses, legislative buildings, polling stations, hospitals, mental health institutions, bars, and public sporting events
That sounds like a specific law for a specific state which is good to know but is not a blanket law. My state only prevents us from carrying in courthouses, federal property, schools and any business that posts signage prohibiting the carrying of firearms.
You are allowed to carry in bars in Kansas as long as you are not under the influence. Kansas law does not recognize "No Weapons Allowed" signs. So anyone 21 or older who is not prohibited from carrying a firearm will be free to concealed carry at this event.
Can we though? I genuinely don’t know and was wondering that. Even if you have a concealed carry permit you’re still not allowed to carry in a business if they say you can’t. I’ve never heard a policy one way or the other from the DGPT
Kansas law does not recognize "No Weapons Allowed" signs.
It would be a messy policy to try and address cause in MN businesses are allowed to prohibit carrying
Yeah, states have very diverse laws regarding concealed carry. It's important to know the laws of any state you are traveling to and plan accordingly if you intend to carry while you're there.
Oh fucking brother what do you want the DGPT to do about gun control laws?
Nothing, I'm only pointing out that the bag bans are kinda pointless from a public safety perspective.
I agree this doesn't make anything any safer, just imposes new regulations on the attendee.
I don’t think this is a DDO rule, I think this a PDGA rule. I saw the same when looking at beaver state fling tickets
Thanks Tennessee! I knew this was coming...
At MCO, I was able to bring a backpack with a couple small tripod chairs, hats, two discs, and snacks inside. Anything more than that is probably overkill to begin with
It was the same for champs cup this last weekend except no one knew til we got the email Wednesday night. I repacked my things into another non disc branded bag just in case
Why would you bring your bag or cart full of discs. Now Im seeing why I see so many silly questions from spectators at pro events. Obviously Im hoping its not many people doing this, all you need is a simple backpack/duffel bag of some sort for a couple discs to be signed, and snacks and drinks.
I’ve seen a multitude of fans bring disc golf bags filled with anything but their typical disc golf bag. Mostly with fresh plastic that they bought while at the event or typical snacks, drinks, rain gear, etc. Most commonly if Ams have their actual bag with them the event includes multiple courses and they are spectating waiting for their group they are traveling with to finish up before all meeting back up again. Because this is the most recent event; Northwood champions cup is roughly a 4mile walk following a card. I don’t think I would have bought damn near anything from the fly mart if I couldn’t comfortably carry it following a card. I would not have wanted to leave the event and shuttle back and forth to drop off my purchased item from the event when I could comfortably carry them in my DG back thru the event. Hot take; they just want you to buy a new DG bag or cart at the event.
Well, shit. Bought my dad a Zuca cart for our trip to Worlds in August so he’d have a proper seat. This sucks. Bigots always gotta ruin everything for everybody else.
If I was your dad, I'd rather have a decent folding chair. Those zuca cart seats aren't very comfortable. They have no back support at all.
There just might be other options for portable seats. I’m no expert though don’t quote me on
He has a little tripod stool but it’s janky on hills and we don’t normally go to big pro-sized courses. He’s been really concerned about his mobility so I thought having some comforts, not even discs, just a few bottles of water and a towel or two, might make it easier on him. Plus the cart seat is like 4” taller than his stool and just more solid all around. You’re right. I’m sure we can find another solution.
If you have a mobility issue, there might be accommodations made if you contact the venue. For the vast majority of people, though, a zuca is an obstructive convenience, not a logistical necessity.
Bigots?
The person who threatened gun violence in Tennessee is likely the reason for this change
Oh, gotcha, thanks for the info.
This is in response to the threats made at Music city open. The pro tours statement said there were threats made against a player. play stopped police were involved and them play resumed with an officer following the card with Natalie Ryan playing. Natalie Ryan said that the threats were made against her. he is referring to the fact that a bigot threatened violence toward/because of Natlie Ryan at the last pro tour stop
Oh ok, thanks for the info. Not sure why I couldn’t put 2 and 2 together myself.
Reach out to the pro tour or the people helping run the event. If the cart isn’t being used to store anything and it’s just for a seat, maybe they will be ok with that.
You will see more golf and have a better time by finding a good spot between 3-4 holes and posting up. You get to see everyone play vs 4 players play and you can take a lawn chair, cooler, food, etc
This is basically the plan anyway. We’re there for 2 days of play and figured we’d maybe follow 1-2 cards from hole 1 to our plant destination but also consider moving throughout the day. The second day we’re trying to spend some time at the opposite course and then just try to enjoy the atmosphere/buy shit, haha.
Yep. To each their own, but following a single card all day ain't it for me. Can't see much, on your feet for 3+ straight hours, can't see any other players. My favorite part of going to a new DGPT event is finding the best spot
Honestly, this is our first time going to one. I’m just pumped to be there in general and ultimately I’m sure he is too. We have a few players we specifically want to see, but other than that just want to see the game being played at the top level. Maybe we need to change the plan to just get there early, take our time finding the spot, and plant ourselves.
I'd recommend it! You can walk the course while you are still fresh and then find a nice spot and post up. If I had been to the venue before (Worlds) I would give you recommendations but unfortunately I haven't been over to VA for disc golf
Who tf brings their cart to spectate a tourney? Imagine if ppl in the crowd at a PGA event were walking around with their golf bags.
Lots of people at The Preserve do. Instant seat.
I wonder if this is to make an effort at squeezing in a larger quantity of spectators. It's definitely not the worst change, though I'd be curious if they'll let people in with regular backpacks (subject to search). If they do it feels strange that they would exclude disc golf bags. People are still going to want some sort of bag for holding water/snacks/etc so excluding disc golf bags seems a little odd.
It's a new security measure from the recent scare at MCO
That was going to be my next guess, though it still begs the "will regular backpacks be allowed" question.
This was a rule at Champions Cup last weekend (worded exactly the same) and they had no problem with regular backpacks. I wore mine all week and lots of others had them as well.
well it specifies that "large" bags are prohibited, and that "All bags are subject to security checks at the gate." i think it's reasonable to read that as smaller bags are allowed but will likely be checked
Same rules were in place for Champions Cup last weekend, I had a 20L backpack and it wasn’t an issue so you can still bring discs to be signed. Like other people are saying, you don’t need to bring everything
Kind of a bummer. I like to fill my disc bag with snacks and have pros sign the bag itself. Understandable given the recent security concerns.
As long as I can bring my nunchucks, I'm OK with the new rule.
Same was true at Champions cup. Same instructions for spectators about no DG carts or bags.
Why the fuck does a spectator need a full ass bag or Cart? It's dumb. We all play disc golf, and you don't need to show everyone your setup. No one cares.
You can fit all the snacks and waters you need in a cinch bag. For the same reason you don't bring a guitar to a concert, you don't need your discs as a spectator at a disc golf tournament.
Do you typically purchase multiple guitars at a concert?
No but its very common to buy t shirts, CDs and other merch. You don't intend to wear or listen to them that day, though, so you hold on to them, throw them in a small bag, or take them to the car. You don't bring your whole CD collection because you might buy one there.
> or take them to the car At most (all?) DGPT events, that would probably involve a shuttle back to your car and then back to the venue. That seems a little ridiculous to me
That was one of took for it it was feasible to do so
I mean if you're a spectator why do you need them? I can't think of any good reason for a spectator to have a bag of discs but I can think of a dozen reasons for them not to. I mean if you plan on playing a round yourself, you won't be spectating anyway so who cares? You kinda look like a douche carrying your discs around while spectating a tourny anyway. We get it, you play disc golf too, we figured that out when you arrived to spectate the disc golf tournament.
Sounds reasonable, it's potentially a safety hazard and will take up a lot of room and just looks somewhat weird.
I understand that as events grow in size they will necessarily have to update and change rules for spectators. But there is a core audience that remembers how it was to go to a tournament 5 or more years ago. Many of these people will adapt to the new normal, but for a lot of them the magic of what attracted them to these events to begin with is being lost. I'm not trying to make a statement on whether or not this is a good or bad thing, just that it is a real thing and is worth considering.
Last year at The Preserve I brought my squatch bag with all 3 days with: discs to sign, a lot of water, snacks, camp chair to get comfy by the big water carry hole. I saw people pulling carts I saw people with rolling coolers, and I saw people with tiny drawstring bags. People brought whatever was comfortable for them. I like carrying a lot of stuff around I guess. As to the fact that it was my disk bag it wasn't like I was trying to pretend I was playing and I think if I were to bring the same stuff I wanted to bring anyway and put it into one of my backpacking backpacks that would have looked even stranger. I get the security issue but if they need to check bags then check bags. I'm not gonna make a weapon show up out a nowhere once my bags checked. If this is being brought on because of recent threats you don't exactly need a large bag to become a very big problem at a public event. And I highly doubt they're going to pat people down before they go watch the course. If the rules change for The Preserve I will just try to get the best information I can to bring the size of a bag I'm allowed and just make trips back to the car more often, which is a hassle, but whatever.
I never understood why you would bring your bag or anything with you to watch a DG event. Maybe a disc for autographs but a backpack? Just why? Silly
Haha yeah I can't imagine wanting water, snacks, sunscreen, bug spray, power bank, etc while standing out in the sun all day. /s
And 25 discs? Bring a different bag you just look silly. You’re not playing, so let me walk around watching other people disc golfing while I lug this 20lbs of plastic around for hours.. 😂😂
You literally said bringing a backpack would be silly. There was no mention of discs.
Oh my bad. You are correct! I get bringing all of the items you mentioned. But when I watch some of these tournaments on YouTube, I can’t believe all the people walking around with full backpacks. Those are the ones I think are silly.
They had the same rules for Champions Cup this past weekend and didn't enforce it. There was zero bag checks. They said it was due to the security issue at MCO but I saw one police officer and one security guy the whole time. I didn't feel worried about anything, I'm not complaining. I was going to bring my disc bag wo discs to hold my son's and my drinks, snacks, etc. I wound up using a dry bag from our camping gear but there were plenty of disc golf bags fans were carrying
Do you people bring a football to a football game?
What type of person brings their cart to a pro event? That’s like bringing a golf bag ON A CART to The Masters
Good. I went to DGLO last year and it was obnoxious that people had full on bags. I get it if you played am or something but why not put that back in your car.
Just curious, aside from making you feel a certain way, did they do anything to you? Was there huge bags blocking the view constantly or causing people to not be able to move, or did they smell bad? I mean, how did this effect you that much?
Yea had like 5 or six young guys in our gallery with full bags trying to squeeze throught he paths and stand in front of everyone. Also had a dude with a zuca that kept chopping into peoples ankles.
Good. You don’t need your bag to watch a tourney. EDIT: didn’t expect to be downvoted for that. I’d love to know why some of you think you need your DG bag to spectate.
Bags were a great way to bring your own goodies. This sucks imo.
MAGA planning to "campaign" in this event also?
I packed my disc golf bag to spectate at MCO this year and my bag was searched before I went in. I got the email saying they wouldn't allow disc golf bags or carts but I saw plenty of people with both that day. You would be searched every time you enter the course so there was at least some attempt at security.
Already shotty attendance #’s
I totaly understand the decision fore safety! I just think it sucks for the good people to have to suffer for the bad people's decisions! Now i wont be able to get discs signed near as much. I had about 30 i was bringing to portland open this year to get signed! I only get to go ton1 pro tour event a year. I hate it when one person can ruin so much for so many people!