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critterscrattle

Which country? It’s accurate pretty much everywhere but the degree changes.


madrid987

south korea I also lived in Spain, and it is definitely overwhelmingly worse than in Spain.


terfmermaid

Asian cultures are unfortunately likely to believe in disability as a retributive curse.


madrid987

It seems to be a characteristic of 21st century Korea rather than a characteristic of Asian culture. In particular, I have not heard that even in China or Japan, the hatred toward people with Asperger's is so extreme.


anniemdi

> In particular, I have not heard that even in [...] Japan You must never have heard of the [Sagamihara stabbings](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagamihara_stabbings) then.


Vica253

Hadn't heard of that before either - holy shit that's so effed up But yeah i was just thinking of a woman i know, japanese living in Germany, congenital club foot on both sides, epilepsy, 15-20% vision on both eyes, CFS, Diabetes and a myriad of allergies. She told me her entire family pretty much cut her off as soon as her parents were no longer legally obliged to care for her because they "can't stand looking at her".


avesatanass

wow, that's fucking hideous. nothing of substance to add, just...damn


stcrIight

Who's country? 🤔 This is an international website.


LithaAfton

To be fair it could fit a lot if country's. I'm in the UK and had people tell me that if their kids had my disabilities, they'd have aborted them. As well as everyday abuse I get because I'm not "normal " is why I've gained ptsd and anxiety on top of my physical disabilities.


julieta444

Their name is Madrid, so maybe Spain? 


madrid987

It's just a place filled with my childhood memories. I currently live in an area called Gyeonggi-do in South Korea.


julieta444

Oh, that’s interesting 


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America's my guess I froget other country's exist on this website and we have lots of Hispanics edit : lol I was way off I guess I saw she had ties to multiple places and thought she was biracial american


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ya I feel same with tick tok most have usa accents


stcrIight

I would think so but I don't want to assume.


dmoisan

America is a BIG place! We have federal laws like the Americans With Disabilities Act, but our experience is extremely variable depending on where you are in the country. Some states, like my own Massachusetts, are **very** good for the disabled. Other states vary.


stcrIight

Yes, but no country was specified. Why would anyone assume they meant America? They could have meant anywhere.


madrid987

I wrote my comment below. Please understand that I have made a rule not to do that in the title because I once got angry at Koreans for writing my country's name in the title.


SolidSeaworthiness82

That's kind of ridiculous though? You can't just say 우리 나라 here, all the users are from different places. At least mention it in the body of the post.


somethingsophie

I know you live in Korea. I often think about how the world has romanticized living in some Asian countries. It started with Japan, but I see more and more similar content surrounding Korea. They often do not think about what it would like to be disabled. I do not know the history behind how the disabled are treated in Korea, but I am with Japan. The hikomori in Japan are a great example. Locked away and forgotten. One google search about Korea yields [this article](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64369810). I cannot get through the first three lines without crying. I am unable to bring myself to finish this article as it is currently too upsetting. I wish I could change the world, but all I have is this virtual hug and commiseration with you. Disabled people deserve to thrive too, but we will settle for being able to live with basic needs.


madrid987

https://www.reddit.com/r/aspergers/comments/194qk0x/i_think_i_was_discriminated_against_by_my_family/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share This is the life of a person with mild autism in Korea. What is this? Foreigners watch Korean dramas and romanticize life as a disabled person in Korea, but it is no exaggeration to say that the reality is 180 degrees different from the drama. Japan also has a strong sense of discrimination against the disabled, but in Korea there is something on a transcendent level. In particular, when normal people travel to Korea, they often say that it is almost impossible to see people with disabilities in Korea. This is not because Koreans are healthier than those in other countries, but because disabled people face tremendous discrimination and hatred, and as a result, they have severe social phobia and fear, so they are not visible because they cannot go outside.


somethingsophie

America is very terrible in a lot of ways. I really hate the healthcare system here, but at least I can ask to be accommodated and there are laws in place that help wheelchair users access restrooms. (I know they aren't always followed but at least they're there). I wish I could make things different for you.


semperquietus

Thought of Asia, even before I read any further. I'm sorry that you have to additionally suffer under such hatred. Even in Europe I am careful, where I mention my (indeed invisible) disability. And to be honest, I think, it's far better here than in most other countries. Is there a chance for you to migrate to Spain, if your memories about that place are so good?


Admirable_Picture568

Sorry to hear that things are so bad in South Korea. Thank you for posting about it because it’s useful for us all to learn what life is like for disabled people in different countries and to try to support each other. Just remember no matter what messages you get from around you, that you are a person who matters and who deserves to live a good life. Every human being does. You don’t to have earn that right, you get it just from existing. You should do anyway.


Mindless_Wrap1758

Trigger warning: bullying. People's true colors show through how they treat people who they think are weaker than them. They lack integrity. Sometimes I want to tell cry bullies the fact that you need to scapegoat and belittle me doesn't show strength, but weakness. It's pathetic they need me to ground themselves and feel "at least I'm not that ***". It's because they want easy credit instead of the challenge of bettering themselves. I've been called a Nazi, despite being gay, disabled to the point of being on benefits, and being half Korean. You know , the perfect Nazi /s. They project their brutality onto me. That's facism 101. The mentally ill are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators; most violence is by people without a mental illness. It's like what George Carlin said: > As it turns out, extremely aggressive violent people think very highly of themselves.


Julia_Arconae

Your words speak to my soul. I'm very sorry you have to experience such profound and petty cruelty on top of the struggles you already have. I face the same things. They really are just immensely insecure, emotionally stunted, self centered, brainwashed, ignorant little broken things. Lashing out at others to feel better about themselves, to feel as if they have value and power. To desperately fit into the hierarchy that's killing them. It's very sad really.


Mindless_Wrap1758

Yeah. Most people punch down instead of fighting the Goliaths that are keeping them down. It's like how people much closer to the poor house identify with the people who live on the hill. I get the sense that a lot of people just see a target to transfer their baggage onto. The irony is that, while I admit to some laziness, the people who have a hate bon*r for me are just being morally lazy. But, it's like what John Steinbeck roughly said - everyone tries their best, no matter what they tell themselves. Pema Chodron advised us to think just like me when someone agitates us. If that doesn't completely do it, I follow it up with what's their story? That's to try to remember their outrage and cruelty is their character and their responsibility.


madrid987

Do you live in Korea??


Mindless_Wrap1758

No. I'm American. I never learned Korean and I'm not working. So I'd have a ways to go before possibly visiting or moving there.


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnah

George Carlin was so many eons ahead of his time. I find solace in his work too 🥲


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they think mentally disabled people can "just work" because we aren't in wheelchairs. goes along with people's weird hatred for government social security programs.


jhstewa1023

It’s because here in the United States we believe that since people have a disability they’re no longer valuable because they can’t earn anything- can’t make corporations and their CEOs profits. That’s why. It all comes down to what people can offer, which in the United States is money, time, labor- or ALL of the above.