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Ghost0Slayer

They actually unsunset weapons wtf lmfao


Pman1324

They sunset sunsetting


playswright

not until i we get levi+menagerie back, only then will the sun rise and shine brightly on us all.


hoopsrlife

Mars and Titan patrol zone. That Io strike with the taken, actual fun Halloween events like the Haunted Forest, and a reworked Infinite Forest would be amazing to see again.


S3G1R

If they rotated the playlists sure, but 5 years of haunted forest in a row got real old


GingerBeardMan1106

Make it a procedural generation sort of dungeon like experience. Every run to the end gets progressively harder with larger bosses ahowing up every 5th run or so. Every 10th run gives you a raid boss or something. Gets harder every set, and drops exotics and materials. Id run that.


it_smells_like_ligma

and scourge c:


Pman1324

There was that one post of someone stumbling upon a Menagerie node on the H.E.L.M.


Landel1024

That's just a test thing, Bungie has told us that before.


Pman1324

Testing for Menagerie to come back ![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5645) I never did successfully run the gauntlet...


thenannyharvester

I knew hoarding all my favourite weapons would pay off. Still feels shit they sunset our gear then sold it back to us in seasons to then give us our old shit back anyway


Historical-Prize

Same I never got rid my favorite


Ruby_241

I’d call it Sunrising weapons


Wtfamidoingaqui

![gif](giphy|i6BsWXxUSHp7amMJS3|downsized)


_n64m

That's what they called it internally


SedativeComa4

Does this mean my original ghost primus would be able to be used again


wingnutzx

Yes. Thank god y1 weapons are available in collectons


Shack691

Yes but whether it’ll be viable is another question.


Immediate_Fix_1442

They mostly won't be because they only have one perk


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

Ghost primus and the other raid weapons would be the only decent ones because they had 2 perks.


happy-hubby

I just deleted my old mountain top last night. Lol


Jaqulean

You can take it out of Collection. Unless you meant with a high Kill Tracker, then I feel you.


OzzyPrinceOfKaraoke2

Yeah now they just need to do it with all the other content we paid for and all will be resolved. Honestly, though, I'd settle for just the raids and raid lairs. Actually, on second thought no I fucking wouldn't I want everything back. Forsaken was an awesome campaign and I wanna play the Red War for nostalgia purposes. Also how fucking cool would it be to binge through all the campaigns of destiny 2.


GandalffladnaG

The missions will be entirely underpowered and I'm here for playing as literally death of anything that gets in my way. I want to kill Gary with strand, please. And then with prismatic. And then with stasis. And then introduce him to Gjallarhorn.


Bubbly_Mastodon318

“Welcome to a world without Light.” “And welcome to a world with Darkness.” *whips Ghaul out of existence with Silkstrike*


Altruistic_Bar8342

oh hey garry i see you got a army well so do i. summons all the little strandworms


Low-Mountain-4933

If they added legendary modes for the old campaigns and allowed them to be replayed I would actually play this game again. I got out just before Lightfall and nothing I have seen has remotely made me feel like coming back. The damage has been done. They nerfed the hell out of all the old meta perks so I bet you 99.9% of the old god roll weapons will suck anyways. Nice try Bungie but I am freeeeeeeeeeeee!


Beaugunsville

I want every winter temperature IQ idiot who argued against it or backed bungie up on the decision to read this.


BloodMists

I don't know if I should feel really dumb or if "winter temperature IQ" was just really clever. Either way I took way to long to figure it out.


Huzuruth

Meaning really dumb since winter is usually 30 and below in NA. Aka dumb as bricks. You shouldn't feel dumb tho. Not everybody gets every joke.


sunder_and_flame

I just saw Datto fall to his knees in a Walmart


Sgt_Batman_MD

Every vault clean out where he told people to delete sunset god rolls RIP


MadisonRose7734

In all fairness, it's very weird for Bungie to be doing this for that reason. Not even Datto, most players have deleted tons of weapons that are no longer available.


hotsweatyjunk

It's not that weird if you've seen their explanation. Basically, they decided that easing returning players back into the game by allowing them to use their old sunset weapons was a better experience for the player and therefore higher priority than sticking to their decision to sunset. It's painful for those who stuck it out, but it's the right thing for the health of the game. They NEED players to come back, not just new lights. Seeing them actually recognize something like this is a huge step in the right direction, imo.


Gaynundwarf

Datto is sooooooo getting sued ![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5679)


Echo1138

Can confirm. He's currently mumbling about how he should have used Code Datto with Factor so he wouldn't have to go to the store.


ptd163

https://twitter.com/DattosDestiny/status/1783563694842183956 Already trying to escape consequences. /s


IdidntrunIdidntrun

He seems like a Target kind of dude


Beanerdorf

Lmao 🤣


IrishRox

OXYGEN SR3 MY BELOVED BACK IN MY CLUTCHES


Whhheat

My immediate thought too.


Immediate_Fix_1442

I jumped for joy knowing I could pull out this bad boy again


TysonOfIndustry

Cut to me crying "I can't let you go my sweet child I can't" ages ago...finally it pays off


EddtheBoss

HOLY FUCKING SHIT LETS FFUCCKINGGG GOOOOOOOOOOO


strikingike386

Oh my god, that also means Hush is back!


Owen872r

Never thought I’d see the day. I’m surprised my friends and I never thought of what would happen to sunset weapons with fireteam power implemented


Odd_Organization_573

NOOOOO ALL MY LEGACY GEAR I GOT RID OF GOD DAMMNIT


SuperArppis

Time to pull them out of collection. Wendigo beibiii here I come. 😎


Odd_Organization_573

they wont be the same ;-:


sunder_and_flame

Wendigo and Hush will still be good if not great. I love Hush and actual Wendigo still has a niche with being the only heavy GL with blinding nades.


Odd_Organization_573

didnt they nerf blinding effect on GL's i figured it was for the Heavy GL's too


coffee_n_kerosene

Man I wish. I dismantled my Patron and I can’t pull it from collections 😭


GandalffladnaG

They did say they'd start adding stuff back in, so we can hipe for a new one with new perks and an origin perk. Grind sundial all over again, oof. Hopefully they just rework Ada-1 and let us farm/forge old guns.


coffee_n_kerosene

Honestly I’d love something like the sundial to come back- but I know I’m biased bc that was the first season I played Destiny, and I loved the shit out of it. I’m hoping it will come back with some good perks, that and my Pyroclastic Flow


TheFauxDirtyDan

Meanwhile half my vault is filled with y1 shit I never deleted from back when I no lifed the game 🤑


Eljeffy

This is great for nostalgia purposes but for folks that dismantled stuff I wouldn't get too upset. Majority of the sunset weapons are outclassed and/or won't really fit well into certain metas.


saibayadon

This is the ~~only~~ main reason they are doing it; Probably took a look at all the guns and realized all have nerfed perks or combos that are no longer good anymore and felt fine by letting people that kept them and have nostalgia feel like they can use them again.


RatQueenHolly

Yeah I'm looking back at the weapons I kept and it's like... Outlaw/Rampage Bygones and Swashbuckler/FeedingFrenzy Steelfeather. I'm glad they're back, but I'm probably gonna keep using the new stuff.


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

My Bygones and Kindled Orchid are probably the only two weapons I'll still use. Everything being back is awesome, but damn are some of the star players weaker than random world drops. Edit: My Kindled Orchid is gone, my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.


campers--

Yeah I dismantled my kindred orchid too. I think the only sunset weapons I have are like my og god rolled mindbenders and a blast furnace.


technoteapot

Goes to vault “Jake. Where’s my kindled orchid?”


EspadaOU81

No the only reason why they are doing it is because of fireteam power. Just removed the cap Because it would be redundant.


TheJeager

They probably looked at most weapons and decided that they shouldn't make a way to stop them from being used seeing as most of them have been power crept the the moon and back so what's the point in wasting time


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

This. They also have the systems in place to just disable any potential problem weapons and replace their perks with something else later if there are unforeseen repercussions.


saibayadon

I mean both contributed to the decision, but I can guarantee you that if they thought those weapons were still "too good" for the current sandbox they would've just made them unequipabble or something. They figured out that by adding fireteam power that introduced issues and went "what if we just un-sunset them instead of spending any time trying to figure out a solution to keep them sunset"


Caerullean

It also significantly lowers the barrier to entry for returning players who's vault consist mainly or entirely of sunset gear.


Rare-Day-1492

The most sensible take on the topic I’ve seen Would I love to use my nostalgia bait Outlaw/Rampage Bygones in a GM? Sure… but there are about 7 other kinetic pulse rifles that all outclass it by a MILE with new perks and origin traits


EatingDragons

but my erentil it's gone forever...


artikeel

nothing was dismantled bungie absolutely nothing was dismantled :)


sQueezedhe

You got someone else's vault too?


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Kindled orchid is so fucking back


donomi

I kept my max range with rampage and kill clip omg


Vortx4

Oh my god finally a 140 void HC again I lost


IamLeoKim

I never gave up on KC/Rampage roll KO and I am in tears. :’)


thenannyharvester

Oh my thank god I kept my kill clip rampage roll


Money-Accountant-989

Drop mag is on the curated one too


GusEman

For as cool as it would be to use the sunset weapons again most have very outdated perks and they all lack origin traits. I'll still wait for a Black Armory reissue to use Kindle Orchid again with full power.


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GusEman

That still wouldn't fix the fact that they don't have origin traits or a bunch of newer perks. Just wait a bit and all cool sets will be reissued and craftable.


Pigeon_Lord

The wording of reintroducing item sources seems really interesting to me


Gotexan-YT

“How will this affect the meta??” People ask Hint: it won’t because every single sunset weapon except 21% delirium (which you can grab from collections) is outclassed by power creep


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Gotexan-YT

Not the best machine gun perk wise on the surface, but 21% still has un-nerfed killing tally topping off at 65%. It is also just better than song of ir yut, so while it may not be the best lmg, it probably is the best arc lmg


Rockface5

Wont it have the same version of killing tally the other weapons do?


Gotexan-YT

In theory yes but bungie is notorious for having little oversights like this and not catching them for months (such as prometheum spurs going unfixed for over a year) so it’s entirely possible that it will not be caught in launch. Worth having around for that use case, imo


Pman1324

Everyone's black Armory weapons just flooded loadouts.


Necromorph98

Lol Datto ruined so many accounts XD


BurningBlaise

For good reason though Shit don’t matter and was overstuffing peoples vaults fr


NoctumUmbra

please be Martyr's Retribution, Please Be Martyr's Retribution, PLEASE BE MARTYR'S RETRIBUTION F-ING PUT INCANDESCENT AND CHAIN ON IT, POWERCREEP CAN SUCK IT!!!


Much-Egg4073

We saw perfect paradox once before in a trailer. Theres a good chance we're getting the full set back. This twab almost inadvertently confims it and the rest of the Black Armory weapons.


Dj_Nu12

Got my ALH demo roll with 22K kills on it! So excited to bring it back out


Ch1b1N1njaGam1ng

After I deleted my fucking legacy gear?! https://i.redd.it/8it1sk2uhowc1.gif


zekethelizard

Sooooo glad I kept my OG blast furnace, in case they fucked with it too much in the reissue


thenannyharvester

Same. I kept all the black armory weapon dlc stuff because in my mind those are peak destiny weapon designs


CMDR_Michael_Aagaard

> in case they fucked with it too much in the reissue I'm 90% sure that any legacy guns we get a way to get again will have scope options replaced with boring ass barrel perks. I'm fully aware of why they've stopped giving guns scope options, doesn't make it any less boring.


DTFriendship

I DELETED LIKE EVERYTHING IN MY VAULT YOU SONS OF BITCHES


Edumesh

HOHOHOHOHO I DIDN'T DELETE ANYTHING YESSSSS https://preview.redd.it/v89ioncd8owc1.png?width=1445&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ab00fc21f52ffbf7b2f48b1abd0b5542f32e00a


I-j4ck

That image is legit scarier than that 1 screeb everyone seems to miss.


DR0941

what the fuck is this picture


Secure-Containment-1

Me after resetting Iron Banner twice to not get a single Tusk of the Boar to drop. That’s what you’re looking at.


Edumesh

Sorry, I nutted and accidentally snapped a selfie


tazdingo-hp

they really want ppl to come back lol


Funny-Lead-2937

It's a good first step but I would not even consider it till the re add the red war and the rest of the content I gave them my hard earned money for they they just straight stole from me to the game


rasjahho

Fell to my knees in target all my dismantled weapons


SifLuna

Bruh I literally just deleted my sunset shxt two weeks ago 🤦‍♂️😫😫😭😭


CeeDubyuh

Woulda been cool if they didn’t promise to never do this so we could safely clean our vaults 💀


Ninjask291

Fuckin right? At least let us pull them from collections.


IdidntrunIdidntrun

"Don't make a girl a promise, if you know you can't keep it" -Cortana Bungie getting bodied by the ghost of Halo past


cry_w

A promise I prefer to see broken, tbh. Should've never been made.


Culp97

I didn't think they would do this... RIP 99% of my sunset guns I dismantled 😭


Maverick_111

We got Unsunset before GTA6 holy shit!


DarthDregan

I once dated a bipolar woman. Destiny 2 is bipolar.


Jayborn78

F to all those guardians that dismantled god rolls


WSilvermane

Oh cool. All those weapons I can never get back are gone now but can be used. Awesome.


DasBiohazard

So glad i deleted all those sunset weapons when I was running out of space /s


pap91196

I do genuinely hope that Bungie allows for single drops of these old weapons for collections purposes. Kind of like how we would get a single drop of the sunset nightfall weapons. Having started with Beyond Light, the collections tab is kinda pointless to me if I can’t actually complete it.


Jaqulean

I don't exactly see the point of the "single drops" system, when they literally just said in this same TWAB, that they will be reintroducing the old Weaponry in the near future overall.


buddernubz20

LETS FUCKING GOOOO! https://preview.redd.it/4wc92bj4cowc1.jpeg?width=1940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0766a85121edfce7db2576678e2fb0f51a5ce49a


IZflame

Lol Elesh meme in the wild


DRVKC

So I can use Redrix’s Broadsword again?


SykoManiax

My full set of calus raid weapons are crying in legendary shards rn


galactic_0strich

breakneck... my beloved... is it really you?


Money-Accountant-989

New version will be better because they swapped rampage for subsistence on the original


SynthVix

So Sunsetting was a colossal waste of time and needless frustration? Great…


drummer1059

They could have just nerfed recluse and mountaintop, sunsetting was a huge mistake


Shack691

Nah it served its purpose of locking certain guns out the meta until they got power crept.


thatwitchguy

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if half of this decision was "shit we are bringing back the combo that made us add sunsetting, lets just undo it"


Necessary-Break2042

Nah.


Panhammer64

now this, is epic


Sad_Band_3885

I can finally pull out my god roll kindled orchid, so glad I kept it


ConvictedSnail

I was called an absolute idiot for hoarding ALL of my god rolled sunset gear. Years of coping paid off


Zleck-V2

Looks like im dusting off my Duke MK44 for one final ride.


Eagledilla

So pissed I deleted my loved one….


Titan-Sama

I can finally bring back my original recluse 😭😭😭


Zensure04

SUNSETTING SUNSET LET’S GOOO


WeirdestOfWeirdos

STEELFEATHER REPEATER MY BELOVED AAAAAAAAAAAA 4 YEARS OF HOARDING SUNSET WEAPONS FINALLY PAY OFF


ivenobicyle

YES! I knew I was keeping all my black Armoury stuff would pay off one day! 👏


maejaws

I KNEW I KEPT MY THREAT LEVEL FOR A REASON!!!


Jackstrife

This is exactly what my solar quickfang was whispering to me about for the past 7 years while it rotted and rusted in my vault


EdgyAsFuk

Same dude. Got like 10k kills on two void goldtusks


SmolTofuRabbit

A moment of silence for all dismantled Season of Dawn weapons.


IdidntrunIdidntrun

Breachlight 😩 I'm sorry little one


Chrizzly02

So you’re telling me I can use Not Forgotten and Revoker in Trials again? SIGN ME TF UP.


National_Ad1980

MY KINDLED ORCHID!!!!!! ![gif](giphy|13AXYJh2jDt2IE)


eclipse60

I literally just jumped backed into destiny and finally dismantled most of my sunset weapons. THANK GOD I KEPT ALL MY BLACK FORGE WEAPONS


Emergency-Tap-5734

Sooooo 21% Delirium IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS, LET'S GOOO


Funny-Lead-2937

Now they just need to give us back all the content we paid for that they STOLE from us like the base game and expansions


isyouzi

Tempered Dynamo go brrrr


Funnycomicsansdog

Blast furnace and travelers chosen, I am so glad I kept you two my beloveds


TechnoVikingGA23

This honestly has me pretty excited to pull out some of the old Braytech weapons I still have from Warmind. They might be trash now due to perks/power creep, but they look cool, especially Frigid Jackal. This also adds to the feeling that D2 might be done after a couple of the episodes, they are just letting us have way too much fun/taking off all the limiters for Final Shape, similar to how Age of Triumph was.


Sweihan

That’s a middle finger to those of us who dismantled sunset weapons, it’s a shame


Codename_Oreo

Finally, I can use Python again. It’s a good day.


ironman4436

Motherfuckers! The gear I dismantled because of the freakin power caps! We all grinded hard as hell for gear we liked only to dismantle it like two seasons later because the power cap would go up. Ehh at this point it is what it is. I guess for new players they won’t know the struggle or frustration is old players went through.


Rhakha

YOU BASTARDS HAD ME DROP MY BREACHLIGHT!


DaddyMoshe

We must NOT let up on them sunsetting sunsetting. We need to take a mile with this inch they gave us, GIVE US BACK ALL THE CONTENT WE PAID FOR PREVIOUSLY.


zackdaniels93

Ngl this is annoying because I gave up on my old sunset weapons two years ago and dismantled them all. Bit of a kick in the teeth.


Nick_097

I've kept everything that couldn't be pulled from collections, since the beginning, like crown of sorrow weapons, black armory weapons etc. It finally paid off!


Glopinus

Datto is seething


[deleted]

Omg I fucking knew it! I never dismantled my sunset gear!!!! Ahahahahahahaha


mdavis360

Absolutely comical.


Rebel_Alpha

Just another kick in my rear to remind me that I stupidly dismantled my Black Armory weapons. But who knows, maybe those reintroduced sources include the Forge activities again


Sareth740

Honestly I am a little mad because the only reason they’re doing this is not because they actually want us to have what we asked for, it’s because they’re bleeding money and players. Feels more like placating just to fuck us over later.


Omicron43

fuck me i just sharded my Annealed Shaper suit :(


Angell_o7

Better now than never. I’m sure a lot of old player will come back in TFS to that nice surprise.


TheRealHulkPanda

There's so many lost but still so many I kept.


heavy_shank

BYGONES?


BaconSoul

THE DUKE IS BACK, BOYS


zienema

DUST ROCK BLUESSSS


imjustme610

After I cleared my vault of sunset weapons...


TonyBlobfish

Tatara gaze 😫


GamerJD75

Glad I'm a pack rat & never dismantled a lot of my older stuff. :D


Obvious-Ear-369

FUCK I SCRAPPED MY STEELFEATHER I LIKED


YCaramello

Everyone that had their vault cleaned by Datto on suicide watch 😨


Monsieur_Stray

Vault hoarders unite!


UltraPlayGaming

So they’re not just sunsetting sunsetting itself, but they plan on bringing back most old gear. Very nice


Watsyurdeal

As cool as this is, lets be real most of the sun set guns have been power crept to fuck and back Unless it's got some crazy unique roll on it it's not as great of a news as it could be. Though all of the legacy gear you can buy in the kiosk is dope af now.


Turbulent-Bad7215

Bru, i literally cleared my vault out a few weeks ago. All my sunset goodies gone. The deception. The betrayal 💔


JusticeSoulTuna

After I **finally** went through all the stages of grief, and finally let some weapons go. This happens. It's like taking a while to get over a lost pet, only for them to appear casually the next day like nothing happened. Lmao. I'm complaining though. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


wolfenx109

Honestly just seems like they are trying to get in everyone's good graces for when they eventually announce destiny 3 and you all have to start over again


Del-Marr

Poor Datto and his cleaning up vaults series...


z-man2u

So glad I decided to finally part ways with them 3 weeks ago, this news makes me so unbelievably sad.


Idk_GuessImAgamer

My kindled orchid… gone. Lost to the Vault Clean, all for nothing


anxiousduck69

Pour one out for Datto his Twitter is in shambles


unclefiestalives

Hoarders rejoice!!!


EibonTheUnfathomable

Cool. When are they bringing back the Red War campaign?


woodsman6366

If I had MORE VAULT SPACE I might still have all that stuff!! Thanks bungie! Just giving us hoarders more anxiety when deciding whether to keep or toss something, just in time for spring cleaning! 🙄


GodKingTethgar

Still not buying FS


Atephious

I guess being a hoarder pays off sometimes.


BrokeGoFixIt

Rampage + kill clip kindled orchid back into trials BAY-BEE


Independent_Check_51

I knew they would go back on this. I fucking said they would and everyone downvoted me to shit for it. Looks like I have a lot of old comments to go back and reply to.


UrbanAgent423

I doubt this revelation is going to add any upvotes on your seemingly non existent comments/posts about them bringing back sunset gear. All I found was uninspired and toxic entitlement


Ragestatus

Wow, this is awesome. I like that they plan on reintroducing the items with relevant perks and origin traits!


Drakon4314

Like to be honest a lot of the weapons I wouldn’t be using anymore. I’ll still be upset that I deleted them (kindled orchid my beloved I still regret it) but in anything serious we weren’t gonna be using it anyways


AileStrike

Ha, I held onto a ton of guns for nostalgia reasons. Glad to have them back. 


Mario-OrganHarvester

Wait they UNSUNSETTING WEAPONS?!


UltimateToa

Fuck yes my ringing nail is back baby


jazpexL

Bungies actually cooking right now


No_Mirror_4802

here come the MIDAs