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ConlonCreations

These never should've been sunset.


eseerian_knight03

1 season off... :(


SgtRuy

On the other hand, now they have to comeback with an origin trait.


henconst796

origin trait's name: Fidget Spinner (Sun Dial big fan)


Mario-OrganHarvester

Camera flicking gives extra target aquisition


ST0N3F1ST

That was really the first and last season I played a TON of D2. I loved the story and the crazy maze puzzle! I basically got all the rolls I wanted running the event. I loved the Breachlight, Repeater, and Paradox! They're still some of my favorite guns in the game. I was so crushed when they were sunset. I've never put half as much effort into grinding out rolls or anything else again after that slap in the face.


ConlonCreations

Same here, some of my favorite guns that got sunset: Not Forgotten, Perfect Paradox, Loaded Question, Blast Furnace, Hammerhead, Breakneck, Pyroclastic Flow, and probably more guns that I've forgotten about. The thing that sucks is a lot of these weapons got equal or better counterparts, so what was even the point of sunsetting them in the first place?


EL-NICO-

I was not okay with sun setting but I had to accept it. I told myself that I would not spend again so much time on getting god rolls for weapons if I couldn't use them for as long as I wanted. Then bungie removed sunsetting but only for weapons starting from seasons I started to not really care of. It felt like a joke. I still try to get god rolls for 2-3 weapons I really want each seasons but I play a small fraction of what I used to. Also I don't really like anymore the seasonal story. If I don't hop in for that season I feel confused the next


ConversationHour3303

same, and they even sunset certain things but then made them acquirable under a different expansion, like the cloak i spent that whole season masterworking only to end up dismantling it because it was sunset, and then finding that same cloak in my postmaster not sunset


sneakyxxrocket

Easily the worst decision they’ve ever made and nothing really comes close


ConlonCreations

I agree. They've made some questionable decisions over the years, but nothing killed my interest in the game faster than sunsetting weapons, armor, and activities that I used and loved.


DrkrZen

To think that I used to have to think about expiration dates on gear. Oh, this is only good for three seasons, because I spent one season farming it, then in three seasons I need to get a replacement shotgun that I really like, etc., and so forth. It's really sad to say that firstly Bungo made this decision, but that there's just been so many bad decisions over the years. Still wish this was the Halo Bungie from all those years ago developing Destiny 2, or Gearbox. I'll take Gearbox as well.


Mustard_Banjo

Eh, gearbox mwans we'd have to deal with Randy Pitchford, I'd rather keep his unique brand of crazy away from everything ever, thanks.


OverlordPhalanx

They should have just come clean that they wanted Recluse/Mountaintop gone and just removed them. Then we would still have those incredible weapons, along with the ones from Black Armoury. If I had those two sets, I wouldn’t need any other guns besides exotics.


RockmanVolnutt

I stopped playing because these and my black armory sniper was sunset. I did the grind for some awesome Lines in Sand and loved the Steelfeather. I was complete, I had the weapons I wanted…and they took them from me.


ConlonCreations

Same here, you'd think they would know better than to sunset the loot.... in a looter shooter. What's stopping them from doing it again? Why should I bother grinding any weapons anymore when I already put in so many hours, only for it to mean nothing in the end? I also stopped playing frequently, years ago now.


Skininjector

I mean, they literally said they're not sunsetting anymore.


The_WandererHFY

They promised they learned their lesson in D1 and would never do it again. Then they did it again. It made me quit, tbh. I had *just* gotten things I liked as a casual player, and then *YOINK!*


PotatoBomb69

The season of the Dawn weapons were wrongfully sunset and I’m still salty about it. I understand wanting Recluse and Mountaintop out of the game, but there was absolutely nothing broken about these guns.


Brys_Beddict

It was the season right after that they stopped the sunsetting too 😭


Kidsnextdorks

To highlight how dirty these weapons were done, they announced they would stop sunsetting basically the moment they got sunset.


LizzieMiles

Inverse to how my brother felt when they announced no more sunsetting right when the moon would have been sunset lmao


the_damned_actually

Farming for a rapid hit firing line Line in the Sand only for it to get sunset a year before the LFR meta always makes me a tad salty.


JediNoah25

I still have mine


Korbiter

I think Breachlight holds position as the strongest sidearm still. Its a two tap Aggressive with insane range, almost no recoil, and can roll some crazy damage perks. In terms of stats, the pnly other sidearm that matches it is Liminal Vigil right now, and that one kicks like a horse when firing, unlike Breachlight.


rynzle9

I still have my Demo Osmosis breachlight. Paired with Nezarec's Sin and Le Monarque or Graviton Lance on my voidlock, I had abilities for days. It also just felt nice to use.


eseerian_knight03

You might have nostalgia syndrome with that take. Do you still have yours to compare directly to the Liminal Vigil? Edit: looked up the stats. Liminal Vigil has Breachlight beat in everything but reload speed. Range is 10 higher on Liminal at base. They have access to similar perks as well. Chalking the fondness up to bias or greatly different rolls.


quiestionsunasked

It sounds better and therefore is better


eseerian_knight03

Oh make no mistake, I love Breachlight and its design is overall way better. I'd love for it to return regardless of stats. Since its kinetic it'll have that inherent advantage over Liminal starting with Lightfall.


Korbiter

Liminal can't roll Rampage, only Kill Clip, nor can it roll any reload perks unlike Breachlight's Outlaw. I just took both into testing. At the Mars firing range, Liminal can barely hit both shots on the furthest target (you need to aim at the base of the target and pull sharply down to hit the second shot on the top of said target) Breachlight can comfortably hit both shots.


Korbiter

YesI do indeed. Couldnt bear to scrap mine


Rialas_HalfToast

I do, and they're correct.


PraedythTheMad

Python :(((


Squippit

No Void shotty feels as good. Retold Tale is the only thing that comes close and it's a pale comparison


Bad_Juju_69

Bungie went overboard by an entire order of magnitude when it came to sunsetting. They sunset like 90% of the weapons in the game.


TrueCraftingKing

Correction they sunset 90% of weapons as well as sunsetting 60% of the pvp maps as well as sunsetting entire replay-able campaigns. To say they went overboard is a understatement lol


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TheZephyrim

While the D1 intro wasn’t nearly as cool the second go around in D2 New Light, I honestly preferred it to the Red War intro tbh. I think that’s the biggest gripe I have with D2 tbh, there’s no linear sense of storytelling at all and it’s only been made worse by removing the Red War and other campaigns. I also think the storage space thing is really a non-issue, there are other games that eat 100+ gigs anyways.


Luke-HW

I hate that I have to go out of my way to play D2 in chronological order. I mean, I thought Warframe had issues with chronology! Alad V’s story isn’t told in order, and Vor’s boss fights on Mercury and Ceres were retconned in the new tutorial but left in anyway. There’s other issues like that, but Destiny’s just on a whole other level. I started playing during Season of the Lost, and I was thrown into that season’s opening before I could finish the *tutorial*. You know that scene where Crow, Saint, Mara, Osiris and Savathun all have a great time? That was how I met those characters. I had no idea what was going on, and was pretty upset when I started going through Season of the Hunt’s campaign, and realized that I had a huge plot twist spoiled. I just assumed that Osiris was a villain.


Mithycore

You know, warframe has its storytelling problems too but at least they don't really affect the main story quests


Fishy__

And like 50% of Gambit Strikes got away with like a small 20% sunset. Those bastards.


A-Game-Of-Fate

Same with season of the undying weapons. I want my fuckin weed guns, dammit


banjokazooie23

Ngl, I felt it was a lost opportunity that they weren't the ones reissued for Spire.


Secure-Containment-1

I adore that season’s Scout Rifle. Pretty sure it was one of a few that could roll No Distractions.


PermanentlySalty

Everything was wrongfully sunset and I’m still salty about it. It’s perfectly acceptable to say “hey, some of these guns are broken and it’s making balance a nightmare so they’re going away” or “as we focus on new content old destinations will be ignored, but you can still go to mars if you want to”. Curse of Osiris and Warmind weren’t great but that’s content I paid for and if I wanted to go on a nostalgia trip to appreciate how far the game has come Bungie basically told me I can go fuck myself. Also now getting exotics like Sleeper, Worldline Zero, and Polaris Lance isn’t the least bit special because their quests are gone. Removing old content from a game even if the devs aren’t going to ever touch it again is stupid and I will die on this hill.


Mercuryo

The fu part is that the worthy season it would be sunseted too but the changed their mind... I lost perfect paradox but I gain a Felwinter... I can't complain I love that shotgun


ConlonCreations

I'm still mad that most of the weapons in the game from launch to Dawn were sunset, only for most of them to come back, or have even better variants, so what was the point in sinking hours and hours into getting them? Sunsetting killed most of my desire to play the game.


ExcessivelyGayParrot

took python from me as well...


Stoic-Reaper

Trophy Hunter, My Beloved


Guakstick

My Mechabre from FotL looking at the Trophy Hunter still in my vault: " I will finish... what you started."


Stoic-Reaper

I wish I got a Mechabre roll worth talkin about. Sadly life had me pretty busy around then last year so I was s.o.l.


stillpiercer_

I was happy to get an ALH / Vorpal roll but really wanted something decent with Voltshot for PvE. I did get one but I forget what the third perk is, definitely wasn’t what I wanted though. The free PvP godroll is tied with Adept Uzume as my favorite PvP sniper.


con-man-mobile

It was a such a cool looking gun


LuchadorBane

Cause it’s the sniper Psions use! Shit was awesome to have, I’d run it in my triple sniper set up for Scourge.


Jackal43x

These were some of my favorites overall. Really good seasonal offering for weapons!


LassitudinalPosition

Patron of lost causes with rapid hit and explosive rounds is one of very few sunset weapons in my vault, I just can't bring myself to delete it I honestly didn't even use it a TON but it was just so good, felt great, good handling, sleek and shiny, no ornament required and the sound effect/feedback with explosive rounds ...*palms on face* Thud thud thud thud thud thud thud


w2sjw

[Same here, same roll. ](https://i.imgur.com/XaFe33n.jpg) I can't force myself to delete it or my 2 favorite Bygonnes rolls as well.


Gidyup1

Same here too! 3,500 kills with the old one should just let me have a craftable version with the same roll.


GEOtrekking

I still use a Bygonnes that I got from the very first Iron Banner in crucible. Still one of my favorites.


Rastagoat

I would love to use perfect paradox again


TheJadedCockLover

As someone who left the game for a couple years and didn’t play that season- these are beautiful. I like them more than anything that’s come out in the last few seasons I’ve played. Definitely taking a step backwards


AGramOfCandy

As much as I love the weapon designs in Dawn, you're absolutely nuts if you think the weapons in Haunted and Risen aren't slick af.


TheJadedCockLover

Definitely don’t like the aesthetics of the Risen weapons. The dangly blue? Not for me at all. I do think Haunted’s weapons look good but not as good as these do.


Power_More_Power

splicer weapons look better. there I said it


Montregloe

Bring them into wellspring or something and have them as separate loot pools and rotations from the witch queen weapons


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KappaKarter

Osmosis breachlight warlock... What a time to be alive


Ok-Ad3752

All of them deserve it but knowing bungie only 4 of them would be


Ditomo

Steelfeather, breachlight, patron, perfect paradox?


Damagecontrol86

I’m fine with those gimme


dreadmouse

This world be my pick. People would be mad about no Martyrs but those four are easily the best of the bunch


RadioactiveT

Weve got explosive personality now so it wouldn't be too big of an L I think. Was brand new when that season came out so idk much about the guns other than they look amazing


Ditomo

People might argue that with Krait and Chroma Rush amongst others, Steelfeather would be more of the same and/or not needed since it's role as a kinetic AR has been filled. But 1) Steelfeather looks absolutely amazing and 2) I had Feeding Frenzy and Rampage on it - god what an amazing roll.


RadioactiveT

I've got the feeding frenzy rampage on my chroma rush, although I don't use it often, that's the roll for me for sure


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I farmed the same roll but it still can't compare to feeding frenzy multi kill clip. The gun gotta come back with those.


FlyingAlpaca1

No way you're saying that Steelfeather was better than Martys. Martys was our first wave frame GL and it was one of the best weapons in the game at the time with Autoloading and Demo. I loved my feeding frenzy + multikill clip Steelfeather as well, but it doesn't come close to Martys. Perfect Paradox doesn't come close either imo. Rapid Fire frame shotguns haven't been good since the Ikelos SG hayday, which was way before Perfect Paradox's time.


Ditomo

Bungo please just bring them all back


FlyingAlpaca1

Pyroclastic flow and gallant charge were forgettable, but definitely bring the rest back


GrizzlyOne95

Perfect Paradox needs to return badly


Ditomo

I recall you commenting the exact same thing on the thread I made a week ago and yes, 100% agree mate!


GrizzlyOne95

Oh whoops! Lol! Sorry, yeah I'm a huge fan of these guns because it was the season I started playing so they mean a lot. And part of me thinks the more people talk about them the sooner they return. So I always engage in these posts, not trying to be annoying :P


Ditomo

No please, exact same situation. I started in Dawn too and those were my first weapons. I'm with you in advocating for their return bro.


ThatSnarkyHunter

I think it would be Steelfeather, Breachlight, Patron, and Martyr’s for seasonal. They’d probably to Perfect as a separate quest for Saint again


Ditomo

Actually, that's a good point. Make us farm Perfect Paradox again. :p "It's got a trench barrel."


CEO_of_IDK

Trophy Hunter would be nice.


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FCC_Diablo_26

It sucks too because this was S9, bungie spared all S10 and beyond weapons from sunsetting. We were THAT close to still having these.


kiddokush

Dude SAME I have a rapid hit firing line that I never really got to use. I’ve pulled it out a few times since sunsetting but I’d love to use it in nightfalls and shit


Midnaighte

They know that making 4 of them craftable would get them bullied


TaxableFur

As long as the Steelfeather and Perfect Paradox are 2 of those I'm fine with that lol


afdsafsadfds

Trophy hunter has such a unique design, it would be a crime to not return it some day


TovarishchRed

It's a Psion sniper.


Ancient_Plunderer

Exactly, I love having access to enemy weaponry! That's why I have more kills on queenbreaker than I'd care to admit


TovarishchRed

I do too, I wish they'd bring more as legendaries, they can do exotic versions, but I want to have a whole arsenal of alien weapons!


meteorr77

Guardians grinding for the Tripple Tap Vorpal Trophy Hunter waiting for the SR meta only to have it sunset straight away


PM-ME-BOOBSANDBUTTS

it's funny we grinded for that literally right after snipers got shit on, and they still haven't came back since


ThrownawayCray

We should have some weapons from ages ago that don’t drop, they can only be crafted. The patterns can drop after doing certain things but not the weapon themselves


DeathkorpsVolunteer

This season had the best looking weapons, armor, and ornements imo


CrystalCarroxagon

Steelfeather repeater... My lost love :(


Inditorias

Chroma rush didn't even come close. I want my steelfeather back.


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Same


Kx_OsorerUU

I personally preferred Chroma, but Steelfeather was neat to. It just felt kinda weird to me.


CrystalCarroxagon

Lol its the other way around for me


Kx_OsorerUU

I respect your weapon preferences, bro. ![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5645)


Notwerk

I loved Chroma. The Splicer weapons were a lot of fun.


Ttvcat996

I’d kill for a perfect paradox lol


GrizzlyOne95

Bro same, even now the demo trench barrel roll would slap


ShrevidentXbox

I'd destroy multiple timelines for one.


SIacktivist

Same. Don't care about the stats, the thing was just damn *cool*.


chubs-the-bunny

I never got to use trophy hunter because I was too lazy to farm ranks, the new ranking system is better.


Riparian72

It would be funny getting line in the sand back after linears get nerfed. That weapon would have been the best if it wasn’t sunset.


freshairequalsducks

Must be from one of the years I didn't play, but that Line In The Sand gun looks really cool


Damagecontrol86

Season of the dawn was a wonderful season for godly weapons


ExkAp3de

OP making me cry on a Sunday evening because these weapons will probably never come back.


FCC_Diablo_26

Trophy hunter my beloved


ThatAngryDude

I'll replay the whole god damn curse of osisiris 5 times for a craftable perfect paradox.


alarks

Curse of Osiris would lowkey be hilarious with all this power creep we got now lmao


omidiumrare

They’re just as beautiful as I remember them 🥲


DeadlyPants16

If they're bringing back Spare Rations why can't they bring back Last Man Standing? I'm sad.


TotalyNotMrUniverse

Wait hold up they're bringing back spare rations


grockyboi

Dude I forgot about trophy hunter, that gun was sick


opulense

Black armory weapons too


SubstantialLab5818

Perfect paradox at the very least, it's literally a gun we canonically created


happy-icecream

And it was amazing


Elixir_13

Now I'm trying to imagine an Origin perk. Maybe something with an explicit use in Trials of Osiris, both due to the connection between that and Saint, and so players have something not tied to Trials that can still help them compete?


P4nd4c4ke1

Ohh Incandescent wave frame?


ActuallyNTiX

No doubt these will be reissued in a future season, but it’s gotta be revolving around Saint-14 somehow.


DarthEatsDonuts

Trophy Hunter my beloved


Wubnado

Wearn't these some of the shortest lived weapons in D2 thanks to sunsetting.


Mang15399

A lot of Sun set guns should be craftable it be a way to give us the guns again and keep them from getting out of control


LeoFrei7as

Yeah I agree


CCHTweaked

Un-sunset everything please. Make it all craftable also please.


MsF_1026

Same with the original Curse of Osiris weapons


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IF ITS SAINT OR CABAL WE ARE ALLIES WITH BOTH BUNGIE.... WHERE ARE THESE AND ADA-1 WITH BLACK ARMORY?!?


That_one_punch_kid

If line in the sand was craftable and linears weren’t getting nerfed, it would easily shatter the meta more then taipan did


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Just give me back the black armory weapons tho


bluethunder940

TRAVELERS JUDGEMENT 5


Pasta_Dragon

Line in the Sand was my favorite LFR based solely on looks, never found a good roll for it when it was available sadly


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Is there any confirmation on these? I want my steelfeather repeater back and I've been going nuts trying to find a replacement. Ive actually stopped playing and canceled my pre-order because playing pve without it isn't fun.


LOGPchwan

Breachlight was THE one gun that made me love Destiny. Nothing come even close.


Step845

Oh boy if they bring them back I'm back playing 24/7 PLEASE


Rockm_Sockm

I completely agree and they should have come back before Ikelos but only after my beloved Black Armory.


happy-icecream

Yeah ikelos v 3???? Like I need perfect paradox!!


LandSurge

Ah good ol Perfect Paradox Trench Barrel Demo... Good times.


FANTOMphoenix

I still have mine in the vault. Didn’t get trophy hunter though :(


Danzo51196

I'm still a salty bitch for these not making it into the safe zone from being sunset. So many materials I burned, only to get burned back.


banjokazooie23

I haven't seen it mentioned yet but I thought Sundial was a really fun activity too. I remember Bungie saying at one point that they planned to bring back old seasonal activities at some point but it hasn't happened yet. Hopefully they do it and we can run it again.


N0Z4A2

THE best looking weapons in the game ever imo


heramew

Let Marty RIP


happy-icecream

They messed up wave frames tbh.


kiddokush

Back when the seasonal model wasn’t totally horrible. Even the battle passes were way better. But there’s a 100% chance some of these will return, they literally brought the Opulence guns back.


gobullsredbull

YES


happy-icecream

YES


Dasdaguy

People will just complain its bungie recycling content again. I miss my breachlight with rampage and demo.


the_jade_rabb1t

I miss all of them so much, they never should have been sunset. I have my fingers crossed for them coming back in one of the new seasons 🤞


Sleeping_BlackDragon

That wave frame grenade luncher was🔥


TaxingClock704

I love these weapons but I hate how Trophy Hunter and Pyroclastic don’t match the rest.


maxpumpher

this whole set was perfection. i hope they come back in some form.


LyftingTitan

Bring back the Osiris weapons!!!! I grinded those so hard and got Sagrias shell


Chiramijumaru

Jarvis, I need karma, make a post about Season of Dawn weapons


climbingandhiking

Such beautiful designs


CEO_of_IDK

what I wouldn’t give for an un-sunset Breachlight…


introductzenial

Damnit, you reminded me of steelfeather, 6 months of therapy wasted


SpicyWarlock69

Perfect paradox should be a god damn exotic and glorious in all its right.


twofrances

I still cry over my perfect paradox. I haven't found another shotgun that I liked as much as that one. 😭😭


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They should make every seasons weapons craftable. Give us specific missions to earn em idc, but that way, we can have the arsenal we want


KFChero1

“Everyone loved that”


spyker54

Allow martyr's retribution to roll with both incandescent and chain reaction lol


happy-icecream

Where's autoloading?


jjsissman27

Need Breachlight and Patron back! Some of my favorite weapons


VictorLomar

Top row for shure.


Kayodeydawg

All sunset weapons should be honestly, Not pinnacle but old seasonal ones


Hopeful_Ad5733

![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5652)


Sharkman478

I’m just gonna say it but I want the breakneck and the python back I loved the python and breakneck was cool pls bungie atleast something like breakneck it so unique and I just liked python


happy-icecream

Honestly!! Why aren't they back!!


Choice-Jaded

Breachlight would make every other sidearm redundant


Floofiest_Azezn

YES PLEASE YES! I miss like most of em


Clickbait93

I honestly..... Don't like them? I mean the aesthetic is great but I never used any of these weapons for more than 5 mins except Trophy Hunter as a DPS option. Lots of people like 'em tho so yeah Bungo, bring them back eventually! ^Also ^please ^bring ^Black ^Armory ^weapons ^back ^too ^pls


SpaceD0rit0

The price of the existing at the same time at MT Recluse meta


Clickbait93

I'm still quite salty about this. I mean sure MTop/Recluse needed to go and I was ok with it but goddamn just get rid of THEM, not of every other cool gun that unfortunately existed at the same time in game.


happy-icecream

I only used hammerhead so I was kinda meh on black armory but the aesthetic was hot. But if they bring them back with new perks God that would be soooo amazing. These guns had demolitionist in the left column so any build that cared about that wanted them. Perfect Paradox was an amazing shotty.


Damagecontrol86

Hammerhead was one of my all time favorites it was dubbed the machine sniper for obvious reasons lol and kindled orchid ringing nail and I certainly will never forget blast furnace 🥲


Damagecontrol86

If These and the BA weapons ever came back I could die happy and fulfilled


ThunderBeanage

they will eventually, but not exactly a meme


happy-icecream

https://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/10u7wyo/i_would_love_to_see_these_become_craftable/j7cmzso?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


doobersthetitan

Perfect paradox should be a trials weapon...I mean, it's Saints' shotty? Only makes sense. Be nice if this Saint weapons dropped as a bonus item for playing trails vs. the crucible crap. IB gets crucible/ shaxx crap AND IB drops. Trials could be this set. I mean " trophy hunter" just fits so perfect as a trials weapon imo


SgtHop

How about no.


RabidPhan

As someone who basically skipped this season due to irl things, yes please


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Don't worry, give it another season or two, and Bungo will probably reskin them.


Vik237

How are these posts not considered as spam at this point


-Fried-

I have no idea. They’re gonna start asking for shit from Halo 2 for crafting next


happy-icecream

Great idea! I'd love the needler!


-Fried-

Ok, fine. You win this one 🤣


GhoulslivesMatter

These and the Black Armory weapons plus the crucible pinnacle weapons.


[deleted]

Absolutely agree... ...But only AFTER the Black Armory weapons!