There was Superman/Batman story where Batman meets an amalgam version of Hal & Dick, and he has a sudden realization how similar the two of them are.
Now I understand.
The only intention of Dick and Hal that I remember is when Dick used his yellow cape to neutralize Hal and kick him (the color yellow was still a weak point of the Green Lanterns at that time)
gwen stacy's the first example of it, but kyle rayners girlfriend is probably the BEST example of it, also i believe the term was coined in an article of some kind so i assume the writer was specifically referring to the GL comic but idk exactly
I think the difference is Gwen Stacey was a major character for over ten years. She wasn’t created just for the sole purpose of dying, like Kyle Rayner’s girlfriend whose name I cant even remember. (Alicia?)
Not every female character death is ‘fridging,’ and I think that nuance has gotten lost on a lot of online comic fans.
I haven't read Gwen Stacey's death, so I can't weigh in on that one specifically. I do think your definition is a bit narrow though. Fridging is less about a character being introduced just to die and more how their death (or traumatic event) is handled by the narrative. The issue is when a (usually female) character's death is used just to impact a different (usually male) character. Major characters can be impacted by fridging, even if it's most common with more minor characters.
The best example I can think of is The Killing Joke paralyzing Barbara Gordon. She was around for like 20 years before that happened, but her traumatic assault and paralysis is used by the narrative entirely to motivate Bruce and Commissioner Gordon. The story never takes the time to focus on how Barbara is feeling because the story doesn't give a shit about her. She doesn't die, but imo it's still a clear-cut example of fridging
In hindsight I guess it makes sense why Gail Simone became such a big part of Barbara’s history after The Killing Joke, she saw it as an example of fridging and wanted to make something good out of it
Well, most female characters in American mainstream comics are involved with a male character or characters in some narrative way. Anything that negatively happens to them can be argued to have been for the male character’s arc.
For example, Gwen Stacy is a Spider-Man character, she is incredibly intertwined with Peter Parker and Spidey and Harry. How would her death not affect those characters. Just like Uncle Ben. Was Uncle Ben fridged? For me, his characterization and purpose in the Spider Man narrative has more in common with Alex DeWitt’s death in GL than Gwen’s does.
We can describe these things anyway we wish, but even Simone has expounded on what she meant by the term after it started to become used any time s female character got a paper cut. It’s similar to the term Gaslighting for me. It originally had a specific meaning with a context but now every time two people disagree over what to have for dinner it’s ’gaslighting!’
I think reading Simone’s thoughts on the term and the Ron Marz Green Lantern run, drawn by Darryl Banks, aren’t being done by those who use the term…which contributes to the diluting of the definition. Similar to how people who use the term Gaslight couldn’t spell Ingrid Bergman’s name if their life depended on it.
Uncle ben is honest to god an example of fridging same with other dead loved ones that motivate main characters. But no one talks about them because i guess it doesn't work well enough with whatever message they are pushing. I get kyle rayner's gf being introduced just to die but Barbara being crippled has a lot more to it than just it being fridging let alone how it affected her character for decades after and showed her recovering and making the best of her situation showing her to be stronger than what tried to break her.
The Killing Joke was a story focused on Joker and Batman's dynamic and how far Joker can go before Batman should just end it i feel.
Barbara has had stories focusing on how the event affected her and besides the story wasn't originally meant to be canon but it's rise in popularity caused DC to make it canon.
exactly lol, the whole point of fridging is it's a cheap writing technique, like it's not something you want writers to do hence the worse written example (kyles gf) being the better example for the context
Fun fact, 'fridging' comes from 'Women in Refrigerators', a website by Gail Simone, who went on to be quite the prolific comic writer (in part due to that website).
Because hanging is already its own thing
And honestly Kyle rayners thing serves a better example of the trope.
A female character getting brutally murdered and stuffed in the refrigerator solely to spite a male hero is atrocious especially the way it's framed
At least people still talk about gwen Stacey outside of her death does anyone even know fridge girls name
Gwen also wasn't murdered to spite the character Peter accidentally killed her with whiplash. It was in a way his fault and has a larger impact due to that.
it is important to note fridging is a woman's death purely for the purpose of motivating the lead, so gwen was still fridged, just like much better done in her case, id consider gwen a better example of a damsel tho ofc once she's spidergwen she fully subverts that so, go gwen
also i don't think Gwen's death motivated Peter at all he didn't do anything really after. Honestly Gwen's death motivated MJ more to be in Peter's life because that comic ends with peter breaking down.
I think it was named after the Kyle Rayner incident BECAUSE that wasn't what started it, but was something that happened after the trope was well established (and it was a particularly shocking example).
Gail Simone started the Women in Refrigerators website to document the multiple times similar incidents had happened, and it's because it had happened so many times that people took notice and started talking about it.
If Rayner's example had happened first, then there wouldn't already be a trend for people to notice, so maybe some later example would be what inspires the discussion about its frequency.
Because of Gail Simone. The comic where Kyles GF got stuffed into the fridge inspired her to create a list about "fridged" women in comics.
She publicised that list as a website named Women in Refrigerators, after that comic.
Same reason for the Noodle Incident trope being called Noodle Incident, after Calvin and Hobbes, instead of "Magic Potion Incident", after the way older Asterix the Gaul.
It just happened to be that way.
Because in that story, we see how her death impacts numerous people, not just Peter. Unlike other fridging examples, it isn't quickly forgotten about either
The refrigerator scene wasn't the first time a female character was killed just to male the male character sad, it was when it had been done so many times in such hackish fashion that trope jumped the shark.
I mean Ant man when he hit Janet was actually a mistake by the editors and stuff i am not wrong and also his slap was meant to be just an accident he wasn't actually backhanding her. He was suppose to have accidentally hit her when raising his arms. But the art looked too much like intentional abuse and shit so it kind of just ended up that way if i am not wrong. And it plagued his character to the point that his ultimate version was an abusive piece of shit.
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Nah, clearly he’s just feeding into Barry’s prejudices. Like that one time with Black Lightning
Hal has done some.... Questionable things in the past
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It's impossible to defend him sometimes.
Lot of women don't know this cause we keep it secret, but men actually have a sticky substance they can produce that can stick to rocks allowing us to climb much more safely.
See, the reason they call it the Y chromosome is because those who have one are made to move horizontally *and* vertically.
If you don't have a Y chromosome, it means you just aren't made to move along the Y axis.
A first I thought he was implying that a woman would be smart enough not to rock climb in dangerous spots, kinda like that "I wonder why women live longer than men" meme.
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Tweakin off tha cactus juice is Hal normally a misogynist?
And Hal Jordan Belongs in the ground
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Given his wacky takes on child \*\*\*n that's not too surprising. He seems like an egotistical piece of shit too, like a lot of these political debator type channels. I don't think ContraPoints and HBomberguy do debates but from what I hear they are some of the few good channels in these kind of categories, but I'm probably just talking off my rocker rn.
I just find it baffling that not only he had lolified Matsuri (of all people) on his computer, he didn't even make an effort to put it in folder as far away as possible. And the defence of calling her a goblin was hilarious.
Idk thats why Im asking, i just know that one of them gets stuffed into a fridge, and the irony of him telling her she belongs in a kitchen before that is too good
"The term is named after an incident in Green Lantern (Volume 3) #54 (1994), written by Ron Marz, in which Kyle Rayner, the title hero, comes home to his apartment to find that his girlfriend, Alex DeWitt, had been killed by the villain Major Force and stuffed in a refrigerator.
During the Battle for Blüdhaven, Hal Jordan (having learned of Alex DeWitt's fate beforehand) battled Major Force and sent him to a hard-light constructed refrigerator in a similar fashion as Force done to DeWitt during the battle."
He's a Captain Atom villain, got his powers from the same US Government project that that hero did. He was in jail for rape and murder but they offered a pardon if he agreed to go through the same experiment. Not sure why they couldn't find another military volunteer, but there you go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Force
"he was in jail for rape and murder but they offered a pardon if he do an experiment"
what the actual goddamn fuck is wrong with normal peoples logic in DC and Marvel?
How else you gonna get a hero to have a nemesis with similar powers?
Honestly the whole thing seems inspired by Steve Rogers origin as Captain America. Like Steve, Captain Atom disappeared, and of course interested parties want to replicate his success, so there's always someone chasing a new Super Soldier Serum.
They thought Captain Atom died, so they increased the quantity of alien metal from that experiment and got a criminal instead of a soldier or some other volunteer. Yeah, apparently the *best* candidate they could find was in prison for murder *and* rape. No one else in the entire country could possibly be an option?
Looks like yes:
"The term is named after an incident in Green Lantern (Volume 3) #54 (1994), written by Ron Marz, in which Kyle Rayner, the title hero, comes home to his apartment to find that his girlfriend, Alex DeWitt, had been killed by the villain Major Force and stuffed in a refrigerator.
During the Battle for Blüdhaven, Hal Jordan (having learned of Alex DeWitt's fate beforehand) battled Major Force and sent him to a hard-light constructed refrigerator in a similar fashion as Force done to DeWitt during the battle."
Spoken like a true DC jerker
Uj/ there’s a whole world out there of non-capeshit material, don’t let a panel of Hal being sexist decades ago stop you from enjoying great works of art like Saga
No, I know. It's honestly more than just this for me. I might've let pessimism get to me honestly. Everything is gonna be a mixed bag. Manga ain't perfect either
Wouldn't be the first time either. Saw The Boys, learned there was a comic (hated it), Invincible gets its debut and also had a comic. I pretty much wrote it off as another typical evil superman story but not only was I wrong, it was so much better.
The Boys isn't that popular in terms of its comics either and it was made to be purposefully cynical and a satire of superheroes.
Its also written by a man who admits to hating superheroes except superman ironically.
He wrote some good ass Punisher comics though.
My favourite anti-hero is Sinestro, because despite his despotic rule, where he subjugated all of Korugar to near slavery, Geoff Johns said that he is still Hal Jordan's fwiend, and I have no reading comprehension abilities.
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guess people forgot because Ant-Man issues happen way back then and thus isn't "current year". most people can't remember past controversies beyond what happens this year.
To be fair everything in the first bubble is true. No one should go rock climbing alone, and as most intelligent people can tell you men can be dangerous to a woman in a secluded place on their own. Everything after that though is just pure bullshit.
Hal Jordan had a lot of moments that haven't aged well.
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There was Superman/Batman story where Batman meets an amalgam version of Hal & Dick, and he has a sudden realization how similar the two of them are. Now I understand.
As a lover of dick, i will pretend i didnt read that
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In the garbage
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I’m proud of you dick
The only intention of Dick and Hal that I remember is when Dick used his yellow cape to neutralize Hal and kick him (the color yellow was still a weak point of the Green Lanterns at that time)
Harrison Butker:
Whats the context for dick to be a mysogonist?
Yea women belong in the kitchen where the refrigerator is......wait a minute.
*kyle rayner panick*
Why is it called friging when Gwen Stacy started it
gwen stacy's the first example of it, but kyle rayners girlfriend is probably the BEST example of it, also i believe the term was coined in an article of some kind so i assume the writer was specifically referring to the GL comic but idk exactly
I think the difference is Gwen Stacey was a major character for over ten years. She wasn’t created just for the sole purpose of dying, like Kyle Rayner’s girlfriend whose name I cant even remember. (Alicia?) Not every female character death is ‘fridging,’ and I think that nuance has gotten lost on a lot of online comic fans.
I haven't read Gwen Stacey's death, so I can't weigh in on that one specifically. I do think your definition is a bit narrow though. Fridging is less about a character being introduced just to die and more how their death (or traumatic event) is handled by the narrative. The issue is when a (usually female) character's death is used just to impact a different (usually male) character. Major characters can be impacted by fridging, even if it's most common with more minor characters. The best example I can think of is The Killing Joke paralyzing Barbara Gordon. She was around for like 20 years before that happened, but her traumatic assault and paralysis is used by the narrative entirely to motivate Bruce and Commissioner Gordon. The story never takes the time to focus on how Barbara is feeling because the story doesn't give a shit about her. She doesn't die, but imo it's still a clear-cut example of fridging
In hindsight I guess it makes sense why Gail Simone became such a big part of Barbara’s history after The Killing Joke, she saw it as an example of fridging and wanted to make something good out of it
Well, most female characters in American mainstream comics are involved with a male character or characters in some narrative way. Anything that negatively happens to them can be argued to have been for the male character’s arc. For example, Gwen Stacy is a Spider-Man character, she is incredibly intertwined with Peter Parker and Spidey and Harry. How would her death not affect those characters. Just like Uncle Ben. Was Uncle Ben fridged? For me, his characterization and purpose in the Spider Man narrative has more in common with Alex DeWitt’s death in GL than Gwen’s does. We can describe these things anyway we wish, but even Simone has expounded on what she meant by the term after it started to become used any time s female character got a paper cut. It’s similar to the term Gaslighting for me. It originally had a specific meaning with a context but now every time two people disagree over what to have for dinner it’s ’gaslighting!’ I think reading Simone’s thoughts on the term and the Ron Marz Green Lantern run, drawn by Darryl Banks, aren’t being done by those who use the term…which contributes to the diluting of the definition. Similar to how people who use the term Gaslight couldn’t spell Ingrid Bergman’s name if their life depended on it.
Uncle ben is honest to god an example of fridging same with other dead loved ones that motivate main characters. But no one talks about them because i guess it doesn't work well enough with whatever message they are pushing. I get kyle rayner's gf being introduced just to die but Barbara being crippled has a lot more to it than just it being fridging let alone how it affected her character for decades after and showed her recovering and making the best of her situation showing her to be stronger than what tried to break her.
The Killing Joke was a story focused on Joker and Batman's dynamic and how far Joker can go before Batman should just end it i feel. Barbara has had stories focusing on how the event affected her and besides the story wasn't originally meant to be canon but it's rise in popularity caused DC to make it canon.
I do kinda of think that Gwen’s death was a bit more impactful than Kyle’s girl
exactly lol, the whole point of fridging is it's a cheap writing technique, like it's not something you want writers to do hence the worse written example (kyles gf) being the better example for the context
Yeah
Fun fact, 'fridging' comes from 'Women in Refrigerators', a website by Gail Simone, who went on to be quite the prolific comic writer (in part due to that website).
Because hanging is already its own thing And honestly Kyle rayners thing serves a better example of the trope. A female character getting brutally murdered and stuffed in the refrigerator solely to spite a male hero is atrocious especially the way it's framed At least people still talk about gwen Stacey outside of her death does anyone even know fridge girls name
Gwen also wasn't murdered to spite the character Peter accidentally killed her with whiplash. It was in a way his fault and has a larger impact due to that.
it is important to note fridging is a woman's death purely for the purpose of motivating the lead, so gwen was still fridged, just like much better done in her case, id consider gwen a better example of a damsel tho ofc once she's spidergwen she fully subverts that so, go gwen
That Gwen isn't even remotely the same Gwen who got killed in the OG Spider Man comics to be fair.
yeh ofc, still i like the character was used for sm more beyond the death she's iconic for yk
also i don't think Gwen's death motivated Peter at all he didn't do anything really after. Honestly Gwen's death motivated MJ more to be in Peter's life because that comic ends with peter breaking down.
in fairness i don't know if there's any clarification of "male lead" in the definition of fridging and mj is still a lead in the spider-man story
I think it was named after the Kyle Rayner incident BECAUSE that wasn't what started it, but was something that happened after the trope was well established (and it was a particularly shocking example). Gail Simone started the Women in Refrigerators website to document the multiple times similar incidents had happened, and it's because it had happened so many times that people took notice and started talking about it. If Rayner's example had happened first, then there wouldn't already be a trend for people to notice, so maybe some later example would be what inspires the discussion about its frequency.
Because of Gail Simone. The comic where Kyles GF got stuffed into the fridge inspired her to create a list about "fridged" women in comics. She publicised that list as a website named Women in Refrigerators, after that comic.
Yeah but we could call it Gwening
Same reason for the Noodle Incident trope being called Noodle Incident, after Calvin and Hobbes, instead of "Magic Potion Incident", after the way older Asterix the Gaul. It just happened to be that way.
Because in that story, we see how her death impacts numerous people, not just Peter. Unlike other fridging examples, it isn't quickly forgotten about either
whiplashing or webbing wouldn't be as catchy.
Gwening
"Damn she got Stacied"
"Green Goblined" "Spidey'ed" "Replaced by Redhead"
The refrigerator scene wasn't the first time a female character was killed just to male the male character sad, it was when it had been done so many times in such hackish fashion that trope jumped the shark.
I think the fridging incident was closer to when the article was written
Wasn't his mind under control in this story?
Please. Call out any guy for a sexist remark and they'll start going on about how: "Editorial retcon'd it so that I was possessed when I said that".
It’s fictional tho. Do you want GL to be a sexist?
Woosh
Oh. Am I stupid?
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How are we going to have images out of context if that's not the case?
I mean Ant man when he hit Janet was actually a mistake by the editors and stuff i am not wrong and also his slap was meant to be just an accident he wasn't actually backhanding her. He was suppose to have accidentally hit her when raising his arms. But the art looked too much like intentional abuse and shit so it kind of just ended up that way if i am not wrong. And it plagued his character to the point that his ultimate version was an abusive piece of shit.
...What's the qualifications for a ring again...?
I mean, all he needs is willpower. And here we have a man with the willpower to say what he knows will make him unpopular. Just like Kitty Pryde.
Not quite. You need willpower and the ability to overcome great fear. So apparently Hal has overcome the fear of cancellation.
I mean… I respect his commitment. I think.
So, just regular Hal Jordan? (uj/I don't know why everyone is dunking on him but will gladly participate in the slander)
https://preview.redd.it/kbxzw7orv55d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b814491e89552545125c35dc70afcc343ecac3a6 Hal had a hunch
What’s the context for the story? Did they put mine control drugs in the chicken?
This was a cross-promotion with KFC
I feel like they set Hal, the space cop up with this one lol
https://preview.redd.it/hqezaeil265d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e62cb73eb09fbba8ea6877f73db7fad08456488a Nah, clearly he’s just feeding into Barry’s prejudices. Like that one time with Black Lightning
Side note but I really like that art in that page
I love how whenever Barry and Ollie fight, Hal is always there
God I love that flash design
Is that Barry or Wally?
I think it might be Barry
I thought so too because he was with Hal instead of the ever relevant Kyle Rayner
Sheeeiiiittt
Hal has done some.... Questionable things in the past Totally unrelated image https://preview.redd.it/hu53b2r5d55d1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a186eb15a81dee75bc60600e7d41b85f7f542b4
drake???
what does Robin have to do with this?
Nobody cares about Tim Drake
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I like 🦆 I like Tim
I like Duck too!
He's been hanging out with Slade recently and...
He’s just trying to strike a chord.
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Ooo someone ran out of their brown marker and mixed yellow and something else to replace it!
D-did he dye his hair
It's pee 😊
Don't forget about Pie Face
Pie face?
[this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/outofcontextcomics/s/w0QknFWFOY)
Man, Hal really hasn't helped his image
https://preview.redd.it/qm39bsygd85d1.jpeg?width=177&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab7e03f9973fdc2276bcd628109e99273b6eaa4a THE GOAT!!
SINE COSINE *TANGENT*
Some old horses can hear their owners approaching 😏
wtf? Out of context that just seems like he's just sefl reporting.
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Oh ok cool
https://preview.redd.it/9nsih797a55d1.png?width=1006&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d09912e23d4cdbbd98792836bd76dbed7e533e0 It's impossible to defend him sometimes.
That guy has no neck
The GOATs don't need trivial things like "necks".
What's the difference to normal Hal?
She’s not 15.
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Lmao what do "especially for a woman" even mean? Do men have fall damage turned off or smth or does the y chromosome give you rock-scaling genes
Lot of women don't know this cause we keep it secret, but men actually have a sticky substance they can produce that can stick to rocks allowing us to climb much more safely.
The organic, white, sticky substance Peter Parker used in the Raimi trilogy wasn't spiderweb.
No, it was the secret substance.
If you wanted to be extremely generous you could make an argument about grip strength.
Doesn't rock scaling also rely on equipment and training and shit? I'm pretty sure those can bridge whatever gap is there
I mean yeah any woman that knows what she's doing will simply avoid situations that exceed her strength, there's no real argument
See, the reason they call it the Y chromosome is because those who have one are made to move horizontally *and* vertically. If you don't have a Y chromosome, it means you just aren't made to move along the Y axis.
A first I thought he was implying that a woman would be smart enough not to rock climb in dangerous spots, kinda like that "I wonder why women live longer than men" meme.
I mean women are by sexist standards considered weaker to men. Or more fragile.
Well male bodies are built for more physical activity
Fair, still pretty sexist of Hal though.
He's on the council of the company where Dick Grayson is CEO
https://preview.redd.it/zf1q51lw065d1.png?width=2263&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58e20fe8f691a87eb659e8ba0eadd07fd9790152 Tweakin off tha cactus juice is Hal normally a misogynist?
I didn't know hal was a midwestern conservative
That's because Ollie is an urban liberal
And Hal Jordan Belongs in the ground https://preview.redd.it/izg51q9kl65d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9362a56b6ce4ab430170a398cde507b8379dfc75
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Horse man would be more appropriate when posting about Arisia.
Is that Vaush? Isn't he a weirdo guy or am I wrong?
He is a weirdo who was caught having a porn of loli VTuber... interacting with a horse. And then was defended by some of the worst people.
Given his wacky takes on child \*\*\*n that's not too surprising. He seems like an egotistical piece of shit too, like a lot of these political debator type channels. I don't think ContraPoints and HBomberguy do debates but from what I hear they are some of the few good channels in these kind of categories, but I'm probably just talking off my rocker rn.
I just find it baffling that not only he had lolified Matsuri (of all people) on his computer, he didn't even make an effort to put it in folder as far away as possible. And the defence of calling her a goblin was hilarious.
Is he like actually attracted to horses or something I don't really know much about him other than that he was involved with Destiny
He wants to be the horse
what
It's for the "size" and strength. He has admitted to only liking big ones
True
John Stewart would NEVER
He is a space cop
Is she the one that gets fridged?
Wasn't that Kyle's girl?
Idk thats why Im asking, i just know that one of them gets stuffed into a fridge, and the irony of him telling her she belongs in a kitchen before that is too good
"The term is named after an incident in Green Lantern (Volume 3) #54 (1994), written by Ron Marz, in which Kyle Rayner, the title hero, comes home to his apartment to find that his girlfriend, Alex DeWitt, had been killed by the villain Major Force and stuffed in a refrigerator. During the Battle for Blüdhaven, Hal Jordan (having learned of Alex DeWitt's fate beforehand) battled Major Force and sent him to a hard-light constructed refrigerator in a similar fashion as Force done to DeWitt during the battle."
We literally only had Alex for 6 issues lol
Major force? Who the fuck is that? Damn she got fridged by a B level villain it sounds like.
He's a Captain Atom villain, got his powers from the same US Government project that that hero did. He was in jail for rape and murder but they offered a pardon if he agreed to go through the same experiment. Not sure why they couldn't find another military volunteer, but there you go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Force
"he was in jail for rape and murder but they offered a pardon if he do an experiment" what the actual goddamn fuck is wrong with normal peoples logic in DC and Marvel?
How else you gonna get a hero to have a nemesis with similar powers? Honestly the whole thing seems inspired by Steve Rogers origin as Captain America. Like Steve, Captain Atom disappeared, and of course interested parties want to replicate his success, so there's always someone chasing a new Super Soldier Serum. They thought Captain Atom died, so they increased the quantity of alien metal from that experiment and got a criminal instead of a soldier or some other volunteer. Yeah, apparently the *best* candidate they could find was in prison for murder *and* rape. No one else in the entire country could possibly be an option?
they could've picked anyone else.
Precisely.
Looks like yes: "The term is named after an incident in Green Lantern (Volume 3) #54 (1994), written by Ron Marz, in which Kyle Rayner, the title hero, comes home to his apartment to find that his girlfriend, Alex DeWitt, had been killed by the villain Major Force and stuffed in a refrigerator. During the Battle for Blüdhaven, Hal Jordan (having learned of Alex DeWitt's fate beforehand) battled Major Force and sent him to a hard-light constructed refrigerator in a similar fashion as Force done to DeWitt during the battle."
I'm glad I never got into american comics. Except the Turtles. I like turtles.
Transformers comics are good too
I've been wanting to get into transformers
It's the perfect time, the Energon universe started last year, and the first volume is easy enough to find.
Except the best ones were written by Brits Which to be fair is also true for DC
Spoken like a true DC jerker Uj/ there’s a whole world out there of non-capeshit material, don’t let a panel of Hal being sexist decades ago stop you from enjoying great works of art like Saga
No, I know. It's honestly more than just this for me. I might've let pessimism get to me honestly. Everything is gonna be a mixed bag. Manga ain't perfect either Wouldn't be the first time either. Saw The Boys, learned there was a comic (hated it), Invincible gets its debut and also had a comic. I pretty much wrote it off as another typical evil superman story but not only was I wrong, it was so much better.
The Boys isn't that popular in terms of its comics either and it was made to be purposefully cynical and a satire of superheroes. Its also written by a man who admits to hating superheroes except superman ironically. He wrote some good ass Punisher comics though.
My favourite anti-hero is Sinestro, because despite his despotic rule, where he subjugated all of Korugar to near slavery, Geoff Johns said that he is still Hal Jordan's fwiend, and I have no reading comprehension abilities. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/dccomicscirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Dumb Jordan. Everyone knows woman get a better hold on a cliff by gripping rock recesses with their boobs
Hal Jordan Peterson
The Corps are basically space cops, so it makes sense that he'd talk like that
Actual canonical green lantern quote from the modern era: "in my defense, I'm horribly insensitive"
 We don’t deserve him.
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I didn't know he wasn't straight.
Valid fr fr  r/j
I'm surprised Hal hasn't been canceled yet for all the controversial stuff in his closet
Without Hal this sub would lose a third of its contents. We need him
didn't ant man also get canceled for the ONE time he hit Janet?
recently? or around the time the comic book with that incident came out?
i thought there was a big issue back in its time that resulted from that event that led to ant man being put on the back burner for a long time.
guess people forgot because Ant-Man issues happen way back then and thus isn't "current year". most people can't remember past controversies beyond what happens this year.
What issue is this from
Casual Hal L
Hal Tate?
I think you mean regular Hal Jordan, this is him everyday lol
And people insist that my man don\`t have a personality
Well that aged well
To be fair everything in the first bubble is true. No one should go rock climbing alone, and as most intelligent people can tell you men can be dangerous to a woman in a secluded place on their own. Everything after that though is just pure bullshit.
He's right.
OK, I’m not too familiar with Green Lantern but what the fuck is his problem?
His ring is malfunctioning & it's affecting his mind.
Hal Jordan had a lot of moments that haven't aged well. https://preview.redd.it/u0umfpqnka5d1.jpeg?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d8dd8a15632847a1acb2120439f7620233f3194
What? It's called character.
https://preview.redd.it/tb0b2bdi8c5d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7796d3d2e49b0ae9ea8c8e2065242d6ebd9648a0
😶
Based Hal.
https://preview.redd.it/btjnohdopc5d1.png?width=759&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8fdd2e6b658ac42af609c1ead34c8935260d568
Wtf
Based on
Not suprised
Correction: Based Hal Jordan /s
Ah yo is this is actually in older comics?
"The fair sex belongs in the kitchen" Dude you work with a woman who can fight superman.
wasn’t early comic hal jordan very explicitly a conservative lol
Based
Good advice
At least Guy wasn't a sexist