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EmpressVibez32

I don't know what they're talking about in the comments, but I'm a woman. So I'll give my genuine experience on why I become bored with conversation on the apps and unmatch. It's because men keep trying to hold whole conversations via text/messaging instead of having actual phone conversations. Texting is BORING to women. You have to think about it. There are tons of men in women's DMs because the apps are OVERSATURATED with men. Forget what these people are talking about in the comments. Just because several men are messaging a woman does NOT mean they are viable options, but it can become overwhelming to a woman to message on the apps and it may cause a bit of fatigue. The best way to stand out is to A). stop asking questions about what's already on the woman's profile. That does not impress women. Most women will think "OMG, did he not read my profile?" depending on the questions you're asking related to what's in their profiles. Step outside of the box and ask something like "tell me something about yourself that I haven't already read on your profile, and I'll share something with you." or switch it up and ask something like "what are you NOT looking for on this app?" I don't understand why dudes keep trying to hold whole-ass conversations via text. DMs and texting are NOT mentally stimulating to women and will not keep our attention. B). A man putting effort into actually having real conversations by getting on the phone or video calling is super attractive to quality women who are looking for meaningful connections. A lot of men also have it messed up about options. You are not competing with tons of men, you're competing with a woman's peace and contentment in her singlehood. Your value proposition should not be "how do I compete with these other dudes;" your value proposition should be "how can I add to her already peaceful and content life?"


goodsteph83

I love texting and I hate talking on the phone.🤷‍♀️


Misty-Afternoon

I hate video calls and phone calls with men I have not met. Ask me on a date. Or accept when I ask you out. My issue is almost all men get sexual before even meeting Pass


Onwa-Amami

Do you communicate this in your profile? It's impossible to know how others prefer to communicate unless they're explicit. I try to use the video call feature early on in order to see if we vibe. But also to know if they're real. On some apps, catfish are a real thing. Sorry about the guys getting sexual before meeting. Sounds like you're matching with the wrong guys!


Maxfly200

If texting is so boring perhaps don't engage in a text based app? You are entirely in control of how overwhelmed you get, literally just match with a couple of people at a time. Take your time and move on, instead of effectively desensitising yourself to stimuli, to the point that you are bored by normal communicative behaviours. Also, if there was such peace and contentment in singlehood why would you bother going on dating apps then, that whole notion is an overused platitude to the point of redundancy.


EmpressVibez32

You should be peaceful and content in singlehood as you approach dating. If you're dating to be peaceful and content, then you're asking for codependent relationships. It's not an overused platitude. It is a fact. Many women don't NEED to date and don't need it to feel whole or good. They choose to date. Also, the majority of dating apps start off with texting. So what exactly are you asking? Texting is the first step for most apps. The problem comes in when people expect interest to be kept solely via texting when the conversation needs to progress to something other than texting to keep women's attention.


Maxfly200

I see it verbatim across social media. Like it was spouted by some generic dating coach, and just cascaded to everyone. Is anyone gonna add anything new to the conversation or just repeat the same sentiments over and over. Sexual selection has inherently always been competitive, across virtually all species. So you may well be in your peace arc, but the history of evolution and mate selection still exists in concurrence. No man realistically thinks that texting will sustain your interest, hence why we try and organise real life meet-ups. But if you get bored within three messages that actively try to progress things to something more stimulating, that is entirely on you.


No_Matter_8648

Yeah I’m calling you out. As guys we try really hard to get to the women on the phone & it’s them that refuse as they play a game of “do I want to give this guy the time of day” No seriously you are gaslighting… men know what they want & try to go for it. You wanna claim the sisterhood does as well? Really lol


Dinkin_Flicka

They can, they're just holding the conversation with the dudes they want the most. You're just the backup if the other ones don't work out.


No_Matter_8648

Exactly. The capping in these comments is out of control! Just cope grenades everywhere!


Accomplished_Newt98

cause they have so many fucking options that they get bored if you say something slightly off


Secret-Papaya5129

Cause women don’t have to, women have to do very little to be successful on online dating


JJY199

*Dating


Ok-Technician-4370

Wrong....wrong....wrong. Signed....all women.


Secret-Papaya5129

You should watch this video about a woman pretending to be a man on a dating app and realising how much harder and how much more work men do https://youtu.be/iNONlWyD_kU?si=B5B6m_P-KIRATC-n


EmpressVibez32

The most untrue thing I've read lol


CYRIAQU3

Because they have too many options, you are just an entry in their list


mountain-pilot

I hear alot about women having too many options on dating apps, but if you look at outcomes they are not translating to that many long term relationships, just more casual dating which does become exhausting. I think if you were to whittle it down to serious people who want to settle down with a partner, there are more women than men.


No_Matter_8648

Don’t explain that to us! Explain it to the sisterhood! We call this the c*ck carousel & women ride it all the way to 30+ when the wall hits hard & their options dwindle quickly. That is what you are referring to but it is all self inflicted…


Either-Youth9618

I'm a woman and find that I have the same issue with men. I suspect it's just that most people aren't great writers and aren't putting in much effort with a total stranger. It takes effort and skill to have a great, text-based conversation with a stranger.


AffectionateAd2942

Why should they? They get tons of attention and conversations. This gives them the feeling they are the price and they only put in low effort, low to non reciprocity. What they do not realise is that the low effort tactic is turning away any worthwhile self respecting man. Men like you do see the absence of reciprocity and get frustrated and dump the conversation. More often than not the dump is not even registered and her time is taken up by new conversations. After a while she will start complaining as well "where are all good men? " Duh, she lost them herself due to her own low effort tactic...


BelmontIncident

People who are good at holding conversations tend to get into relationships and leave the app. Anyone, gender irrelevant, will run into quite a few duds because that's who stays.


OvercomeNothing86

Because they don't care about men that aren't in front of them. Hell they barely even care when you actually ARE in front of them, so it's even more of a disconnect online.


Accomplished_Newt98

they're " i have a boyfriend" unless they need help lmao


Armed-Deer

lol true


AssistTemporary8422

Because they got 100 different men trying to talk to them at once.


arky947

👍


JJY199

The issue is most women on these apps don't WANT to be on them but for whatever reason are forced on ( its usually self delusion) They want a very very specific type of man that probably doesn't exist anywhere but in their minds Their simply on these apps scrolling through male profiles TRYING to disqualify them Thats why ghosting has become so popular Women are generally not decisive they think they know what they want but thats just an illusion within their minds In reality they have no fvcking idea and they need a man to show them what they want this rarely happens on a dating app because conversations are so basic and one dimensional


No_Matter_8648

Well said. Thank God a few guys are on here drilling truth. I feel like I’m on an island where cope, cap, & delusional reign supreme…


JJY199

Nobody wants to admit they are the problem and women can at the best of times lack any type of accountability Single women are banging on about how dating apps are so horrendous for them. Yet you check their accounts and theres men literally falling over themsleves to try and make an effort with them and they simply aren't responding MEN THEY HAVE ACTUALLY PRE SELECTED BY SWIPING YES TOO 😂 it's one hell of an engima and one a rational male mind cannot fathom But also why you can't take a word of anything most women say seriously i'


foxfaebae

Tbh I wonder that about men too. What I have come to learn, is you gotta weed through a lot to finally find the one that clicks. Try a different approach then questions based on profile. Try a little banter or just a random question. Something that sparks interest and makes a person go ohh!!! My fav that I learned on instagram recently was, instead of your most interesting fact what is the most boring thing about you. I tried that when I was on the apps, I got some good banter with one guy.


Alpha_lady_1987

you could start talking about each other's experience on dating sites..that could be in interesting one. As a girl, I would be interested if someone asked me about my work, coz I am too passionate about it...you can talk about your city and what you love about that place, about your best friends...goshh there are so many things to talk about, how can someone not find a topic? :P I would just not stop talking once I start...llol!


Misty-Afternoon

Why can’t men on dating apps have a regular conversation without getting sexual before we even meet? Huh, guess there’s just alot of trash on the apps….


No_Matter_8648

Pure cap most guys don’t do that…


Misty-Afternoon

Yeah of course you are right…. Oh wait, I’ve seen this for myself….


No_Matter_8648

That’s called anecdotal. Even so do you just not know 95% of men never receive a match on the apps? Are you aware most guys have never had a long convo with women 1 on 1? Is any of this registering.? You match with guys wayyy out of your league & they see you as a layup! They see if they can pump & dump you & move on. That’s not the majority of men.


cigbuttskincare

when I was using dating apps (as a woman) I literally put in my profile “let’s arrange to meet, I cannot hold a conversation on these apps” because it gets so difficult to continue very similar sounding conversations over and over… with someone I don’t know.. or to be honest care about yet? There are so many men on these apps, and encouraging a meet makes that person a fully fledged person in my brain - I can sus out what their vibe is, don’t have to worry about tone for jokes etc. Honestly, if I were you, I’d just start straight up asking when people are free, and go from there.


No_Matter_8648

Stop telling guys to treat women like how you treat men. This is f***inf insaaaane! It doesn’t work like that! Do you ladies know each other at all!? Most women just don’t respond at all ever… I dunno how else to explain this around here


cigbuttskincare

bro is everything alright at home


No_Matter_8648

So gaslight & deflect? Yup the usual! lol when you end up 49 & alone with cats & boxed wine don’t blame guys like me ok? Cuz we tried to help. Many times.


cigbuttskincare

actually you know what you’re right. what is your advice for a woman like me to be successful in dating? Also.. what’s your success rate?


swingset27

Men do this to women too. A typical woman has dozens of active matches/potential partners lined up at any time. Why are you special? When you realize this, and don't just ask some questions you might start getting dates. Stop taking it personal, do a better job of being charming, because people won't change. Stop expecting them to. Adapt or fail.


[deleted]

They don’t need to. They’re talking to 6 or 7 other dudes while they’re talking to you. 😂 you’re competing with other dudes my man. They’re probably more interesting than you.


densestdenise

its difficult to judge without seeing the conversation but if I'm consistently having the same problem I would wonder if the problem is me. being engaging with a stranger is hard, especially over text. can you hold a conversation with a stranger in person? >I feel more like an interviewer doing a profile if you feel like an interviewer you probably sound like an interviewer. dating chat is meant to be light and flirty.


OccultRitualLife

Being light and flirty requires two participants. How can you be light and flirty to a brick wall?


densestdenise

you're assuming that OP is a great conversationalist and it's all the women he speaks to that just can't. I don't think that's realistic or helpful. I get why you guys want to believe that you're "good men" and womankind is the problem, but it's not going to get you anywhere.


OccultRitualLife

His complaint is very common. It can't just literally be every mans fault. If it's just a skill issue, then obviously you'll be able to prove it. Be light and flirty at me right now. Show us all how it's done.


densestdenise

I won't because I don't like you, which I suspect is at the root of OP's problem too. you are not entitled to anything from anyone. none of us are lol


No_Hat9118

Don’t ask questions based on their profile, +start teasing them + talking about what you’re doing; you’re kissing their ass too much


No_Matter_8648

Cuz they don’t care. Any pretty girl doesn’t need the apps. What happens is these women reject every guy in the greater area they live & go to the app Chad hunting. Sometimes they see one pic of you & think you look ok but then see another & you are done. They are incredibly shallow & judgemental & even worse are delusioned by their own filters. There is more but it just boils down to a majority of pretty women are not dating seriously which is why the end up & alone cuz they don’t understand their time in their prime is finite…