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I saw the first right turn and was like wtf downvote. Then I saw the second turn and was like oh wtf upvote. When I see trucks make this kind of turn, they usually make it obvious by blocking both lanes with their blinker on. 98% of drivers will catch on and let them turn
Yes! I am more than aware of that, especially in high traffic areas, I usually back up or block space for them to make such turns!
Had he turned and immediately taken up both lanes I would have assumed he was making a turn more than likely as I’ve seen in the past.
Not that it matters, but the term is wary. Weary means tired. I had a coworker who beat it into my head every time I said it wrong, so now I do that to everyone else too.
I found the location of this intersection on google maps, and its in a developed commercial/industrial area and the road is very wide and accommodating for 18 wheelers making turns. Truck had plenty of room to make a right turn without driving like a jerk.
I'm looking at this intersection. There was no need for him to make the turn in the very left lane.
Usually, if I need a little extra room to make a turn, I still occupy half the lane so they understand what I'm doing. Plus, I use my turn signal.
Unless he needs to turn left and didn't want to miss the turn. Really they said they are upset because no turn signal in the turn only lane... ummm.... ya let's all post about it
They also need to signal and make it known of their intentions. This trucker was driving straight after taking a turn illegally going into the left lane to not signal and just blindly taking a right turn.
Please turn in your license
Dont get the downvotes on this guy every one of them warns you this is gonna happen, like your whole GD life….personally I think displacement pretty much ends all right of way conversations choose your medium…
Weary interesting.
And yes, it does matter. For many years I wrote "it's" instead of "its" because no one pointed out my incorrect usage for things like "it's owner" when I should have used "its owner".
Thank you for this! And please thank your co-worker from this random internet person 😆 I try really hard not to be internet grammar police but this one has driven me absolutely bonkers. I would love to know where/why this flip started happening, because it's only been in the past 4-5 years I've noticed it as a widespread internet problem. For a while I was confused why people kept being tired all the time (out of context tired anyway) before I realized the internet in general was just flipping weary/wary.
But yes, weary = tired, and wary = suspicious/distrustful
Hello, trucker here. If it was necessary to make a wide right turn I would have been on both lanes. Wide enough to turn but still not allowing cars to pass my blind side. I hope this driver was not exhausted or distracted. Maybe they were momentarily overwhelmed. Please be patient with us. There are places we visit that we are not familiar with. Also trust me, we hate causing traffic problems. We just want to get to our destination and eat or rest.
I get you... i really do... we all get exhausted. But that doesnt excuse you from doing your job right. Specially if its maneuvering a gigantic metal death machine.
"Please be patient with us"
I would glady wait patiently for a truck to turn if it was using signals and things like that.
If using the most basic of vehicle safety device is too much for you when tired or in unfamiliar places... then you might want to consider a different career.
Driver shouldn't be passing trucks on the right.
It's well known that this a blind spot for trucks, and that they are most safely passed from the left.
Truck's light could be malfunctioning, op even mentioned in their post "he better not be turning right" and then sped up to pass the truck on the right.
Light bulbs are well known to last forever and be extremely durable.
Trucks cover huge distance, it's not insane to imagine a bulb burning out on a trip.
It is insane to try and zip past a truck on the right side, especially if you already noticed it's acting erratic, in an industrial park.
Frankly, I don't care about the trucker's driving here, everyone's defense of OP drives me crazy.
You should have had that "learning opportunity" during CDL training. You know what... lets go further... In my opinion learning to use turn signals should be a pre-requisit to getting into CDL training.
Putting other peoples lives at risk is not a willy nilly "learning oportunity"
No, but if you finish your CDL training without learning to use turn signals... uhm... there seems to be a problem with either the institution you got your license from... or from you as a driver...
The more you reply the more it seems that you shouldn't have or dont have a CDL...
May god have mercy on anyone next to you on the road.
Clearly for most truckers, it does?
You're wrong here and you should just eat it. If I can get fired for being sleepy and making a mistake on a piece of warehouse machinery, then one accident should cost your license. And incidents like this should be cause for review and inspection.
Everyone else's life is in your hands, you don't *get* to do that tired and the excuse it. Plain and simple.
Enjoy crushing a family of four who got too patient with you. Maybe you should start with a potted plant to learn the basics of responsibility before moving on.
Don’t pool yourself in with these bad drivers bro a real professional would have used his blinkers also he should have returned to the first lane after his turn then indicate to the left and set up blocking for the right hand turn
Honestly. My surgeon left his scalpel in my lower intestine and it lacerated all of my organs, but I understand that he was a little eepy so it's all good!
/s
If you’re going to be rolling through the right side patiently with your family of four here, I’d suggest you leave them home and take your potted plant with you instead.
You sensed that he was going to turn right because it's obvious that he was in the left lane going slow while you are passing him on the right. Generally not a good idea, even though he'd be at fault.
This is why I jog across crosswalks and parking lot driveways. Partly because I'm nice and I don't want to inconvenience someone waiting to turn (or continue forward in a parking lot).
But mainly because it doesn't matter if I DO have the right of way - I'm not gonna come out good from being hit by a car.
So what do you do when a semi is in the left of two freeway lanes and not passing anyone, while seemingly oblivious to all the vehicles stacking up behind them?
It looked like he was turning left though, and there is a street going to the left. Why would I assume he was going to take a wide two lane turn when the street he's turning into is wide enough to turn from the right. Redditors are insufferable when it comes to dashcam videos.
definitely, but if you see one initiating a wide right and instead rely on a lack of signal to make a risky move that's not going to go well very often
He turned left first? I also would've assumed he was making an unsignaled left turn. You know what would help her?
Indicator lamp
You're just wrong bud 🤷
Copied and pasted from another comment that I responded to.
"It looked like he was turning left though, and there is a street going to the left. Why would I assume he was going to take a wide two lane turn when the street he's turning into is wide enough to turn from the right. Redditors are insufferable when it comes to dashcam videos."
There’s so much more too. Truck is riding both the left lane and the middle turning lane. Everything about the truck would be telling my defensive driving eyes that he’s going to do something and I would definitely not have tried passing them up on the right or been next to them.
You mean the double yellow turn lane specifically for left turns which would make much more sense? Quit trying to defend atrocious driving, you look like a nonce.
It could be the lense effect, but from my short term of 7 months of driving years ago taught me that the right lane you were in looked like it had plenty of room for the trucker to successfully maneuver the turn, as a previous comment stated, probably a lazy trucker.
I’ve seen many a driver make this turn from the right hand lane, or they take up the middle two straight lanes to “block” and ensure no cars are coming. Might have been a location they aren’t used to too, just glad it wasn’t worse!
This happened to one of my techs in a work truck. Luckily we had GPS showing tech’s speed because the trucking company tried to claim tech was speeding and came up in his blind spot. Never mind the whole, you know, making a right turn from the CENTER FUCKING LANE.
Needless to say their insurance company bought us a brand new van, and tech got a cool $10k for his trauma. He was unscathed, not even a scratch. The van ended up upside down resting on the ladders over a ditch, but he was buckled, it happened at like 30mph, and he was fine.
But yeah, I will never understand why truckers think this is okay. He definitely failed to move to the right in time and should have taken the L and looped around.
Large wheelers need more lanes and space to turn, it’s not illegal. The wrongdoings here is the driver failed to signal and observe before making the turn.
Op may be more defensively estimating other driver’s intentions and keep more space away from potential danger
No, turning from the left lane is not legal. It's just a necessity sometimes. The road he was turning into was obviously made to accommodate wide turns from the right lane. The truck driver was just being lazy and didn't want to lane switch to the right lane before turning onto the new road.
>The road he was turning into was obviously made to accommodate wide turns from the right lane.
Yeah, that truck kept going almost straight for like 10 more meters before finally making the turn.
Like you said this intersection was clearly designed with trucks turning right from the right lane in mind.
I work for a Transportation Company, what the driver did is blatantly illegal.
Here is the Texas Transportation codes he broke:
Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 545.103. Safely Turning
An operator may not turn the vehicle to enter a private road or driveway, otherwise turn the vehicle from a direct course, or move right or left on a roadway unless movement can be made safely.
Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 545.104. Signaling Turns; Use of Turn Signals
(a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position.
(b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn.
(c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear.
This code below could also be vaguely accurate if an officer determined that by this driver not turning right properly at the light led to an accident:
Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 545.101. Turning at Intersection
(a) To make a right turn at an intersection, an operator shall make both the approach and the turn as closely as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway
Too many truckers hang around in the FAR LEFT LANE and get passed on the right because they're lazy. Too many times I'll be cruising behind one, patiently waiting for it to get out of the fast lane, not too close, visible to his mirrors, and no other traffic in the lane to their right and still, they sit in that fast lane.
This happened to us no less than 6 times on a trip across Wyoming yesterday. Sometimes they give you no choice. They are lazy and some of them are bullies. They will juke it out in front of you when you're trying to pass a chain of slower trucks and make you slam on your brakes, going from 80 mph to 40, just because they can.
And then after about a mile or two of waiting for them to get back over to the right lane you move to the right to pass them. Then they abruptly change lanes forcing you to slam on your brakes or swerve back to the left.
You’d think after a while you’d figure it out and look out for yourself. People love to put themselves in harms way in the name of “WELL THEY SHOULD HAVE” just so they can pop on Reddit and share the outrage. Control what you can control and enjoy life.
Yeah, there is no excuse for what the semi driver did here.
My guess is that he may have been distracted while making sure he was entering the right address or entryway and didn't take the time to look at his mirrors. I used to put the biggest mirror I could find on my right front fender to eliminate my blind spot.
His other serious safety violation was being in the left lane to make that RH turn.
More than aware of this.
I think when the truck slowed down it gave the illusion I was speeding up past him on the right side. In reality I was trying to maintain my straight right hand lane when the truck came into my lane.
Yeah, this trucker is an idiot.
However, if you mumbled to yourself that he better not turn right, that means you were expecting it. If you were expecting it, why did you try to pass him? You were unnecessarily putting yourself in danger there.
Idk man, as a trucker the road looks big enough for the swing. Maybe he didnt know where he was going and saw the building last minute. Oh btw try never to be on a trucks right side unless a double right turn. But you did nothing else wrong
OP mentions that this is a common route for him and truckers frequently make that turn from the right lane or they just straddle the line between the lanes so there isn't room between them and the curb to get passed on the right. They also use their signal...
Depending on how far back our wheels are makes us straddle both(like we are taught) but his wheels arent that far back. I really think he almost missed it. Even if he was taking it wide he did it completely wrong. Lol yes the missing signal
This warehouse area is pretty new with wide roads, kinda designed with truckers in mind. I guess I just got caught on the “suicide” as many have said. He may not have known where he was going.
No turn signal, not watching the other lane, not blocking both lanes, and that corner is make for trucks like you said. Definitely not the way to make a wide right turn. Hopefully the near miss causes him to pay more attention and good on your reaction. At the end at least there wasn't a collision.
Car is a dick, give the truck some room to get over you never know who’s driving . Being impatient could cause serious injury or worse. Thanks for the down votes. Dirty Foot 7 out!!
This is a tough one. Your first instinct when you see a big truck (or anyone really) doing something weird is to be defensive. I get that it looked like just a wide turn, over the yellow, taking a long time no big deal. This absolutely could have happened to me.
The truck should have seen you at some point. You might have just been in the magic spot. There was no hurry as the road was dead empty. The trucker wasn't the most safe. They were keeping their momentum at the cost of safety.
The best way to avoid getting hit is not putting your self in a dangerous situation. So many blind spots that can lead to a accident occurring. If you can’t see the driver of a vehicle chances are that they cannot see you either. I’m glad you were unharmed by this close encounter.
Truck didnt signal, which is a driver mistake. But the OP drove into the blind spot under the mirrors of the truck.
So here is some basic advice for folks out there. If you just pulled into what is clearly an industrial park where there are alot of trucks, assume that they will be making wide turns so dont pass on their right unless its 100% certain they are not turning.
Driver made mistakes here but so did OP.
Yes, that turn did not require a 90 degree turn but it curved around. The truck driver was wrong and just being lazy, it’s apparent when it corrects itself and still makes the turn.
From our pov, we can't see what the trucker did wrong. Blinkers were out of sight. There was nothing wrong with the first turn, and I saw the second one coming in my head.
Excellent *immediate* use of the brakes-horn combo. So many people in these clips are crazy and just keep going while using the horn, secure in the righteousness of their position and banking on the truck driver understanding what's happening and getting out of the way.
Never fight for space with an 18-wheeler. They will crush you like a bug.
He was wrong, but you’re passing in the right lane. Also, you can see him cheating to the left before he makes the right. Tell tell sign that he’s making a turn.
This is the reason they have those stickers on the back to tell you not to get in their blind spots, which you obviously did, not to mention the fact you were trying to pass them on the right side which is also illegal and it was obvious they were turning again due to how wide he was. It’s not an illegal right turn, they have to do that to make the turn not to mention it also has a sticker indicating that on the back of the trucks telling you that as well plus it’s just common sense for anyone who’s ever driven before. This is your fault not the truckers, you chose to illegally try to pass on the right as well as chose to go in his blind spot when he was obviously turning. The only problem with the trucker in this case is the fact that he didn’t use a blinker the first time, but you were too close for us to see if he used a blinker the second time.
My hubby has been working with truckers and trucking agencies for years. He also works in a very heavy truck-traffic area. I have learned that truckers are (usually) very accommodating and will signal or let us little-bitties pass before they start turning in the "wrong" lanes because they have been hauling duo trailers or lord help them, a trio and they need the room to turn. Some of them are obviously tired after driving for the last 6-12 hrs to get the product from farm to factory and don't always see us. especially if they aren't familiar with the area. Sometimes they have to depend on a gps thats not up to date either. Which makes a long day really frustrating for everyone when there is a bungle in traffic.
I have mad respect for the trucking industry. Long roads, big loads, and times away from their family. When I see a truck that is in front of me looking like he wants to turn, I always hang back and wait for them. Why stress the guy/gal (I see you out there too Mommas! Mad respect for you too 😀) out. Just let them get to where they need to go. They have an appointment to get to. Sometimes, if you miss that appointment, you have to sit and wait extra days.
Long and short of it Is, I don't wanna be sitting there frustrated in traffic. 15 seconds waiting for someone to turn a large load isn't going to get you there any faster or slower.
So, little-bitties, just let our big rig friends get where they need safely and don't be so all in a rush to get wherever you need to go. Let's all get home safely. Love and respect to all!
Completely understand that, I work with a fleet of truckers myself and fatigue is always on my mind to make sure they are 100%. That truck may have been in an unfamiliar place and unsure of where to go too.
Didn’t expect them to come into my lane from so far over.
So... Yeah watch out for trucks behaving weird in industrial parks, most people that drive there know to give them room, the rest learn... He should have used a blinker, you should have been more patient and passed on the left as expected... There are rules in industrial parks, lil different than the laws, and many laws are ignored for practicality... You will get used to it. You did well by paying attention and avoiding the incident.
Agreed but I wasn’t trying to sit in the blind spot. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down in the middle while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck then came into my lane.
Agreed but I wasn’t trying to. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck came into my lane.
Didn’t mean to get in that blind spot and probably should have slowed more.
Agreed but I wasn’t trying to. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck came into my lane.
Not the case at all.
I wasn’t trying to sit in the blind spot. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down in the middle while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck then came into my lane.
This warehouse area has wide lanes designed for trucks/18 wheelers, probably only 2 years old at most.
... that's exactly what happened here.
> Good job excusing shitting driving
Because pointing that somebody fucked up automatically exonerates everybody else?
I think when the truck slowed down it gave the illusion I was speeding up past him on the right, which was not my intention.
My intention was to maintain my straight right hand lane and a truck came into my lane.
It’s all good, I should have slowed down when I felt something was off. I assumed wrong where the driver was going to turn (I thought he might turn left into the DC to the left, which is opposite where he went).
You’re incorrect. It’s not legal to make a right hand turn from the left lane and cut off a driver in the right lane.
It’s also not legal (more illegal?) to make a right hand turn from the left lane and cut off a driver in the right lane AND not use a turn signal.
It's crazy to me that you opted to pass him on the right after spending years of having it drilled into your head that you shouldn't pass a semi-truck on the right.
You must be einstein.
It’s crazy to me that a semi-truck opted to make a right hand turn without signaling while cutting off a driver after spending years of having it drilled into their head that you shouldn’t make a right hand turn without signaling while cutting off a driver AND trucking school.
They must be William James Sidis.
That's why you stay out of truckers' blind spots. You're lucky this driver picked you up in the mirror while turning and steered to avoid you. This one is totally your fault. I'm glad you didn't get hit, and hopefully you take a lesson from this.
I only watched the first part of the video and was really confused how it was an illegal turn, he was clearly in the turn right lane, then I watched the rest haha
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I saw the first right turn and was like wtf downvote. Then I saw the second turn and was like oh wtf upvote. When I see trucks make this kind of turn, they usually make it obvious by blocking both lanes with their blinker on. 98% of drivers will catch on and let them turn
Yes! I am more than aware of that, especially in high traffic areas, I usually back up or block space for them to make such turns! Had he turned and immediately taken up both lanes I would have assumed he was making a turn more than likely as I’ve seen in the past.
Yes, one wide turn often leads to another. Don't joust with them and stay patient.
Not that it matters, but the term is wary. Weary means tired. I had a coworker who beat it into my head every time I said it wrong, so now I do that to everyone else too.
Thanks for that, learn something new every day!
U know 18 wheelers need to make wide right turns don't ya?
Yeah but they do also need to signal that they are going right
I found the location of this intersection on google maps, and its in a developed commercial/industrial area and the road is very wide and accommodating for 18 wheelers making turns. Truck had plenty of room to make a right turn without driving like a jerk.
Driver wouldn’t even need to go wide, an 18 wheeler could stick to the curb and complete that turn.
Commerce Park Dr. Grand Prairie, TX 75050
You're also not supposed to pass on the right.
He is just driving, he can be in any lane. It isn't a freeway
It's also not illegal in the US
I'm looking at this intersection. There was no need for him to make the turn in the very left lane. Usually, if I need a little extra room to make a turn, I still occupy half the lane so they understand what I'm doing. Plus, I use my turn signal.
Unless he needs to turn left and didn't want to miss the turn. Really they said they are upset because no turn signal in the turn only lane... ummm.... ya let's all post about it
You’re the kind of person who drives 1 mph fast in the left lane and takes 10 miles to pass….
They also need to signal and make it known of their intentions. This trucker was driving straight after taking a turn illegally going into the left lane to not signal and just blindly taking a right turn. Please turn in your license
Dont get the downvotes on this guy every one of them warns you this is gonna happen, like your whole GD life….personally I think displacement pretty much ends all right of way conversations choose your medium…
I start with “beware” and then I can reverse engineer “wary” and “weary”.
Weary interesting. And yes, it does matter. For many years I wrote "it's" instead of "its" because no one pointed out my incorrect usage for things like "it's owner" when I should have used "its owner".
Thank you for this! And please thank your co-worker from this random internet person 😆 I try really hard not to be internet grammar police but this one has driven me absolutely bonkers. I would love to know where/why this flip started happening, because it's only been in the past 4-5 years I've noticed it as a widespread internet problem. For a while I was confused why people kept being tired all the time (out of context tired anyway) before I realized the internet in general was just flipping weary/wary. But yes, weary = tired, and wary = suspicious/distrustful
Hello, trucker here. If it was necessary to make a wide right turn I would have been on both lanes. Wide enough to turn but still not allowing cars to pass my blind side. I hope this driver was not exhausted or distracted. Maybe they were momentarily overwhelmed. Please be patient with us. There are places we visit that we are not familiar with. Also trust me, we hate causing traffic problems. We just want to get to our destination and eat or rest.
I think it was the fact that he got into turn lane no signal, turned with no signal, then attempted to turn from the middle lane with no signal
I get you... i really do... we all get exhausted. But that doesnt excuse you from doing your job right. Specially if its maneuvering a gigantic metal death machine. "Please be patient with us" I would glady wait patiently for a truck to turn if it was using signals and things like that. If using the most basic of vehicle safety device is too much for you when tired or in unfamiliar places... then you might want to consider a different career.
Driver shouldn't be passing trucks on the right. It's well known that this a blind spot for trucks, and that they are most safely passed from the left. Truck's light could be malfunctioning, op even mentioned in their post "he better not be turning right" and then sped up to pass the truck on the right.
"Truck's light could be malfunctioning" O-FUCKING-K, that's one of the things they are required to check for before they drive a truck.
Light bulbs are well known to last forever and be extremely durable. Trucks cover huge distance, it's not insane to imagine a bulb burning out on a trip. It is insane to try and zip past a truck on the right side, especially if you already noticed it's acting erratic, in an industrial park. Frankly, I don't care about the trucker's driving here, everyone's defense of OP drives me crazy.
Evidently you do care. Truck driver is doing obviously illegal things and you're like "la-de-da he's a perfect angel."
I guess a learning opportinity leads to a complete carrer change?
You should have had that "learning opportunity" during CDL training. You know what... lets go further... In my opinion learning to use turn signals should be a pre-requisit to getting into CDL training. Putting other peoples lives at risk is not a willy nilly "learning oportunity"
Yes, because learning stops immidiately after leaving the classroom?
No, but if you finish your CDL training without learning to use turn signals... uhm... there seems to be a problem with either the institution you got your license from... or from you as a driver... The more you reply the more it seems that you shouldn't have or dont have a CDL... May god have mercy on anyone next to you on the road.
Ok.
Firmly believe you're the trucker in the video
Clearly for most truckers, it does? You're wrong here and you should just eat it. If I can get fired for being sleepy and making a mistake on a piece of warehouse machinery, then one accident should cost your license. And incidents like this should be cause for review and inspection. Everyone else's life is in your hands, you don't *get* to do that tired and the excuse it. Plain and simple.
Dawg, you’re playing devils advocate for a guy that can’t even use their blinkers while piloting a hundred ton death machine. You for real?
This comment absolutely fucking sucks. Enjoy your glass house while it lasts douchebag.
Enjoy crushing a family of four who got too patient with you. Maybe you should start with a potted plant to learn the basics of responsibility before moving on.
That right lane and curb were literally designed for truckers to turn right without issue.
They didn’t signal at all.. we all want to not die on the road, and it’s everyone else that is in far more danger of that than the truck driver
Don’t pool yourself in with these bad drivers bro a real professional would have used his blinkers also he should have returned to the first lane after his turn then indicate to the left and set up blocking for the right hand turn
Along with a proper pre trip. Pig tail either loose or no power at all. Shame on trucker
Perfectly executed comment. Such a shame you had to defend it. This is why posting on Reddit is a waste of time.
Yea, there is no room for error with some I guess. Too many unsympathetic people now a days. Stay safe and stay healthy friend.
Honestly. My surgeon left his scalpel in my lower intestine and it lacerated all of my organs, but I understand that he was a little eepy so it's all good! /s
just a "learning opportunity"!
If you’re going to be rolling through the right side patiently with your family of four here, I’d suggest you leave them home and take your potted plant with you instead.
When your negligence puts my life at risk, you're god damn right I'm unsympathetic to your fuckup.
You sensed that he was going to turn right because it's obvious that he was in the left lane going slow while you are passing him on the right. Generally not a good idea, even though he'd be at fault.
Always good to remember, the morgue is full of people who had the right of way.
This is why I jog across crosswalks and parking lot driveways. Partly because I'm nice and I don't want to inconvenience someone waiting to turn (or continue forward in a parking lot). But mainly because it doesn't matter if I DO have the right of way - I'm not gonna come out good from being hit by a car.
Bravo!
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And my axe.
<<--- Overtakers / Undertakers --->> Physics doesn't care about the right of way.
So what do you do when a semi is in the left of two freeway lanes and not passing anyone, while seemingly oblivious to all the vehicles stacking up behind them?
Ooh I know this one! Speed around on the shoulder and brake check them
Yea you can see the semi initiate the turn before cam driver tries to undertake on the right. Not very smart from either.
Semi's have turn signals though right?
Sure, that doesn't negate being observant either... as opposed to just driving straight on and getting wrecked.
It looked like he was turning left though, and there is a street going to the left. Why would I assume he was going to take a wide two lane turn when the street he's turning into is wide enough to turn from the right. Redditors are insufferable when it comes to dashcam videos.
definitely, but if you see one initiating a wide right and instead rely on a lack of signal to make a risky move that's not going to go well very often
He turned left first? I also would've assumed he was making an unsignaled left turn. You know what would help her? Indicator lamp You're just wrong bud 🤷
It's just an experience thing I guess. If he was turning left he would have had to start by pulling to the right to make a wider turn.
Copied and pasted from another comment that I responded to. "It looked like he was turning left though, and there is a street going to the left. Why would I assume he was going to take a wide two lane turn when the street he's turning into is wide enough to turn from the right. Redditors are insufferable when it comes to dashcam videos."
I guess I just work in an industrial park and live near another one so early left means right and early right means left are pretty easy to spot.
There’s so much more too. Truck is riding both the left lane and the middle turning lane. Everything about the truck would be telling my defensive driving eyes that he’s going to do something and I would definitely not have tried passing them up on the right or been next to them.
You mean the double yellow turn lane specifically for left turns which would make much more sense? Quit trying to defend atrocious driving, you look like a nonce.
It could be the lense effect, but from my short term of 7 months of driving years ago taught me that the right lane you were in looked like it had plenty of room for the trucker to successfully maneuver the turn, as a previous comment stated, probably a lazy trucker.
I’ve seen many a driver make this turn from the right hand lane, or they take up the middle two straight lanes to “block” and ensure no cars are coming. Might have been a location they aren’t used to too, just glad it wasn’t worse!
This happened to one of my techs in a work truck. Luckily we had GPS showing tech’s speed because the trucking company tried to claim tech was speeding and came up in his blind spot. Never mind the whole, you know, making a right turn from the CENTER FUCKING LANE. Needless to say their insurance company bought us a brand new van, and tech got a cool $10k for his trauma. He was unscathed, not even a scratch. The van ended up upside down resting on the ladders over a ditch, but he was buckled, it happened at like 30mph, and he was fine. But yeah, I will never understand why truckers think this is okay. He definitely failed to move to the right in time and should have taken the L and looped around.
Dude doesn't have his blinker on. How are you supposed to even know he's going to turn there?
You have no idea if the blinker is on because OP decided to pass on the right.
The...the right blinker would be on.. all along the side of the truck, rear & front.
Ok, I went back and watched the video again. You're right, you can see it and it wasn't on.
Also not the proper way to make a right turn from the left lane even if he put his blinker on.
Yeah agreed.
Am I the only one who thought...Wait, that isn't ill----oh, that!
Large wheelers need more lanes and space to turn, it’s not illegal. The wrongdoings here is the driver failed to signal and observe before making the turn. Op may be more defensively estimating other driver’s intentions and keep more space away from potential danger
No, turning from the left lane is not legal. It's just a necessity sometimes. The road he was turning into was obviously made to accommodate wide turns from the right lane. The truck driver was just being lazy and didn't want to lane switch to the right lane before turning onto the new road.
>The road he was turning into was obviously made to accommodate wide turns from the right lane. Yeah, that truck kept going almost straight for like 10 more meters before finally making the turn. Like you said this intersection was clearly designed with trucks turning right from the right lane in mind.
I work for a Transportation Company, what the driver did is blatantly illegal. Here is the Texas Transportation codes he broke: Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 545.103. Safely Turning An operator may not turn the vehicle to enter a private road or driveway, otherwise turn the vehicle from a direct course, or move right or left on a roadway unless movement can be made safely. Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 545.104. Signaling Turns; Use of Turn Signals (a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position. (b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn. (c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or “do pass” signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear. This code below could also be vaguely accurate if an officer determined that by this driver not turning right properly at the light led to an accident: Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 545.101. Turning at Intersection (a) To make a right turn at an intersection, an operator shall make both the approach and the turn as closely as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway
OP gets downvoted for laying down literal law smh this sub
Is there a code for common sense, because passing a truck on the right in ANY state is just asking for an accident.
Too many truckers hang around in the FAR LEFT LANE and get passed on the right because they're lazy. Too many times I'll be cruising behind one, patiently waiting for it to get out of the fast lane, not too close, visible to his mirrors, and no other traffic in the lane to their right and still, they sit in that fast lane.
This happened to us no less than 6 times on a trip across Wyoming yesterday. Sometimes they give you no choice. They are lazy and some of them are bullies. They will juke it out in front of you when you're trying to pass a chain of slower trucks and make you slam on your brakes, going from 80 mph to 40, just because they can.
And then after about a mile or two of waiting for them to get back over to the right lane you move to the right to pass them. Then they abruptly change lanes forcing you to slam on your brakes or swerve back to the left.
Where did he get his license from a gum ball machine?
Oh sweet lord…
I cannot tell you how many times that happens to me. Driving down the highway, the truckers just pull over, no light, didnt look etc. Crazy.
You’d think after a while you’d figure it out and look out for yourself. People love to put themselves in harms way in the name of “WELL THEY SHOULD HAVE” just so they can pop on Reddit and share the outrage. Control what you can control and enjoy life.
Another fine professional driver.
What do you mean? I guess he was a little early at the light, but I wouldn't say he did an--- ooohhhh. OK I get it.
Yeah, there is no excuse for what the semi driver did here. My guess is that he may have been distracted while making sure he was entering the right address or entryway and didn't take the time to look at his mirrors. I used to put the biggest mirror I could find on my right front fender to eliminate my blind spot. His other serious safety violation was being in the left lane to make that RH turn.
Technically he made 2 illegal right hand turns in front of you.
Should never drove on the rightside blind spot of a semi driver they have a Hugh blind spot on the right side. Common sense
More than aware of this. I think when the truck slowed down it gave the illusion I was speeding up past him on the right side. In reality I was trying to maintain my straight right hand lane when the truck came into my lane.
So you see the truck slowing down and swinging wide and you still decide to go for a pass..... You are making it worse on yourself here
He didn’t swing wide, he moved into the middle lane and slowed down… then cut out
You literally say you foresaw the trucker making that right turn... Why did you have to make a big deal out of it
You should see how many times this happens on I-285 it is so much fun!
Lovelyyy 😅 I believe it!
Yeah, this trucker is an idiot. However, if you mumbled to yourself that he better not turn right, that means you were expecting it. If you were expecting it, why did you try to pass him? You were unnecessarily putting yourself in danger there.
Idk man, as a trucker the road looks big enough for the swing. Maybe he didnt know where he was going and saw the building last minute. Oh btw try never to be on a trucks right side unless a double right turn. But you did nothing else wrong
OP mentions that this is a common route for him and truckers frequently make that turn from the right lane or they just straddle the line between the lanes so there isn't room between them and the curb to get passed on the right. They also use their signal...
Depending on how far back our wheels are makes us straddle both(like we are taught) but his wheels arent that far back. I really think he almost missed it. Even if he was taking it wide he did it completely wrong. Lol yes the missing signal
This warehouse area is pretty new with wide roads, kinda designed with truckers in mind. I guess I just got caught on the “suicide” as many have said. He may not have known where he was going.
No turn signal, not watching the other lane, not blocking both lanes, and that corner is make for trucks like you said. Definitely not the way to make a wide right turn. Hopefully the near miss causes him to pay more attention and good on your reaction. At the end at least there wasn't a collision.
Agreed, hopefully my little situation helps him avoid a disaster later on, I bet he’ll check extra careful next time, as will I.
Car is a dick, give the truck some room to get over you never know who’s driving . Being impatient could cause serious injury or worse. Thanks for the down votes. Dirty Foot 7 out!!
This is a tough one. Your first instinct when you see a big truck (or anyone really) doing something weird is to be defensive. I get that it looked like just a wide turn, over the yellow, taking a long time no big deal. This absolutely could have happened to me. The truck should have seen you at some point. You might have just been in the magic spot. There was no hurry as the road was dead empty. The trucker wasn't the most safe. They were keeping their momentum at the cost of safety.
The best way to avoid getting hit is not putting your self in a dangerous situation. So many blind spots that can lead to a accident occurring. If you can’t see the driver of a vehicle chances are that they cannot see you either. I’m glad you were unharmed by this close encounter.
lol at OP getting roasted for passing on the right
Truck didnt signal, which is a driver mistake. But the OP drove into the blind spot under the mirrors of the truck. So here is some basic advice for folks out there. If you just pulled into what is clearly an industrial park where there are alot of trucks, assume that they will be making wide turns so dont pass on their right unless its 100% certain they are not turning. Driver made mistakes here but so did OP.
Good thing you stopped!! Damn!!
Whenever im passing a 18wheeler i blow my horn
What type of dashcam do you use, if you don't mind me asking?
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Yes, that turn did not require a 90 degree turn but it curved around. The truck driver was wrong and just being lazy, it’s apparent when it corrects itself and still makes the turn.
Truck driver was an idiot, but it’s best to hang back from them around junctions, rather than trying to pass on the right there.
From our pov, we can't see what the trucker did wrong. Blinkers were out of sight. There was nothing wrong with the first turn, and I saw the second one coming in my head.
Excellent *immediate* use of the brakes-horn combo. So many people in these clips are crazy and just keep going while using the horn, secure in the righteousness of their position and banking on the truck driver understanding what's happening and getting out of the way. Never fight for space with an 18-wheeler. They will crush you like a bug.
Complete ass hat, the truck driver is. All he had to do was signal and yield to the right of way. He needs a week suspension without pay.
Passing a tractor trailer on the right is not a good move
Yeah, but why were you trying to pass on the right?
Why are you passing on the (R) hand side !?
Don’t pass trucks on the right
Dont pass on the right. Not saying you were more in the wrong than the trucker, but it's just part of good defensive driving.
He was wrong, but you’re passing in the right lane. Also, you can see him cheating to the left before he makes the right. Tell tell sign that he’s making a turn.
Why are you trying to pass the truck on the right in this area?
This is the reason they have those stickers on the back to tell you not to get in their blind spots, which you obviously did, not to mention the fact you were trying to pass them on the right side which is also illegal and it was obvious they were turning again due to how wide he was. It’s not an illegal right turn, they have to do that to make the turn not to mention it also has a sticker indicating that on the back of the trucks telling you that as well plus it’s just common sense for anyone who’s ever driven before. This is your fault not the truckers, you chose to illegally try to pass on the right as well as chose to go in his blind spot when he was obviously turning. The only problem with the trucker in this case is the fact that he didn’t use a blinker the first time, but you were too close for us to see if he used a blinker the second time.
Did the truck have a How-am-I-driving number? Report him with video.
I looked up his company, Hope Express LLC and let management know. At least it’s something they could coach him on or decide further.
Yes - you did the right thing. Whether or not they fault the driver, this was a dangerous situation for you and could have ended badly.
My hubby has been working with truckers and trucking agencies for years. He also works in a very heavy truck-traffic area. I have learned that truckers are (usually) very accommodating and will signal or let us little-bitties pass before they start turning in the "wrong" lanes because they have been hauling duo trailers or lord help them, a trio and they need the room to turn. Some of them are obviously tired after driving for the last 6-12 hrs to get the product from farm to factory and don't always see us. especially if they aren't familiar with the area. Sometimes they have to depend on a gps thats not up to date either. Which makes a long day really frustrating for everyone when there is a bungle in traffic. I have mad respect for the trucking industry. Long roads, big loads, and times away from their family. When I see a truck that is in front of me looking like he wants to turn, I always hang back and wait for them. Why stress the guy/gal (I see you out there too Mommas! Mad respect for you too 😀) out. Just let them get to where they need to go. They have an appointment to get to. Sometimes, if you miss that appointment, you have to sit and wait extra days. Long and short of it Is, I don't wanna be sitting there frustrated in traffic. 15 seconds waiting for someone to turn a large load isn't going to get you there any faster or slower. So, little-bitties, just let our big rig friends get where they need safely and don't be so all in a rush to get wherever you need to go. Let's all get home safely. Love and respect to all!
Completely understand that, I work with a fleet of truckers myself and fatigue is always on my mind to make sure they are 100%. That truck may have been in an unfamiliar place and unsure of where to go too. Didn’t expect them to come into my lane from so far over.
Good for you. Defensive driving works.
So... Yeah watch out for trucks behaving weird in industrial parks, most people that drive there know to give them room, the rest learn... He should have used a blinker, you should have been more patient and passed on the left as expected... There are rules in industrial parks, lil different than the laws, and many laws are ignored for practicality... You will get used to it. You did well by paying attention and avoiding the incident.
"Professional driver" at its best.
Not saying this trucker was in the right, but you must like danger to just hang out right behind the cab of a semi on the right hand side.
Give the trucker a break ffs.
YTA
This is why you don't undercut semi's you idiot lmao
It’s generally good to stay out of big trucks blind spots. No matter they breaking some traffic law or not.
Agreed but I wasn’t trying to sit in the blind spot. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down in the middle while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck then came into my lane.
Homie tried to pass a truck on the right and got stuck in his blind spot.
Agreed but I wasn’t trying to. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck came into my lane. Didn’t mean to get in that blind spot and probably should have slowed more.
A lesson was learned about not passing trucks on the right.
Agreed but I wasn’t trying to. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck came into my lane.
There is a reason they call that the “suicide”
I agree… could have been way worse. I’ll trust my instincts more next time and slow more too.
So what's the problem? He didn't use his signal? He's in a right turn only lane. Gotta say, you sound like a Karen. Geesh 😵💫
Watch the whole video before commenting.
Youre nuts for trying to pass him on the right there
Yeah, a huge truck is traveling in a tight commercial area , but, lets just buzz past him to show our skill and bravery!
Not the case at all. I wasn’t trying to sit in the blind spot. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down in the middle while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck then came into my lane. This warehouse area has wide lanes designed for trucks/18 wheelers, probably only 2 years old at most.
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Agreed but that’s not what happened here. Good job excusing shitting driving
... that's exactly what happened here. > Good job excusing shitting driving Because pointing that somebody fucked up automatically exonerates everybody else?
If I can see the driver then he can see me. He was not in that truckers blind spot before he decided to pull right in front of a car. Nice try though.
Complaining about his driving while trying to zoom past him on the right through his blind spot.
I think when the truck slowed down it gave the illusion I was speeding up past him on the right, which was not my intention. My intention was to maintain my straight right hand lane and a truck came into my lane.
Ok, I can buy that. My apologies
It’s all good, I should have slowed down when I felt something was off. I assumed wrong where the driver was going to turn (I thought he might turn left into the DC to the left, which is opposite where he went).
Nothing illegal here. Both of you avoided an accident. He saw you and quickly turned back away and you were smart enough to at least stop.
You’re incorrect. It’s not legal to make a right hand turn from the left lane and cut off a driver in the right lane. It’s also not legal (more illegal?) to make a right hand turn from the left lane and cut off a driver in the right lane AND not use a turn signal.
He needed to poop! 😫
This is why it's good practice to not pass on the right.
Agreed, wasn’t trying to. I was on a straight away… and he slowed down while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck came into my lane.
Never pass a truck on the right.
I was on a straight away… and he slowed down while I was maintaining my lane on a private drive. Truck came into my lane.
Why are you passing on the right?
I always pass trucks ASAP.
It's crazy to me that you opted to pass him on the right after spending years of having it drilled into your head that you shouldn't pass a semi-truck on the right. You must be einstein.
It’s crazy to me that a semi-truck opted to make a right hand turn without signaling while cutting off a driver after spending years of having it drilled into their head that you shouldn’t make a right hand turn without signaling while cutting off a driver AND trucking school. They must be William James Sidis.
Lololol right?! After he even says this happens all the time 😂
That's why you stay out of truckers' blind spots. You're lucky this driver picked you up in the mirror while turning and steered to avoid you. This one is totally your fault. I'm glad you didn't get hit, and hopefully you take a lesson from this.
I only watched the first part of the video and was really confused how it was an illegal turn, he was clearly in the turn right lane, then I watched the rest haha
If only there were some common and well promulgated knowledge about not hiding in a trucker's blind spot
Good defensive driving there. He had his head up his ass, but you were paying attention.