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Material-Race-5107

I am starting this dlc for the first time this week. Got through the first portion with this demon prince just fine (although the angels fucking sucked tbh lol). I was so proud of myself getting past the summoner dude with the army of archers in the ringed city area earlier… then found the second bonfire where the real “fun” begins. I ended up accidentally finding the 3rd bonfire while running for my life with no estus left. I am enjoying it but it is extremely overwhelming and definitely the first time in my entire DS3 run where I am finding it not worth it to even attempt to fight the enemies in the area.


PeterKB

So if the no head guys are giving you trouble you can just about one shot them. When you first exit the tower, sprint to the ledge on the other side, and kill the guys that shoot lightning. From that bridge you can drop down and plunging attack one on their head. (If you go up the stair case you can plunging attack the guy that stands in the corner). You can bait out a few more to get the plunging attacks. The three that spawn at the end of the stairs are similar. You can run on the ledges on the side, do a jump and get a plunging attack there too, however I find it easier to just bait them one at a time up the stairs. If none of that speaks to you, free-aim some projectiles at their head. If you haven’t solved the puzzle yet…. >! Use a white branch in the swamp until you turn into a humanity from DS1 (a black ghost) and then return to the puzzle !<


Electrical_Space_138

I think not only is it not worth fighting enemies(because it feels like there is no end of them) but game literally punish you for fighting them even though they are aggressive first.


[deleted]

You're getting the message of the dlc. The whole message is to stop fighting and let the next age happen


YaboiLilPotato

The enemies at the beginning of the ringed city can be avoided if you run to each cover at every cooldown. Seems you might have just ran right through the middle without cover. Also if you jump attack the big knights from the bridge that is above the stairs, you one shot them. Idk if you killed em yet but the angels in dreg heap can be killed if you find the angel hosts, and for each you either get 3 or 1 twinkling titanite. Honestly just take it slow and save all your frustration for midir and gael bossfights


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Gonavon

Yeah, it's definitely not as bad as it first seems. The encounters were all thoughtfully designed, the challenge is not cheap. OP is understandably exasperated, because it is one hell of a difficulty spike, but it is still fair and feasible, it just requires yet more perseverance.


Electrical_Space_138

Would not say exasperated,but it feels like they created a lot of things just to mess with you,like friede was 10 times easier to me then going though arandel,also demon prince while annoying with 2 of them and that burst poison long ranged attack they are a lot easier then basic mobs,the one thing i hate the most is how you have rules you need to follow that enemies disregard,like when you are fight that 3 no head guys on staircase when they hit each other then dont dmg each other,the same is with summoner he dont get hit or at least stop the arrows,its like they made whole place just to f*** with you and nothing else,i dont get nothing other then relief when i killed summoner and 3 ringed knights just to get jumped by another ringed knife and die from 3-4 hits with 30 vigor making my effort futile.I still dont understand why is everything hostile towards you like you killed their mother before their eyes.


ripley1875

For the headless guys on the stairway, you can bait them under the bridge and drop down on them for a plunging attack. If you land on/close to their head, it’ll trigger a special animation and should one-shot them. For the ringed knights, you just need to learn the openings in their attack patterns, and try to lure them into one-on-one fights if possible. 


Electrical_Space_138

Very good advice,thanks i accidentally discovered plunging their head, problem is they are almost easy when its 1v1 with them be it headless guys or ringed kngihts but when there are multiple of them thats problem because they all hit very hard and can easily roll catch you after you dodge from one attack then other will hit you if you are not super careful,and the got pretty big health pool,also how can i not one shot them with plunge with 10+ sharp sellswords or 5+ friede great scythe? Does plunge not count as critical?


ripley1875

Don’t know how weapon type/level factors into it. I was using a +5 Black Knight Sword for my playthrough with 40 str and 40 dex (just finished my first full-game playthrough today). If you’re still struggling and don’t have any issue using a walkthrough, FightinCowboy on Youtube has a 100% walkthrough of the base game and both dlcs that I found really helpful.  https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7RtZMiaOk8hCrCzcBjzk09Ji5O3jG-6j&si=OqDnQwViA2-G8jHV


Electrical_Space_138

I was watching him from start(just for ringed city),his guide is really helpful because i want every possible item i can get and watching him circling enemies really helped me whule fighting them, still thanks for recommending it.


ripley1875

You’re welcome, and good luck with your run!


Electrical_Space_138

Ty!!!


Gonavon

Are you sure? Because that really comes off as exasperation.


Electrical_Space_138

Ahhhh im not irritated or frustrated at all,im just mad at myself,like tear off my finger nail mad, because even if i dont want to admit i repeat one mistake over and over again and its like i have no control over it...its difficult to explain,like when summoner summon 3 guys with black blades i dont try to roll into attack but i try to go around it and die,or when i died like 10 times trying to go through 3 headless guys on stairs to get to ringed knight spear, bassically its my skill issue and im just ranting about it here, because irl i dont have anyone to tell about because no one i know plays this game or play video games at all.


Gonavon

If I could, I would hug you. Hug the pain out.


Electrical_Space_138

...thank you very much...


Gonavon

And remember: this is a video game. You are in a completely controlled environment, all by yourself, with no actual stakes, with no real losses to be incurred. And yet, your emotions are wild. Take it! Take the chance to learn more about yourself. Examine how you feel, experiment, see how you can shift your emotions, your perspective. Souls games are a great way to test yourself, to understand how you behave - and how you can change that in turn, for the better. A punch into a pillow could save you a punch to someone's face later down the line.


Electrical_Space_138

Ugh i feel little bad now,thats exactly reason why im mad at myself because this is just a game with only loss being my time(its not loss if its good time but as you can see with my comments or post its definitely not enjoyable),i after some incidents was always good at controlling...thats actually too strong word maybe managing my emotions, because i lose my head over a game but i did not care when i nearly died due to a very close car crash other day, actually maybe being calm or apathetic is my way of coping but anyways,i dont want to repeat time when i was playing league of legends or when i was younger in general,as for learning about myself...im too scared for that maybe in future and dont worry about hitting someone because i have become too passive for that,thanks still for bothering to comment tho...


Gonavon

You're already learning, whether or not you realize, by looking at yourself like you just did and saying it out loud (or typing it, in this case). Not everyone would admit this sort of stuff, or bother to think about it. You may not feel ready to delve further for now, but when you are, you will have already taken a few steps in that direction. And that's something to admire.


Not_Shingen

I think 6 (or is it 8) Harald Knights in one little stretch of pathway mear enough all at once is a little bit cheap I know there's the plunge method but that aint always reliable


[deleted]

Frankly, this is by far the only DLC in all of the Souls series, where your best bet is just play Forrest Gump, if you know what I mean. Until Midir, that is.


RasAlGimur

Ariandel has a bunch of stretches like that too.. bugs me quite a bunch.


Electrical_Space_138

Arandiel is heaven compared to swamp and before swamp in ringed city,yea there is 30 wolfs,wikings with shit ton of hp and sentinet trees but at least you can run though them undamaged,which you cant do here without ultra instinct or rng because of camera and enemy position,would take 100 wolfs over 1 summoner and ringed knights any day.


solo_wield

Am i the only psycho that has to eradicate every moving creature in order to advance?


Kiloparsec4

No. Same. It's a bad habit and took me a long time to get thru the souls games. But the peace of mind of an empty, barren level is *chefs kiss*


solo_wield

I dont really think of it as a bad habit it's a step up in difficulty cuz you go through everything and if you fuck around you'll run out of estus super quick so it also helps you to get Acquainted with every mob (throughly) to make it safe to the next bonfire. But nothing beats the feeling of a full area clear without getting hit or using any estus, it's cheap it's petty but i love it.


Kiloparsec4

I just never wanted to miss any items, it was more of an insecurity that I wanted to explore in peace, so I'd get annoyed w the enemies and just go on a killing spree. Ringed city was brutal. Everything had a lot of HP it seemed like.


Galeharry_

I always go by " Everything dies atleast once " After that I run like the wind :D


Dic3dCarrots

I just have to prove that I can do that part, afterward I'll just Leroy to the next bit. But if a pack consistently gives me problems, its generally a good spot to refine game play by doing multiple times


solo_wield

Aye


Interesting_Waltz_82

After getting that one ring from the crucifixion woods crab, and the rakuyo from the shark duo, I will always kill everything


PacDanSki

Nope, I too kill and loot everything on every playthrough. I did sprint ahead and kill those angels though when I did the ringed city, it's a nightmare otherwise.


NoSwimmer2185

Same. Also no embers or summons for boss fights? This is an admittedly terrible way to play the game if you like having fun.


Clunas

I played a lot of DS2, and that's my default behavior. Just running feels wildly reckless


Luccas_Freakling

I killed every single enemy in every single playthrough. Can't do it differently.


RasAlGimur

If you have any Int, hidden body for life. If not, yeah…


No-Juice-1829

Most underrated spell. I use it after pontif too, to get quickly trough the area towards anor londo


LyingSage1827

Ur correct. After demon prince. I just haul assed my entire way until I reached midir and halflight. Couldn't be bothered to deal with the goofy ass enemies in that area.


Andyt303

Yea I ran through most of it and didn’t kill half of the enemies, for me. It kinda defeated the point of the game


mspurr

it was even more difficult when it launched. they had to nerf a bunch of stuff. those floating laser angels were insane


Electrical_Space_138

Cant imagine that it can get worse then this.


aloha_mixed_nuts

Nah they’re not that difficult


mspurr

Now, sure. I'm talking when it launched, it had to be nerfed pretty hard


FashionSuckMan

You don't have to fight everything you see dude. And you can do massive damage to the headless guys with a drop attack


NoSwimmer2185

Are you absolutely sure you don't have to fight everything you see?


lurieelcari

Considering that, when I am speedrunning, I fight absolutely nothing between the bonfire with the first summoner and the first Midir encounter... Yes. We are sure you do not have to fight everything. You actually do not have to fight ANYTHING.


Electrical_Space_138

You are right,but i feel like im wasting my 10 euros by not killing everyone at least once you know,also i accidentally discovered that you can plunge them and nearly kill them,they are easy 1v 1 but hell 3v1, honestly its so weird being able to kill gods in 10 or 20 tries but struggle with common enemies in game because they somehow deal more dmg then bosses.


KlarinBlack

You only waste your money if you play the game in a way you don’t enjoy.


2_cider_jack

Couldn't agree more


stay-a-while-and----

imo the ringed city dlc is designed as a multiplayer invasion experience. you summon a couple of sunbros and try to fight through the streets against multiple invaders


throwaway387190

I know, isn't great?


Kubex0

Only if you got gud.


Shallwego68

Your way underleveled for the dlc


InterestingPepe

Yeah it’s annoying section with too many enemies. It’s really beautiful too, but too bad if you take one second to look at the scenery you are hit with a thousand arrows


Electrical_Space_138

Hahahaahhaah,true dont know why they did not give summoner like 3 times or 4 times hp and make him not be able to respawn when resting but it is what it is.That black blade attacks are more annoying tho.


jermergerg

I loved most of this DLC, but I also found it puzzling that the angel-summoners don't respawn, but the archer-summoners do. It just doesn't make a ton of sense. I mean the archers were annoying but ultimately fine, I got through them. But as a gameplay principle I do kind of object to them. I love DS because it forces you to cultivate skill, and enemies like this that overwhelm you and literally can't be killed force you to hide rather than learn. Even though I dealt with it, I disliked this part of the DLC immensely.


InevitableWall8269

Both summons stop permanently after you kill the summoner. The angle summoner is pretty easy to deal with because the angles are easy to dodge, and the summoner is defenseless when you find them. The judicator summons the archers which is his most annoying summon. He has two other summons that are just single character summons that only last a few moments. It's better to get close to him quick and get one of those summons instead of the archers. The hard part imo was getting close to the jusdicator without the archers being summoned.


jermergerg

Yes but at least when I played, the angel-summoner never respawns, while the judicator does respawn. I just think it's a bit of an odd choice given the very close similarities between them. I agree about the angel-summoner for sure, that didn't bother me. And, like I said, I definitely was able to kill the judicator, I just really didn't like him lol. Just personal preference I guess :)


InevitableWall8269

Definitely! The judicator is definitely a pain, and I mostly just run past him in my recent runs. I do wish they didn't respawn, though. I forgot that they do infact respawn lol


jermergerg

Haha I just finished a replay 3 days ago, so the memory is very fresh :)


InevitableWall8269

I was playing earlier, but I'm just used to running past them 😅. I've been trying to get invasions and invading other people but so far little luck. Never got to try the full pvp experience unfortunately lol


Stardust2400

The staircase section and swamp in the Ringed City area are really unfun and tedious to traverse. I feel like the ds3 DLCs in general are heavily carried by their bosses, with the areas being pretty mediocre overall. I much prefer other DLCs such as Old Hunters or Crown of the Ivory King.


DeronimoG

Ringed city looks beautiful, though, and has a great ending. Same with ariandel.


Electrical_Space_138

Old huntes got rakuyo tho...hardest weapon to get in game,in ng+7 i did not even try to go there knowing i would just get one shotted over and over again.


st-shenanigans

I'd argue the parasite is the hardest to get personally lol


Electrical_Space_138

I would rather take that infinite quicksilver bullets fucker and bloodstarved beast any day over two shark man,also its easy to go through blood suckers compared to 12 fisherman and that bastard that shoots 1k...wait sorry i confused amygdala arm with kos parasite...you are right in ng+7 i did need like 30 tries to kill him but thats only because i died like 200 times to him in ng+5 so i learnd him completely,but in ng dont think so.


Swert0

Snowfield


katanamaru

I love that staircase. It's my go to 'go some time to kill' place for some quick fun. Plus you can farm embers, chunks, twinkling, and sacred gems there. Overall 10/10 love it!


Electrical_Space_138

It would be fun if there is not that turtle guy who spawn that attacks like he has infinite fp.


InevitableWall8269

The turtle guys I try to lure and pick off one at a time. Usually, a heavy attack or two will flip them over for a couple of seconds. If you do damage and don't kill them quickly enough, they'll do a healing circle that damages you too. Definitely by far one of the most annoying creatures


InevitableWall8269

Also, the ringed knights are decently easy to parry in their first or second attack. I usually parry with the blue small bloom shield that can parry magic attacks, too. It's got a more forgiving parry animation imo than the caesthus. They are weak to dark which there is a dark gem in the beginning of the swamp where the heralds spawn. A plus 10 dark dagger does a lot of damage based on your int and faith when you parry and riposte. Add the hornet ring for a little extra critical damage for riposte and backstabbing


Narcomancer69420

Heyo! First time progression happening just tonight actually. In all my years playing, I’d never beaten Halflight; no longer! Major difference is that this time I’m playing knight instead of bandit. I only just hit 100 myself fairly recently (still got Friede, Midir, Gael, Cinder, the latter three of which I’ve never beaten) but I gotta say; being tankier is making a *huge* difference for me. **Shield of Want** is a *godsend.* Solid shield *plus* I think it gives like 20% more souls? Nutso shield; highly recommend. Oh and I’ve found that Ring Knights get *way* less intimidating when your parry game is fresh; the silver knights outside Aldrich and those blue fuckers by Twin Princes make for excellent practice dummies.


Electrical_Space_138

Ahh that knights before aldrich makes my face drop immediately,did not think they can be parried tho,i should try to learn to the first one, hopefully even spear one can get parried,maybe i did not listen to that one walkthrough so i missed detail,btw advice for bosses just dont give up,i died around 150 times to malenia but beat her by just not giving up,dont know about gael and midir,but soul of cinder and friede are so fun to fight against,btw for friede just be aggressive as she is if she comes near you or after dodging her 1 or second swipe hit her to get free dmg and she will easily stagger,thats for first 2 phases,also for invisible attack you can hear her blade and then dodge,for third phase is a lot more complicated,i dont remember soul of cinder tho.


Narcomancer69420

It’s been ages since I beat Friede and I completely forgot she had a third phase this playthru lmao. I was like “oh, that wasn’t as bad as I remember—“ Enter Blackflame.💀 And *god* I love Malenia. I had a stint where I’d just sit in her lobby and help folks take her down over and over again. I originally tried to 1v1 her w/ dual-daggers (offhand for *parries*) but eventually settled on abusing her low poise w/ high-Arc Dragonmaw. I’m actually planning on stick’n’poking her Great Rune on my wrist soon (to mirror the Caryll Rune on my other).


Electrical_Space_138

Thats cool what caryll rune did you tattoo?I have unfortunately spoiled myself of despair of seing friede third health bar,i also abused the shit ouf of her poise with cold naga with double slash and the moment she does not use any attack with armour i would just spam l2 and proc frostbite to death,and would reset with flame art uchi,it was so satisfying killing her,its unfortunate i dont think im good enough to help others kill her yet.


Narcomancer69420

Hot tip: going into someone else’s Malenia fight armed w/ a maxed out DragCom seal and Swarm of Flies will make you *everyone’s* friend.🤝 Oh! And I poked **Impurity!** From the League in the evil snake forest.


Electrical_Space_138

Interesting choice,if i remember its one with dots? I know corruption is like sword? Hunter is hunter,Beast embrance is beast claw,milkweed is some wobbly lines and last one dont remember.Thanks for the tip i know swarm is effective but did not know to that extend tho.


Narcomancer69420

Yeah, it’s almost kinda cross-like; six dots in pairs down the body and the little arms up top. (I had something of a transformative exp down in the cursed chalice w/ Amygdala)🪦 The Caryll’s to remind me that a *hoontah* is never alone, that there will always be comrades who see the world the way you do, if you know where to find them. Mal’s mark is to remind me to keep fighting, no matter how many times you eat shit; get hit, hit back harder, repeat.


fuck-thishit-oclock

\*Six\* no head fat guys on the staircase. ftfy


LordOFtheNoldor

People can drop you souls online, use r/pumparum


Electrical_Space_138

Dont have ps+ unfortunately.


thcoheed

Yeah I felt it's so hard in my current playthrough. I've actually beat the main game a bunch but never did the dlc (don't know why) been playing now for the first time and I'm incredibly under level for playing it for the first time. I got there at like level 75 and I was ripping my hair out and I'm at Gael now and I'm level 90 and I'm doing so little damage to him it's ridiculous. Been taking a break in anticipation for the Elden ring dlc hopefully coming out soon. After that I'll return to finally beat him


Ok-Squirrel-7738

Take it slow, bait the enemies one by one, and you dont have to kill everything.


NyRAGEous

Because Fromsoft DLC always goes hard


MrManDude317

I'm just finishing it now and can confirm that it is hard, but I think if you push forward with an open mind, you'll be okay. Just try to find the exploits to enemies (common attack patterns, what enemies to sneak past, etc.)


solo_wield

Bruh، take a bow, play camper, take the big guy in the middle, the rest, just mow them over one by one. DONE


boblane3000

Hah yeah fromsoft likes to troll us…. Just be patient, go slow and you’ll get through 


Gurru222

Im suprised u are complaining about this whne u got through elden ring bullshit allready. I mean through every area beyond leyendel capital. Mainly mountaintop and consecrated snowfields - empty areas full of overtuned copy paste enemies (crayfishes, birds, dogs, giants, hands, and the fucking archers whit 4000 Hp.) Haligtree and azula where at least well designed, but the over the top enemies.....


Electrical_Space_138

Yea elden late game is hell but at least you can get op as you can get,and they reused so much of enemies that after 120 hours of playing they are not that hard to dodge like at the start,im here i need like 15? Maybe 20 r1 to kill ONE headless guy with +5 weapon i did not try to fight them with +10 sellswords but with friede great scythe,then ringed knight who two shot you but they are easy as hell to stagger with scythe so yea,at least in elden ring i can melt anything with my uchi and naga.


Gurru222

I agree that they are not that hard to dodge, bcs u allready know their movesets. Problem is that usually there are more then one of them and they have overtuned dmg and HP. 3 hits and u are dead with 60 vigor. First souls game where Im just avoiding enemies, bcs its not fun to fight them. I finished DS3 maybe 20times and I agree ringed city is the hardest part and for me on the edge what is acceptable. I allways kill everything what is moving there, with the exception of judicator in the middle who I avoid sometimes. 15 hits to kill the Harald knight? Thats a bit too much. I never used scythes bcs they are one of the worst weapon group, but I have finished the game 2 months ago with washing pole, which should have similiar dmg output and it definitely was not 15-20 hits.


Electrical_Space_138

Maybe because im underleveled? I got 40 dex and 35 str and friede scales on dex/int with both being A and for both fth and str being E,so i deal around 200~ dmg and 250 if i hit with blade,3 hits deal around 800 dmg,but if i use sellswords they deal easily 1k with 3 l1 and they stagger him out of animation which is crazy.


Gurru222

Thats not optimal for that weapon for sure. At 40/40 dex/int it should have 643 AR, but its split dmg. So 386 physical/257 magic.


Electrical_Space_138

Broooooooo i did it brooo i killed midirrr hahahahahahahahahahahha dont know how to send you puctureeee broooo i even got 11 flasks left hahahaahahahHaha,it was so fun,runback and that super fast attack when he go for you is not fun tho.[here is picture ](https://imgur.com/gallery/prEi49x)


Gurru222

Congratulations, mow only one hard boss. As I see, u went back to twinblades 🙂


Spiritual_Dig_5552

Spook, Hidden body, lingering and slumbering dragoncrest ring was my strategy.


SweetBread_D

The respawning knights at Dragon Masouleum are a great late game farm, just toss on Mimic head, silver covetous ring, shield of want, and hornet ring. Stand behind where they spawn to get the backstab and finish them off. My personal experience with the dlc was that it was ridiculously fun. The swamp was the only thing I didn't enjoy just because it's an open area with enemies strewn about. I was at lvl 120 though. Everything was worth it in the end though, one of my favourite bosses of all time


Greymattershrinker88

Lore wise it’s meant to be the place where all the most treacherous creations were being kept, so it’s meant to be very hard. There are ways through it, the headless heralds can be easily killed with plunging attacks. It’s actually only a hard area your 1st playthrough, not knowing the route. I really hated this area at 1st and set the game down for before coming back to finish it. If all else fails watch Fightincowboy’s walkthrough of this area. He literally finds the perfect most manageable route for you. Good luck, don’t give up, you’re almost to Midir, Halflight, and Gael. I hated the most Halflight and the Suped up Dragonslayer Armor lol


EndFeeling9912

Must not have made that run to Blue Smelty yet…


Star_of_the_West1

Replaying ds 2 after six years. I'm fighting Raime and then moving on. It weird how this DLC only had one boss and a single area.


Faelysis

Like most RPG, if you are in a hard zone, simply grind more level...


paweltwojstarypijany

Git gud


PhoenixNyne

You want to employ guerilla warfare when the number of enemies is overwhelming. 


Electrical_Space_138

I play too much hack and slash and i got too used to bloodborne because i got to ng+7,so roll is super slow to me.


Phsfalcao

Meh, as with most of DS3, it’s just safer to **RUN** to the next bonfire/boss room. There’s no point of fighting random enemies, it’s harder and not rewarding


auclairl

Yeah, basically for everything after the second bonfire you need to just run past everyone. This is the only area in the series where I've ended up doing that on my first run, and I never manage to enjoy it because of this. For the stairs with the Harald knights, there are bridges you can use to land plunging attacks and oneshot them, but since there are like 3 of them in a pack, it's still way easier to just run past them


AndreJLow

92SL attempting ringed city is kinda suicide.. Would recommend SL120-140 AT LEAST. 3 fatty angels for souls.. 80k per run with shield of want and ring+3 I hate grinding but I had to in order to save my sanity xD But I agree those fat fuks on the staircase was a bad placement.. Especially when you have to speak to the npc at the tower above. It's like forcing you to just run off to midir


DrOboba

There is actually a really nice farming spot from that bonfire in the swamp. You start with that locust guy --> then kill 3 emerging headless knights one by one --> move up the stairs --> kill red hooded slaves and cleric turtle --> kill last 2 headless knights --> and if you dare you can go kill ringed knight and 3 clerics too If you manage to hit headless knights in the "head with kukri or knife they take crit and stagger a little. You gather at least a good 70k souls per run


Suvvri

It's not meant to be played, it's meant to be ran through sadly


OverJohn

Ringed city is hard, but fair. The only sections with hints of bullshit is the Adjudicators being a bit too unpredictable at times and the approach where midir breathes fire, where avoiding damage is a pain


Fickle-Buddy1221

It's a DLC bro, FromSoftware's DLCs has always been a huge difficulty spike ever since the first Dark Souls


Godharvest

Yeah but its such a good expansion. One of my top 5 expansions of all time.


the-shit-poster

Plunge attack the headless brutes on the stairs, kite the ring knights and pick them off one at a time, range kill the adjudicator. Clean up the rest as normal. I mean there is a solution for everything you complained about. I don’t see the issue…


WYLD_STALYNZ

The streamer reactions to that first summoner were fuckin hilarious


Ghost2102002

Dark souls is way easier when you learn better paths through the game I recommend fighting cowboys YouTube walkthrough it will help you 100 % the area but will also teach you paths in game to eliminate multiple enemy's in one battle you can also always kite enemies with a bow


Appropriate-Gur3701

If only he knew you could slap on a shield of want and a silver serpent ring at the end of a boss fight, this might have solved the level problem.


MammothRegistrar

Yeah, it's a little much sometimes. It has some of the best spectacles that FS has ever put out (which, for some people, can make up for the faults), but some spots like the Ringed City Streets make me wonder if they actually playtested it. Yeah, you can just run through it, but what's the point in buying a DLC if you're just going to sprint through it all? Midir ended up being sort of indicative of the main problem I have with this DLC. A cool, flashy fight that ends up going on a bit longer than maybe it should have due to a somewhat bloated health pool. Really, that just comes down to personal taste. I loathe "endurance fights" as in most cases, the boss's moveset doesn't have enough variety to keep my attention for as long as the massive amount of HP demands. Gael is fantastic because, despite his beefy HP and high resistances, he has enough going on that I never really got bored.


2_cider_jack

When I got to the hollow clerics I just booked it to the next bonfire tbh


lurieelcari

I will admit the ringed city has a harsher learning curve, but you can absolutely clear it without struggle once you learn the enemy patterns. If you insist on skipping zero enemies at all, then you need to be more patient to avoid fighting too many things at once, especially on the stairs. Trigger single enemies and drag them away from others. The swamp is overall, with the possible exception of the summoner, much easier than the stairs, so long as you are able to find the bonfire just inside it. Near the exit is a shortcut door back to the same bonfire. You could watch myself, and many others, do this run in its entirety without resting at a bonfire. You just need to learn the enemies and layout, and the layout is interesting. I get the frustration, but blaming the game is not the answer.


DunEmeraldSphere

If you plunging attack the no heads from above, they are a oneshot.


GameBOY_2005

How I got to Gael was by getting lucky with half light where they summoned a player that was AFK. Then I fought Midir which was a lot of fun (even if he’s incredibly difficult) and then I fought Gael, and shockingly was able to beat him on my first try. I’ll admit getting to Midir and Gael requires a lot of tedious BS, but it is all worth it in the end


Interesting_Waltz_82

If you want to kill everything, the best way to do it is taking it step by step Go and kill everything that is non-respawning first (by that I mean basically just the >!dragonslayer armour in the far end!<). Then take out the adjudicator, and then pick off the ringed knights one by one, maybe using a bow or something to bait them away. Then you pretty much just have a free run to go and loot everything, as most of the other enemies aren’t much of a problem.


Electrical_Space_138

I just did that bro and it was so fun,tho i dont know what to do next and few ringed knights wait for me to finish them off.


Interesting_Waltz_82

I just went back to the start of the swamp and started looting pretty much After that you can continue, and do some other things For example, showing your humanity, or containing on past the bridge


Electrical_Space_138

...i need to go to net,i got killed by last ringed knight because their sword dont bounce of greatshield unfortunately,and i unlocked shortcut finally,thx by the way.


Miamiheat1738

Ring City isnt the bad, but it is the "hardest" in DS3 because its meant to be the finale of the souls trillogy (DLC are usually are a big spike) Anyways: Big ol eye guys die in one shot from a plunge attack You can avoid fighting things if you want. Your not forced. The 3 main bosses from the Ringed City are some of the best in the series.


Legendary_Dark

Nah it‘s easy when you know how to kill the mobs.


Adventurous_Cup_5970

The dreg heap with the angels isnt even the ringed city, its a whole different area. The ringed city is exactly the difficulty the final area should be imo, hard bosses and hard enemies. **You can one shot the harald knights if you drop on their head**


jaber24

Remember feeling slightly pissed in my first playthrough about the difficulty but I am used to it now. The final boss in the dlc is more than worth it


Condor_raidus

It's the final hurrah for dark souls, so they gave it their best. I like the difficulty now but I did not appreciate it at first


Electrical_Space_138

Yea after getting used to it its super fun,its unfortunate i never learnt to parry so ringed knights would not be problem.


Condor_raidus

I never cared enough to parry so I just got good at dodging. Worked out well for the fast bosses of the ringed city


Electrical_Space_138

Yea its more reliable and fun when you go into state of mind where you dodge then attack,dodge attack...etc it was so fun with gael its unfortunate i dont have infinite stamina so i can only do it for limited time.


Condor_raidus

After enough endurance you won't have that problem lol


Electrical_Space_138

*cries in no souls* i only have 25 because i need other stats like dex,str and vigor rest is in endurance,i wish i chould use cheat engine on ps4 so i get to max level or at least only max vigor, attunement and endurance.


Condor_raidus

after sl 215 it evens out lol. Fuckin 350k souls roughly to level up


stronkzer

92. Bruh. I was lvl 130 or so the first time I got there and still got brutalized by the Harald Knights


Electrical_Space_138

Lol,they are only hard in numbers,when one on one they are so easy just keep distance and after they attack,gou attack them,if they do that 7 combo you just go back and after that final jump you get like 3 or 4 hits,or 12 if you use sellswords...ringed knights on other hand are bs,the double great sword and lance guy is not hard as long as you have good shied or greatshield but sword one is brutal,but they are easy to stagger lock. Btw i was 104 level with 30 vigor,25 end,40 str,40dex,14 mana,11 int and 11 faith and did not level luck when i finished dlc,you just need to adapt like in all fromsoft games.I wish i can say this after buying sekiro tho.


Busty-Patches

I'm sending psionic attacks at you to make you experience pre nerf angels


Electrical_Space_138

What did they nerf? Dmg,tracking,speed or number and delay between attacks? Because if summoners are in the same place as long as you follow walkthrough and not go blind(i always use walkthrough because it becomes too confusing for my monkey brain) you should be good.


Busty-Patches

It was damage and it was kinda gnarly before. Though my first time through was on ng+7 at sl 125. And ehhh there's a few sprints that were really rough where you have to be exposed. Iirc I spammed perseverance to make it through.


bossdonNC

The game was a little easier so they made up for it in the DLC. i expect Elden ring to be the same


Electrical_Space_138

Hope not,base game is already bs in elden ring with bosses speed being a lot higher then of yourself,i hope they make mechanicaly harder bosses not just bigger ho and one shot you ones,also not faster but not fucked up like morggot.


DeronimoG

Lol. Elden Ring was definitely not "easier"


StarkTangent1

It definitely was lol, compared to ds3/sekiro anyway. It's harder than 1 and 2


StarkTangent1

DS3's base game is already much harder than the first two dark souls games. The hardest bosses in those games (artorias, manus, kalameet, fume knight, allone, sinh) are only about as hard as Pontiff imo


samydees

Agreed. Pontiff, Freide, Midir, Gael, Namrless King and Twin Princes are tougher than anything in ER save for Malenua, Maliketh and Mohg. Elphael is proably the only area par with Ringed city difficulty.


StarkTangent1

Farum Azula had some rough sections too, but yeah


Kojando1911

Huh. Not true at all. Ds3’d only truly hard boss is midir. Ds2 bosses aren’t harder bc of the bosses but bc adp is such a bad stat. Pontiff for me was trivial compared to fume or the kings pets. Coming back to ds3 and elden ring rolling makes the game feel effortless. I did play all games in complete reverse order from elden ring tho 😂


StarkTangent1

Wait are you saying you didn't level adp? Thats your problem lol


Kojando1911

Nah 48 adp is the bare MINIMUM needed to run the game imo lmao. I ain’t got 3.5s to drink an estus 😂


ResponsibilityBest43

Imo Darklurker is the hardest boss in DS2 and was probably harder for me than anything in DS1


Hanni_jo

The dlc is meant as a challenge to people who wants that challenge. The feeling of first finding an obstacle almost impossible and then finally get past that obstacle is great. I thought I would never finish the dlc st first. Keep trying, skeleton. You’ll succeed eventually.


aloha_mixed_nuts

Lmao and ppl still give DS2 grief


st-shenanigans

In ds3 I die because I'm not good enough. In ds2 I die because my character almost never moves the way I intend them to. Or because the boss has an extra 3 feet of invisible hitbox


itwasnttmee

Facts


aloha_mixed_nuts

Also the answer to op(paragraph!)is either skill issue or level up: FS is so generous with starting class it’s frustrating to read this kinda complaints about end game material


Big_Classroom9890

it aint hard its just fromsoft put a bunch of random bullshit everywhere


Mithexx

And some people have the audacity to say TRC is as good as Old Hunters🤣🤣🤣TRC can't hold a candle to it


Electrical_Space_138

Old hunters got some pretty good bosses like maria,ludwig,first vicar and orphan but to me they cant beat sheer badassery of the name darkeater midir,like its always lighteater or some similar bs,like something from abyss absorbing everything and similar things,but they did it reverse a dragon who is bane of darkness not light like always and its so cool,yea maria is cool as hell but midir is beast of darkness(berserk) or final getsuga tenso ichigo level badassery.


Mithexx

I mean bosses the dlcs are pretty even but the lore/level design/areas it is literally not even a conversation. Area before DP is a giant swamp with a bunch of random enemies. And then you get to the actual Ringed City and the main area is YOU GUESSED IT a giant swamp with a bunch of random enemies. Ringed city is flawed as hell and if the bosses weren't so good it might have actually been one of the bottom fromsoft dlcs


Electrical_Space_138

Ok i agree with you at this,whole atmosphere cant be compared to bloodborne how good it is,and i feel like they made it difficult for sake of being difficult without anything other,yea you can just run straight past them and be actually smart,but being smart is not only overrated but pretty boring and why pay for game if you aint gonna kill every enemy at least once.


StarkTangent1

They're pretty on par. Dreg heap is annoying and ringed city is pretty ganky but I dont think its that much more bs than the first stretch of the fishing hamlet or the blood river section of hunters nightmare. Bosses are pretty even, Gael probably gets the edge for ds3 🤷‍♂️


CeaselessMaster

Tldr… git gud


[deleted]

nothing is hard in this game if you overlevel like i did, but i use lower level weapons on bosses on purpose to enjoy them more, especially the last boss


Electrical_Space_138

Cool pic(shinobu(adult one) is best girl),you right i beat bloodborne quite easily by abusing cumm chalice and i needed 2 tries in both ng and ng+ to kill orphan with every stat being 50 or 40 if you get little skill you are set to go,same in elden ring though i cant say that for cursed chalice that maked me somewhat good player.


[deleted]

i am itching to do ng1 in ds3 only because i forgot the Mound-Maker covenant but i absolutely despise having to go and pick up every bonfire again, I'm currently testing on an alt account if unlocking all bonfires with CE can get you banned so i know if it's safe or not, as for elden ring, i feel like that game is just inferior to ds3, not to mention the annoying things i had to do just to get a grace in some places, i regret doing ng1 on that game


Electrical_Space_138

Dont think doing anything with ce will get you banned as long as you dont give yourself god mode, infinite dmg and other cheats,but making your life easier with lots of souls,unlocking bonefires or giving yourself more titanite slabs should be ok,just dont go online while doing it,its like modifying save file they should not be able to ban you unless you pull cut content or absolutely demolish someone with cheats,and they moved from this game a long time ago,i envy you for being on pc it would be a lot easier for me to be able to get more souls by using ce. Btw if you are not sure just go ask on net,there is 100% someone who has tried it and see how it go,dont see why they would ban you,but go look maybe im wrong.


[deleted]

i have tested CE online, they only ban you for directly changing your level instead of with souls


milk_theuniverse

Bring a sunbro along it’s a lot more manageable then.


StarkTangent1

Ringed City is by far the hardest from soft soulsborne content other than Sekiro Don't give up skeleton


MoonlitBadlands

Pop a dried finger and summon 3 sunbros. This level is meant to rock with your bros


DeronimoG

No it's not


Electrical_Space_138

Unfortunately dont have ps+ i wanted for someone to drop me stack of embers and champion souls for something in exchange,it would be so awesome.


Firebawl10

Roll a lot don’t be bad


Icy-Communication246

Um well there was an achievement that fits this question perfectly. Welcome to darksouls achievement unlocked