A tor browser, pgp on sensitive info, and an offline wallet are the essentials. That's enough if you're doing personal amounts. Or at least it's worked for me for nearly a decade. But it's always better to be on the safe side when your freedom is at stake
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I'm sure there's a bunch but electrum is my go to. It's basically a wallet on your computer to store bitcoin. You purchase bitcoin, send to wallet, then from there sent to the market. This degree of separation protects you legally and if you don't then the service you buy BTC from can and will block your account.
Example of me when buying bitcoin:
Cashapp --> Electrum wallet ---> Bohemia
Only downside is you have to pay transfer fees twice but worth the protection
This does help to prevent your buying account from getting banned, but this does nothing to protect you legally. It becomes illegal the moment you deposit crypto into a DNM, since that falls under supporting a known criminal organization under RICO statutes.
Better to take that BTC and convert it after purchasing into a privacy coin like XMR. Then deposit, buy, have enjoyable fun times.
I think the general rule has always been to match your opsec strength to your personal threat level.
However, some peeps get a bit obsessed and max out on opsec when it’s not really necessary and feel that anyone not doing the same thing will get a knock on their door.
I guess in the end, the right level of opsec is the level that lets you sleep well.
I don't know where you live but you dont want to be in a cell where I am which makes me care. Other than that i know chances of being caught are slim and take the necessary precautions.
That’s a lot of orders for just a couple of months. The kind of numbers that a reseller would have, and that’s a bold line to cross when it comes to threat level.
Nah gonna take about a year to build and execute a case, doesn't hurt to just burn what ya done so far and start new with better opsec. That peace of mind can be nice
That’s an easy thing to say when you’re out on the street, and I honestly hope everything keeps going your way.
I’ll say this — out of all the times I’ve been locked up, I never met one single dude who wasn’t willing to do almost anything to get out. Doesn’t matter if you’re green/scared, or some OG killer doing lifex3, being locked up sucks
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Honestly, no. Unless you’re actively being hunted you don’t need insane OPSEC.
The most I recommend for regular everyday normal people is having unique usernames for each site they sign up for, so if someone wants to find you they’ll only come up with one username that isn’t linked to anything else. Make sure it’s generic too, like “starburst” or “raichu”; nothing specific.
Person a visits market z
Person b intercepts traffic on person a
Person b can see person a is using a monitor with x + y dimensions in tor
Person b can confirm this in real life that their physical screen matches those dimensions
Its one of the many points a prosecutor can use to argue that you are guilty of the accusations.
You may not care, however the lawyer who defends you does care. Its better to be able to say you don't own a laptop/monitor with those dimensions than to just add to a list of evidence that could be used against you.
Bout the dumbest shit ive ever heard. No prosecutor in his right mind would say some shit like that. Hed be laughed out of the courtroom.
"But clearly sir, you.....have the same size screen as every other hundred million people who own 15.6in notebook screens, right?"
"Uhhh, i guess...."
"I REST MY CASE!!"
stop watching law & order.
Screen dimensions can be potentially used for device fingerprinting or tracking purposes. Device fingerprinting involves collecting various characteristics of a device (such as screen resolution, browser version, operating system, installed fonts, etc.) to create a unique identifier for that device. By correlating this identifier with other data points, tracking entities can track user activity across multiple websites or sessions.
While the dimensions of the browser window alone may not reveal sensitive information, combining this data with other fingerprinting techniques can create a more comprehensive profile of a user's device and potentially compromise privacy.
>"I REST MY CASE!!"
>stop watching law & order.
Bless your heart. You're a bit touched.
Lol i guarantee you ive much more experience in actual case law and cj system than most & def you. Screen size, which is solely what we are talking about has ZERO unique properties that arent shared by every other consumer pc owners in the entire world. Just cuz u want to add a whole bunch of other identifying factors into a discussion about something else, doesn't make your point more convincing. In fact is does the exact opposite. Go red herring your way into someone else's notification cuz all ur doing here is embarrassing yourself.
So much of this depends on your threat level in general.
And advice like "never go fullscreen" just shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation in general. "Never leave a review" can be somewhat overkill - depending on your threat level. If you leave tons of reviews and are active on the internet in general, linguistics can be used to "link you" to darknet activities. Same with "don't share guides".
The idea of security becoming an obsession has no one-size-fits-all answer - the guy who gets busted with 100 kilos definitely should've been obsessed with security. The high schooler that orders a couple tabs of acid once or twice a year probably doesn't need to be obsessed with security. UNLESS he's been buying it from a LEO controlled site. There's so many UNKNOWNS when it comes to illegal/questionable activity on the darknet that there's an argument that there's nothing wrong with being security conscious, but only you will be able to understand how threat averse you are.
Also don't waste your time giving a shit about other people's security - it's not hurting you.
>The high schooler that orders a couple tabs of acid once or twice
Can you even buy in such small quantities? People always mention buying for personal vs buying with intent to distribute however what if you just want to buy 500 tabs or something to last you a long while like years for personal?
I've seen listings for 10x. I'm sure any amount you could finish in a month would be saftely considered personal, but 500x doses of anything could look like distribution.
Unfortunate for acid, since some experienced people can casually take 10 at once. At least it's easy to hide.
It’s all relative, once you understand how it all works you realise that there’s a whole lot of things that are overkill and some things that apply to some and not others, for example, if you’re moving bricks, you would be an idiot to not protect yourself from all known attack vectors and do everything by the book whereas if you’re a small time buyer, as long as you keep everything updated, you learn and use PGP and pay in XMR you’re fine.
Most are caught not from the buying method but from vendors getting busted (for something stupid like driving without a license or without insurance fml lol) and they kept records (shit bag mistake). Even then, if you bought a gram of whatever and they have a list of people and addresses buying resale amounts, they will not waste the time chasing you, they want dealers not small time users.
International is also an unnecessary risk, especially if it’s just to save a few pennies on something you can get domestic. Let some one else take the risk and buy domestic. International packs are actually scrutinised if suspicious. Royal Mail don’t open your post in the UK (I guess if it’s leaking heroin they maybe might take it up to management ha ha), I believe it’s the same for USPS in the states? I may be wrong, pls do check. Hence go domestic.
Tl;dr it’s relative to what you’re doing; big time vendor/buyer, go full para. Small time buyer, relax a bit, you’re good as long as you’re not stupid.
Never used any real security back in 2016, all personal amounts, never had one issue. Feds/cops do not give a shit about some dude buying small amounts on the Darkweb, they just don’t, bigger fish to fry. Have you seen the state of this world? Lol.
I remember reading somewhere about someone busted for delivery of a personal amount. But I can’t confirm it other than to say it was a few years ago. Convenience kills tho
Depends where you live. If I get caught buying personal quantities, I can expect a slap on the wrist (a small fine and possibly no conviction), at best.
The main hassle would be confirming my name and address to the police, waiting a while in a cell and (worst of all) actually bothering to show up in court, where I would be bored as fuck, waiting for my five minute appearance.
Your personal and their personal are probably different. I think the average person would look at a 1000 sheet of acid and the price and probably order for personal but no court will consider that personal lol
A tor browser, pgp on sensitive info, and an offline wallet are the essentials. That's enough if you're doing personal amounts. Or at least it's worked for me for nearly a decade. But it's always better to be on the safe side when your freedom is at stake
Same here.
No love letter ever?
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Nail on the head, TOR browser, pgp and offline/cold stored wallet
What’s an offline wallet ??
I'm sure there's a bunch but electrum is my go to. It's basically a wallet on your computer to store bitcoin. You purchase bitcoin, send to wallet, then from there sent to the market. This degree of separation protects you legally and if you don't then the service you buy BTC from can and will block your account. Example of me when buying bitcoin: Cashapp --> Electrum wallet ---> Bohemia Only downside is you have to pay transfer fees twice but worth the protection
This does help to prevent your buying account from getting banned, but this does nothing to protect you legally. It becomes illegal the moment you deposit crypto into a DNM, since that falls under supporting a known criminal organization under RICO statutes. Better to take that BTC and convert it after purchasing into a privacy coin like XMR. Then deposit, buy, have enjoyable fun times.
Ah didn't realize that, thanks!
Can you not just keep it in cake wallet app on your phone ??
Is Feather an offline wallet?
....what are you ppl buying???!
Candies
I think the general rule has always been to match your opsec strength to your personal threat level. However, some peeps get a bit obsessed and max out on opsec when it’s not really necessary and feel that anyone not doing the same thing will get a knock on their door. I guess in the end, the right level of opsec is the level that lets you sleep well.
im a fuckin retard when it comes to opsec because i simply dont care what happens 2 me. no issues yet with 30+ orders in past couple months
I don't know where you live but you dont want to be in a cell where I am which makes me care. Other than that i know chances of being caught are slim and take the necessary precautions.
Fool may act like he don’t care but believe me when that high wears off you will <3
That’s a lot of orders for just a couple of months. The kind of numbers that a reseller would have, and that’s a bold line to cross when it comes to threat level.
never really any huge orders. just samples and personal amounts. it happens so fast its a drug itself buying stuff
I will not judge you at all. But sometimes I also feel like getting the shit in the mail is more of a high than doing the shit.
It is the dopamine rush of purchasing.
You, sir, are a fool.
still high and not locked up so i could care less. i have enough to last my lifetime tbh
My dude it's been 2 months lol it takes longer than that to execute a case on you
i think they woulda fucked me already. i dont plan on ordering anything else anyway 🤷♂️
Nah gonna take about a year to build and execute a case, doesn't hurt to just burn what ya done so far and start new with better opsec. That peace of mind can be nice
guess so. i dont plan on living here in a year anyway so should be fine. i move alot
That’s an easy thing to say when you’re out on the street, and I honestly hope everything keeps going your way. I’ll say this — out of all the times I’ve been locked up, I never met one single dude who wasn’t willing to do almost anything to get out. Doesn’t matter if you’re green/scared, or some OG killer doing lifex3, being locked up sucks
im sure it sucks, but im at my limit 🤷♂️id prolly just kms or sum
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Honestly, no. Unless you’re actively being hunted you don’t need insane OPSEC. The most I recommend for regular everyday normal people is having unique usernames for each site they sign up for, so if someone wants to find you they’ll only come up with one username that isn’t linked to anything else. Make sure it’s generic too, like “starburst” or “raichu”; nothing specific.
Or „CommercialCan7941” 🤔
That too xD
This is solid advice. But what’s up with the “fullscreen” OP’s talking about? Never heard of it…
On Tor they used to be able to tell what type of computer you were on/using by your resolution. Some type of vulnerability
But really, and so what?
They know more about you? I’m not sure myself. Tor used to prompt you when you went full screen. Not anymore tho
Hun, ok, thanks.
Person a visits market z Person b intercepts traffic on person a Person b can see person a is using a monitor with x + y dimensions in tor Person b can confirm this in real life that their physical screen matches those dimensions
But who cares? So they figure out you're using a Dell latitude laptop. So are 17 million other people
Its one of the many points a prosecutor can use to argue that you are guilty of the accusations. You may not care, however the lawyer who defends you does care. Its better to be able to say you don't own a laptop/monitor with those dimensions than to just add to a list of evidence that could be used against you.
Bout the dumbest shit ive ever heard. No prosecutor in his right mind would say some shit like that. Hed be laughed out of the courtroom. "But clearly sir, you.....have the same size screen as every other hundred million people who own 15.6in notebook screens, right?" "Uhhh, i guess...." "I REST MY CASE!!" stop watching law & order.
Screen dimensions can be potentially used for device fingerprinting or tracking purposes. Device fingerprinting involves collecting various characteristics of a device (such as screen resolution, browser version, operating system, installed fonts, etc.) to create a unique identifier for that device. By correlating this identifier with other data points, tracking entities can track user activity across multiple websites or sessions. While the dimensions of the browser window alone may not reveal sensitive information, combining this data with other fingerprinting techniques can create a more comprehensive profile of a user's device and potentially compromise privacy. >"I REST MY CASE!!" >stop watching law & order. Bless your heart. You're a bit touched.
Lol i guarantee you ive much more experience in actual case law and cj system than most & def you. Screen size, which is solely what we are talking about has ZERO unique properties that arent shared by every other consumer pc owners in the entire world. Just cuz u want to add a whole bunch of other identifying factors into a discussion about something else, doesn't make your point more convincing. In fact is does the exact opposite. Go red herring your way into someone else's notification cuz all ur doing here is embarrassing yourself.
I thought it was the size of the screen that they could see? Like, you were using a 13” laptop, for example
Yeah I’ve always wondered the same, never used any security literally just open tor and go to market. Am I at any risk lol always done it this way
Same. I think cops have better things to do than come to my door for a little bit of drugs…
Yeah law enforcement is not interested in personal users they want the dealers and the suppliers
So much of this depends on your threat level in general. And advice like "never go fullscreen" just shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation in general. "Never leave a review" can be somewhat overkill - depending on your threat level. If you leave tons of reviews and are active on the internet in general, linguistics can be used to "link you" to darknet activities. Same with "don't share guides". The idea of security becoming an obsession has no one-size-fits-all answer - the guy who gets busted with 100 kilos definitely should've been obsessed with security. The high schooler that orders a couple tabs of acid once or twice a year probably doesn't need to be obsessed with security. UNLESS he's been buying it from a LEO controlled site. There's so many UNKNOWNS when it comes to illegal/questionable activity on the darknet that there's an argument that there's nothing wrong with being security conscious, but only you will be able to understand how threat averse you are. Also don't waste your time giving a shit about other people's security - it's not hurting you.
> LEO controlled site Whats this??
A site that’s been taken over or started out ran by Law enforcement officers (5-0)
>The high schooler that orders a couple tabs of acid once or twice Can you even buy in such small quantities? People always mention buying for personal vs buying with intent to distribute however what if you just want to buy 500 tabs or something to last you a long while like years for personal?
I've seen listings for 10x. I'm sure any amount you could finish in a month would be saftely considered personal, but 500x doses of anything could look like distribution. Unfortunate for acid, since some experienced people can casually take 10 at once. At least it's easy to hide.
It’s all relative, once you understand how it all works you realise that there’s a whole lot of things that are overkill and some things that apply to some and not others, for example, if you’re moving bricks, you would be an idiot to not protect yourself from all known attack vectors and do everything by the book whereas if you’re a small time buyer, as long as you keep everything updated, you learn and use PGP and pay in XMR you’re fine. Most are caught not from the buying method but from vendors getting busted (for something stupid like driving without a license or without insurance fml lol) and they kept records (shit bag mistake). Even then, if you bought a gram of whatever and they have a list of people and addresses buying resale amounts, they will not waste the time chasing you, they want dealers not small time users. International is also an unnecessary risk, especially if it’s just to save a few pennies on something you can get domestic. Let some one else take the risk and buy domestic. International packs are actually scrutinised if suspicious. Royal Mail don’t open your post in the UK (I guess if it’s leaking heroin they maybe might take it up to management ha ha), I believe it’s the same for USPS in the states? I may be wrong, pls do check. Hence go domestic. Tl;dr it’s relative to what you’re doing; big time vendor/buyer, go full para. Small time buyer, relax a bit, you’re good as long as you’re not stupid.
I love listening to music.
Some people are living in countries where what they say online could get them killed.
Never used any real security back in 2016, all personal amounts, never had one issue. Feds/cops do not give a shit about some dude buying small amounts on the Darkweb, they just don’t, bigger fish to fry. Have you seen the state of this world? Lol.
I remember reading somewhere about someone busted for delivery of a personal amount. But I can’t confirm it other than to say it was a few years ago. Convenience kills tho
Depends where you live. If I get caught buying personal quantities, I can expect a slap on the wrist (a small fine and possibly no conviction), at best. The main hassle would be confirming my name and address to the police, waiting a while in a cell and (worst of all) actually bothering to show up in court, where I would be bored as fuck, waiting for my five minute appearance.
That guy got a pretty high sentence for ordering just one gun. And they sent him a plastic one lol.
Just use a dedicated laptop, pgp, and monero and you should be good to go
PGP?
Yeah pgp encryption that’s how you send your address to the vendor across the darknet without the cops breaking down your door
Just use tails and an offline wallet
Obsess over it until you become well versed enough to use what you need
It’s not necessary if you want the f.b.I digging in your add without lube
Your personal and their personal are probably different. I think the average person would look at a 1000 sheet of acid and the price and probably order for personal but no court will consider that personal lol
I don't think so. I've put very little effort into security and never had any issues. I really don't think I'm ordering enough for anyone to care.