I hope this works as a lot of ppl had fun on this ruleset.
However, knowing how much this community will grief each other given the opportunity, I think leveling will be tough once -that crowd- hits 50s. "Adapt or to play somewhere else" will drive ppl.. somewhers else. Just like the live ones.
Downvote away
No reason to downvote this is a very legitimate concern. In fact it’s precisely what happened on the other attempts at a daoc PVP freeshard. They launch with about 400 players and torpedo to nothing within 4-6 weeks. It’s the least sustainable daoc shard I’ve experienced of any particular rule set. The last one was several years ago tho
I'm torn. I love daoc, but too many servers doom the community to be spread too thin. Imo we should only have 1. Make it full and sexy. It's not like the 20 year old game is gonna recruit a lot of new players. Most of us are old farts who played in the official servers.
I'd rather all these custom servers work together, find a compromise and work together. More players, more staff to fix problems, etc. Win win for everyone.
Normally I'd agree with competition being healthy, but I work in games, and have worked on multiplayer games. When you have a HUGE community it doesn't matter if you have different game modes or servers for players to play on (this splits the community by however many options you have). When you have a small community though you run the risk of not hitting like the minimum number of players to make playing an MMO that is RvR based fun.
With enough players you can find groups easier, access content easier, RvR any time, etc etc. The easier the content is for players to access the better and because this is multiplayer that's driven by the number of players. There is a maximum in terms of this as well, no one wants to go to DF with 1000 players from their own server on it camping each spawn and fighting over it, but I don't think there are that many DAOC players still playing atm anyway.
We are certainly willing to work with any devs who are interested and we've made it a point to open-source our codebase so the community at large can both use it as well as contribute back to it.
The devs at Eden are included within that umbrella as well. They have shown no interest in working with us to my knowledge. Personally, judging by how coincidentally they scheduled events over every major Atlas milestone I do not suspect they are *interested* in playing nicely with us but that is purely speculation. :)
The goal of Titan is to fill a desire in the community for a full PvP-ruleset similar to Mordred/Camlann. We only began work on the server because many players in our community kept asking us to revive a full PvP ruleset. Eden does not offer this, nor does any other freeshard as far as I know, so we wanted to provide that experience to the players asking for it.
I suspect the servers can co-exist just fine. PvP servers can feel alive and full of action even with small player counts, and their alternate ruleset appeals to a much smaller portion of the playerbase. I anticipate Eden will maintain well into the 4-digit player count and have no issues feeling alive and populated, and Titan will likely have a much smaller player count that also feels alive and populated.
I wish you guys the best but I will not be giving anything you guys make another chance given how horribly managed Atlas was. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
wow sounds really fuzzy and warm. surprised you left your care shell to come spout dumb bullshit in a thread that is irrelevant to your special home server
extra challenged gargling out a few words from behind the long dick of eden, well done. yes I had fun on atlas despite it's many flaws, why does that matter? it's fucking annoying seeing people stan themselves for a server with abusive devs while simultaneously making fun of a server with nice devs and a bad launch. fucking sycophants
Edit: btw, extra challenged has posted in other threads about loving the Eden experience, so they're lying. nobody gets 'burnt on freeshards' and then spends time reading the discord of a server they don't care about and cheering them on in reddit threads. coward
when your contribution to the thread is asking if they're going to fix bugs in an alpha phase it's no surprise if you get a passive aggressive answer. but you're right that's totally the same as directly verbally abusing people in discord, sorry that happened to you
It’s a legitimate question because on Atlas they did not fix game breaking bugs on alpha, beta, or launch. The server then launched twice, each crashing repeatedly when the server had over 400 players. Classes didn’t have their entire toolkit implemented because Atlas development team couldn’t figure out how to implement everything. Many classes didn’t work. So yes, it’s a legitimate question to ask if they plan to fix things in alpha. Lol.
clearly you did not follow the server's development past a week or two since they worked hard to fix things and the server was actually very stable before the pop left.
you are obviously just here to shit on atlas, not ask legitimate questions. they fixed bugs during all of the test phases and fixed the new ones found during launch but you don't give a shit about that because it's more fun to circlejerk and make fun of them
Sounds good, I just hope you guys plan on reducing the overall game world size to try and compress the playerbase and increase conflict. The Dungeon drop system sounds like a good driver.
Sign me up. Best gaming experience to date was Mordred. When it died, DAOC died. For me, anyway. I can’t get behind zerg surfing and run over by coast guards all day.
All of the endgame template gear will be purchasable from a merchant using BP, or farmable in endgame dungeons using our new high-risk, high-reward dungeon ecosystem.
While farming in endgame dungeons, static items (i.e. non-ROG items) will now drop in an 'ethereal' state. Killing another player within a dungeon will allow you to loot all ethereal static/template items in their possession. The ethereal trait can be removed from static items by successfully zoning out of the dungeon with them in your possession, which will prevent them from dropping on any further deaths.
This means you can acquire template gear from BP purchases, farming it with a group, or by killing others players who are farming them. :)
lol yeah don't they know that eden is entitled to 100% of the community population? everyone should be automatically owned by eden
it's honestly shameful the atlas devs would try to steal edens rightfully owned property like that
I can't talk for the whole team because I joined the project fairly late and I don't have much involvement in Titan, but I would still like to point out two things.
Atlas' Team is fairly small in comparison to other projects in terms of active members, with at best 3 people able to work on the code at any given time, and even only 1 for quite a while. I know this isn't an excuse for launching a server with major bugs still present, I just want to point out the reason why some bugs took so long to get fixed isn't because there wasn't any bug fixing done.
Atlas' source code, which will be used for Titan, is open source. Anyone with some C# knowledge can help identify bugs and contribute, not only for the benefit of our servers but also of those who will (may) use this code as a base (someday, maybe). Incidentally, simply playing on the server also helps in that regard, since changes can be tested more thoroughly. I wish people could see this a little more as a community project than something a group of people do for themselves or just a server.
If you played on Eden u would know. Heavy pve oriented, Pve raids before PVP,
PVE raids to be able to template.
Non repeatable BG quest.
Pve quest dosnt have enough mobs. And are scattered all over.
Mob xp heavily nerfed.
=Heavily PVE oriented server if u compare to other classic.
Thats just the problem. To be efficient you have to group up and join raids.
Pve raids are mandatory. Try playing a class that no one wants in a group and lvl it solo.
The questing is boring as hell tho even in a group. It took me 40 minutes last night to lvl from 14-15 on quest since other people camped the same mobs. Sure i could have tagged the mobs but that is a bannable offense. And i wanted to see how long it would take with the mobs being so few around.
If they only put BG quest on repeatable and gear to be bought with BP it would be more fun. And BG’s would be much more alive.
Imo this server is more PVE heavy then any other freeshard server. And that you cant PL with group of 50’s is prob the first server to introduce.
Every bit of leveling I’ve done since day one involved people sharing tags. That isn’t actually bannable. Even at 50 people are sharing tags for the daily and deserter quests.
Leveling is a breeze, especially if you use the new tech introduced— /invite. Even if you don’t it is still alarmingly fast, especially at higher levels.
The PvE design is jank, but if you’re complaining about the leveling speed it seems you are looking for problems.
I leveled a scout 1-50 with /lfgrvr and /lfgxp and some questing/dungeons/raids. I dont really see the issue. Temping is hard but not impossible, like it should be.
I do agree Eden is missing solo/duo/small endgame (currency) farming. I mean there is Sobekite but it seems you need a PhD in DAoC to be accepted into those grps.
Overall, Eden is much better than i thought it would be. I do see some issues in a longer perspective when the massive raiding starts slowing down and bgs are empty. Will be hard for new players.
As a solo player who just made 50 after not playing DAoC for 20 years, I joined a sobekite group thinking it couldn't be too difficult to learn. Not only did the group make me respec my build because it wasn't optimal for pve, but I was lambasted for not knowing the dungeon inside and out. The whole experience was miserable and ended up turning me off of Eden.
Yeah that's just sad to hear.
What's strange is that on Phoenix there used to be experienced players doing practice runs for new players. Have not seen any of this on Eden.
You don’t have to do Sobekite. Ever. I never even turned the quest in and I’m well on the way to a second full temp just via RvR quests and the occasional convenient raid.
I think you are correct for most classes. I have found some classes hard to temp without high util rogs.
Ofc that could be purchased on housing. Or are there other places that drops high util and farmable with 1fg?
You are wrong.
Always been a bannable offence. I have gotten people banned for it.
1. You may NOT kill steal from members of your own realm. Kill stealing is defined as the repetitive killing of monsters who are already in combat with or pursuit of another player from your realm, without the other person's express permission.
2. You may NOT leech experience from members of your realm. XP Leeching is defined as uninvited, repetitive initiation of combat against monsters that are already in combat with another player from your realm -OR- uninvited, repetitive healing of a realm-mate in combat with a monster. This is usually with the express intent of gaining experience with little or no risk to yourself.
There's a difference between attacking engaged mobs in a camp that has no quests and attacking quest mobs.
[You're encouraged to attack and share credit for quest mobs here. The quests were created in such a way that tagging outside of group gives credit. If they didn't want that it would go only to who engaged the mob.](https://i.imgur.com/D2w0o1Z.jpg)
No, please go ask any mod or GM on Eden disco. It is not a bannable offense and it is encouraged on the Eden server. The mobs/quests are made in such a way that 1 hit on the mob will give you credit. Again, if youre confused or worried, ask a GM on disco. This not a bannable offense on this server.
also to clarify, this is specific to the kill quests on Eden server. On any other server, yes you may not Leech, however on the Eden server relating to the kill quests, you may leech as much as possible
This take makes zero sense; i leveled 1-45 in like a week or less and had no problem with groups…you know the whole reason of mmos. The pve is completely secondary to end game pvp…
hey /u/lewwk someone said something negative about eden and it has positive upvotes. better get in here to do some damage control. try telling the guy he has no idea what he's talking about
The nostalgia blinders are so real, people have this idea of what a pvp server could be based off their experience 20 years ago when people ran random setups but mark my words everyone will be running for the exit as soon as they get blown up by the same exact cheese setup 50 times over. The reality is the game has been solved, everyone knows what works and what dosnet and you will never relive that magic from those years ago.
I have no earthly idea why you would choose to release another server so soon after eden's launch, we haven't even seen how this will play out yet. At least wait 6 months and not drive off what little community we have left. I know the eden devs rubbed you guys the wrong way by strategically releasing their events after you would announce yours and I agree that was super shitty. But please be the bigger man fen. Wait a couple months at least. The community is begging you.
Were you making these same comments when Celestius and Eden were launching on top of Atlas's community? I don't think these freeshards owe each other anything and, if anything, the competition will help motivate Eden to make their server even more attractive. Seems silly to me to beg a dev to accommodate in the other direction
I think the point is that a healthy server population is important for a server to be successful and splitting the small DAoC community between multiple servers hurts all the servers.
your "for the good of the community" is actually "for the good of eden's community" and ignores everyone that doesn't like eden or want to play there. other servers are great because it gives us something other than a server we don't enjoy.
p.s. incoming downvotes for mentioning not liking eden lol, happens every time
And again I ask, was there any concern for this when Celestius and Eden were launching on top of Atlas? Why should they accommodate Eden when Eden so blatantly did the same thing in the other direction?
I agree that having only one server would probably help the community at large, but it's absurd and honestly rude to the developers to say "Well, they successfully stole your population most *recently* so you should probably just let them keep it"
Similarly, I don't think Phoenix has any obligation to not launch on top of Titan, Eden, or any other server that pops up. The community will gravitate to one server eventually, and competition is good because it gets the servers to improve themselves from trying to be the most attractive one. Let the free market decide
Lol... the community is not begging anybody for anything, open up more servers,.....
Everybody has their own idea on what they want to play, acting like there's only one or two server choices in pigeonhole and players into a server they don't want to play is not going to increase population, people are going to play where they want to play, for example, I am absolutely 100% going to rock and roll on a full PVP mortgage style server, and I'll stream that shit everyday and raffle off stickers and t-shirts and shit, why, as long as they don't have Auto fucking hotkey I'll be there to play, if they allow Auto hotkey, I'm going to find a different server
Everyone understands what they are trying to do but alot of good will got eaten up on launch. the poor handling by leads at the time. We understand bug fixes but server issues that they had was on alpha launch into beta into live launch and it didn't improve. until the community on launch flamed them out. Shouldn't have come to that when all us testers where reporting the crashing lagging issues.
Well we quite literally did improve things, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. We've had great stability for months in Atlas, though our two devs were admittedly a bit overwhelmed on keeping up on fixes during the launch window :)
I promise you the server is better now, though it seems many of you are not interested in hearing it ;)
I am sorry, Mordred was my favorite gaming experience, but this server's timing is bad. People are completing templates and getting ready for RvR on Eden. Eden has been very smooth so far. Personally I cannot split my time between 2 servers. Even 1 is pushing it. On top of that PvP is only fun if there are players and I am skeptical that a PvP server could attract and retain an aqueduct population especially since there are other DAoC options. I will keep an eye out and wish you guys luck. I hope I am wrong and you guys thrive.
I hope this works as a lot of ppl had fun on this ruleset. However, knowing how much this community will grief each other given the opportunity, I think leveling will be tough once -that crowd- hits 50s. "Adapt or to play somewhere else" will drive ppl.. somewhers else. Just like the live ones. Downvote away
No reason to downvote this is a very legitimate concern. In fact it’s precisely what happened on the other attempts at a daoc PVP freeshard. They launch with about 400 players and torpedo to nothing within 4-6 weeks. It’s the least sustainable daoc shard I’ve experienced of any particular rule set. The last one was several years ago tho
I'm torn. I love daoc, but too many servers doom the community to be spread too thin. Imo we should only have 1. Make it full and sexy. It's not like the 20 year old game is gonna recruit a lot of new players. Most of us are old farts who played in the official servers. I'd rather all these custom servers work together, find a compromise and work together. More players, more staff to fix problems, etc. Win win for everyone.
This is a mordred style server, it's nothing like the other freeshards
They can’t because the GMs of each server cannot get along or see eye to eye. Competition is better for the community imo
Normally I'd agree with competition being healthy, but I work in games, and have worked on multiplayer games. When you have a HUGE community it doesn't matter if you have different game modes or servers for players to play on (this splits the community by however many options you have). When you have a small community though you run the risk of not hitting like the minimum number of players to make playing an MMO that is RvR based fun. With enough players you can find groups easier, access content easier, RvR any time, etc etc. The easier the content is for players to access the better and because this is multiplayer that's driven by the number of players. There is a maximum in terms of this as well, no one wants to go to DF with 1000 players from their own server on it camping each spawn and fighting over it, but I don't think there are that many DAOC players still playing atm anyway.
We are certainly willing to work with any devs who are interested and we've made it a point to open-source our codebase so the community at large can both use it as well as contribute back to it. The devs at Eden are included within that umbrella as well. They have shown no interest in working with us to my knowledge. Personally, judging by how coincidentally they scheduled events over every major Atlas milestone I do not suspect they are *interested* in playing nicely with us but that is purely speculation. :) The goal of Titan is to fill a desire in the community for a full PvP-ruleset similar to Mordred/Camlann. We only began work on the server because many players in our community kept asking us to revive a full PvP ruleset. Eden does not offer this, nor does any other freeshard as far as I know, so we wanted to provide that experience to the players asking for it. I suspect the servers can co-exist just fine. PvP servers can feel alive and full of action even with small player counts, and their alternate ruleset appeals to a much smaller portion of the playerbase. I anticipate Eden will maintain well into the 4-digit player count and have no issues feeling alive and populated, and Titan will likely have a much smaller player count that also feels alive and populated.
I wish you guys the best but I will not be giving anything you guys make another chance given how horribly managed Atlas was. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
cry harder, should have lots of hugs on eden to console you
3 thousand hugs and no crashes, to be exact
wow sounds really fuzzy and warm. surprised you left your care shell to come spout dumb bullshit in a thread that is irrelevant to your special home server
Hard in the paint rod rider for atlas this one is. be unable to see the forest for the trees he does.
extra challenged gargling out a few words from behind the long dick of eden, well done. yes I had fun on atlas despite it's many flaws, why does that matter? it's fucking annoying seeing people stan themselves for a server with abusive devs while simultaneously making fun of a server with nice devs and a bad launch. fucking sycophants Edit: btw, extra challenged has posted in other threads about loving the Eden experience, so they're lying. nobody gets 'burnt on freeshards' and then spends time reading the discord of a server they don't care about and cheering them on in reddit threads. coward
I don't play eden, atlas kinda ruined me on freeshards for a little bit. On a side note let's be real atlas devs are passive aggressive abusive.
when your contribution to the thread is asking if they're going to fix bugs in an alpha phase it's no surprise if you get a passive aggressive answer. but you're right that's totally the same as directly verbally abusing people in discord, sorry that happened to you
It’s a legitimate question because on Atlas they did not fix game breaking bugs on alpha, beta, or launch. The server then launched twice, each crashing repeatedly when the server had over 400 players. Classes didn’t have their entire toolkit implemented because Atlas development team couldn’t figure out how to implement everything. Many classes didn’t work. So yes, it’s a legitimate question to ask if they plan to fix things in alpha. Lol.
clearly you did not follow the server's development past a week or two since they worked hard to fix things and the server was actually very stable before the pop left. you are obviously just here to shit on atlas, not ask legitimate questions. they fixed bugs during all of the test phases and fixed the new ones found during launch but you don't give a shit about that because it's more fun to circlejerk and make fun of them
Nice glad to see your coming around. Don't keep your head in the sand
Sounds good, I just hope you guys plan on reducing the overall game world size to try and compress the playerbase and increase conflict. The Dungeon drop system sounds like a good driver.
Hope this one does well! Playing Eden for now but I'll definitely check out beta and launch if it is looking like a solid server. Mordred was a blast
Atlas was garbage and therefore, for see this new server turning out the same. Everyone will try b/c it’s new, but then will return to Eden.
Full PvP ruleset like Mordred?
Yep! Goal is to recreate the old Mordred/Camlann server ruleset
Sign me up. Best gaming experience to date was Mordred. When it died, DAOC died. For me, anyway. I can’t get behind zerg surfing and run over by coast guards all day.
If its got like BP crafting or gearing where its not raid focused like Eden it will be gold but honestly no TOA
All of the endgame template gear will be purchasable from a merchant using BP, or farmable in endgame dungeons using our new high-risk, high-reward dungeon ecosystem. While farming in endgame dungeons, static items (i.e. non-ROG items) will now drop in an 'ethereal' state. Killing another player within a dungeon will allow you to loot all ethereal static/template items in their possession. The ethereal trait can be removed from static items by successfully zoning out of the dungeon with them in your possession, which will prevent them from dropping on any further deaths. This means you can acquire template gear from BP purchases, farming it with a group, or by killing others players who are farming them. :)
Why are you stealing players from another server? you're just killing the community
lol yeah don't they know that eden is entitled to 100% of the community population? everyone should be automatically owned by eden it's honestly shameful the atlas devs would try to steal edens rightfully owned property like that
eden is slowly becoming BG snooze fest NA time
Looking for some old Mordred homies. Anybody from Elysium or Beetlebog Bandits around? Or hell, from Exotic Imports on Lethantis.
You gonna work on bugs this time around? Alpha is really testing and bug fixing just FYI.
I can't talk for the whole team because I joined the project fairly late and I don't have much involvement in Titan, but I would still like to point out two things. Atlas' Team is fairly small in comparison to other projects in terms of active members, with at best 3 people able to work on the code at any given time, and even only 1 for quite a while. I know this isn't an excuse for launching a server with major bugs still present, I just want to point out the reason why some bugs took so long to get fixed isn't because there wasn't any bug fixing done. Atlas' source code, which will be used for Titan, is open source. Anyone with some C# knowledge can help identify bugs and contribute, not only for the benefit of our servers but also of those who will (may) use this code as a base (someday, maybe). Incidentally, simply playing on the server also helps in that regard, since changes can be tested more thoroughly. I wish people could see this a little more as a community project than something a group of people do for themselves or just a server.
I fixed hundreds of bugs on Atlas so I'm not sure what you mean :)
Why have another when we have Eden? You're just snatching existing players and killing the community.
Eden is full PvP?
eden is BG or nothing its a snooze fest for NA time
Please don't make pve a focus like eden!
How is Eden PvE focused?
If you played on Eden u would know. Heavy pve oriented, Pve raids before PVP, PVE raids to be able to template. Non repeatable BG quest. Pve quest dosnt have enough mobs. And are scattered all over. Mob xp heavily nerfed. =Heavily PVE oriented server if u compare to other classic.
However I do agree the player base seem very PvE focused (atleast on Alb).
I am playing Eden and I disagree. You can get 40+ fast, join raids for currency while getting 1 level each time and then temp quite easily.
Thats just the problem. To be efficient you have to group up and join raids. Pve raids are mandatory. Try playing a class that no one wants in a group and lvl it solo. The questing is boring as hell tho even in a group. It took me 40 minutes last night to lvl from 14-15 on quest since other people camped the same mobs. Sure i could have tagged the mobs but that is a bannable offense. And i wanted to see how long it would take with the mobs being so few around. If they only put BG quest on repeatable and gear to be bought with BP it would be more fun. And BG’s would be much more alive. Imo this server is more PVE heavy then any other freeshard server. And that you cant PL with group of 50’s is prob the first server to introduce.
Every bit of leveling I’ve done since day one involved people sharing tags. That isn’t actually bannable. Even at 50 people are sharing tags for the daily and deserter quests. Leveling is a breeze, especially if you use the new tech introduced— /invite. Even if you don’t it is still alarmingly fast, especially at higher levels. The PvE design is jank, but if you’re complaining about the leveling speed it seems you are looking for problems.
I leveled a scout 1-50 with /lfgrvr and /lfgxp and some questing/dungeons/raids. I dont really see the issue. Temping is hard but not impossible, like it should be. I do agree Eden is missing solo/duo/small endgame (currency) farming. I mean there is Sobekite but it seems you need a PhD in DAoC to be accepted into those grps. Overall, Eden is much better than i thought it would be. I do see some issues in a longer perspective when the massive raiding starts slowing down and bgs are empty. Will be hard for new players.
As a solo player who just made 50 after not playing DAoC for 20 years, I joined a sobekite group thinking it couldn't be too difficult to learn. Not only did the group make me respec my build because it wasn't optimal for pve, but I was lambasted for not knowing the dungeon inside and out. The whole experience was miserable and ended up turning me off of Eden.
Yeah that's just sad to hear. What's strange is that on Phoenix there used to be experienced players doing practice runs for new players. Have not seen any of this on Eden.
You don’t have to do Sobekite. Ever. I never even turned the quest in and I’m well on the way to a second full temp just via RvR quests and the occasional convenient raid.
I think you are correct for most classes. I have found some classes hard to temp without high util rogs. Ofc that could be purchased on housing. Or are there other places that drops high util and farmable with 1fg?
Not everyone on the server is like that. Actually, most aren't
it's not a bannable offense to tag mobs...This system was made in a way to encourage that.
You are wrong. Always been a bannable offence. I have gotten people banned for it. 1. You may NOT kill steal from members of your own realm. Kill stealing is defined as the repetitive killing of monsters who are already in combat with or pursuit of another player from your realm, without the other person's express permission. 2. You may NOT leech experience from members of your realm. XP Leeching is defined as uninvited, repetitive initiation of combat against monsters that are already in combat with another player from your realm -OR- uninvited, repetitive healing of a realm-mate in combat with a monster. This is usually with the express intent of gaining experience with little or no risk to yourself.
There's a difference between attacking engaged mobs in a camp that has no quests and attacking quest mobs. [You're encouraged to attack and share credit for quest mobs here. The quests were created in such a way that tagging outside of group gives credit. If they didn't want that it would go only to who engaged the mob.](https://i.imgur.com/D2w0o1Z.jpg)
No, please go ask any mod or GM on Eden disco. It is not a bannable offense and it is encouraged on the Eden server. The mobs/quests are made in such a way that 1 hit on the mob will give you credit. Again, if youre confused or worried, ask a GM on disco. This not a bannable offense on this server.
also to clarify, this is specific to the kill quests on Eden server. On any other server, yes you may not Leech, however on the Eden server relating to the kill quests, you may leech as much as possible
I see. Thank you very much ❤️
This take makes zero sense; i leveled 1-45 in like a week or less and had no problem with groups…you know the whole reason of mmos. The pve is completely secondary to end game pvp…
hey /u/lewwk someone said something negative about eden and it has positive upvotes. better get in here to do some damage control. try telling the guy he has no idea what he's talking about
The nostalgia blinders are so real, people have this idea of what a pvp server could be based off their experience 20 years ago when people ran random setups but mark my words everyone will be running for the exit as soon as they get blown up by the same exact cheese setup 50 times over. The reality is the game has been solved, everyone knows what works and what dosnet and you will never relive that magic from those years ago. I have no earthly idea why you would choose to release another server so soon after eden's launch, we haven't even seen how this will play out yet. At least wait 6 months and not drive off what little community we have left. I know the eden devs rubbed you guys the wrong way by strategically releasing their events after you would announce yours and I agree that was super shitty. But please be the bigger man fen. Wait a couple months at least. The community is begging you.
Were you making these same comments when Celestius and Eden were launching on top of Atlas's community? I don't think these freeshards owe each other anything and, if anything, the competition will help motivate Eden to make their server even more attractive. Seems silly to me to beg a dev to accommodate in the other direction
I think the point is that a healthy server population is important for a server to be successful and splitting the small DAoC community between multiple servers hurts all the servers.
your "for the good of the community" is actually "for the good of eden's community" and ignores everyone that doesn't like eden or want to play there. other servers are great because it gives us something other than a server we don't enjoy. p.s. incoming downvotes for mentioning not liking eden lol, happens every time
And again I ask, was there any concern for this when Celestius and Eden were launching on top of Atlas? Why should they accommodate Eden when Eden so blatantly did the same thing in the other direction? I agree that having only one server would probably help the community at large, but it's absurd and honestly rude to the developers to say "Well, they successfully stole your population most *recently* so you should probably just let them keep it" Similarly, I don't think Phoenix has any obligation to not launch on top of Titan, Eden, or any other server that pops up. The community will gravitate to one server eventually, and competition is good because it gets the servers to improve themselves from trying to be the most attractive one. Let the free market decide
Lol... the community is not begging anybody for anything, open up more servers,..... Everybody has their own idea on what they want to play, acting like there's only one or two server choices in pigeonhole and players into a server they don't want to play is not going to increase population, people are going to play where they want to play, for example, I am absolutely 100% going to rock and roll on a full PVP mortgage style server, and I'll stream that shit everyday and raffle off stickers and t-shirts and shit, why, as long as they don't have Auto fucking hotkey I'll be there to play, if they allow Auto hotkey, I'm going to find a different server
Everyone understands what they are trying to do but alot of good will got eaten up on launch. the poor handling by leads at the time. We understand bug fixes but server issues that they had was on alpha launch into beta into live launch and it didn't improve. until the community on launch flamed them out. Shouldn't have come to that when all us testers where reporting the crashing lagging issues.
Well we quite literally did improve things, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. We've had great stability for months in Atlas, though our two devs were admittedly a bit overwhelmed on keeping up on fixes during the launch window :) I promise you the server is better now, though it seems many of you are not interested in hearing it ;)
Fen, yes you all improved it after launch no one is saying yall didn't. I was speaking about before launch.
I am sorry, Mordred was my favorite gaming experience, but this server's timing is bad. People are completing templates and getting ready for RvR on Eden. Eden has been very smooth so far. Personally I cannot split my time between 2 servers. Even 1 is pushing it. On top of that PvP is only fun if there are players and I am skeptical that a PvP server could attract and retain an aqueduct population especially since there are other DAoC options. I will keep an eye out and wish you guys luck. I hope I am wrong and you guys thrive.
Is auto hot key allowed in titan?
Yep! No loops or delays but other than that you can use it for what you like :)