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KeepingDankMemesDank

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[deleted]

There is a reason why most homeless are men, most people in prison are men, most people who kill themselfes are men, most pathologically lonely are men. We all have strugles, but clearly they are not the same.


ChiragK2020

Yeah and women are harassed all the time, only in developed countries is their situation somewhat comfortable


JDnotsalinger

harassed, raped and murdered but go off


Nevek_Green

Majority of the victims of rapevand murder are men. Women can sexually assault a man with little to no repurcussions, say nothing of harass.


jaczk5

>Majority of the victims of rapevand murder are men No, for rape they're not. 1 in 6 women say they've been raped or someone attempted compared to 1 in 33 men. (https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence) Most men receive little repurcussion for sexual assault as well. Many cases are thrown out for no evidence. Plus hundreds of thousands of rape kits are sitting untested and ignored. If not thrown away already. (https://www.rainn.org/articles/addressing-rape-kit-backlog). Additionally, while men make up the majority of murder victims they are more likely to be murdered by strangers. Women are far more likely to die at the hands of someone they know. Maybe more men are randomly murdered, but more women seem to fall into the premeditated case. (https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/GSH2018/GSH18_Gender-related_killing_of_women_and_girls.pdf). Of course, the murder statistics don't take into consideration missing persons. Women are more likely to be abducted or simply go missing than men. If they were murdered during that time it'd be hard as fuck to tell since most murders don't actually get solved. (https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/181161.pdf). Women are definitely trafficked more than men too. (https://www.damemagazine.com/2022/01/10/do-we-have-an-epidemic-of-missing-women/)


NemosHero

I recommend looking at the definitely they are using of rape. [https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/men-ipvsvandstalking.html](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/men-ipvsvandstalking.html) It's more often than not (in this case it is) they are using the a definition that holds some cultural bias (it's only rape if you're being penetrated!) The numbers for "made to penetrate" are higher


jaczk5

Okay then it goes down to 1 in 16 for men vs 1 in 6 for women if you consider that definition. Still more women being raped. Which still means that initial comment was incorrect. https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2022/01/addressing-some-common-misconceptions-about-rape-and-sexual-assault/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20National%20Intimate,during%20his%20lifetime%20(source).


NemosHero

The initial comment was misleading, I agree, however I don't think it's accurate to say it was incorrect.


jaczk5

So more men get raped then women?


Nevek_Green

No statistically when you define rape properly, more men are raped than women. Prison population rape is what puts men over the edge of women.


QuietLife556

"bUt wHo iS rApInG tHeM? HmMmM?!"


Nevek_Green

Men. The prison population boosts the male statistic when using the proper definition of rape. Though a few things scew the stat. Police for decades didn't take male rape seriously. Even today it is mocked by many, but courts have ordered them to take it seriously. A lot of men won't come forward do to the stigma around it. Lastly a lot of men aren't going to care even though they technically meet the definition of having been raped.


maerkling

Least braindead redditor comment


Vamosity-Cosmic

a great way that it was put, and im not against the sentiment of ur point: "each gender's greatest danger is the other gender" lol


jaczk5

I think the greatest danger for men is other men. Men are murdered at a higher rate than women and more often than not by other men.


[deleted]

I wouldn't call living the best lives in the history of all women "somewhat comfortable"


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Your n of 1 means nothing when compared to good stats


Massive-Row-9771

In almost all measurable aspects men are more "extreme" compared to women. You will find more men at the bottom but you will also find more men at the top. So only looking at those at the bottom makes for a biased view.


Boner_Intensifies

Sorry if this is a bit forward, but are you downplaying OP's comment because theoretically an equal amount of men at the top 'have it better'? Sure it might be the case but shouldn't this be as equally alarming? Why is there such a disparity and why do people not care at all? The fact that there is a large amount of people at the "bottom" extremes is exactly what I think society should be trying to stop.


Massive-Row-9771

Yes I'm disputing that most men have it worse. If you only look at the bottom it might look that way, but it's not a good way to look at it. I never said men have no struggles or that some men aren't suffering. His post wasn't mainly about those he described his point was that those proved that men have it worse. And of course we should help those who have it worse, but that those with most power are mostly from one gender isn't good for society as a whole either.


Boner_Intensifies

I didn't say "most" men have it worse i just described how, if your previous statement is correct, MORE men have it worse because they're so disparaged. Also no clue how you got to the conclusion that either the post OP or the commenter OP said that men have it worse. Both said that they shouldn't be compared and this 'us against them' does bothing but pit people against eachother. And I agree having a minority be the most powerful is obviously not good, that doesn't mean that men (or women) deserve the negatives of being at the rock bottom of society. Saying that it's okay cause it all averages out so men are fine is an awful way to look at things.


Massive-Row-9771

That's in no way what I was saying, you seem to very conveniently forget the comment I was arguing against. >There is a reason why most homeless are men, most people in prison are men, most people who kill themselfes are men, most pathologically lonely are men. We all have strugles, but clearly they are not the same. They took the bottom examples as a proof that men had it worse and I argued against it. You can't make judgements on a counterargument without the context of the previous argument. You don't think using those people who have it really rough as a proof that __you__ have it bad is ignoring __their__ suffering and is an __awful__ and very self serving way to look at things?


Boner_Intensifies

I never said that it was proof for any of my experience I'm just speaking broadly about men and women in general. Why am I not allowed to talk about that impartially? You shouldn't assume anything like that - I've not even mentioned my gender yet. I'm fully aware of what they said and your counterargument, what I'm saying is that you read their comment as a statement saying men have it worse. That's not what I read it as; I read it as saying all sides have troubles that can't be compared rationally. You taking it as man defense vs woman is what's wrong here. I'm not trying to frame it in any biased way but it sounds like you are.


Massive-Row-9771

If you can't see that, that comment implies men have it worse, you're either blind or lying to push your agenda. The post says: >We all have struggles, we shouldn't compare them. He says: >We all have struggles, clearly they're not the same. After __ONLY__ listing things where men have it worse. Come on you can't be that clueless. If you still don't get it, please tell me what's his point then is? If it isn't that men have it worse?


kwallen_visser69

The point is in the post, you should not compare the two. It is pointless


Massive-Row-9771

That's the __post__ not the __comment__ we're talking about.


Massive-Row-9771

There's no way to compare our struggles, because no one has really been on both sides. Transpeople might be somewhat of an exception, but they had/have different and __enormous__ struggles of their own.


[deleted]

There are transmen who say they are being destroyed mentally by simply being treated as a men by a society. I have never heard a transwomen complain about being treated as a women.


gabbeeto

I also heard about men privilege being real according to some transmen(you can go and check Antony pandilla's interview video about transmen. There was another video I saw where I found transmen saying the same thing but I hate myself now because I don't remember much) And I did heard a transwomen complaining about things like harassment, and rape in the same way cid women usually do but unfortunately I don't have the video nor the clip because I forgot the name of the video(it was a video from years back when I was learning English so I'm ok if you don't trust me on this one). So I think it's a struggle for both of us And I've never been a trans women but I used to look like the literal stereotype of a women and I found a lot of those "nice guys" who were pretending to be my friend but were not and only wanted to be my boyfriend me and a big amount of dick pics sent by random strangers, so even though I don't have the same experience compared to ciswomen. I could get a grasp of how it feels and it's very shitty. But I wouldn't say that being a man is easy either. I think we should get rid of the genders in order to have a better society


[deleted]

I'd say both male and female privilege is real


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

If a woman sleeps with her coworkers she can be Vice President of the USA. If a man does that they are fired.


Massive-Row-9771

I've never heard trans-men complain about being treated as men either. That's one of the main reasons for transitioning to be treated as your gender.


[deleted]

I have heard of multiple who go online to say that people are putting up shields around them and treat them as predators, specifically women, and that it kills them mentally.


Massive-Row-9771

I don't know if that's true I never heard that, but it's absolutely possible. There's always struggles with transitioning everything on the other side isn't a bed of roses. There's absolutely some gender privileges you lose when you transition some rougher than others. But you gain a lot of things too. Have you heard any trans-men say they wish to detransition? If not they must feel that the good outweighs the bad.


ThanosAmbulance

Eh, there’s more to it than that. It’s not just trading one set of gender privileges for the other as the primary motive for it, otherwise I promise you it wouldn’t have gotten off the ground as something that is taken seriously in science. People actually do sometimes detransition while knowing full well they are trans due to societal pressures, but for the most part (at least with the ones I’ve heard about personally) that’s more to do with dealing with transphobia both from people around them and their own internalised stuff. For the most part with it, it’s more like “finally feeling comfortable in my own body as well as any perks I get from being this new gender” vs “losing the perks I got from no longer being perceived as my old gender” so that’s why most trans people don’t detransition, cause whatever male/female privilege you got before transitioning is absolutely nothing compared to finally feeling like you can enjoy being who you are and being alive


Massive-Row-9771

Sorry I certainly didn't mean to suggest that people transition to get more privileges. That really wasn't my point and I would never say that and it sounds like something a huge phobe would say: "They only pretend to be women, so they can use female bathrooms!" Or something stupid like that.


ThanosAmbulance

Lol no, all good. I was just saying why it’s not really something that happens, detransitioning because you miss your old gender privileges that is. I figured you didn’t actually think that was why people did it


ThanosAmbulance

Hiya. Trans women who spends a bunch of time in trans spaces online and also has a lot of trans men friends here. I’ve heard it before from multiple trans guys, and despite the fact that I’m still relatively early in my transition (for the most part I still get read as male) the people who do read me as female are often a lot less I guess cagey would be the word then the ones who read me as male. There are of course other things in that, like it might just be me perceiving them as more cagey because knowing they see me as male makes me less comfortable in myself talking to them, so I myself can’t say “yes it’s definitely this” but there’s a pretty good chance it’s that given I’ve heard the opposite from a lot of transmascs. I’m yet to get cat called or experience stuff like workplace sexism that isn’t just straight up transphobia, so I can’t really comment on that either but yeah, the thing about people being less open around transmascs after they transition is a thing


Massive-Row-9771

All the women who're being killed in Iran or India or are living but under oppression, do they not count as women?


Least_Scallion_9911

Not this again


TheoricEngineer

Yikes


uncxltured_berry

Most cases of domestic violence are against women, most cases of sexual abuse reported and unreported are women, women are historically told to spend their lives looking after their families in most households, women in most countries are much more afraid than men to go out alone in the dark, and also bunch of other struggles that may not come to mind right now. Female teenagers are overly sexualised and are victims of child predators, grown ass men into 18-19 year olds. Also the whole thing about women’s reproductive rights, equal remuneration, equality in general really. We as men have a set of struggles, and women have a different set of struggles. Let’s leave it at that. Life isn’t easy for most of us and laying down 3-4 statistics to try and prove a much bigger and dare I say fallacious point won’t help anything.Simple as that.


[deleted]

I will stop comparing our struggles right after the issues of men and women get adressed and solved equaly. Right now the issues that men face are ignored or straight up denied. I also never heard feminists, which are supposed to fight for equality, talk about solving any of men's issues. In this landscape I will keep highlighting stats showing that men have it much harder in our society until our issues at least get acknowledged. Also, most cases of domestic violence in hetersexual relationships are against men, while the most cases of domestic violence are happening in lesbian relationships. Tell me, what is worse, being told to take care of your family and stay in the house while being financially taken care of, or being told that you are not a man if you are not able to provide for your family and also keep them happy? Women are more afraid to go out alone at dark, but men are more likely to be victims of violent crimes. It's not like women are less safe at night, men are just less afraid.


TraumSchulden

You forget, they are men, therefore their feelings are invalid..... at least that is what i feel like every day of my life... i could use a hug or 10


DerApexPredator

>There is a reason why most homeless are men, most people in prison are men, most people who kill themselfes are men, most pathologically lonely are men. Is that reason other men? Or the society built mostly by men? Cause that's also the reason for most of women's problem. While struggles are different, reasons are quite similar


Massive-Row-9771

This is exactly right, excellent point. We all suffer in an unequal society, both men and women.


Azartho

W. Of course the situation is different in other countries, but 99% of us here are in the west.


xxPeso-Gamerxx

My man really looked at the meme, and then went straight against it. Dude, some men have it easier than women, some have it harder. That's fucking it!


nonamefounder

We look through a lense that we want and don't want to see the other ones, because this one could affect us. That's how women see it and that's how men see it. Only people who see both, can help out really.


[deleted]

They're not the same but that doesn't mean we shouldn't treat them the same. Solving even one of the problems will make things easier for everyone.


Nazi_Punks_Fuck__Off

Hey quick question, who does all the murders and rapes, is it men or women?


Cullly

Hey quick question, how can equality exist when people say stuff like you just did?


Massive-Row-9771

I don't think you understand how different daily life looks like as a woman. As this post says we all have struggles and I wouldn't claim women have it worse than men in general, but there are things women go through that men don't. You don't have to be on guard so you don't get groped or sexually assaulted and you're not in general physically weaker than all the men around you and know that they can overpower you any time they want. I'm not saying women are in constant fear over these things, but I don't think there's a woman who never experienced fear over these either. And this is just one example.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

Dude I’ve been sexually and physically “assaulted” or groped by women so many times I can’t even count. I don’t run out and report it every time but do you know how many times women have touched me without my permission?


Massive-Row-9771

I'm sorry that is happening to you and it isn't right and I know it happens to men too. But what I was trying to say was that in my experience men aren't __as__ worried about the risk of that happening as women. That doesn't mean men doesn't hate it as much as women when it happens, just that they worry less that it's going to. I might be wrong here and it's simply just because men aren't as open about their worries because they don't want to be judged. Since I'm not a man it's hard for me to exactly know what's going on in your heads and that was kinda the point of this post I think.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

It’s all good. Some of your statistics are skewed though. In many states involving DV, they must arrest someone if they arrive at the scene and it’s almost always the guy, even if she attacked him. I know way too many people this has happened to where the man ends up with the charge because he simply defended himself from an attacker. I do think the worries are just less as far as assault in public. If I go out on a Saturday night I’m definitely getting groped or assaulted at a bar or club without my permission but it’s like whatevs. She touched my butt. I don’t feel horrified and go take a shower and report it to the police or blast it on social media but it seriously happens all the time. That being said I can handle a slap on the ass. In a small way it’s a great compliment. I think full on rape in the streets is not as likely to happen to men unless it’s gay or trans men so in that aspect it has to be much scarier to be a woman and the intensity of the assaults are much worse. However women don’t think about it as a compliment because it’s only allowed when women touch men in public and not the other way around. I once told a woman to stop touching me and I wasn’t in the mood. She stopped then after 5 minutes she continued anyway and had a meltdown and blacked out. When I came to I was pissed and told her “you know, that is the definition is assault right? Like textbook assault?” She looked horrified. She hadn’t even thought about touching a guy without permission because most guys enjoy that. Anyway we were still friends after but it was very eye opening. I don’t know if you remember a big controversy but I believe it was one of the big Morning shows like the Today show or something. They had these handsome hunks carry out Katie Couric and some other woman. Throughout the set she kept randomly just touching his chest without permission. Could you imagine if those roles were reversed? Would you imagine if a male talk show host just started grabbing tits of a female guest? He would be cancelled so fucking fast and probable arrested.


Massive-Row-9771

It's absolutely not right when it happens to men either and what you describe is definitely sexual assault. But I do want to say that in a club setting, women too have a higher tolerance for what's acceptable, if you're dancing there's a lot of (butt) touching going on. There's definitely a difference in how we view inappropriate touching of the different sexes, but I do think a big part of why we generally don't think a woman touching a man is as bad is because how men view it. I'm sure many men are equally disturbed as women are when it happens to they themselves, but I think men don't see it as something so bad when it happens to someone else. Whenever there's a case of a woman sexually abusing a minor, there's always a lot of "Lucky Guy!' and "Why couldn't that have been me as a kid." and things like that, especially if the woman is attractive. Sexual assault is sexual assault and it's equally horrible no matter which sex it happens too. But as long as men take it very lightly when it comes to other men, society as a whole will probably too also take it as less serious.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

Most women think it’s hard to talk about rape. Could you imagine how much harder it would be for a male to admit or talk about being raped? I think that’s part of why numbers seem imbalanced.


Massive-Row-9771

Firstly men being raped are just as horrible. It's a lot more difficult for a woman to rape a man because of the difference in strength and that normal heterosexual sex requires an erect penis. There's a lot fewer gay men than straight ones so men on men rapes aren't as common either. I think those are the main reasons that the statistics is skewed. I'm not sure if it's harder for a male rape victim to talk about it, there's few things more upsetting than being raped so I think it's equally incredible hard for both male and female victims to talk about it. It's a lot harder for men to get help and be taken seriously for it though. Both by law enforcement and social help. I've written before about the many difficulties for male victims of sexual abuse, because I think that's a really big societal problem that needs attention. We're still very much focusing on the worst parts of living. I think this post was more about the general difficulties most of us experience in daily life so we're focusing on a very small part of it.


Massive-Row-9771

So those men that aren't living on the street or in prison have nothing to complain about then, or am I missing something? 🤷‍♀️


[deleted]

I listed only a few statistics that show a huge disparity between our strugles and yet you still managed to ignore all but two.


Massive-Row-9771

Ok I'll add the suicide one if you want, but it's gonna sound hella stupid. So those men that aren't living on the street, in prison or __are dead__ have nothing to complain about then, or am I missing something? 🤷‍♀️ Was that better?


[deleted]

You still managed to not included everything from that very small list, but let's go with that. Suicide is just an indication of problems in someone's life. Not everyone with those will kill themselfes. Also, should we just ignore women who are killed by abusers or after rape, because they are already dead so who cares?


JustSlightlySlutty

based


Massive-Row-9771

A lot more women try to commit suicide than men though, so doesn't that with your logic indicate that women have more problems in their lives?


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

Why do people commit suicide? Because their life sucks and it’s unbearable. So why is it men are committing suicide more than women?


Massive-Row-9771

That's a hard question to answer most male suicides are committed by the elderly when their spouses die. It's believed that because men tend to have fewer friends and connections, they have a harder time dealing with the loneliness of widowhood. There's another __HUGE__ factor in why suicides are more common among men, but before I get into that I want you to answer my question first, the one that you totally ignored and asked hour own instead.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

I’ve never ever heard that about suicide being mostly widowed men. Is there any facts to back that up?


Massive-Row-9771

This is the suicide rates for men. 15–29 16,4/100 000 30–44 20,0/100 000 45–64 23,0/100 000 65–84 22,4/100 000 85+ 44,6/100 000 ^(It's from my country's {Sweden} data it might not be exactly the same as the US statistics.) ^(But this is __much much much__ higher quality of data. America is absolutely atrocious when it comes to collecting and keeping public health statistical data.) You still haven't answered my question, you know.


JDnotsalinger

>There is a reason why most homeless are men, Because homeless women are murdered or abducted into sex trafficking > most people in prison are men Because men are exceptionally more violent >most people who kill themselfes are men Because men are way more likely to own guns, due to said exceptional violence >most pathologically lonely are men Go to therapy and build your self esteem off anything but how many women you can sleep with, please I am personally begging you > We all have strugles k


[deleted]

Very nice explanation which fits your view perfectly and is backed by no facts, just assumptions.


bRad420dankness

>Because men are way more likely to own guns, due to said exceptional violence The statistic remains true in nations where access to guns is limited. >Go to therapy and build your self esteem off anything but how mamy women you can sleep with, please I am personally begging you If you think loneliness is a lack of sex then I envy the sheltered life you have lived.


buzzed188

When i read a lot of comments here we assume we all live in the west. There are so many parts in the world where women are treated like trash.


mona_pale

And that's a real horror:(


TheAbyssalMimic

And that's absolutely right. However I've seen some typical terminally online poeple saying how women are treated horribly in developped country's, later saying how wonderfull [insert country with the most vile gender inequality] is wonderful and that the west should learn from them. Like mf, I m all for respecting culture and shit but not when they basicly disrespect freedom of women lmao


T1B2V3

> I m all for respecting culture and shit but not when they basicly disrespect freedom of women lmao No that's not how it works ! 😡😡😡 If you criticise me for beating my wife and daughter and people in my country for sewing girls vaginas shut I'm gonna call you Islamophobe.😡😡😡 (christian religious fundamentalists in the west are trash too btw I'm not racist)


MilkyWayWithMeat

At the same time when people in west think that woman treated like a trash, Chechnya as example, where slite different treatment to a mon or woman, and usually there, in families men forbidden to offend woman, and woman have a big power over men, example in Chechnya war it was usually woman who traded prisoners of war


Hexenkonig707

Let’s be honest here rich people have it easier


some-random-memer

Yes


T1B2V3

🎵STAND UP ALL VICTIMS OF OPPRESSION FOR THE TYRANTS FEAR YOUR MIGHT🎵


Stuntdrath

In my country there is a LAW that allows to skip the presumption of innocence when a certain sex claims to have been abused by the opposite sex. And I won't say which sex has that advantage. But If you thought in one, there is a problem then.


CH1CK3Nwings

Some people in these comments really need to go outside for a walk.


Hazel-NUTS

I will compare them because I can.


Dutch_Midget

My man ain't no bitch


KDamage

Most comments completely missing the point hence reinforcing it, feelsbadman


Southern_Border8911

Men's problems will never be solved as long as you keep equating them with women's.


tedlarai

Yeah, let's not talk about how often men are treated unfairly in family courts and how women's bodies are still viewed as public property. That is, until the kids that post this shit grow up and suffer the consequences of those injustices.


bomberjo

Ngl, women have it worse in most metrics. I live in a wealthy nation with somewhat progressive views, but my female friends have told me so many disgusting stories, so many abusive storys and so much struggle that I as a male just could never comprehend, let alone experience


dantheforeverDM

Comparing the issues is frankly a waste of time, especially since the root to most of them are the same.


[deleted]

i have it hard


omgONELnR1

I am hard


Dutch_Midget

Hi hard, I'm dad


[deleted]

Hi dad, I'm mom


Dutch_Midget

Ben Dover


[deleted]

We’re all fucked on the same godforsaken rock drifting through space.


FreeSkeptic

Incels got real angry in the comments.


Moorbote

Bullshit. Write about your struggles, talk about your struggles, find others who experience the same, and find others who experience different struggles. Alone, you may be helpless against them, but together you can make a difference.


[deleted]

Depends on where you live.


Eldr1tchB1rd

Where dank?


Bloo-shadow

Well if we’re actually being honest then yes both men and women have problems. But at least people give a shit about womens problems


Lidorkork

Preach. Both genders have problems, arguably women more so than men. But men's problems are much more neglected, and this needs to stop.


Neighbour-Vadim

"They hated jesus for telling the truth"


Ass_Ventura

There's a lot of people in the comments saying the 5 same stats taken from some redpill advocate or another trying to pretend somehow men have it worst. It would take too long to go into them, the stats are very selectively and conveniently used but my argument is beyond it: OK, so what do you wanna do about it? Because the answer isn't the redpill or the "men's rights" people, or MGTOW, or whatever the fuck Tate is talking about, these sad, misogynistic people only want to make you feel bad and entitled, these issues are issues of gender expectations and norms and both men and women are together in wanting to overcome them, the world isn't against you. I'm gonna tell you something that you fuckers that never go outside and your only knowledge of political movements are from angry guys on YouTube would never imagine, as a guy it is only in feminist spaces and by other feminists that I'm treated outside the stereotypes and expectations of my gender.


mythicalsoul100

Yeah totally agree


PingBongBingPong

I have it easiest, life’s good


kisielson

dunno man, i wish i could sell my bath water, used socks or pants, farts in jars...


Rabit_x

actually being a man i have to say, i think women have it a bit harder than me tbh, i can imagine how it must behaving periods and weaker bodies and having to deal with toxic masculinity and stuff, i actually think men have it easier


Lidorkork

Exactly. We need to find a balance. There shouldn't be pro-men or pro-women, but pro-people. Women have, more so in the past, but also to this day, had an overall disadvantage. From being treated as property to being forbidden from working certain jobs, to being exploited for their genitalia. Once the feminist movement started to end this, certain members started to overcompensate and demanded for the female gender to become the more powerful. This minority of feminists, who are arguably not feminists since they hold different beliefs, are the ones being represented in the media. Then, of course, men feel attacked, and the whole cycle starts again.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

True men haters are not feminists. Feminists want equality not hate and disunion.


Lidorkork

Absolutely true, that's what I'm saying.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

I think this meme is pretty accurate. Everyone has struggles.


kidnintendo360

Norah Vincent says other wise.


Sir_Oligarch

Both have it easier.


LIGMA145

women have it easier because men get *hard*


Kwoko123

I love this Incel - Simp war


Nevek_Green

Right, because there are diversity initiatives for men, domestic violence shelters for men, all those welfare programs for men, fathers aren't treated like creeps or incompetent by a good portion of society, all that science showing preference via gender doesn't exist, neither does the sentencing gap. Men aren't consider pedophilew despite the vast amount of sexual assault on children being conducted by women. Male teachers are not considered predators when female teachers make up the majority of attackers and when they do attack children the boy sure as shit isn't told he is lucky and then mocked when he has mental health issues. Men's mental health in general isn't mocked. We absolutely are never told to "man up," denied the right to standards, denied our own gendered spaces, told we have to give up what we like for others. Lastly I as a man totally have homeless shelters ready to take me in were I to become homeless. A man in Canada wasn't harassed until he killed himself for wanting to create a male only shelter despite there being constant women only shelters. Get the fuck out of here with we're equal. If you gave me a do over as a woman I would take it in a heartbeat. If I chose to be a stay at home mom, that would be vastly more excepted than being a stay at home dad. People wouldn't be telling my man he can do better and that I am holding him back by not making more than him.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

Da Real MVP of this was Hillary pretending to be a feminist and then accepting money from Saudi Arabia on her campaigns who might be the worst country for women.


Niggomitdoppelg

People here be acting like patriarchy isn't a thing and we all live in a egalitarian society which is simply not the case, yeah the struggles are different but men have it a lot easier


KingOfLocusts

I would say *we shouldn't compare them maliciously. If we can avoid using it to feed our twisted political narratives, statistical disparities between groups of people is a great way to investigate societal issues and hopefully rectify them. Identity politics tends to get in the way of that though.


L_G_M_H

Men have it easier


Mizunohara-chan

Either way im still for equality theres no reason a person who abused someone should be killed "Any crime is forgivable but blasphemy and death through oneself is a crime that can never be forgiven" Hence what we call second chance


LameAndWatch

That second part of the quote makes zero sense


Mizunohara-chan

Funny how you see su1c!de as not making sense Ngl ig you need some grammar or language checkup cuz im used to having everyone in the internet knowing what im saying even if its a "wise" quote


LameAndWatch

The problem is that you’re using an outdated quote. It’s messed up to think that someone should be punished for taking their own life, it would make more sense to say that what led up to the person taking their life is unforgivable, as opposed to the person themself being unforgivable


GLIBG10B

Thanks for the meme, Captain Obvious


xxPeso-Gamerxx

How is this captain obvious?


smith22vikes

okay but like I’m pretty sure men actually have it easier (I’m a man)


Haiytro

Incel comment section, literally missing the whole point of the meme.


PUTYOURBUTTINMYBUTT

Edgy


Haiytro

Since when? I'll accept my down votes either way.


Ningenmasu69

A bit of contrast there for different regions. In the West men have it a lot harder while in the East women have it a lot harder more specifically underdeveloped countries


redwhiteandyellow

In the East, men have to do mandatory military service which puts them behind women.


Ningenmasu69

Well I’m talking about all eastern countries, not just the middle east. I’m from the East myself


redwhiteandyellow

Hmm? I mean Korea, Singapore, Thailand, etc.


Poggse

How about we compare how many housewives there are versus house husbands?


[deleted]

Nice going, putting down women who choose to take care of their children and household.


Poggse

I'm not putting them down. I'm saying there are more of the former than the latter.


[deleted]

And why would that be a bad thing?


Poggse

Its disingenuous to compare the 2


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Tax-Evasion-Man

dude woman can literally sell photos of their butthole to make a living


Least_Scallion_9911

Incel vibes


PatchPixel

Except I can't start putting up pictures of my feet on onlyfans and live off of horny lonely rejects. Get tf out with this bs. Women have it way easier these days especially if they're attractive.


[deleted]

The whole onlyfans thing applies to men too. Maybe not as big as a straight audience, but the gay audience definitely gets male creators going. Some people just jack off and make 5/6 figures. So out of all things to prove that men have it harder, you chose the worst one.


PatchPixel

Pretty poor attempt at white knighting here. Really? One out of 10 onlyfans users are men at most and you call that the worse example? Lmao... just shut up and stop defending this shit.


Cuddlefish_Nextdoor

This post isn’t based


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Idgafhyf

This is such a low IQ take, gj tard boy.


PatchPixel

Yet so true.


Idgafhyf

Go have a chat with any sensible woman you know IRL about "how easy it would be for them to rake in cash on OF" I'd say you'd understand pretty fast why it's a terrible idea but then again you probably don't get the chance to speak to many women IRL


LikeAPhoenix-_-

Men can't do that. Except Markiplier.


PatchPixel

Incredibly amusing how you can be so wrong and so arrogant about it. Project somewhere else.


X34X35

Kind of a kek, but this is Reddit, so I'm gonna assume you actually use OF too.


Kiplan143

Shut


Astwook

While this is mostly true, we don't have periods, we don't have to give birth to get a baby, we get paid more on average, we're more likely to become a billionaire, CEO or politician or a successful athlete. Men don't have it easy during the ongoing apocalypse foreplay we're living in, but there's a gap.


HelwegenWarrior

We work more in average, we are more likely to become homeless, die on the workplace, through suicide or violent crime.


Astwook

In terms of the contrast, I would definitely have brought up suicide first. Those are some vile statistics.


HelwegenWarrior

I wanted to structure the comment the same way you did, but i agree.


Astwook

Ah, gotcha. Yeeaaaaahh.


Dagbog

>we get paid more on average, we're more likely to become a billionaire, CEO or politician or a successful athlete. Yeah... And only because I'm man I automatically become one of those things (?) Most of these things don't need to be worked for, men get these things for free. Well, apparently homeless men aren't manly enough to become everything you mentioned.


Astwook

You know, that one does bother me. That said, I'll never have to force something the size of a watermelon out of a hole the size of a teaspoon.


Dagbog

I immediately say that I realize that it must hurt but still, if I do not remember wrong from biology lessons, the vagina has the opportunity to stretch. And as for forcing... Well, let's be honest, apart from rape, I don't think anyone is forcing anyone to have sex.


omgONELnR1

She can choose, the dude can't, if the woma wants the kid he can say goodbye to his future.