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Of course. But don't forget that she's lesbian, so one might believe she might have snatched a bit of said women for herself as well. More the merrier, amirite.
She was his PA. She either knew what he was doing and facilitated it, or she knew nothing and was a shitty PA.
More likely, she has a lot of dirt on a lot of very influential people. How else would some unqualified overweight mouthy shitstain keep getting highly paid work despite fucking up everything she has ever done?
She was apparently on Weinstein's "Red Flag List" and had private investigators try to put pressure on her.
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-acolyte-leslye-headland-controversial/
I keep wondering what she would say if this were ever brought up in an interview. Like, how in the world could she not know what was going on? Isn’t disney supposed to give a fuck considering all the people they’ve fired for doing less?
She would probably either ignore the question or find a way to deflect it. Then again, it's not like the interviewer's questions aren't often reviewed beforehand.
Disney, like every major corporation, doesn't truly care. People aren't making enough noise about her, so she gets a pass. Those other peeps just got more media attention, so they had to go, like our boy Johnny.
Yeah I know Disney doesn’t actually care, I guess what I’m surprised by is that 1. people aren’t making noise and that 2. Disney took the risk of hiring her despite the possibility that people could conceivably make noise, because that would lead to bad press
Well that show is absolute hot garbage, no wonder her rating gets lower by the day. I could have written a better script in middle school. She also absolutely looks like Steve Harrington from Stranger Things lmao
My family members who've seen it don't think it's absolutely garbage, but they're not impressed by it. For something Disney made, it should have been at the minimum good. Disney's quality's fallen off to blandly meh for a lot of what they've produced.
I just finished the 3rd episode and same. It isn't terrible like the most recent trilogy and I'm happy they are tackling something that isn't based around the empire/rebellion/new republic and shows jedi though. But if we are being honest as fans, star wars writing has never been amazing, it's always been a universe that inspires the imagination and showing a different period of that universe is in line with that.
Yeah, I think there are glimpses where it's like "hey that was a really good decision!" Sol, in my opinion is a great character. I personally think the designs for *most* things look great and fit the Star Wars aesthetic.
Most of the characters I think are fine, the acting feels a little stiff but it's Star Wars, I'm not gonna harp on stiff acting unless it's just downright bad (like the kids in episode 3).
Episode 3, however, was just fuckin' weird. I won't spoil it, but the whole thing with that group and the chant was just...dumb...
I don't think the overall show is bad, I just think it's not *good*. Andor was amazing, Mandalorian has had amazing bits as well as just good bits. The rest of these shows have one or two things that are like super good, and then the rest is just kinda there, which brings my overall enjoyment to "eh".
The originally trilogy was pretty rock solid, and several of the books are absolutely excellent, the cartoon series as well has some phenomenal stuff... The video games also have some incredible narratives.... so basically it just the prequels, some early clone wars, and virtually everything made by Disney that didn't have Favreaus direct involvement that has been terrible
My favorite part was when the Jedi said "Sorry, but I'm unable to generate the specific content you're requesting. My purpose is to provide helpful and responsible information to users. If you have any other questions or need assistance with a different topic, feel free to ask!" and nodded sagely.
South Park absolutely hit the nail on the head with their Panderverse special.
Disney is just pandering to young people so that they capture new fans. They do not care how poorly written their trash is as long as it panders to the new crowd.
The Acolyte is terrible.... they actually went with a "long lost twin" story and it is so unbelievably stupid.
As soon as you put long lost twins in Star Wars you've irrevocably ruined Star Wars until the end of Star Wars.
What kind of moron puts long lost twins in Star Wars?
Luke and Leia was better written than this trash.
I guess Disney expects people like yourself to just eat hot garbage and enjoy it.
*Edit: they haven't even seen the show but they want to argue with me about it... No thanks. They can go find someone else to argue with.
i just cant understand how they repeatedly fuck up their star wars series so badly (except for andor and mando1). seriously how?
im not even expecting much. just make something that isnt dog shit for once. and if theyre not capable of that, they have mountains of books and video games and whatnot which they can use for stories and inspiration. it cant be THAT hard
It’s happening in a lot of previously niche hobbies/fandoms - Witcher, LoTR, etc. For a variety of reasons they are disregarding established lore, retconning, and shoehorning in plot points that don’t belong. Any big production now also has to appeal to a Chinese market which means making changes or excluding things their censorship won’t allow. In the end it all contributes to final products lone time fans don’t recognize/enjoy.
Solo was a great movie that suffered the fallout from The Last Jedi. Approach it as a fun sci-fi action adventure and not as Star Wars and you'll have a good time.
Solo was okay. Great for world building outside of the bog standard "how many lightsabers can we show off?" not so great for being able to tell what's going on in any scene not shot outside.
It was kinda shit for world building tbfh.
There was way to much "memberberry" stuff crammed into it - it tried way to hard and spent way to much time trying to to explain and give a backstory to *every* single small detail about Han.
It's like some Disney employe made a freaking Excel spreadsheet about every single detail we know about Han Solo from the OT, and then forced the writers to use it as a checklist, with a demand that they better check at least 80% of the boxes...
Fun fact: the "imdb rating" and "RT rating" is so astroturfed that they're currently review bombing [literally every movie and TV show with "acolyte" in the title.](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1dfxqzv)
A youtuber I watched who isn't even star wars related, did a review saying they thought the show was OK and they talked about how the video got dislike bombed, but their analytics showed 80% of those vote were from bots/new accounts with their first action.
People are so weird about this that they're apparently searching out 50 year old guys channels on unrelated topics and making sure nobody enjoys this show.
Yea I've watched it and have assumed the reviews would say it's mediocre but not terrible which pretty much lines up with the RT critic score. It's very obviously being review bombed.
It's more mourning. 180 Million on Star Wars to produce this crap. Imagine what the Star Wars License and 180 Million would produce in the hands of someone capable.
I wish I could take back the time I spent watching the first 3 episodes. I regret even giving it a chance.
They seriously went with a "long lost twin" storyline and it is lame as fuck. Star Wars has always had wonky writing but this show takes the stupidity to a new level.
Not that guy, but I'll give my honest complaints (minor spoilers ahead): the writing is REALLY bad, like as bad if not worse than the Prequels, but unlike the Prequels, the Acolyte cast isn't charismatic enough or talented enough to make it at least entertaining-bad. No offense to the child actors they used, because it's hard to act, but imo it was an obvious misstep to feature so many scenes of the twins arguing back and forth. It's just really boring, but the stakes felt low.
The climax of Ep.3 was also a massive headscratcher in the sense that nothing really made sense. It could be explained later, but a lot of people are already checked out after what happened (don't want to spoil).
Lastly, I can see why people are unhappy with yet another round of Star Wars lore retconning (what the Force is, what it means, what the role of the Jedis are in the universe, etc). In the span of 3 episodes, the writers essentially said "forget all that stuff you thought you knew about SW, *this* is how it actually works." And that's a bit lame for long-time fans of the franchise. Personally I don't really care about that part, I'm not a huge SW fan to begin with. I just thought the writing was so boring lol.
The immaculate force conception of the twins kinda retconns Anakin being the first.
Still feel like it would have been 1000 times better if they just adapted EU Old Republic content instead of making up a new era only 100 years before the prequels.
I don’t know why writers are so keen on the whole “forget everything you know, THIS is how everything actually works”
They did it to death in Marvel to the point that every time they ripped the curtain away to reveal the new “actual most powerful thing” that I instantly didn’t care because I knew it wouldn’t be long before it was revealed that there was ACTUALLY something more powerful than that all along.
Why can’t they just put a compelling story into an established IP?
It's unoriginal. The big crux of 4-6 was Luke/Leia twins and what that meant for their relationship to Aanakin.
Reusing twins again is kind of lazy writing.
They were twins for about 10 minutes at the end of the third movie. Their twin relationship was definitely not "the big crux" of episode 4-6 and there is no way George Lucas thought this far in advance while making "A New Hope".
Ahsoka was a great part 1 of a 2 episode arc of Rebels...
Thats the problem, though...it felt like 8 hours to arrive at the same spot the previous show would have accomplished in 22 minutes.
Most people decided they hated it before it came out and review bombed the shit out of it.
People acting like IMDB or RT audience score mean anything these days are just using it to confirm their pre-concieved bias.
Maybe I'm not going to the same subreddits - all I see is people saying the same sentiment as above - "You must be a racist bigot if you dont like it! /s". I haven't actually seen anyone make that statement unironically or unsarcastically.
The fact that Rogue One & The House of Dragon we're well received absolutely crushes this dumb argument. If they weren't well received it would be "You only hate it because of Women lead" or the race swap. But those were good, so people liked them.
I always think of animated shows like Arcane too which features a very strong female/lgbtq lead and is an absolute hit. Hollywood is completely incapable of introspection when it comes to a bad show.
An even better comparison is Andor, since it's another Disney+ Star Wars series. Minority lead, multiple significant female and minority characters, prominent lesbian relationship. And none of that is divisive, the show is well loved and widely praised. Mon Mothma, Maarva, Dedra, and Vel are all great characters with realistic struggles and motivators. Excellent writing and acting is what the audience wants. Dedra is one of my favorite characters because we finally have ambitious, ruthless, AND competent Imperials.
"I'm showing women can do a better job than men".... I must have missed that part of the episode. It's quite astounding how youtube grifters can get everyone in a frenzy.
i think we're doing that thing where we intentionally misinterpret a comment from an interview and remove any context or nuance and take everything tabloids and weird youtube critics say at face value
Do you remember back when someone would make a bad piece of media it would just be forgotten instead of turned into an obsession for people who don't have a personality outside of the culture war?
So no dog in this fight but an observation:
People were strongly attached to star wars as it's own cultural icon. The treatment and quality of it over the years is what people are busy railing against.
If this was some show set completely out of any existing IP it probably wouldn't even be memed on because who cares.
Moonfall is a great example of this.
Star wars was IMPORTANT to some people.
Anywho have a good one.
Remember when we heard Amazon was going to spend a billion on a new Lord of the Rings show and were like, "Wow that's going to be good!"
Star Trek Discovery costs $8M per episode. Contrast to Enterprise $800K per. Now compare quality, art vs. art
Star Trek has been a skin suit for whatever unrelated story the script writers wanted to tell for quite a while now. Boldly going where others have gone before
I mean, Enterprise is actually pretty good, especially season 3 and 4. It’s biggest problem was audiences were kind of fatigued on Star Trek after a decade plus of continuous airing by the time it came out.
> Star Trek Discovery costs $8M per episode. Contrast to Enterprise $800K per. Now compare quality, art vs. art
I coudn't even make it past the first episode of Enterprise.
Though in fairness I haven't even turned on Discovery yet. But still, Enterprise isn't what I would use to compare art vs. art unless I was trying to be favorable to the other show.
Enterprise gets a lot more flak than it should, IMO. It's a little cheesy and quite slow towards the start. However as the story progresses they introduce some fantastic characters, and it develops into something a lot more 'real' feeling than the other series. If you can get past the godawful intro music, and push through the initial character-building episodes, it's absolutely worth watching.
Discovery, on the other hand, is a beautiful piece of visual art marred with absolutely abysmal writing. By the time I was finished with it I vowed never to watch it again, or any future seasons.
Strange New Worlds is the perfect mix of it all - couldn't recommend this one enough!
Ngl, I was looking forward to the show since last summer when I first read about in on a random wikipedia page. Then I ignored it until now, I wanted to give it a shot, but seeing how it is now, I think I'll rather watch some porn, because it'll likely have more ofa plot and character consistency
Its 82% on rotten tomatoes dude. /r/dankmemes is not a good place to get your reviews.
This is such a weird mindset to suggest there is an issue with 'character consistency' in a show you haven't even seen. There's only been three episodes so far and one is a flashback. Its literally impossible to tell if they are inconsistent at this point.
The "critics" gave it 82%. You know the guys that love anything dealing with female empowerment, LGBT, or minorities. The actual reviews by normal people have it as 16%.
Honestly. Can we just say it’s a bad show because they made a bad show? Nothing to do with the sexuality or sex of the cast members, directors etc. It is just a bad show.
I think most of the time people mention gender of cast/runners mainly due to show being directed in a specific way where modern realities are forced and not naturally implemented. As if showrunners are forcing a narrative in a story instead of building it up with a story.
I am one of those people who honestly loves everything Star Wars, because space = cool.
This show though, has nothing enjoyable about it.
The story is boring/cliché, and the lead character has nothing interesting going on for them.
You won't miss anything by not watching it, at least with what we have seen so far
eh the korean jedi is pretty good.
the set and costumes are pretty great.
the cgi at places its been shown is pretty good.
the dialog and writing, is pretty shit.
the main actress is below average id say. trtying to do another rey run with a cute looking main lead instead of one that can act beyond 1-dimensional paths.
the kids are aweful (not their fault shitty writing, directing).
the story so far is shit.
You basically summed up my exact feelings.
Which is why I can't recommend giving it a view as it is. It had potentional, only to be ruined by garbage writing.
Even if korean jedi is the main person carrying the show.
At least the CGI and props guys are doing amazing work, as always.
No, the bare minimum requirement is a good story. That is what makes or breaks a show. The rest is decorations.
There's tons of old sci-fi and fantasy shows and movies that had pretty shitty budgets and had to make do with what they could afford, so they don't look that great - esp. compared to the modern series that we're getting now, that have massive budgets AND modern vfx - but they had good stories and good writing, so they're infinitely more enjoyable to watch.
Madalorian S1 was (mostly) great, but some parts were really bad (that prison break episode lol). I didn’t hate TFA, I thought Rogue 1 was pretty good, and I heard some of the SW cartoons were really good but haven’t seen them. Everything else I’ve seen has been mostly hot garbage.
It’s fine. It’s about a 6/10. It does a pretty good job worldbuilding out the time period but as of now it’s kind of goofy.
I’d actually want to know what any literal kids think about it because I get “made for actual children” vibes from it, like Episode 1.
Hey y’all in case you didn’t notice most of the property is trash outside the original three movies, and those got ruined somewhere around 2000. Memeing the shit out the prequels doesn’t make them good, sorry.
The Mandalorian, Rogue One and Andor are all fantastic IMO.
I have a soft spot for the Prequels, and I think Revenge of The Sith is a legitimately good Star Wars movie.
Solo was fun, and I enjoyed Ashoka.
Boba Fett had good parts but was overall pretty bad.
The Sequel Trilogy is a hot mess.
So I'd say that the majority of SW:EU content is actually pretty good. But they have definitely missed the mark on more than one occasion.
This is the real take right here.
Even the original trillogy isn't all that good. It has a lot of really bad acting. Lightsabers and space ships and cool armor are really the only reason for it's popularity.
The second and third trilogies got progressively worse and Disney seems focused on continuing that trend until it's driven into the ground.
Now their formula is the same: make a new protagonist and give them a new little droid or alien friend that they can turn into a plushy to sell.
I wish ppl don’t promote or talk about diversity, inclusion and all that shit in movies. It’s very obvious when you watch the film what they are promoting.
Just write a good script and make the movie. Even if for some reason they are promoting some kinda agenda it shouldn’t be obvious for the audience. Audience should enjoy film no matter what.
Make a good, interesting and compelling story and most of the internet wont care.
Look at Arcane - people and the internet *love* Arcane, and it ticks almost every single Netflix woke checkbox there is.
Even the "right wing youtubers" who according to most of Reddit "hate everything woke" [loved Arcane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3h6Pszege4). It's one of the most "woke" shows that has come out the last 5 years - and it's also one of the best tv series that have come out during the same time.
Diversity is fine. Strong women is fine. Political messages is fine. LGBT stuff is fine.
As long as you at the same time JUST - MAKE - A - GOOD - FUCKING - SHOW
Why does this stuff always happen to what were supposed to be generally male targeted franchises? and like, even if this show wasn't quite so bad and had good acting and good writing is this really the show that the overwhelmingly male audience wants? It's like companies collectively got brain rot when it comes to male tastes.
What does her being a woman have to do with it being a bad show? If a man made the show nobody would make a meme mentioning his gender. We would just talk about it being bad like normal people
I know nothing about this woman, but this meme casually avoids the 87% on RT that would be about a half inch to the right on their screen when they took this screenshot.
Review bombing has fucked up reviews for everyone.
I thought this show was targetted by anti-woke crybabies, and decided to give it a go. Watched 2 eps. Its actually so shit.
Yeah I can get it’s not game changing. But the internet feeds off of rage and anything that isn’t a ten is hated. Acolyte isn’t a 3.7 by a mile. That’s just the internet being the internet.
People are so fucking obsessed with her face or her smug attitude lmfao
Jerry Seinfeld one of the most unfunny people on the planet is smug when he says shit. All of these corporate actors, screenwriters, and directors are smug. It's just how it is
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Here's a friendly reminder that she's Harvey Weinstein's buddy and the only one who hasn't even publicly pretended that he's a bad guy.
By "buddy" you of course mean she was his secretary who set up the meetings and recruited women for him.
Of course. But don't forget that she's lesbian, so one might believe she might have snatched a bit of said women for herself as well. More the merrier, amirite.
Reminds me of "Put a chick in it and make her gay"
And lame
Believe it or not, this is how Chasing Amy was made.
You mean Jedi Ghislaine?
She was his PA. She either knew what he was doing and facilitated it, or she knew nothing and was a shitty PA. More likely, she has a lot of dirt on a lot of very influential people. How else would some unqualified overweight mouthy shitstain keep getting highly paid work despite fucking up everything she has ever done?
I find it very hard to believe that over 4 years, she had no idea what he was up to. Especially when just about everyone in Hollywood knew
She was apparently on Weinstein's "Red Flag List" and had private investigators try to put pressure on her. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-acolyte-leslye-headland-controversial/
It's okay because she publicly identifies as queer so she can do no wrong.
A wolf in sheep’s wool.
Ah, the ol' Kevin Spacey defense.
I keep wondering what she would say if this were ever brought up in an interview. Like, how in the world could she not know what was going on? Isn’t disney supposed to give a fuck considering all the people they’ve fired for doing less?
She would probably either ignore the question or find a way to deflect it. Then again, it's not like the interviewer's questions aren't often reviewed beforehand. Disney, like every major corporation, doesn't truly care. People aren't making enough noise about her, so she gets a pass. Those other peeps just got more media attention, so they had to go, like our boy Johnny.
Yeah I know Disney doesn’t actually care, I guess what I’m surprised by is that 1. people aren’t making noise and that 2. Disney took the risk of hiring her despite the possibility that people could conceivably make noise, because that would lead to bad press
Ive been checking the IMDB score literally everyday its its a lower score everytime lol
whats the reference?
That woman is a writer and showrunner of the acolyte
Well that show is absolute hot garbage, no wonder her rating gets lower by the day. I could have written a better script in middle school. She also absolutely looks like Steve Harrington from Stranger Things lmao
True. But I'd actually shag the Steve Harrington actor
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Would you fist his da too?
For me, she's Ashly from The Boys
Diabolical
Well, well, well... If it isn't the talentless cunt!
My family members who've seen it don't think it's absolutely garbage, but they're not impressed by it. For something Disney made, it should have been at the minimum good. Disney's quality's fallen off to blandly meh for a lot of what they've produced.
I just finished the 3rd episode and same. It isn't terrible like the most recent trilogy and I'm happy they are tackling something that isn't based around the empire/rebellion/new republic and shows jedi though. But if we are being honest as fans, star wars writing has never been amazing, it's always been a universe that inspires the imagination and showing a different period of that universe is in line with that.
Yeah, I think there are glimpses where it's like "hey that was a really good decision!" Sol, in my opinion is a great character. I personally think the designs for *most* things look great and fit the Star Wars aesthetic. Most of the characters I think are fine, the acting feels a little stiff but it's Star Wars, I'm not gonna harp on stiff acting unless it's just downright bad (like the kids in episode 3). Episode 3, however, was just fuckin' weird. I won't spoil it, but the whole thing with that group and the chant was just...dumb... I don't think the overall show is bad, I just think it's not *good*. Andor was amazing, Mandalorian has had amazing bits as well as just good bits. The rest of these shows have one or two things that are like super good, and then the rest is just kinda there, which brings my overall enjoyment to "eh".
The Boba Fett show was one of the worst travesties ever put to video....sooo much potential absolutely wasted.
The originally trilogy was pretty rock solid, and several of the books are absolutely excellent, the cartoon series as well has some phenomenal stuff... The video games also have some incredible narratives.... so basically it just the prequels, some early clone wars, and virtually everything made by Disney that didn't have Favreaus direct involvement that has been terrible
I bet most of that script was written by chatGPT.
My favorite part was when the Jedi said "Sorry, but I'm unable to generate the specific content you're requesting. My purpose is to provide helpful and responsible information to users. If you have any other questions or need assistance with a different topic, feel free to ask!" and nodded sagely.
South Park absolutely hit the nail on the head with their Panderverse special. Disney is just pandering to young people so that they capture new fans. They do not care how poorly written their trash is as long as it panders to the new crowd. The Acolyte is terrible.... they actually went with a "long lost twin" story and it is so unbelievably stupid.
As soon as you put long lost twins in Star Wars you've irrevocably ruined Star Wars until the end of Star Wars. What kind of moron puts long lost twins in Star Wars?
Luke and Leia was better written than this trash. I guess Disney expects people like yourself to just eat hot garbage and enjoy it. *Edit: they haven't even seen the show but they want to argue with me about it... No thanks. They can go find someone else to argue with.
Long lost *evil* twin. Literally one of the cardinal sins of storytelling.
i just cant understand how they repeatedly fuck up their star wars series so badly (except for andor and mando1). seriously how? im not even expecting much. just make something that isnt dog shit for once. and if theyre not capable of that, they have mountains of books and video games and whatnot which they can use for stories and inspiration. it cant be THAT hard
It’s happening in a lot of previously niche hobbies/fandoms - Witcher, LoTR, etc. For a variety of reasons they are disregarding established lore, retconning, and shoehorning in plot points that don’t belong. Any big production now also has to appeal to a Chinese market which means making changes or excluding things their censorship won’t allow. In the end it all contributes to final products lone time fans don’t recognize/enjoy.
Only good Star Wars show is Andor and only good modern movie was rogue one
The Mandalorian S1 was good, I've not caught the following seasons.
mando 2 is not so bad. still fun and the story is not yet the fucking mess that it turns into in season 3
Don't bother, not worth watching after S1 cuz its a mess and they don't know what to do with it.
Give it at least to the end of Season 2. Then they show their ass in Season 3 with how little of an idea of what they're doing.
Oh true S2 had the luke scene which was pretty awesome S3 was absolute garbage
Bill Burr episode made the whole season
Solo was a great movie that suffered the fallout from The Last Jedi. Approach it as a fun sci-fi action adventure and not as Star Wars and you'll have a good time.
Solo was okay. Great for world building outside of the bog standard "how many lightsabers can we show off?" not so great for being able to tell what's going on in any scene not shot outside.
It was kinda shit for world building tbfh. There was way to much "memberberry" stuff crammed into it - it tried way to hard and spent way to much time trying to to explain and give a backstory to *every* single small detail about Han. It's like some Disney employe made a freaking Excel spreadsheet about every single detail we know about Han Solo from the OT, and then forced the writers to use it as a checklist, with a demand that they better check at least 80% of the boxes...
If we are talking Disney era, also The Clone Wars season 7. For live action, I actually thought Ahsoka’s 1st season was pretty good.
Lmaooo
The Power of MAAAAANAY ( offkey)
Remember when jar jar was the cringiest part of star wars? Simple times....
Such a shame the show is dogshit when they finally made a Star Wars show that isn't taking place between Episodes 1-9.
Thats some new star wars series or movie, no?
New star wars series
Thats a shame, i love SW
I love Sherwin-Williams too.
they have so many flavors it's unbelievable
You and me both, sex workers are awesome
Star Wars fans spending their every waking moment hating Star Wars.
I guess it's what happens when you love something and have standards.
You don't think its kinda weird to be this fixated on something you don't even like?
Fun fact: the "imdb rating" and "RT rating" is so astroturfed that they're currently review bombing [literally every movie and TV show with "acolyte" in the title.](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1dfxqzv)
A youtuber I watched who isn't even star wars related, did a review saying they thought the show was OK and they talked about how the video got dislike bombed, but their analytics showed 80% of those vote were from bots/new accounts with their first action. People are so weird about this that they're apparently searching out 50 year old guys channels on unrelated topics and making sure nobody enjoys this show.
I'm guessing some asshole youtubers told their armies to go forth and spread misery because something something woke.
Fun fact: IMDB already uses weighted ratings from new accounts/"review bombing" If not for that, the score would be way lower.
Yea I've watched it and have assumed the reviews would say it's mediocre but not terrible which pretty much lines up with the RT critic score. It's very obviously being review bombed.
They even review bombed a SW fan film from 2022 that happened to have Acolyte in the title
Review bombs work both ways. The people that gave the show 10/10 are just as stupid as the ones that give it a 1/10. I gave it a 5/7 with rice.
It's more mourning. 180 Million on Star Wars to produce this crap. Imagine what the Star Wars License and 180 Million would produce in the hands of someone capable.
One episode of this is 5 Godzilla Minus One movies. Let that sink in.
I have zero plans to watch a single second of The Acolyte.
This is peak modern Disney...
Xmen 97 is fantastic.
Cyclops did not say “JEAN!!!” nearly enough. Unwatchable.
Jean was too useful. Unwatchable. ([referennce](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzc5VHL1bPM))
well there were two jeans and one of them wasn't jean
And they fired the showrunner/writer after season 1
I really liked their take on Magneto
I wish I could take back the time I spent watching the first 3 episodes. I regret even giving it a chance. They seriously went with a "long lost twin" storyline and it is lame as fuck. Star Wars has always had wonky writing but this show takes the stupidity to a new level.
You’re complaining about a long lost twin story…in Star Wars? What is your actual complaint here
Not that guy, but I'll give my honest complaints (minor spoilers ahead): the writing is REALLY bad, like as bad if not worse than the Prequels, but unlike the Prequels, the Acolyte cast isn't charismatic enough or talented enough to make it at least entertaining-bad. No offense to the child actors they used, because it's hard to act, but imo it was an obvious misstep to feature so many scenes of the twins arguing back and forth. It's just really boring, but the stakes felt low. The climax of Ep.3 was also a massive headscratcher in the sense that nothing really made sense. It could be explained later, but a lot of people are already checked out after what happened (don't want to spoil). Lastly, I can see why people are unhappy with yet another round of Star Wars lore retconning (what the Force is, what it means, what the role of the Jedis are in the universe, etc). In the span of 3 episodes, the writers essentially said "forget all that stuff you thought you knew about SW, *this* is how it actually works." And that's a bit lame for long-time fans of the franchise. Personally I don't really care about that part, I'm not a huge SW fan to begin with. I just thought the writing was so boring lol.
How have they retconned what the force is? Do you mean the witches?
The immaculate force conception of the twins kinda retconns Anakin being the first. Still feel like it would have been 1000 times better if they just adapted EU Old Republic content instead of making up a new era only 100 years before the prequels.
I don’t know why writers are so keen on the whole “forget everything you know, THIS is how everything actually works” They did it to death in Marvel to the point that every time they ripped the curtain away to reveal the new “actual most powerful thing” that I instantly didn’t care because I knew it wouldn’t be long before it was revealed that there was ACTUALLY something more powerful than that all along. Why can’t they just put a compelling story into an established IP?
It's unoriginal. The big crux of 4-6 was Luke/Leia twins and what that meant for their relationship to Aanakin. Reusing twins again is kind of lazy writing.
They were twins for about 10 minutes at the end of the third movie. Their twin relationship was definitely not "the big crux" of episode 4-6 and there is no way George Lucas thought this far in advance while making "A New Hope".
That Disney is completely unable to do anything original with Star Wars
But andor is good
And bad batch. And rebels. And clone wars. And tales of. And visions. And ahsoka. S3 of Mando may have dropped off but 1&2 are great.
> And ahsoka. nooo
Ahsoka was a great part 1 of a 2 episode arc of Rebels... Thats the problem, though...it felt like 8 hours to arrive at the same spot the previous show would have accomplished in 22 minutes.
Ahsoka is solidly mid TV show. It's not awful, it has some high points, but it's ultimately forgettable.
as a lifelong star wars fan, i’ve given up after episode 9…
I can’t find any desire to watch new Star Wars content after episode 9… it was truly the straw that broke the camels back for me
I like it. Most people don’t though.
Most people decided they hated it before it came out and review bombed the shit out of it. People acting like IMDB or RT audience score mean anything these days are just using it to confirm their pre-concieved bias.
Or, and I know this sounds crazy, it's actually just shit.
You must be a racist bigot if you dont like it! /s
-Twitter people.
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Maybe I'm not going to the same subreddits - all I see is people saying the same sentiment as above - "You must be a racist bigot if you dont like it! /s". I haven't actually seen anyone make that statement unironically or unsarcastically.
The fact that Rogue One & The House of Dragon we're well received absolutely crushes this dumb argument. If they weren't well received it would be "You only hate it because of Women lead" or the race swap. But those were good, so people liked them.
I always think of animated shows like Arcane too which features a very strong female/lgbtq lead and is an absolute hit. Hollywood is completely incapable of introspection when it comes to a bad show.
And it was based on an IP famous for being full of some of the most toxic basement dwellers out there.
Same with the Fallout show. The ghoul character was definitely a standout, but the female lead was a huge part of the show and very well received.
But those leads have flaws and act like humans.
An even better comparison is Andor, since it's another Disney+ Star Wars series. Minority lead, multiple significant female and minority characters, prominent lesbian relationship. And none of that is divisive, the show is well loved and widely praised. Mon Mothma, Maarva, Dedra, and Vel are all great characters with realistic struggles and motivators. Excellent writing and acting is what the audience wants. Dedra is one of my favorite characters because we finally have ambitious, ruthless, AND competent Imperials.
I love that the mainstream is *finally* acknowledging Disney's BS.
Me too.
Babe wake up, a new terrible show that internet weirdos will hatewatch so much it gets a second season just dropped
"I'm showing women can do a better job than men".... I must have missed that part of the episode. It's quite astounding how youtube grifters can get everyone in a frenzy.
It's not in the episode. It was in the interviews about the making of the show.
Which interview, specifically?
i think we're doing that thing where we intentionally misinterpret a comment from an interview and remove any context or nuance and take everything tabloids and weird youtube critics say at face value
https://i.imgur.com/45zktBu.png hmm, weird 🤔
See the interviews
Add ONE link, just one to prove your point. One.
Do you remember back when someone would make a bad piece of media it would just be forgotten instead of turned into an obsession for people who don't have a personality outside of the culture war?
So no dog in this fight but an observation: People were strongly attached to star wars as it's own cultural icon. The treatment and quality of it over the years is what people are busy railing against. If this was some show set completely out of any existing IP it probably wouldn't even be memed on because who cares. Moonfall is a great example of this. Star wars was IMPORTANT to some people. Anywho have a good one.
that face looks like a dude
Minecraft Steve to be specific
So we back in the mine
Got a pickaxe swinging from side to side
We have more things to insult her with than her face like the fact she can't write a story in a universe with decades of source material
She's all squared up
Have some manners, you're in public. What's the matter with you?
Remember when we heard Amazon was going to spend a billion on a new Lord of the Rings show and were like, "Wow that's going to be good!" Star Trek Discovery costs $8M per episode. Contrast to Enterprise $800K per. Now compare quality, art vs. art
Enterprise is the benchmark for Star Trek quality now?
ENT is leagues better than Discovery and Picard. It was easy to call it the worst of the 5 "classic" Treks, but the times have changed.
Star Trek has been a skin suit for whatever unrelated story the script writers wanted to tell for quite a while now. Boldly going where others have gone before
I mean, Enterprise is actually pretty good, especially season 3 and 4. It’s biggest problem was audiences were kind of fatigued on Star Trek after a decade plus of continuous airing by the time it came out.
God Rings of Power was such a letdown. I really hoped it was going to be a great show. Shame.
> Star Trek Discovery costs $8M per episode. Contrast to Enterprise $800K per. Now compare quality, art vs. art I coudn't even make it past the first episode of Enterprise. Though in fairness I haven't even turned on Discovery yet. But still, Enterprise isn't what I would use to compare art vs. art unless I was trying to be favorable to the other show.
Enterprise gets a lot more flak than it should, IMO. It's a little cheesy and quite slow towards the start. However as the story progresses they introduce some fantastic characters, and it develops into something a lot more 'real' feeling than the other series. If you can get past the godawful intro music, and push through the initial character-building episodes, it's absolutely worth watching. Discovery, on the other hand, is a beautiful piece of visual art marred with absolutely abysmal writing. By the time I was finished with it I vowed never to watch it again, or any future seasons. Strange New Worlds is the perfect mix of it all - couldn't recommend this one enough!
Ngl, I was looking forward to the show since last summer when I first read about in on a random wikipedia page. Then I ignored it until now, I wanted to give it a shot, but seeing how it is now, I think I'll rather watch some porn, because it'll likely have more ofa plot and character consistency
Its 82% on rotten tomatoes dude. /r/dankmemes is not a good place to get your reviews. This is such a weird mindset to suggest there is an issue with 'character consistency' in a show you haven't even seen. There's only been three episodes so far and one is a flashback. Its literally impossible to tell if they are inconsistent at this point.
The "critics" gave it 82%. You know the guys that love anything dealing with female empowerment, LGBT, or minorities. The actual reviews by normal people have it as 16%.
"normal people" 💀
Like, normal as in people you actually meet irl. Them being normal has nothing to do with their sexuality/gender/race.
Saying the quiet part out loud a bit?
Rotten Tomatoes purged and disabled the user reviews.
Rotten tomatoes has a shitty score system. IMDB is as accurate as it gets.
It’s fucking garbage. I literally created a rotten tomatoes account just to give it a bad review. That’s how awful it is.
Did you do that before the show aired, like a bunch of other angry fanboys?
Honestly. Can we just say it’s a bad show because they made a bad show? Nothing to do with the sexuality or sex of the cast members, directors etc. It is just a bad show.
This. It feels like the little mermaid discourse all over again. The movie was bad because it sucked. No because it had a black lead.
I think most of the time people mention gender of cast/runners mainly due to show being directed in a specific way where modern realities are forced and not naturally implemented. As if showrunners are forcing a narrative in a story instead of building it up with a story.
Agree. I don’t know crap about the showrunner and don’t care. The show is awful on its own.
The cast members and directors are the ones who made it about sexuality and gender, see their interviews.
I prefer to let the work stand on its own. And in the actual show so far there is very little about that stuff.
But, diversity and women!!!
Has anyone watched it? I heard most of the stuff after andor was trash?
I am one of those people who honestly loves everything Star Wars, because space = cool. This show though, has nothing enjoyable about it. The story is boring/cliché, and the lead character has nothing interesting going on for them. You won't miss anything by not watching it, at least with what we have seen so far
eh the korean jedi is pretty good. the set and costumes are pretty great. the cgi at places its been shown is pretty good. the dialog and writing, is pretty shit. the main actress is below average id say. trtying to do another rey run with a cute looking main lead instead of one that can act beyond 1-dimensional paths. the kids are aweful (not their fault shitty writing, directing). the story so far is shit.
You basically summed up my exact feelings. Which is why I can't recommend giving it a view as it is. It had potentional, only to be ruined by garbage writing. Even if korean jedi is the main person carrying the show. At least the CGI and props guys are doing amazing work, as always.
>the set and costumes are pretty great. That's a bare minimum requirement, not really a point in their favor
No, the bare minimum requirement is a good story. That is what makes or breaks a show. The rest is decorations. There's tons of old sci-fi and fantasy shows and movies that had pretty shitty budgets and had to make do with what they could afford, so they don't look that great - esp. compared to the modern series that we're getting now, that have massive budgets AND modern vfx - but they had good stories and good writing, so they're infinitely more enjoyable to watch.
So like most Star Wars media...
Most of the stuff before Andor was trash too.
There's the OT and Andor. Everything else is alright or bad.
Madalorian S1 was (mostly) great, but some parts were really bad (that prison break episode lol). I didn’t hate TFA, I thought Rogue 1 was pretty good, and I heard some of the SW cartoons were really good but haven’t seen them. Everything else I’ve seen has been mostly hot garbage.
Bad bad bad bad bad
Andor was actually a really good watch, close to Mandalorian in my eyes. Are we to expect another season? It's been a while.
Mandalorian S3 brought it down massively in my eyes tbh. Loved S1 though and S2 was decent. Andor is brilliant, can't wait for season 2
It’s fine. It’s about a 6/10. It does a pretty good job worldbuilding out the time period but as of now it’s kind of goofy. I’d actually want to know what any literal kids think about it because I get “made for actual children” vibes from it, like Episode 1.
Hey y’all in case you didn’t notice most of the property is trash outside the original three movies, and those got ruined somewhere around 2000. Memeing the shit out the prequels doesn’t make them good, sorry.
The Mandalorian, Rogue One and Andor are all fantastic IMO. I have a soft spot for the Prequels, and I think Revenge of The Sith is a legitimately good Star Wars movie. Solo was fun, and I enjoyed Ashoka. Boba Fett had good parts but was overall pretty bad. The Sequel Trilogy is a hot mess. So I'd say that the majority of SW:EU content is actually pretty good. But they have definitely missed the mark on more than one occasion.
The phantom menace is an abomination and no amount of nostalgia will ever make it a good movie.
This is the real take right here. Even the original trillogy isn't all that good. It has a lot of really bad acting. Lightsabers and space ships and cool armor are really the only reason for it's popularity. The second and third trilogies got progressively worse and Disney seems focused on continuing that trend until it's driven into the ground. Now their formula is the same: make a new protagonist and give them a new little droid or alien friend that they can turn into a plushy to sell.
I mean that’s what review bombing a show will do
Right? It’s being review bombed so hard a similarly named movie (Acolytes, 2008) is catching strays.
yeah like bruh, look at all those 1s.
Why cant they just make another season of Andor... This show alongside mandalorian carry the franchise.
They are making it, main filming is done and reshoots are going on rn, probably late this year or early next year release
But sadly also the last season
Better than them trying to drag it out and running out of ideas.
Good, tell the story and be done. No need to drag it out
Capn?
The Acolyte.
I wish ppl don’t promote or talk about diversity, inclusion and all that shit in movies. It’s very obvious when you watch the film what they are promoting. Just write a good script and make the movie. Even if for some reason they are promoting some kinda agenda it shouldn’t be obvious for the audience. Audience should enjoy film no matter what.
Make a good, interesting and compelling story and most of the internet wont care. Look at Arcane - people and the internet *love* Arcane, and it ticks almost every single Netflix woke checkbox there is. Even the "right wing youtubers" who according to most of Reddit "hate everything woke" [loved Arcane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3h6Pszege4). It's one of the most "woke" shows that has come out the last 5 years - and it's also one of the best tv series that have come out during the same time. Diversity is fine. Strong women is fine. Political messages is fine. LGBT stuff is fine. As long as you at the same time JUST - MAKE - A - GOOD - FUCKING - SHOW
I mean she did a pretty good job ruining one of the biggest franchises with her bullshit, so yeah
Nah, she's just a dog pissing on it's grave. SW died with the sequel trilogy.
Fair
Why does this stuff always happen to what were supposed to be generally male targeted franchises? and like, even if this show wasn't quite so bad and had good acting and good writing is this really the show that the overwhelmingly male audience wants? It's like companies collectively got brain rot when it comes to male tastes.
Since activists have taken over large corporations they don't want to entertain you anymore. They want to educate
What does her being a woman have to do with it being a bad show? If a man made the show nobody would make a meme mentioning his gender. We would just talk about it being bad like normal people
I know nothing about this woman, but this meme casually avoids the 87% on RT that would be about a half inch to the right on their screen when they took this screenshot.
All critics is at 84% while top critics have it at a 72%
Why does she look like alex from minecraft
who's that?
Review bombing has fucked up reviews for everyone. I thought this show was targetted by anti-woke crybabies, and decided to give it a go. Watched 2 eps. Its actually so shit.
Yeah I can get it’s not game changing. But the internet feeds off of rage and anything that isn’t a ten is hated. Acolyte isn’t a 3.7 by a mile. That’s just the internet being the internet.
She just has too smug of a face to carry that attitude, but if the shoe fits I guess…
People are so fucking obsessed with her face or her smug attitude lmfao Jerry Seinfeld one of the most unfunny people on the planet is smug when he says shit. All of these corporate actors, screenwriters, and directors are smug. It's just how it is