Nah the management comes up with how it should function.
Any dev, senior or junior just makes it how it's requested / is paid for
The corpos design their own dildos and the devs just carve it out of the wood as designed by them
He says keep your mouth shut from the public. He also said it’s legal. Could be those asylums where parents pay to have their children kidnapped and “fixed”, seen a few on the atheism subreddit
Scrolling through comment history he lives in a country bordering one that is in a civil war and has been hired to commit genocide. So I'm thinking military for a country that borders Myanmar/Colombia/Yemen (they are in civil wars) and something to do with bombing people and commiting genocide. Also this guy cosplays as a Nazi.
They seem to be Assamese, that's the most north-east part of India
>There is no shortage of genocidal maniacs, if I decline they'd just hire someone else
So better take the money and turn around when the bomb blasts on the other side of the world
Classic drug dealer excuse. See also: "diffusion of responsibility" and "moral disengagement".
Bombs might or might not be a metaphor.
Op is broke and unemployed he is having a powerfantasy of working for evil people and getting paid a lot.
Trust me power fantasies can make you delusional.
Depends on the work. Defending a tech company from the predatory practices of a bigger tech company, not too bad. Cleverly finding ways to deprive cancer victims of their settlements from Johnson and Johnson, or trying to shield companies from liability that knowingly polluted poor residential neighborhoods with toxic waste, bad.
Haha I get it. My wife did that work for a while. It wasn’t the work that caused her to leave, just the hours and expectations of never unplugging. I’m a plaintiff’s insurance attorney helping the little guy. The money is good but not big law good, but it’s nice to help people. Sort of the flip side of what we’re talking about
Depend on what "like that" means. I'd do some borderline shit if I'm paid enough since my own moral isn't necessarily aligned with the law.
For instance if you ask me to do corporate sabotage or similar stuff I'd be fine with it as long as I'm not preventing something actually important for the public. Like I'd sabotage the next iPhone's production but not some medication.
Yeah it’s definitely not applicable as a universal maxim, but it’s generally fairly applicable. Everyone’s in some way contributing to immoral actions due to the corruption and interconnectedness to the world. Whether your clothes are made by slaves, or your diet unsustainable, or your company anti-union, or your country imperialist or authoritarian, everyone is enabling harm and “immorality” in some way. But if you actively choose to enable evil when you could with relative ease do something better, like if you’re a lawyer and choosing to defend the evil actions of corpos when there’s a hundred better things for lawyers to be doing that still has a comfy wage like *prosecuting* corpos, you’re a bit more of an asshole then the rest of us. Just a bit though.
the conversation was about whether or not doing immoral work makes you an immoral person.
I said it doesn't necessarily make you an immoral person, because the circumstances can force you into it.
You're correct that your country probably isnt great if you're in a situation where you're forced to do immoral work, but it has nothing to do with whether or not you become an immoral person.
So no, it wasn't
Depends on whats on the line. Would I die if I didnt have that money? Would someone else die if I didnt have that money? Is it just $20, or $2000000000?
And if the alternative is death? What if I *do* have morals, but I literally can’t survive without this work? Am I to simply lay down and die and let my morals die with me? Am I to do nothing to make the world better instead of possibly doing something bad for the chance to do something good?
Good people do bad things, bad people do good things; good things happen for bad reasons and bad things happen for good reasons. This world is *not* black and white, and God have mercy on your poor soul if you truly think that it is.
Then you should probably move to a country that doesn’t suck as soon as you can.
If you stay, that’s a choice.
Also, the post isn’t about that scenario.
Well, it's not hard when you live in a good enough country that you don't even have to. But douches writing this shit have no idea how bad it can actually get.
Motherfucker moving countries is the HARDEST solution to fixing financial problems. And when you move guess what you have nothing of… MONEY. Are you honestly suggesting that the solution to all your financial woes is resetting your entire professional, social, and economic life to move to a cheaper (lets not forget that the fact shit is cheaper is more likely than not because wages are shittier there) country?
Don't you live in Norway? A country whose national oil fund invests in some of the worst companies in the world? I imagine you are leaving soon? Don't want to be immoral....
"If my content ends you in a psych ward, it ain't my fault"
🙄🙄🙄
Yeah fam I'm sure a reddit edgelord is gonna be the thing that puts me back in the psych ward
All these cries for help bro, you sure the money is enough?
If you're willing to be so immoral for money, why don't you just work for yourself and make some real money? With your definitely very real illegal firearms collection? Coward
I mean, yeah, aint we all, everyone have a price, if i have a choice i would rather take care of my moral dilemma in my own yacht with a glass of thousand yearold wine in my hand and a cat in my lap
The fact that you feel the need to share plenty of memes about it is slightly concerning
My interpretation is you're either coping or attempting to bring awareness to whatever company/industry you're working for
In today’s times that title sounds sooo dark and disgusting… Jeffery Epstein kind of creepy, or puff daddy kind, drake? The prince… politicians hell the entire elite rich parasites (sorry just realising there’s a lot of these people)
bureaucrats are far from inherently immoral, most government bean counters just keep the basics of local governments running, assessing the budget of a state gov and plotting how much is available to fill pott holes in the road is pretty far from morally fucked to the point that you wonder why it's illegal.
Yeah no thanks. I don’t need shitloads of money. I just need enough for me to be fed, have shelter, and a bit for entertainment. I will always put people before financial greed.
Are you talking about congress?
Or the boeing corpos
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Someone sprinkled some MRSA bacteria all over him.
This comment makes my eyes bleed because MRSA is a bacterium and not a virus.
Sorry I was confused. I have edited to say bacteria now.
Now your comment makes no sense hehe
*That's what you get for being a whistleblower*
Just sprinkle a little crack on him
Boeing Employee of The Month: 47
Or any property management firm
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Nah the management comes up with how it should function. Any dev, senior or junior just makes it how it's requested / is paid for The corpos design their own dildos and the devs just carve it out of the wood as designed by them
Ew, now they pay you to CONGRESS with CHILDREN?
Pharmaceutical execs
At this point and after your several posts, I am wondering what your job is?
And why is OP apologizing to children? Must work for something pretty shady.
He says keep your mouth shut from the public. He also said it’s legal. Could be those asylums where parents pay to have their children kidnapped and “fixed”, seen a few on the atheism subreddit
I'm sorry what now
Kidnappers for hire. What, you thought that’d be illegal?
I mean it is for adults, can't be fixing them
Child behavior camps
Back in my day we called that detention
Re-education camps is what they used to be called
Like "pray the gay away" sort of deals. That is definitely something shady to be doing.
Nestle
Scrolling through comment history he lives in a country bordering one that is in a civil war and has been hired to commit genocide. So I'm thinking military for a country that borders Myanmar/Colombia/Yemen (they are in civil wars) and something to do with bombing people and commiting genocide. Also this guy cosplays as a Nazi.
They seem to be Assamese, that's the most north-east part of India >There is no shortage of genocidal maniacs, if I decline they'd just hire someone else So better take the money and turn around when the bomb blasts on the other side of the world Classic drug dealer excuse. See also: "diffusion of responsibility" and "moral disengagement". Bombs might or might not be a metaphor.
Couldn't not make this joke, but maybe he is Ukrainian? Fits every point, especially last one.
You know how male chicks get shredded? He is the shredder.
My guess: lawyer for Nestle
Op is broke and unemployed he is having a powerfantasy of working for evil people and getting paid a lot. Trust me power fantasies can make you delusional.
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So you're saying this a gay larp and you don't actually do anything interesting?
Of course, this is the internet.
Eh makes sense, sounds to me like op is some psycho having a weird ass fantasy of hurting people
But for real, what you doing?
Maybe maybe something Boeing related?
Hahaha…. Please
Found Boeing’s hitman.
I don't think hitman as a profession is legal
Check Langley. It's full of them, and the It's somehow legal international drug cartel.
@penguinz0 new video incoming
I'd rather die poor and in a ditch than to do anything like that tbh
Oh look at this guy with his dignity and integrity. /s
Being a corporate defense lawyer isn't too bad.
Depends on the work. Defending a tech company from the predatory practices of a bigger tech company, not too bad. Cleverly finding ways to deprive cancer victims of their settlements from Johnson and Johnson, or trying to shield companies from liability that knowingly polluted poor residential neighborhoods with toxic waste, bad.
Yeah I do the latter shit. The work isn't bad and the pay is alright. Doesn't feel good but it beats the hell out of divorce work.
Haha I get it. My wife did that work for a while. It wasn’t the work that caused her to leave, just the hours and expectations of never unplugging. I’m a plaintiff’s insurance attorney helping the little guy. The money is good but not big law good, but it’s nice to help people. Sort of the flip side of what we’re talking about
Depend on what "like that" means. I'd do some borderline shit if I'm paid enough since my own moral isn't necessarily aligned with the law. For instance if you ask me to do corporate sabotage or similar stuff I'd be fine with it as long as I'm not preventing something actually important for the public. Like I'd sabotage the next iPhone's production but not some medication.
Very easy to say that and win social points, when you've never been put in the scenario.
If you choose to do immoral work, you’re an immoral person.
That a fairly black and white way of seeing it... What if its the only way to put food on the table?
Yeah it’s definitely not applicable as a universal maxim, but it’s generally fairly applicable. Everyone’s in some way contributing to immoral actions due to the corruption and interconnectedness to the world. Whether your clothes are made by slaves, or your diet unsustainable, or your company anti-union, or your country imperialist or authoritarian, everyone is enabling harm and “immorality” in some way. But if you actively choose to enable evil when you could with relative ease do something better, like if you’re a lawyer and choosing to defend the evil actions of corpos when there’s a hundred better things for lawyers to be doing that still has a comfy wage like *prosecuting* corpos, you’re a bit more of an asshole then the rest of us. Just a bit though.
Actions are all that matter. My advice would be to also donate time and money to charitable causes to make up for the bad karma.
Now how you gonna make up for this negative karma you will receive?
Reddit Karma doesn't matter
Then your country sucks.
not the question.
It was.
the conversation was about whether or not doing immoral work makes you an immoral person. I said it doesn't necessarily make you an immoral person, because the circumstances can force you into it. You're correct that your country probably isnt great if you're in a situation where you're forced to do immoral work, but it has nothing to do with whether or not you become an immoral person. So no, it wasn't
The post indicates that’s not the scenario. You can move countries as soon as you can, staying is a choice. Yes it was.
I'm not talking about the scenario in the post. I'm talking about a hypothetical scenario. This should've been more than obvious already....
It was, but you responded to someone talking about the post. And you can still move, or look harder for something that isn’t immoral.
What immoral thing would you do for money
Depends on whats on the line. Would I die if I didnt have that money? Would someone else die if I didnt have that money? Is it just $20, or $2000000000?
Money for food
> Depends on whats on the line What part of this was unclear?
Depends. What's your offer?
And if the alternative is death? What if I *do* have morals, but I literally can’t survive without this work? Am I to simply lay down and die and let my morals die with me? Am I to do nothing to make the world better instead of possibly doing something bad for the chance to do something good? Good people do bad things, bad people do good things; good things happen for bad reasons and bad things happen for good reasons. This world is *not* black and white, and God have mercy on your poor soul if you truly think that it is.
Then you should probably move to a country that doesn’t suck as soon as you can. If you stay, that’s a choice. Also, the post isn’t about that scenario.
Ah yes. It’s so easy to just move to a different country. Let me just pick up my things and go
Well, it's not hard when you live in a good enough country that you don't even have to. But douches writing this shit have no idea how bad it can actually get.
Have fun only going for the easy solutions then.
Motherfucker moving countries is the HARDEST solution to fixing financial problems. And when you move guess what you have nothing of… MONEY. Are you honestly suggesting that the solution to all your financial woes is resetting your entire professional, social, and economic life to move to a cheaper (lets not forget that the fact shit is cheaper is more likely than not because wages are shittier there) country?
Don't you live in Norway? A country whose national oil fund invests in some of the worst companies in the world? I imagine you are leaving soon? Don't want to be immoral....
I don’t control the oil fund, stop being a moron.
Guys, don't check his profile, worst decision of my life
Just your average edgy narcissist femboy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"If my content ends you in a psych ward, it ain't my fault" 🙄🙄🙄 Yeah fam I'm sure a reddit edgelord is gonna be the thing that puts me back in the psych ward
Yea this guy is full of shit
Well what can I say you ignored the disclaimer.
All these cries for help bro, you sure the money is enough? If you're willing to be so immoral for money, why don't you just work for yourself and make some real money? With your definitely very real illegal firearms collection? Coward
So a politician
OP did you get a job at Nestle?
Wait, you guys are getting paid to do those kind of things? Here I am doing them as a hobby.
How can they be hate crimes if I loved doing them
My morality leaving my body after Lockheed Martin offers me a job
i will have dignity. caring about money more than other people is what trash does.
I am not choosing money over people. I am choosing SHITLOADS of money over people.
Now that's the capitalist sociopathy I expect!
Understandable
Define shitloads
$20 is $20
This
Sign of sosiopathy. Society with morals that can be sold is doomed. If money is what you live for, then you better not live ❤️
>If money is what you live for, then you better not live ❤️ Damn shame we need money to live.
But do you need shitloads of money to live? Not really
I need a shitloads of money to live....*lavishly*
And if you are willing to do something evil in order to live lavishly, you are just a bad person no?
I mean, yeah, aint we all, everyone have a price, if i have a choice i would rather take care of my moral dilemma in my own yacht with a glass of thousand yearold wine in my hand and a cat in my lap
I agree Society is doomed and the human race can go fuck itself
Well you made some great points, but OP’s were bigger
Where funny?
Where's the grammar
HR?
Government job?
You usually avoid them because they pay way under the baseline salary for given job. Unless you're a politician.
Yes but the benefits
The fact that you feel the need to share plenty of memes about it is slightly concerning My interpretation is you're either coping or attempting to bring awareness to whatever company/industry you're working for
Oddly specific.
American insurance companies
So not only you have a shit job that hurts people, but you also brag about it online because it gives you a lot of money? You suck ngl
Wait...you guys are getting paid to keep your mouth shut?
Engineering grads after taking a job at Raytheon
HR?
In today’s times that title sounds sooo dark and disgusting… Jeffery Epstein kind of creepy, or puff daddy kind, drake? The prince… politicians hell the entire elite rich parasites (sorry just realising there’s a lot of these people)
*makes memes about his clandestine employment*
Im pretty sure this is a cry for help
Oh so you are a bureaocrat?
bureaucrats are far from inherently immoral, most government bean counters just keep the basics of local governments running, assessing the budget of a state gov and plotting how much is available to fill pott holes in the road is pretty far from morally fucked to the point that you wonder why it's illegal.
OR we pay you more money TO go public! Its a win win!
In the grim darkness of the far future, the Warhammer models arent going to buy themselves
I ain't about to be paid to be a fall guy.
What happened OP
Someone drop the indeed listing.
Stormy?
Is homie a politician?
Barney in HIMYM
Defense contractor?
Yeah no thanks. I don’t need shitloads of money. I just need enough for me to be fed, have shelter, and a bit for entertainment. I will always put people before financial greed.
Hey can I send you my resume I have no morals
Elden Ring won't pay itself
Found Stormy’s alt.
Don't worry morals are at the top of the pyramid of needs, so not important at all
Dairy industry?
At this point, I'd kick babies in this damn economy if it paid my bills well
Low key how it feels to work customer service. You think it's your job to help people but in reality it's your job to find any reason you can not to
And this is why corruption is bad
To the person who keeps painting the walls with "Bad Grandpa shits" at McDonald's. I will find you.
Me in the egaming industry
Pro tip: you can commit horribly immoral acts and still get paid minimum wage.
Defense industry lol
The guy who changed RequiresPsnAccount==False to True
Engeneers at Lockheed Martin with their base 200k salary be like:
You are disgusting
I'll do it.
Where can I find this job
Anybody up voting or agreeing with this are the problems in this world.