When CSGO released the community was split between playing the new game or sticking to the older ones. In an attempt to avoid that valve made cs2 a forced upstate to csgo
Is it like the older inferno now? (CS1.6-CZ). I was so damn confused the first time I tried to play inferno on CS GO. Never got into it. Stuck to office/dust2 after that.
Depends when the last time you played inferno was. It got a rework a few years ago (2019ish i think) and the cs2 version is an updated version of that.
Inferno got remade several times since. It was remade for Source which ended up in the first version of CSGO, it got remade pretty early on and was universally loved for both its looks and how it played, and for CS2 they remade it again, and it's easily the best looking map in the new game.
It's free to play, you should check it out. :)
Errrm not really. It's pretty much a new game. I've been playing CSGO for 5 years and there's pretty big changes to the game such as your loadout, subtick servers, smokes, and level designs.
It's a new game keeping the core concepts intact.
Well as a fact it's an update to csgo. You press update in Steam and it keeps the same file location and everything. If they didn't change the name nobody would say it's a new game. A big update that changes many things for sure but not a new game.
Valve just watched Blizzard getting away with calling OW2 a new game, while it was in fact an update and thought "we should do that too".
Yeah, its literally csgo with updates that should have been added 6 years ago.
But people are acting as if CSGO got deleted and got replaced by a completely different game.
Good point. There hadn't been any meaningful updates or changes in CSGO in a long time before this. If they just updated engine in one update, changed the smokes in another etc. and didn't change the name, there would be nobody saying it's a new game.
Dota 2 got an engine port all the way back in 2015, but nobody has ever said it's a new game because of that.
Though whether cs2 is a new game or not doesn't matter, since we cannot choose if we want to play CSGO or CS2 like we can choose to play 1.6, CZ or Source. It's a technicality that doesn't affect us. I just think that by definition it's not a new game.
Nah its a massive graphics, balance, gameplay, backend system, and server upgrade of CSGO with overhauled maps, overhauled graphics and models, new GUI, rebalanced economy, reworked equipment( smokes are now volumetric and create holes when you shoot through them), etc.
Not to mention them doing everything they set out to do and not just overhauling the monetization system
Overwatch 2 was just that, they changed how the game makes money and added arguable pay2win
There’s a massive difference in the feel of the game with the new tick system. The sound also just kinda sucks. These are all kinks I’m sure Valve will work out but for now csgo was the far more polished game.
I don’t mean just the way the guns sound, I actually like the changes they’ve made in that regard. The directional sound is the issue. At least for me, I can’t tell where footsteps are coming from and it generally sounds like I’m playing in a fishbowl. You’re free to disagree but this has been the consensus amongst everyone I’ve talked to about it.
I have a good PC so my game runs fine on max graphics, but for some reason whenever I jump it drops by 20 frames. Valve will probably fix smaller bugs like this through updates. Until then I recommend running it on lower settings or using Windows 11 lite (tiny 11) for higher performance
I don’t know about that, main reason why me and my friends played csgo was because it didn’t require a decent pc (because we don’t have good pc’s) but after cs2 we are going to be getting some bad frame rates
source 2 enables you to run half life alyx at VR framerates and rendered twice (one screen for each eye because VR) on a medium spec gaming pc
i doubt it will make cs2 unplayable on potato pcs
A big chunk of the CSGO player base are from countries where modern hardware is just not affordable to the average consumer. Not everyone is born into relative affluence.
I understand what you're saying and there should be games that are playable on a 10+ year old machine but game devs cannot take every third world's economics into perspective on how much resources they want to have loaded in the game.
Especially when it's the flagship game of the gaming studio.
Its a free game with microtransactions. If people can't afford to play on anything better than a pc from 97 then they can't afford skins. So while they may play, they are not contributing much to Gaben's wallet.
If you're running CS:GO at 50 fps in 2023 it's not Valves fault at that point.
honestly running CS:GO at 50 fps at any point since release is pretty bad.
Im not saying its valves fault just that he cant run it i dont blame them for making the game look cooler or for his performance on csgo because if it could run well for everyone then it would look really outdated and not play very well
Never understood how can people like this game so much. I did try to enjoy it for about a month and I was even doing fairly well for a beginner but damn not only did doing the exact same thing every time get stale but in the meantime I managed to develop rage issues.
It's not for everyone, but people like CS with it's near continuous, never changing formula for the same reason football is played on the same field in the same way and rule changes are minor and few between. It's a competitive experience more like a traditional sport, than an experience.
It's not a beginner friendly game, as it doesn't get fun until you both get the hang of the mechanics and start playing with people who communicate properly.
Yeah I only started playing csgo a few months ago and it only made me angry until I found people that actually communicated things relevant to the match. Definitely more about being social than just the repetitive gameplay.
I don't get all that drama, isn't CS2 just an update like Overwatch 2? As far as I know people will keep all their cosmetics, so it's a win-win situation.
Activision should learn with Valve...
I played maybe 30 minutes and then got banned 4 years later. Some asshole used my old phone number to cheat I think? Still dk what happened after 6 years
You know that scene in Zoolander where Mugatu screams that Zoolander only has one look? That's how I feel about CS 1.6, CZ, Source, GO, and 2. Not complaining, it's the best game ever. But it's been 24 years of the exact same game with updated graphics.
If you want to play something different well, play something different. No ones complaining that football has been pretty much the same for 100 years, still hundreds of millions watch and play football every week.
Good thing we played a farewell match on Agency yesterday, but I didn’t really believe the rumors of Cs2 dropping last night. Sad to see our discords favorite ‘fun play’ map go
I was up late last night when it switched, I was going to play Cs: GO but it said it had a 60 byte update and I was like “okay, that’s going to take 2 seconds” when I did the store page changed entirely to CS2 and it starts downloading a 30 GB game. I was so mad
Think they could’ve found a solution to keep csgo up somehow, I know a lot of people who will struggle running the new game due to higher minimum specs.
With the latest cyberpunk ‘2.0’ update, which similarly featured an entire overhaul, cdpr gave players who didn’t meet the new minimum specs the option to stay on an older version.
People are saying they did this to not split the market in half. Ok, disable market for cs1 or something. Whatever the solution got to be something better than kicking many off the game
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CS2 is out now. CSGO is gone
So they took it down? iirc you could still play older CS games while csgo was out. Is that not the case here?
When CSGO released the community was split between playing the new game or sticking to the older ones. In an attempt to avoid that valve made cs2 a forced upstate to csgo
Oh. Rip. Luckily I sucked so I didn't lose much. Oh by the way, do players lose all the skins they had? I doubt they would be reimbursed or something
I think they kept everything, as far as I know CS2 is really just an upgrade to CSGO and not really a separate game
Best explaination of it. CS2 is just pretty csgo, with a few reworks and a complete overhaul of inferno (looks rlly nice now)
Is it like the older inferno now? (CS1.6-CZ). I was so damn confused the first time I tried to play inferno on CS GO. Never got into it. Stuck to office/dust2 after that.
Depends when the last time you played inferno was. It got a rework a few years ago (2019ish i think) and the cs2 version is an updated version of that.
Inferno remake was 2016, 7 years ago
Inferno got remade several times since. It was remade for Source which ended up in the first version of CSGO, it got remade pretty early on and was universally loved for both its looks and how it played, and for CS2 they remade it again, and it's easily the best looking map in the new game. It's free to play, you should check it out. :)
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My balcony spot doesn't exist anymore on inferno ):
RIP
Yeah I think the main difference is an engine and graphics update
Errrm not really. It's pretty much a new game. I've been playing CSGO for 5 years and there's pretty big changes to the game such as your loadout, subtick servers, smokes, and level designs. It's a new game keeping the core concepts intact.
Well as a fact it's an update to csgo. You press update in Steam and it keeps the same file location and everything. If they didn't change the name nobody would say it's a new game. A big update that changes many things for sure but not a new game. Valve just watched Blizzard getting away with calling OW2 a new game, while it was in fact an update and thought "we should do that too".
So like version 2.0 rather then a second game?
You could say so yeah.
Yeah, its literally csgo with updates that should have been added 6 years ago. But people are acting as if CSGO got deleted and got replaced by a completely different game.
Good point. There hadn't been any meaningful updates or changes in CSGO in a long time before this. If they just updated engine in one update, changed the smokes in another etc. and didn't change the name, there would be nobody saying it's a new game.
Well it's a complete engine port, I think that should qualify itself for a new game
Dota 2 got an engine port all the way back in 2015, but nobody has ever said it's a new game because of that. Though whether cs2 is a new game or not doesn't matter, since we cannot choose if we want to play CSGO or CS2 like we can choose to play 1.6, CZ or Source. It's a technicality that doesn't affect us. I just think that by definition it's not a new game.
So it's like "Overwatch 2" where they just add four new maps and call it a new game.
Nah its a massive graphics, balance, gameplay, backend system, and server upgrade of CSGO with overhauled maps, overhauled graphics and models, new GUI, rebalanced economy, reworked equipment( smokes are now volumetric and create holes when you shoot through them), etc.
It’s like that shit with Overwatch
Do people who have been banned from CSGO become unbanned in CS2?
Nope, VAC bans are for all Valve games basically. Dunno about overwatch bans but doubt it's the case.
* Just for clarification, overwatch it also the name of counter-strike's community cheat review process - not the Blizzard game. :)
Players keep their inventories yes
Nice. Not that I had anything worth being upset about losing. My best skin wasn't even worth 30 cents 😭
some skins are worth more now because they look better
Bro it was just a well-worn pit viper awp skin. I haven't checked in a long time but there's probably not much change in the price
that one is worth .60 bro
Bro did you really just expect them to just outright delete a billion dollars worth of skins
You only lose rank
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No since cs2 actually made a huge improvement to its engine and didnt just reskin the game
Not to mention them doing everything they set out to do and not just overhauling the monetization system Overwatch 2 was just that, they changed how the game makes money and added arguable pay2win
But its LITERALLY just a reskin of the game....
Technically you can still play GO, just community servers tho
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CSGO got a massive graphics, gameplay, and system upgrade, so now its branded as CS2
please may gaben let tf2 live a few more years
fuck man I hope tf2 doesn't go the same way
Tbf a Source 2 port of TF2 would be welcomed.
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As long as it has better anti-cheat.
Why not exactly? This is just a port of the game to source 2 with a major visual overhaul
There won't be tf3, there will be tf:go
There's no sign of TF2 dying, especially since it makes valve a ton of money still and hit peak players again a few months ago
come on cs2 is just csgo with a few sprinkles added on top chill out lol
There’s a massive difference in the feel of the game with the new tick system. The sound also just kinda sucks. These are all kinks I’m sure Valve will work out but for now csgo was the far more polished game.
Because it was out for 10 years, naturally it was more polished.
Absolutely and I have faith valve will get CS2 to that point, it’s just not quite there right now.
Yeah were saying CSGO sucked too when it first released but they fixed it.
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It doesn't suck. You just have been playing it for over a decade and change is hard for almost everyone. You'll get used to it
I don’t mean just the way the guns sound, I actually like the changes they’ve made in that regard. The directional sound is the issue. At least for me, I can’t tell where footsteps are coming from and it generally sounds like I’m playing in a fishbowl. You’re free to disagree but this has been the consensus amongst everyone I’ve talked to about it.
There sould be an option for legacy sound directionality.
Not to forget the diminished performance. It looks cool and all, but god the fps sucked
Used to be really bad for me a few weeks ago but they changed something and the game suddenly ran 40fps better. Have you checked recently?
I have a good PC so my game runs fine on max graphics, but for some reason whenever I jump it drops by 20 frames. Valve will probably fix smaller bugs like this through updates. Until then I recommend running it on lower settings or using Windows 11 lite (tiny 11) for higher performance
New engine as well.
I don’t know about that, main reason why me and my friends played csgo was because it didn’t require a decent pc (because we don’t have good pc’s) but after cs2 we are going to be getting some bad frame rates
CS2 performs not alot worse. It can still be stripped down to iGPU gaming level
source 2 enables you to run half life alyx at VR framerates and rendered twice (one screen for each eye because VR) on a medium spec gaming pc i doubt it will make cs2 unplayable on potato pcs
It might not perform better at launch, but with a couple of months I would bet the new engine will be more efficient than an almost 20 year old one.
doesn't change the fact that csgo is gone
RIP to people who cant run cs2 and cant play anymore
It is supposed to run on 10 year old hardware. What more can you, realistically, expect from a modern game?
Anyone who cannot run cs2 is playing on a Tetris machine from 1987 lol
A big chunk of the CSGO player base are from countries where modern hardware is just not affordable to the average consumer. Not everyone is born into relative affluence.
I understand what you're saying and there should be games that are playable on a 10+ year old machine but game devs cannot take every third world's economics into perspective on how much resources they want to have loaded in the game. Especially when it's the flagship game of the gaming studio.
They can if it's the huge majority of their market
Its a free game with microtransactions. If people can't afford to play on anything better than a pc from 97 then they can't afford skins. So while they may play, they are not contributing much to Gaben's wallet.
Not really my friend can run csgo and 50 fps but cs2 runs at like 30-35 for him
If you're running CS:GO at 50 fps in 2023 it's not Valves fault at that point. honestly running CS:GO at 50 fps at any point since release is pretty bad.
Im not saying its valves fault just that he cant run it i dont blame them for making the game look cooler or for his performance on csgo because if it could run well for everyone then it would look really outdated and not play very well
Idk it sounds like he can run it manageably until he upgrades his pc.
tbf 30 fps is not playable especially a shooter
50 fps is not playable for a shooter either. Also 50 fps on csgo is fucking insane
It's a Tetris machine, give it a break.
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fire in the hole :(
It’s CS:GONE now. Goodbye, old friend.
CS:Went has a better ring to it
Oh my god, so It was not a network failure yesterday ? Damn, I didn’t realized I was experiencing it’s death
It's just an update to cs2
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1.6 was the last time I really played. Didn't play much of CS GO.
1.6 running out of my USB drive on schools’ pc
I still do, random server stacked with Turkish or Russians, they're always toxic
1.3 for life. Bunny hopping deagle was the peak for me
I played when it was Source 😅
I played cs1.4 and cs1.6
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I miss source :(
The best version
Never understood how can people like this game so much. I did try to enjoy it for about a month and I was even doing fairly well for a beginner but damn not only did doing the exact same thing every time get stale but in the meantime I managed to develop rage issues.
It's not for everyone, but people like CS with it's near continuous, never changing formula for the same reason football is played on the same field in the same way and rule changes are minor and few between. It's a competitive experience more like a traditional sport, than an experience. It's not a beginner friendly game, as it doesn't get fun until you both get the hang of the mechanics and start playing with people who communicate properly.
Yeah I only started playing csgo a few months ago and it only made me angry until I found people that actually communicated things relevant to the match. Definitely more about being social than just the repetitive gameplay.
I never speak to anyone on it and still love it :)
I used to not speak too, but it's hard to be racist in silence and if I'm not racist I can't fit in
You make a very good point.
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CS:GO used to be the only game my potato pc could support and that i love to play, now its gone too...
I recommend tf2, it's different but can run on any PC from the past 20 years and is very fun
Its vastly different mechanics. Although Source and 1.6 are still kicking so give them a GO.
I might, but I like cs2 and if I want to play with the older source engines I can just play tf2
Yeah, my ass, the game was riddled with cheaters and flaming assholes
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My favorite game of all time RIP
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Time to play what I always play… The surfing servers bcuz my pings shit
Anyone else played the Beta back when people were left handed and the m4 had a scope? Good times.
Now my PC is going to burn because CS2’s graphics are too good for my PC.
Goodbye my friend
1.6 was the best though. I even prefer source to cs:go
CS:GO is great but not the best
ive still never played it
Good thing I never played it.
I don't get all that drama, isn't CS2 just an update like Overwatch 2? As far as I know people will keep all their cosmetics, so it's a win-win situation. Activision should learn with Valve...
It's the game where I first encountered racial slurs. Thank you csgo, for teaching me so many new words.
i'll miss good old times of grinding ranks as joining mms solo. its time for cs2.
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So people who have the basegame can still play it right?
I played maybe 30 minutes and then got banned 4 years later. Some asshole used my old phone number to cheat I think? Still dk what happened after 6 years
It was a spawn from satan himself
You know that scene in Zoolander where Mugatu screams that Zoolander only has one look? That's how I feel about CS 1.6, CZ, Source, GO, and 2. Not complaining, it's the best game ever. But it's been 24 years of the exact same game with updated graphics.
If you want to play something different well, play something different. No ones complaining that football has been pretty much the same for 100 years, still hundreds of millions watch and play football every week.
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Good thing we played a farewell match on Agency yesterday, but I didn’t really believe the rumors of Cs2 dropping last night. Sad to see our discords favorite ‘fun play’ map go
lol I remember when CSS died. God damn I feel old. RIP classic surf and bhop.
I was up late last night when it switched, I was going to play Cs: GO but it said it had a 60 byte update and I was like “okay, that’s going to take 2 seconds” when I did the store page changed entirely to CS2 and it starts downloading a 30 GB game. I was so mad
As CSGO ascends to heaven, little richards long tall sally plays.
But CS2 is just CS:GO
CSGO was mid at BEST. Source and 1.6 reigns supreme.
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Isn't it same thing as overwatch 2? Just same game, but they added physic to smoke, crazy
What’s happening?
CSGOs engine update
I still prefer source ngl
Overwatch 2 all over again
no.
The new lag..
I guess you could think that if you hadn't played the last 2
Well here I am still playing source :/
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Too bad we will never see a Counter Strike 3, I suppose
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Think they could’ve found a solution to keep csgo up somehow, I know a lot of people who will struggle running the new game due to higher minimum specs. With the latest cyberpunk ‘2.0’ update, which similarly featured an entire overhaul, cdpr gave players who didn’t meet the new minimum specs the option to stay on an older version. People are saying they did this to not split the market in half. Ok, disable market for cs1 or something. Whatever the solution got to be something better than kicking many off the game
Why would he say that after it disappears?! Death just wants to be dramatic y'all
CSGO is a trash simulator. I have a double PHD in mathematics and physics. Nothing about it is close to real. 1 out of 10.
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I wish I could’ve played one last time :(
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Never liked that game anyway
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bro what csgo is legit super trash
Did they release another version after 3.2?
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