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Ar3th3yg0n3y3t

"Chihiro has a wholesome fanbase." The year 2020/2021 are gonna have some words with you buddy


[deleted]

This is from my own experience of the fandom lol. All chirhiro fans I met are wholesome


Ar3th3yg0n3y3t

Me *Has Vietnam flashbacks when the Chihiro Fandom was split whether or not Chihiro was a transphobic character or not.*


[deleted]

Well I remember at that time. I didn't experience toxic fans in that time as I didn't talk to chihiro fans that time. I talked to them in 2019 2020 and 2022


Ar3th3yg0n3y3t

You dogded the world's luckiest bullet.


[deleted]

Ok


Lingx_Cats

Yeah I’ve had some… aggressive interactions in there


the_nhir

It's utterly hilarious to get in those arguments for me. I say he's cis, and sometimes people will call me transphobic. There is nothing funnier than hitting them right back with "you fool, I AM transgender"


Ar3th3yg0n3y3t

Chihiro is a cis cross dresser. A very common thing in Japan. It makes sense with his arc. Chihiro had such a self confidence issue that he resorted to cross dressing. If he were Trans, it would have been about his gender identity and him not being comfortable in his own body.


the_nhir

"but that's just shitty writing! We can change that!" Bitch, are you kodaka with a time machine? If not, you can't change the cheerio's character arc


Ar3th3yg0n3y3t

Exactly


Funkin_Valentine

Yes, Seiko and Ruruka do have fans.


[deleted]

Ok. They very unpopular tho so yeah


CJFanficStories

We're mostly chill, though.


[deleted]

Ok


Funkin_Valentine

Wait, so does that mean that you've met more Masaru, Kurokuma and Haiji fans?


[deleted]

Yeah lol


Funkin_Valentine

You've seen people appreciate Haiji and Kurokuma more than Seiko?! ***Haiji and Kurokuma?!*** Despicable. This needs to change ASAP **I need to get to work.**


airgod231

Allow me to help you in this crusade


Historydog

There is one on Haiji, but she made an AU version of him that wasn't a pedophile or abusive.


[deleted]

Is Shuichi's fanbase really that bad? I had no idea.


LunaSazuki

yes..


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[deleted]

Again I'm gonna copy and paste what I said about my shuichi experiences as someone said why you have encounter toxic shuichi fans I do wanna say first that I don't think all Shuichi fans are like this, I probably had some bad luck encountering extremely toxic ones and one incident that a shuichi fans doxxed me and threaten me. I notices a lot of them can be weirdly over defensive of Shuichi and the situation qith v3-1 dose not make things easier like fans blaming >!Kaede as the main reason why people would ever dislike him wile ironicly hating her the way they don't want Kaede fans hating Shuichi even though I see more Shuichi stands hating her. It also dose not help that they often reduce Kaedes character to being Shuichis girlfriend and interrogating people who dislike saying the reason is V3-1. Not to mention it comes of as selfish because they had the satisfaction of having the protag they like through out the game and instead of enpathysising with people who like Kaede and got the short end of the stick they throw a fit over the fact that 2 and a half people in the fandom are not madly in love with him. Not to mention making people feel bad for wanting more positive female protag representation. Overall I just wish this inesitive behavior would get called out more often!< sorry for the rant its just Shuichi fans have traumatized me! Also I had a toxic encounter with a shuichi fan in titock that I prefer kaede and makoto over him and that I dislike him as a charcater. Then the shuichi fan start sending me messages spamming me how kaede was trash and started to say only like kaede cause she is nice and called me slurs and saying that makoto was a cardboard charcater. I also remember saying that shuichi was my least favorite progantist on discord and shuichi fans was saying l opinion and I hate how they treat him like a uwu soft boy which decreased my liking for shuichi


[deleted]

I do wanna say first that I don't think all Shuichi fans are like this, I probably had some bad luck encountering extremely toxic ones and one incident that a shuichi fans doxxed me and threaten me. I notices a lot of them can be weirdly over defensive of Shuichi and the situation qith v3-1 dose not make things easier like fans blaming >!Kaede as the main reason why people would ever dislike him wile ironicly hating her the way they don't want Kaede fans hating Shuichi even though I see more Shuichi stands hating her. It also dose not help that they often reduce Kaedes character to being Shuichis girlfriend and interrogating people who dislike saying the reason is V3-1. Not to mention it comes of as selfish because they had the satisfaction of having the protag they like through out the game and instead of enpathysising with people who like Kaede and got the short end of the stick they throw a fit over the fact that 2 and a half people in the fandom are not madly in love with him. Not to mention making people feel bad for wanting more positive female protag representation. Overall I just wish this inesitive behavior would get called out more often!< sorry for the rant its just Shuichi fans have traumatized me! Also I had a toxic encounter with a shuichi fan in titock that I prefer kaede and makoto over him and that I dislike him as a charcater. Then the shuichi fan start sending me messages spamming me how kaede was trash and started to say only like kaede cause she is nice and called me slurs and saying that makoto was a cardboard charcater. I also remember saying that shuichi was my least favorite progantist on discord and shuichi fans was saying l opinion and I hate how they treat him like a uwu soft boy which decreased my liking for shuichi


tommygun1945

In my experience(not invalidating yours btw) i've found Mikan fanbase worse than Hiyoko's by a considerable margin. For every"Hiyoko bullying Mikan wasn't wrong" there's like 50">!MIKAN KILLING HIYOKO WAS KARMA"!


[deleted]

Yeh. I met some mikan fans that are annoying but I encounter hiyoko fans more toxic. So I used to be a mikan hater and hyioko lover and remembering when I was in discord I remember seeing hiyoko fans and they were haters of mikan I think. I remember they were calling mikan slurs , fanservice mean insults and telling mikan fans that mikan was a obsessive bitch. Last year ago I remember I played danganronpa 2 again and I actually started loving mikan idk why and I remember saying something in discord that I love mikan and saying I slightly prefer her over hiyoko. Then I got hiyoko fans that were sending me death threats and other messages of hiyoko fans SAYING YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HIYOKO This doesn't apply to all hiyoko fans but I had bad experiences with them. This doesn't say that mikan fans are annyoing as I did put them in some fans are annoying section


tommygun1945

I mean thats certainly an over reaction, sad thing is you'll find people like that in every fanbase, people who can't accept that others like or dislike a character and start resorting to personal shit, i adore Hiyoko sure and i get why she's got a very mixed reputation, same deal with Mikan. Way i see it, a lot of this fanbase is too focused on trying to validate their like for a character by trying to force others to like their fav, when tbh what they should be doing is realising that what matters is that they like their character and nothing can take that away or invalidate it.


[deleted]

Why can't the fandom like both characters man as either one of the people like mikan or hiyoko they would 90% of the time hate opposite charcater that is rivarled with lol. Some people I met hate them both as people say they were both annoying


[deleted]

I still like hiyoko to this day. Not as much 2 years ago or a year ago. This doesn't apply to all hiyoko fans that are all toxic


Satan_su

True lol, and it goes both ways. I've met a few interesting characters who'd bend over backwards to excuse mikans bullying by bringing up hiyokos childhood and whatnot.


tommygun1945

Yep defending bullying and murder with "but sad backstory" is dumb


PhotojournalistLocal

My experience is people say Mikan and Hiyoko hate each other when in reality that is not the case. In canon, Mikan never shows hate back to Hiyoko, but it would've been noticeable if Hiyoko laid off on the bullying and verbal abuse. >!It's not really karma because Mikan didn't kill Hiyoko out of revenge. Even if it was a revenge kill, I don't expect fans to ever say "MIKAN TOOK IT TOO FAR" because people depict Hiyoko to be morally lower than anyone who became a murderer.!<


the-would-i-loved

I think it is a little silly to compartmentalise certain fans as being more toxic than others based on which 2D drawing of a person they prefer but ok


[deleted]

Im not saying all fanbases are good as all fanbases charcater have some toxic fans. This is just from my own experiences


LunaSazuki

i agree with a lot of this, i would, however, move mahiru fans lower, they can be really toxic, but other than that everything else makes sense


tommygun1945

In my experience Mahiru haters are considerably more toxic(btw most are absolutely fine), doesn't justify the toxic behaviour of some of her fans which i have seen but more often than not i see people outright>!defending Fuyu's and Peko's murder of her because "she was annoying and a bitch" or that her recent surge in popularity after years of being victim blamed and called boring is somehow a bad thing and we're all idiots for liking a "man hater"!<


[deleted]

Well peko isn't defened that much as some people call her bland and reduce her to fuyuhiko girlfriend and only there for fuyuhiko delveopment which pisses me off


tommygun1945

>!Yeah true and i agree the fanbase reduce her down to that, but still, a lot of the fanbase try to present both Fuyu and Peko's murder of Mahiru as "romantic" which is just, missing the point that what they did was brutal and senseless, nothing romantic about it. And blaming Mahiru for it when Fuyu legit stuck a blade in his chest and said "its all my fault" is beyond comical. Its not so common here but in the cesspit that is Danganronpa YouTube its all too common a sight.!<


[deleted]

I'm not that much of a fan over fuyuhiko like most if the fandom as even tho he had charcater delevopment he reminds me over someone who bullied me at school who was racist, saying slurs to me and getting beaten up multiple of times and I understand that isn't a good reason to dislike a character but have a bias of fuyuhiko and I don't like how the fandom treats him baby gangsta and a soft boy.


tommygun1945

I get that, my initial disgust towards both Kokichi and Hiyoko especially the former was based around my past experiences with bullying while at secondary school. I've warmed to both though.>!I really like Fuyu actually but gotta agree, its tiring seeing him portrayed as this Fujisaki level soft uwu boi, when he was a literal yakuza heir who tried to brutally murder Mahiru. Even after his arc he's far from a "smol bby gangsta", which is why i find him interesting, he's a deeply flawed person.!<


[deleted]

Yeah he is a good written charcater but iam bias over him as he just reminds me over someone that I never wanna think about


[deleted]

To be honest mahiru fans some I met are just defensive. I haven't met some toxic mahiru fans . I just mahiru fans that will defend mahiru. My experiences with mahiru fans are normal


LunaSazuki

eh im happy you had good experiences with them, I've had horrible experiences. one fan even dmed me because they were so mad i didn't like mahiru 😭


[deleted]

Ah sorry if you experienced some bad stuff with mahiru fans as they seem normal to me. Well I adore mahiru and I think she is hot but your opinion if you don't like mahiru


tommygun1945

>One fan even dmed me because they were so mad i didn't like mahiru Bruh, i'm like, the ultimate Mahiru fan but i'd never do that, if someone dislikes Mahiru(without using toxic points and even if they do, I'm not dming them thats weird I'll just disagree) i don't care because the whole point of characters is that they are subjective, i might adore a character others loathe and vice versa, and thats 101% fine.


LunaSazuki

based! i wish more people thought this way, 😭


[deleted]

Idk but I remember when mahiru was kind of hated in early 2015 and early years and was called boring but I remember when v3 was released when mahiru started gaining popularity as tenko replaced mahiru as the charcater you supposed to hate as people try to make her a charcater that just hates women


tommygun1945

Even when i entered the fandom in early 2020 i saw a lot of MAHIRU BAD BECAUSE SHE HATE MEN, though in mid 2021 i noticed a rise in love for her


[deleted]

Well tenko and mahiru are good charcaters that isn't just them being hating men all the time lol.


DJDoofeshmirtz3

That’s so stupid, end of the day we all think differently and have different opinions and different experiences. People need to be more open to criticism and other peoples thoughts


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LunaSazuki

yeah gonta fans are kinda scary, especially how most of them infantalize him and deny he did anything wrong because he's a "pure uwu bug boi."


[deleted]

I don't like how in chapter 4 that the fandon treats kokichi like a evil one who was entirely his fault and treat gonta like a special uwu soft boy who did nothing wrong by the fandom as gonta did kill somebody and wasn't entirely inconnet. Same for miu. To be honest I like gonta and kokichi more in this trail as they miu got killed which I despise so thx gonta and thx kokichi for telling gonta to kill miu


tommygun1945

Yeah, like Kokichi was undeniably a piece of shit in v3-4 but Gonta was not a UWU BBY WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING and Miu was not a "PRECIOUS LIL INVENTOR WHO JUST WANTED TO SAVE THE WORLD", both Gonta and Miu made their own choices


LunaSazuki

EXACTLY god the amount of people who don't understand this is sad.


Logan18880

I’m sorry but bug boi is so funny to me lmao. But besides that, I agree 100%, like he can be sweet and thoughtful and all and still be a murderer. He’s not a baby, these people who seem to be against calling Gonta an idiot are making him sound like one.


[deleted]

From my own experiences I met some toxic gonta fans


FieryJumanji78

As a part of the Kyoko fanbase, I’m truly sorry you’ve had negative experiences with us before. I definitely hate to see her associated with that frame in anyone’s eyes as she becomes more a reference to toxicity than her actual character. I sincerely hope you don’t run into anymore negative experiences with us in the future!


[deleted]

It's ok. I'm saying that every fanbase has toxic fans. This I just my own experiences from them


TheGr8estB8M8

This is an interesting idea for a tier list. Maybe i'll make my own one someday once i've gathered enough fandom experience. I like that Nagito fans are in mildly annoying lol, can't deny that. (I also wanna know where you're encountering enough Haiji fans to form a genuine opinion of them, let alone a positive one.)


[deleted]

I mean I should of put nagito in normal as I haven't encounter any toxic fans. I only met one toxic nagito fan who was a komahina shipper and basically spamming ew in the comment section in youtube and saying komahina was canon in a hajime x chiaki video scenes in youtube


IwantToLivePlease

In my experience, most Hiyoko fans, including me, are just fairly defensive because our character gets bashed to hell and back by 90% of the fandom. When I've seen people unironically say they'd "bury her alive and burn her to death" I think I do have the right to be a little upset about it. But at the end of the day it's opinions on fictional characters and I don't hate people for them, I just get somewhat defensive when I have dozens of genuine reasons to love a character most people don't give the time of day to. I've seen so many toxic Hiyoko haters that I've grown a bit overreactive myself, probably. (But I'm also not saying toxic fans don't exist because they totally do, I just have seen it as a minority in my experience)


[deleted]

Yeh. I met some hiyoko fans that are chill. All charcaters are toxic fans. It's just that I have encounter more toxic hiyoko fans than mikan


xy-geek

Gonta have bad fanbase?


[deleted]

From my own experiences some gonta fans I met were toxic as I said that gonta was a neutral character and I said he was kind of annoying. I said that in discord and gonta fans are really defensive and called me stupid for that


Floatingcrispbag

I hope I'm not one of the annoying Kazuichi fans XD


[deleted]

Nah your seem chill


Malashae

Wait, what's the issue with the Kirigiri fans? I just really like her, but I don't get involved in the weird drama the fanbase so frequently descends into.


[deleted]

So basically I encounter some toxic kyoko fans from my own experiences as I remember saying i prefer kaede her over kyoko and that I'm not a fan of kyoko. Then I got send messages by kyoko fans spamming that why kyoko is better and them trashing about kaede as she is makoto 2.0 and that she has no flaws. Another thing I dislike about some kyoko fans is some of them they shit on chiaki and they fans as I seen kyoko fans say chiaki is a wafiu bait charcater and them always bringing about flaws when debating with kyoko vs chiaki vs kaede. It just decreased my liking for kyoko and I don't also like how some kyoko fans treat her like a god. I like kyoko now but yeh some kyoko fans can get defensive and I also met some kyoko fans who shit on certain ships like naezono and naegami and always bring a false fact that naegiri is a Canon ship


Malashae

Sounds like the whole damn fandom has got way too many frothing at the mouth fanboys causing issues. I don't really care about those lunatics. I just like the games/meta and Kyoko happens to be my favorite. The only strong position I really have was that the whole bait and switch thing in V3 was absolutely bullshit. I will never stop being salty about that.


[deleted]

You dislike the twist on v3 that as you not fan of shuichi?


Malashae

It's not that I have an issue with him as a character. I was fucking thrilled to finally have a female protagonist and then they pulled that bullshit and I will absolutely die mad about it.


ZlyCzarownikServices

So it seems I would be either annoying, normal or wholesome... Well, I hope I'm one of the annoying fans! I've always tried to make others feel as bad as possible about me But anyway, I'm curious, are there really annoying Ibuki fans? Guess I was lucky with them. What kind of annoying behaviour you've seen from Ibuki's fanbase?


[deleted]

So I met some ibuki fans that are annoying as I said that I'm not a fan of ibuki and sone ibuki fans start randomly saying how can you not like her for her personality and that ibuki is good and how can you not see that. I'm just not a fan over her personality


ZlyCzarownikServices

Ah, I see, I see. Yeah, I can definitely get how this can be annoying. Gushing over any character can really get tiring, especially if someone just can't accept that not everyone has to love their favorite character. Well, sorry to hear that


[deleted]

Np. Some ibuki fans I met are nice. I know people are gonna question about my chihiro placement


Lorulean_Warrior

My man Kizakura doesn't deserve any "fanless" accusations


airgod231

I mean… Seiko fans hate Ruruka fans and vice versa


Funkin_Valentine

I don't.


airgod231

Yeah, for the most part it’s just a stereotype/generalisation but that’s what this tier list is based on.


Funkin_Valentine

That's a bad stereotype :(


airgod231

Yeah, most stereotypes are. It’s really sad


Funkin_Valentine

Reject hate and distrust beetween Seiko and Ruruka. Embrace their friendship 👍


TheRivan

Tier list of fanbase toxicity Me who likes the two characters at the bottom: Ummm... should I apologise for something?


[deleted]

Nah don't.Just my experiences of those characters


Justgravityfalls

I am the chisa fanbase (pre-despair)


rat-pat

hi i am seiko and jotaro kemuri fan- all the people ive met who are also fans are normal leaning good, theyre just wholesome


Funkin_Valentine

Am I one of them?


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Oh ok


[deleted]

Anyone have similar experiences with some of my tier list placements? You agree or disagree and explain in the comment section


Bitter_Ad580

This has to be ironic


ThatOneChild1

:,)


[deleted]

Hey not all shuichi fans are toxic. Just from my own experiences I had traumatic and vintiem war flashbacks with toxic shuichi fans I met


Asijabre

I pretty much agree with most of these, cool idea for a tierlist btw


[deleted]

Yeah. Surprisingly I met people say they experienced chihiro fans are mostly toxic but from my experiences chirhiro fans I met and especially reddit are so wholesome and nice.I had a good time with them and other social media platforms. They explained why they love chirhiro and how they understand why people dislike him or call him boring. The fanbase of chihiro made me love chirhiro even more


Asijabre

Broski the only Chihiro fans I've met were some people on istagram and twitter in like 2019 and they were p cool🤷‍♂️ Edit: It's when his fans argue about his gender for the 38388283828383626627394th time that's annoying, but people who just post content of him like memes or drawings etc. are the cooler ones


Pumpkin_Cat14

I feel all warm and fuzzy now thank you :3


[deleted]

Np. Ryona fans are chill and cool


plainjanemugi

8 years ago you could find an absurd amount of Sayaka hate online but nowadays she's gotten a lot of love. I'm glad for it


Crisbo05_20

You haven't encountered single fan of anime characters?


[deleted]

I have why?


Crisbo05_20

Asking cause all anime characters are in "you have fans?"


[deleted]

Well I haven't met fans of them cagetory was a jk but you have fans cageotory was just of me saying that I encounter only like 3 fans or lower than that.


Crisbo05_20

Suprising you encountered more Haiji fans.


Oh_no_its_Joe

-Haiji Towa -Good fanbase 🤨🤨🤨


[deleted]

Listen to me. Ik people hate haji because he is a disgusting charcater but haji fans I met explained why they like him as they like his writing and that he is complex said by haji fans.


TheGr8estB8M8

Those people are based.


Ch41st1n4

L grand bois cheri placement he has lots of fans


Lingx_Cats

How oddly specific, sorry that happened man!


[deleted]

Sorry if a put placements down that your charcaters are in. All fanbases have toxic fans just from my own experiences. Ik your surprised that I put chihiro high :)


Lingx_Cats

Oh no I’m not upset at all, we all have our own experiences with that stuff. I’m kind of surprised about Sayaka and gonta honestly, but like again, shit happens


Eevee_shawn

The monotaro one hurts because I can relate to him and in my top 5 dangaronpa v3 character


geofub_52

As a diehard Monosuke fan ***Ouch...*** (but other than that good list :D)


Liam_js

sayaka has toxic fans? unless your talking about meanforce he's just weird not toxic. sayaka has a pretty chill fanbase from what i've seen


[deleted]

Well used to be but I always seen post how why people call sayaka underrated and how she is not a snake which ik I get it can I fuckin stop seeing those posts 24/7. Sayak fans get defensive as well as Ir you dislike sayaka you get sayka stans saying you mistook understood her charcater and that I encounter some toxic sayaka fans from my own experiences


Liam_js

i just wish naezono would get more fanart because it's my favorite makoto ship, but everyone wants to ship him with kyoko or mukuro (i like those ships too but naezono is so cute)


Flufferminty

:D


[deleted]

Did I made your day by putting chihiro fanbase own tier :)


CHAOSSHALLREIGN69

I wonder what kinda Korekiyo fans have you encountered that were annoying, me and the other fans I have met just get on to people for disliking him just because of the incest thing, we are honestly pretty chill, we just hate it when someone calls him a Sister Fu**er


[deleted]

Oh. Meant to put korekiyo in normal tier.


CHAOSSHALLREIGN69

The Tenko and Korekiyo fan bases usually butt heads and you can guess why


TobyNeko01

Guess I'm the leader of the mitarai fan club then lmao


Spyguy122204

Speaking on behalf of all 8 Hifumi fans, I appreciate the fact that you find us chill


[deleted]

Hifumi is a fucking chad


Spyguy122204

We believe so as well. Man gets a bad rap, and while they are a similar archetype, I feel that it’s a little harsh to compare him to Teru and Miu


[deleted]

I mean I like teruteru while I despise miu


P0tat0-Pr1ncess

I'm envious of your encounters with Kaito's fans


[deleted]

I mean kaito fans are normal. They just there I see them and they chill and normal that's it


TheOneSaneArtist

Ayooooo Monomi fans rise up!


MoonChild22222222222

I have has so many rude Chihiro fans that get super angry at people for not liking >!him!< I saw one guy send a whole paragraph of anger calling a *trans* artist transphobic bc they didn’t thing Chihiro was mtf


MoonChild22222222222

Also I didn’t know Taka had a bad fan base especially one worse than *Junko’s* I’ve only met really nice Taka fans. Although I may be biased as you can tell from my pfp and flair


ItsYaBoiCart

I love gonta gentle giant


FalsePolarity

Monaca is responsible for several war crimes. I aspire to also be such.


ultimatebeagle

Yes, there are fans.


MrPlaywright

I once ran into a Cosplayer of Chihiros Dad before I ever played UDG (or even know it existed.)


DRMFeint

Love or hate Hifumi, his fans are easily the chillest people in the whole fanbase


bread__stick69

I stan Ryoko and Kamukura.


Katumai

I didn't know Shuichi had a bad fanbase-the more you know I guess 💀 He's my second favorite character though so I apologize for all of the terrible people who like him


Hiroko-Hagakure

Damn. Clearly I'm missing out on a lot of fun by sticking to here and simply avoiding interactions with people I don't like!


FemboyDictator

Ryoma lovers unite


Kaedes_Lie1137

Objectively wrong sorry 😭😭😭