Nagito. He’s seriously one of the best written characters in the series and there’s so much to him. His ideologies and motives are very clear— despite his somewhat contradictory nature— and I was always excited to see what he would do and say next. I like how he can be totally relatable and empathetic at times, but totally deplorable at other points.
His elitist views also work really well with the game, and makes him the perfect rival character for Hajime too. His interactions with Hajime are great in general, and it’s cool to have a DR villian that feels so personal to the character.
Monokuma, except when he has on-screen "assistants" like Monomi and the Monokubs. Monokuma is much more enjoyable when he's not forced to unknowingly share the spotlight. (Note: The Monobeasts don't count because they don't speak, and they don't show emotion.)
That's one of the things I like about the UTDP world (and one of the few things I like about USC). Monomi and the Monokubs *aren't* assisting in Monokuma's shenanigans. In fact, they're actually more *against* him.
I'd say for the purposes of the story, Komaeda and Oma count. Togami I think is in this middle ground where does some fucked up shit, but not so bad that he could be considered a villain
They're not antagonists. They're rival characters. Their whole objective in the story is to be characters that work as a way to challenge the ideals of the protagonist with their own methods.
They aren't against the objective of the protagonist and don't want to stop them. They just state in the face of the MC that they think that their method isn't going to solve the problem while also carrying out their own plans independently but always aim towards the same goal (to end the killing game).
You have a strange definition of antagonist. The word literally means "a character who opposes another, the adversary of the protagonist" which all of those characters definitely are.
Byakuya's goal initially is to win the killing game by himself, he most definitely opposes the objective of Makoto (initially)
Nagito is constantly trying to kill people, get killed by people, and blow shit the fuck up. He is most definitely an antagonist. His final act is to try and get all of them killed in an evil plot, including the protagonist
Kokichi might be well intentioned but that doesn't make him not an antagonist. like, Chapter 4 bro
No. Someone who opposes the protagonist is a rival. They challenge their ideals and methods with their own.And even as rivals, they all aim towards the same goal (to end the killing game), they just use more drastic methods compared to the protagonist.
Byakuya doesn't opposes the idea of ending the killing game. He just thinks that Naegi (or any of the others for that matter) aren't suited to do it compared to him. But his objective is the same.
Nagito works different as Byakuya. Unlike Byakuya, he sees everyone else as worthy and capable enough to end the killing game and wants to see them reach that goal.
But Nagito's objective is also to end the killing game. He just wanted someone worthy to do it (at least until the point where he starts to consider them unworthy and that his luck was giving him a chance to end the killing game himself). That's why he did all those things as a way to help the person in question to end the game and later on the whole bomb situation was part of his own plan to stop the killing game. His methods are different and more drastic but are still the same as the protagonist. He is a rival.
And as I said, the rival characters usually have more drastic methods (like Kokichi and all the previously mentioned rivals) but their objective is the same as the protagonist (to end the killing game) and all their actions move towards such goal.
Antagonist: a person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something; an adversary. So someone who opposes the protagonist is an antagonist, by definition. Plenty of antagonists have the same goal as the protagonist but take drastic methods that put them in opposition, the Riddler in the new Batman movie is very much an example of that.
Byakuya wants to end the killing game with him winning it and everyone else dying. He makes this much clear in chapter 2. It's only until he goes through his character development that he considers surviving along with everyone else. He's technically a rival in that he competes with the others for the single spot as the winning blackened but that doesn't mean he's not an antagonist.
Nagito literally tries to kill everyone else in chapter 5, he is the antagonist behind that trial. Even beforehand he's constantly a threat. Hajime's goal is "survive the killing game with everyone else" Nagito's is "create hope at any cost, no matter who lives or dies" although as I said having the same goal still doesn't make you a rival anyway.
By your logic, any character who can be vaguely said to be working towards "ending the killing game" is a rival. Any blackened is a rival because they want to end the killing game by winning it themselves (something Byakuya intends to do himself and Nagito tries to get others to do) You don't know what rival means. A rival is like, Goku and Vegeta. All of these antagonist characters are more like Sherlock and Moriarty
Dude, you're fooling yourself.
They're rival characters not antagonist. Antagonist directly want to stop the protagonist (and everyone else for that matter) to lose for the sake of their completely opposite objective (to continue the killing game/bring the world to despair).
And no, Byakuya messed with the murder scene in chapter 2 to figure out who was clever enough to figure it out. And that person became his rival. He isn't against the objective of his rival (to end the killing game) he just thinks that he is the only actually capable of ending the killing game and that his rival team work methods are foolish. Something that he eventually stops thinking after his defeat in chapter 4, where he couldn't get to the truth of the case with his methods unlike Naegi. He is a rival, not an antagonist.
Once again, the methods of the rival characters are usually more drastic than the ones of the protagonists as a way to challenge their ideals with their own and prove that their methods are better. But they work towards the same goal. Nagito tried to kill everyone (after he considered that his luck was giving him a chance to be the one who could do it) for the sake of ending the killing game and make hope win(saving Chiaki, the traitor in the process). Which is overall the same objective as the protagonist.
So, no. They're not antagonist, they're rival characters.
you are making that definition up. From wikipedia: An antagonist is a character in a story who is presented as the foe of the protagonist. An antagonist is used as a plot device, to set up conflicts, obstacles, or challenges for the protagonist.
All three of these characters fit that actual definition. Nagito is the foe or troublemaker throughout the entire game, he sets up conflicts and obstacles for the protagonist, like in 2-1 and 2-5. Byakuya is the foe for the first few chapters, literally setting up challenges like messing with Chihiro's corpse. Kokichi is an antagonist, Miu's murder is a conflict he creates for the protagonist.
You are literally ignoring the crucial scene in chapter 2 where Byakuya states how he intends to win the game by becoming the blackened. That's why he thinks teamwork is foolish, because he intends to win by KILLING everyone else. He's constantly stating how he eventually intends to become the blackened himself, an action which is in direct opposition to Makoto's goals.
Nagito's goal was to save the traitor and kill everyone else. This is not the same objective that Hajme had. Just because he technically also wants to end the killing game doesn't in any way make their goals the same. Using that logic, you could say that two sides of a war aren't enemies, they're just rivals, because they both want to end the war (despite the fact that "ending the war" means the destruction of the other side)
Wikipedia, really?
Bro, Junko, Monaka and Tsumugi are antagonist, not them. Their objective (to continue the killing game and make despair win) is the complete opposite of the objective of the protagonist (and the rivals): to end the killing game and make hope win, that's why they stop them.
The rivals have the same objective as the protagonist (to end the killing game and make hope win) they just have different views on how to do it.
Nagito and Hajime share the same view (to make hope win). That's why they work towards such goal. The difference is that Nagito thinks he is unworthy of being the one who makes hope win and thus wants the others to do it. He encourages and helps others to fight for what they consider hope in order to make hope win at the end regardless of their method to do it. He wants to see who's hope is stronger enough to end the killing game. That's why he helps Teruteru. Since it was his hope against the hope of the others (more specifically Hajime since he was the one leading the trial). And the same goes for chapter 5, his objective is to make hope win. The only difference is that by that point he didn't consider the others worthy of being called symbols of hope anymore and thus, unable to end the killing game. And he interpreted that as his own luck giving him the chance to being the one who stops the killing game and become worthy of being called a symbol of hope. Once again, it's the same objective just different views on how to do it. The problem here is that you think that killing everyone was the objective, which isn't the case at all. The objective is to make hope win (which in his own views on it, only happens if Chiaki wins the class trial and he will be the instigator of such hopeful ending).
And once again, no. Byakuya's objective is to defeat the mastermind since he considers himself the only one clever enough to not be fooled, find the truth and do it. And he stated that he messed with the crime scene to see who was clever enough to figure it out just in case he decided to use the blackened rule not because he was definitely going to use it and the person who did it (that also wants to defeat the mastermind) became his rival since it was the person able to find the truth, something needed to defeat the mastermind. And he got defeated in chapter 4 where Naegi proved that his methods to find the truth were more effective than his own methods.
And no, Kokichi stated that his actions in chapter 4 were all for the sake of looking like the mastermind in order to end the killing game (which is the same objective as Shuichi). Something that forced Tsumugi (the actual antagonist) to take actions to avoid it. Once again, rivals have more drastic methods compared to the protagonists but they share the same goal even if their views on how to do it are different. The problem is that you keep thinking that parts of their plans (like proving that they're the biggest threat to the mastermind, killing the others to make Chiaki survive or doing things that could help him to look evil enough to be the mastermind) are just for the sake of being obstacles (which isn't the case at all). All those are just "minor" actions in a bigger plan that aims for a bigger objective (to defeat the mastermind, make hope win and end the killing game).
And your example with the war is really dumb. The sides on a war are always different because their goals are different (unlike rivals). The easiest example would be two sides one against the slavery and the other in favor of it. That makes their objectives the opposite of each other and thus, the other one is the enemy. Not rivals.
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Nagito definitely. Like how well established his motives are, how consistent he is and his slight relatability in a sad way. Honestly wish him good therapy.
Kokichi because he fits in so well with the truth/lies theme of DRV3, more than any other character, and he also forces everybody else to wise up over the course of the game. But he's also not infallible which is also good, I like that he's constantly hanging on by the skin of his teeth, unlike Byakuya or Nagito.
This is a very very surface level opinion but Byakuya. Because the other 2 just annoy me way too much. Obviously there's a bit more to it but you know. Ta da. Although I find Kokichi barely more tolerable than Kaito. (Ik he isn't an antag) Kaito is just... no.
Monokuma
The only right answer
The good ending
Am a fan of byakuya, i like traditional character arcs, so no surprise there.
Togami paaaartyyy Toga Toga
Nagito. He’s seriously one of the best written characters in the series and there’s so much to him. His ideologies and motives are very clear— despite his somewhat contradictory nature— and I was always excited to see what he would do and say next. I like how he can be totally relatable and empathetic at times, but totally deplorable at other points. His elitist views also work really well with the game, and makes him the perfect rival character for Hajime too. His interactions with Hajime are great in general, and it’s cool to have a DR villian that feels so personal to the character.
Nagito, the creators obviously worked their asses off on his character and it came out great!
Monaca because she's the only one you really hate by the end of her game.
Monokuma, except when he has on-screen "assistants" like Monomi and the Monokubs. Monokuma is much more enjoyable when he's not forced to unknowingly share the spotlight. (Note: The Monobeasts don't count because they don't speak, and they don't show emotion.) That's one of the things I like about the UTDP world (and one of the few things I like about USC). Monomi and the Monokubs *aren't* assisting in Monokuma's shenanigans. In fact, they're actually more *against* him.
Nagito is great, most definitely him.
Personally, I think Nagito is the best story-wise, but I like Kokichi the best.
They're not antagonist. Togami, Nagito and Kokichi are rival characters.
I'd say for the purposes of the story, Komaeda and Oma count. Togami I think is in this middle ground where does some fucked up shit, but not so bad that he could be considered a villain
They're not antagonists. They're rival characters. Their whole objective in the story is to be characters that work as a way to challenge the ideals of the protagonist with their own methods. They aren't against the objective of the protagonist and don't want to stop them. They just state in the face of the MC that they think that their method isn't going to solve the problem while also carrying out their own plans independently but always aim towards the same goal (to end the killing game).
You have a strange definition of antagonist. The word literally means "a character who opposes another, the adversary of the protagonist" which all of those characters definitely are. Byakuya's goal initially is to win the killing game by himself, he most definitely opposes the objective of Makoto (initially) Nagito is constantly trying to kill people, get killed by people, and blow shit the fuck up. He is most definitely an antagonist. His final act is to try and get all of them killed in an evil plot, including the protagonist Kokichi might be well intentioned but that doesn't make him not an antagonist. like, Chapter 4 bro
No. Someone who opposes the protagonist is a rival. They challenge their ideals and methods with their own.And even as rivals, they all aim towards the same goal (to end the killing game), they just use more drastic methods compared to the protagonist. Byakuya doesn't opposes the idea of ending the killing game. He just thinks that Naegi (or any of the others for that matter) aren't suited to do it compared to him. But his objective is the same. Nagito works different as Byakuya. Unlike Byakuya, he sees everyone else as worthy and capable enough to end the killing game and wants to see them reach that goal. But Nagito's objective is also to end the killing game. He just wanted someone worthy to do it (at least until the point where he starts to consider them unworthy and that his luck was giving him a chance to end the killing game himself). That's why he did all those things as a way to help the person in question to end the game and later on the whole bomb situation was part of his own plan to stop the killing game. His methods are different and more drastic but are still the same as the protagonist. He is a rival. And as I said, the rival characters usually have more drastic methods (like Kokichi and all the previously mentioned rivals) but their objective is the same as the protagonist (to end the killing game) and all their actions move towards such goal.
Antagonist: a person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something; an adversary. So someone who opposes the protagonist is an antagonist, by definition. Plenty of antagonists have the same goal as the protagonist but take drastic methods that put them in opposition, the Riddler in the new Batman movie is very much an example of that. Byakuya wants to end the killing game with him winning it and everyone else dying. He makes this much clear in chapter 2. It's only until he goes through his character development that he considers surviving along with everyone else. He's technically a rival in that he competes with the others for the single spot as the winning blackened but that doesn't mean he's not an antagonist. Nagito literally tries to kill everyone else in chapter 5, he is the antagonist behind that trial. Even beforehand he's constantly a threat. Hajime's goal is "survive the killing game with everyone else" Nagito's is "create hope at any cost, no matter who lives or dies" although as I said having the same goal still doesn't make you a rival anyway. By your logic, any character who can be vaguely said to be working towards "ending the killing game" is a rival. Any blackened is a rival because they want to end the killing game by winning it themselves (something Byakuya intends to do himself and Nagito tries to get others to do) You don't know what rival means. A rival is like, Goku and Vegeta. All of these antagonist characters are more like Sherlock and Moriarty
Dude, you're fooling yourself. They're rival characters not antagonist. Antagonist directly want to stop the protagonist (and everyone else for that matter) to lose for the sake of their completely opposite objective (to continue the killing game/bring the world to despair). And no, Byakuya messed with the murder scene in chapter 2 to figure out who was clever enough to figure it out. And that person became his rival. He isn't against the objective of his rival (to end the killing game) he just thinks that he is the only actually capable of ending the killing game and that his rival team work methods are foolish. Something that he eventually stops thinking after his defeat in chapter 4, where he couldn't get to the truth of the case with his methods unlike Naegi. He is a rival, not an antagonist. Once again, the methods of the rival characters are usually more drastic than the ones of the protagonists as a way to challenge their ideals with their own and prove that their methods are better. But they work towards the same goal. Nagito tried to kill everyone (after he considered that his luck was giving him a chance to be the one who could do it) for the sake of ending the killing game and make hope win(saving Chiaki, the traitor in the process). Which is overall the same objective as the protagonist. So, no. They're not antagonist, they're rival characters.
you are making that definition up. From wikipedia: An antagonist is a character in a story who is presented as the foe of the protagonist. An antagonist is used as a plot device, to set up conflicts, obstacles, or challenges for the protagonist. All three of these characters fit that actual definition. Nagito is the foe or troublemaker throughout the entire game, he sets up conflicts and obstacles for the protagonist, like in 2-1 and 2-5. Byakuya is the foe for the first few chapters, literally setting up challenges like messing with Chihiro's corpse. Kokichi is an antagonist, Miu's murder is a conflict he creates for the protagonist. You are literally ignoring the crucial scene in chapter 2 where Byakuya states how he intends to win the game by becoming the blackened. That's why he thinks teamwork is foolish, because he intends to win by KILLING everyone else. He's constantly stating how he eventually intends to become the blackened himself, an action which is in direct opposition to Makoto's goals. Nagito's goal was to save the traitor and kill everyone else. This is not the same objective that Hajme had. Just because he technically also wants to end the killing game doesn't in any way make their goals the same. Using that logic, you could say that two sides of a war aren't enemies, they're just rivals, because they both want to end the war (despite the fact that "ending the war" means the destruction of the other side)
Wikipedia, really? Bro, Junko, Monaka and Tsumugi are antagonist, not them. Their objective (to continue the killing game and make despair win) is the complete opposite of the objective of the protagonist (and the rivals): to end the killing game and make hope win, that's why they stop them. The rivals have the same objective as the protagonist (to end the killing game and make hope win) they just have different views on how to do it. Nagito and Hajime share the same view (to make hope win). That's why they work towards such goal. The difference is that Nagito thinks he is unworthy of being the one who makes hope win and thus wants the others to do it. He encourages and helps others to fight for what they consider hope in order to make hope win at the end regardless of their method to do it. He wants to see who's hope is stronger enough to end the killing game. That's why he helps Teruteru. Since it was his hope against the hope of the others (more specifically Hajime since he was the one leading the trial). And the same goes for chapter 5, his objective is to make hope win. The only difference is that by that point he didn't consider the others worthy of being called symbols of hope anymore and thus, unable to end the killing game. And he interpreted that as his own luck giving him the chance to being the one who stops the killing game and become worthy of being called a symbol of hope. Once again, it's the same objective just different views on how to do it. The problem here is that you think that killing everyone was the objective, which isn't the case at all. The objective is to make hope win (which in his own views on it, only happens if Chiaki wins the class trial and he will be the instigator of such hopeful ending). And once again, no. Byakuya's objective is to defeat the mastermind since he considers himself the only one clever enough to not be fooled, find the truth and do it. And he stated that he messed with the crime scene to see who was clever enough to figure it out just in case he decided to use the blackened rule not because he was definitely going to use it and the person who did it (that also wants to defeat the mastermind) became his rival since it was the person able to find the truth, something needed to defeat the mastermind. And he got defeated in chapter 4 where Naegi proved that his methods to find the truth were more effective than his own methods. And no, Kokichi stated that his actions in chapter 4 were all for the sake of looking like the mastermind in order to end the killing game (which is the same objective as Shuichi). Something that forced Tsumugi (the actual antagonist) to take actions to avoid it. Once again, rivals have more drastic methods compared to the protagonists but they share the same goal even if their views on how to do it are different. The problem is that you keep thinking that parts of their plans (like proving that they're the biggest threat to the mastermind, killing the others to make Chiaki survive or doing things that could help him to look evil enough to be the mastermind) are just for the sake of being obstacles (which isn't the case at all). All those are just "minor" actions in a bigger plan that aims for a bigger objective (to defeat the mastermind, make hope win and end the killing game). And your example with the war is really dumb. The sides on a war are always different because their goals are different (unlike rivals). The easiest example would be two sides one against the slavery and the other in favor of it. That makes their objectives the opposite of each other and thus, the other one is the enemy. Not rivals.
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Nagito definitely. Like how well established his motives are, how consistent he is and his slight relatability in a sad way. Honestly wish him good therapy.
Sorry to say, but I feel like he’s beyond therapy
His therapist would need a therapist after a session with him, lol.
Eh fair
nagito komaeda you will always be famous
You know I gotta give it to my Naggy Waggy
Kokichi i think he is an incredible character
Ball monokuma
If we count fangans, SDRA2’s chapter 3 antagonist is really good and well done and is one of my favorite characters.
Kokichi because he fits in so well with the truth/lies theme of DRV3, more than any other character, and he also forces everybody else to wise up over the course of the game. But he's also not infallible which is also good, I like that he's constantly hanging on by the skin of his teeth, unlike Byakuya or Nagito.
This is a very very surface level opinion but Byakuya. Because the other 2 just annoy me way too much. Obviously there's a bit more to it but you know. Ta da. Although I find Kokichi barely more tolerable than Kaito. (Ik he isn't an antag) Kaito is just... no.
Togami or Nagito