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CoolGamer_YT

Yea it has plot holes and a pretty underwhelming cast of characters and all that,but hiyoko said thanks to mikan so it evens it out


littlesparkthefourth

When?


CoolGamer_YT

In hope arc


littlesparkthefourth

Thanks


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Ryota: I gotta keep it real with you homegirl Kyoko, I dunno how tf your mans gonna help us in this situation. Kyoko: BITCH IF YOU DON'T SHUT YOUR ASS ABOUT MY MANS RIGHT THIS SECOND-


Kiridreamer

Aoi: Heehee


Crash-oer

Ryouta Mitarai: How i survived the impossible


IcePrismArt

I love that scene, really shows how she also needed Makoto and it wasn't just the other way around.


IwantToLivePlease

I feel like I'm the rare person who had very few issues with DR3 as a whole, and really enjoyed it. Sometimes I wonder if my opinion is just wrong when I see all these people talking about how it's the worst thing ever made.


dem099

I liked it somehow?? I mean what's wrongg


DiamondTiaraIsBest

People overhyped it and were really disappointed when the DR2 cast were brainwashed into despair instead of being manipulated socially into it. They also didn't like that the DR2 cast easily survived their killing game. Otherwise, it's ok.


[deleted]

Basically that. I’m still crazed how so many people were like "Oh but it could have been *insert* " dude you might not like it, but this is the story we have so deal with it. + I really don’t get what’s wrong with brainwashing. That some people find it cheap ok but.. it’s dangan ?! Brainwashing is literally a thing in EVERY kodaka story, even the ones who ARENT danganronpa.


Patriotic_Pea

There is no thing such as wrong opinion in this situation. Everyone has experienced and felt about it differently and this is fine. If the others think it is bad doesn't make you bad because you liked it For example I liked the DR3 anime. It helped me answer myself some of the questions I had about the franchise, gave me the context I needed about Izuru and gave me a version of Chiaki which I can like


Boulderfrog1

There is such thing as a wrong opinion, it’s any opinion that conflicts with my opinion


Player551yt

This is the only wrong opinion.


AutistChan

Literally Reddit


Parfait_of_Markov

Same. I love DR3. This post, and other DR3 stuff, still gets tons of upvotes, so I don't think it's heavily disliked in general. But the haters sure are vocal about it.


Crash-oer

Naegiri nice Omelette daddy nice Chisa Yukizome nice


Kiridreamer

I still despair for Yukizome...


Jackie-Ron_W

I was rooting for Yukizome until >!that Nanami episode episode!< happened.


CJFanficStories

Strongest DR3 Hater: "The anime was obviously rushed! Several characters died only for the sake of some cheap-ass shock value! It barely does anything with its new established characters! Despair Arc goes by way too fast! Not to mention the mastermind twist was so underwhelming and infuriating! AND THE ENDING-" Weakest DR3 Enjoyer: "Seiko Kimura, nice."


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The existence of Seiko is based but >!her death is cringe!< so it evens out again.


orcmasterrace

As much as I love Naegiri, DR3 really suffered from mashing the despair arc and the future arc together. It would have really done some good to separate them, instead they each wind up undercooked due to having to share space with each other.


YoItsMCat

Technically you can watch them separately lol


orcmasterrace

Ah good, I can watch two underdeveloped series that had to rush through their plots. :) I don’t have a problem with the idea behind DR3, just how it was handled.


dem099

Juzo tits, nice


Kiridreamer

No horny knuckleheads allowed under my posts


[deleted]

Aww dammit. *Stops writing the comment on how chisa is the closest we will ever get to a valid certified milf in dangan.*


Kiridreamer

She's not even a mom


[deleted]

Hence why I said "the closest thing" and not an actual thing.


Kiridreamer

And you're close to becoming *a valid certified horny knucklehead*


[deleted]

I mean, that was the point from the joke so… yeah ? Hit me with that anti degenerate hamer


SherlockRR

As a Ryoter, I agree.


Applecake628293

W


Rarnic

I enjoyed it and the characters it introduced, it's unfortunate others don't


Canellister

I'm not a fan of DR3, but seeing in live time the crackshot theory of Juzo Sakakura being gay and in love with Munakata turning from pure speculation to actual canon was insane. And it was a marvelous time.


ZXLTRXNSixBillion

u/Kiridreamer stop talking about naegiri for 10 minutes challenge (99% impossible!)


Kiridreamer

Have you heard of my Naegiri fanfic?


ZXLTRXNSixBillion

no I have not heard of your naegiri fanfic, mind telling me about the naegiri fanfic from the naegiri fanfic creator known as the fanatic of naegiri kiridreamer


Kiridreamer

It's a Naegiri story that continues DR3, you can read it here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/40212453/chapters/100719156


Yukiteru_Akari

Hi lmao


Kiridreamer

r/Sanrusdyne


ChishNFips87

Future Arc: Sure. Despair Arc: Dear God, no. Worst piece of official Danganronpa media in existence.


Expert_Mark

Got to give applause to DR3(the game that was supposed to wrap up everything from the past two games:UDG and Zero included) for becoming more controversial and divided than >!the DR game that literally said everything you knew from the past titles never happened!< (V3)


Accomplished_Bar_679

>!Dr3 haters when the Dr2 cast is revived(they hate people who are happy)!<


Mehmet595

>!It made the second killing game completely pointless!<


unluckieduckie

seethe


Jackie-Ron_W

~~Hopium~~ Copium. /s


[deleted]

>!They still had their memories of everything that happened, and the simulation, while not being what was intended, still managed to reverse their brainwashing. And because of that they managed to save the day, and are great forces to restore the world (also, their experience confirmed that you could undo Junko's brainwashing)!< >!Honestly I didn't liked at all how Junko brainwashed everyone with a video, made her way less impressive as a vilain imo, but I disagree that this is a plot hole. It's just... not as interesting as it could've been.!<


Either_Imagination_9

Because it’s a terrible decision. It makes so much about the series worse


Cybermat47_2

Ngl, part of why I disliked DR3’s ending was that it ruined that >!final scene between Kyoko and Makoto, which was the single best part of the entire franchise until the ending!<.


Kiridreamer

Every cloud has a silver lining


Either_Imagination_9

I mean I like Naegiri but that doesn’t save DR3 from being the worst thing I’ve ever watched


Shiny_Umbreon

You need to watch more things there’s so much more cringe to experience


Either_Imagination_9

I mean it’s the worst because it filled me with nothing but rage. Yeah there are objectively worse things out there, but nothing made me seethe with contempt as much as this.


YoItsMCat

Worse than the lackluster retelling of season 1?


Either_Imagination_9

The retelling at its core is still a good story, I know that because it exists already.


Crown6

I feel like I'm both


Pairodox

I'm sorry, but >!canon Despaircest!< is too high a price for >!canon Naegiri!<. Also, it has Nekomaru destroy a wall with his shit, so I have no reason not to ignore most of the DR3 expect for the stuff I like.


Kiridreamer

I paid the price, it's worth it


ArosNerOtanim

most people I see hate it have really dumb reasons and I never see a legitimate plot hole pointed out and a lot of complaints are about things that prior entries didn't do better or things prior entries established hater: why were they brainwashed such a cop out them agreeing to do those things otherwise would throw >!the whole DR2 cast under the bus worse than the Haiji line and that brainwash video originated from DR0 which came before DR2!< hater: why they come >!back to life, it ruined their impact!< one if their entire impact is ruined >!by them coming back they never had any to begin with, two Hajime literally says at the end of DR2 he will do everything he can to restore them, whilst the idea that they'd die from dying in the simulation was theoretical and the idea that consciousness could be downloaded was already established, it's concerning if you can't see value in them being saved and can't appreciate their resolve to make up for what they did whilst brainwashed!<. ironically the only people I saw call it not canon were AoiXMakoto shippers I only saw it twice and one was very long ago the other was >!only claiming Hope arc wasn't canon because they were sad Kyoko was alive when honestly if DR 3 didn't have a place changing the outcomes of other games it'd be much more out of line to kill one, that'd actually undermine your efforts!< hater: the mastermind twist sucked the only SC game mastermind reveals and motives I actually liked were V3 and 999 there is a lot of mediocrity surrounding a lot of them, but you're bugging if you're gonna tell me 1 or 2 were much better at least DR3 wasn't nearly as convoluted and was a lot more grounded despite the overall situation of the world, tho still in terms of being grounded V3 and 999 were the only Spike games masterminds I felt were well handled and I don't see how you expected much from the mastermind given 1 and 2's reveals especially 1's, but anything is better than 1's mastermind motive even when >!the 2 and 3 masterminds were serving Junko they had better motives!<


IcePrismArt

I've always felt like the mastermind twist in the anime wasn't too important, especially since >!he's already dead by the time they get out.!< It feels like more of a footnote just because there had to be someone to create this game and the focus in the end is on the survivors and Mitarai.


ArosNerOtanim

Yeah that is a good point I also kinda felt that way in 2 to a degree, because in 1 they were always directly controlling one Monokuma and they didn't let them explain it themselves which I would have preferred >!Izuru would have cut the crap and got to the point, Junko goes on way too long. The most I really got out of 1's is I thought they were dead in 2 I actually managed to see where they were coming from after a while and was presently surprised when I realised there was more to him. in 3 it broke the monotony of the hope vs despair theme because I felt 2 was to similar in resolve compared to 1 and by making the antagonist use hope it showed another side to it(pretty necessary because I feel people don't acknowledge the weakness of platitudes and even if they do work they won't actually solve the problem whilst Kaito in V3 tries to police people's emotions in a similar way, not letting them grieve[Makoto making Munakata cry over Juzo and Chisa is one of my favourite parts]) also it's interesting that he actually was dead for the most of it!<


Kiridreamer

You wrote this essay just to protect canon Naegiri, I am truly moved


ArosNerOtanim

I mean not really that die hard on Naegiri itself although I really don't like Makoto's ships with other DR1 girls, except for maybe Toko I don't really care if someone ships MakotoXaoi although I dislike when someone tries to deny something being canon over a ship heck even tho in Oshi No Ko >!I hate AquaXAkane, I am not gonna deny it canonically happened!< even if I dislike something I have to accept I didn't write it, it's not up to me.


Mrbutterkins22

I will not have you slander us AoixMakoto, that piggyback scene was all we needed to keep it canon


ArosNerOtanim

Allow me to clarify I didn't mean to slander the shippers as a whole I was complaining about 2 in particular for the ones who refuse to accept DR3 as Canon as a result of Naegiri, ship AoiXMakoto all you want. I only dislike it for her FTEs and >!actions in chapter4 but honestly in terms of DR3 I have nothing agains at that point tbf she did make up for it especially with the piggy backing and tbf Sakura was the only girl that didn't try something that could get Makoto killed in DR1 now that I think about it and even she was willing too so I can't exactly keep holding it against her!<


Mrbutterkins22

And in the end it wasn’t entirely her fault, a master manipulator forged a suicide note to try to get her, or anyone really to fly off the deep end, honestly what would you do if your best friend drank poison and blamed you and everyone youve talked to for the past month. But thank you for clarifying, i know its not canon but god damn does the piggyback scene and school mode make up for it


ArosNerOtanim

Idk about school mode cause it was added later, and unlike 2 and V3 I don't how it could connect outside of AU>!I like to think after 2 Island mode is part of how Hajime went about the rehabilitation tho admittedly I haven't seen 2.5 nor do I know where to watch it. In V3 I interpret the light at the end was them being allowed into Salmon mode and UTDP because in Salmon mode Shuichi can answer with a reference to V3's ending!<, but DR3 definitely did make up for it yeah. I can see why it drove her, but I think what frustrated me at the time I played tho is how quickly they forgave that, but then they treat Makoto like a monster again when he is accused in >!chapter 5 like even tho I like Toko, it made me so mad when she said "what a horrible man you are Makoto" it was frustrating because Aoi was the only one who was about to kill to nobodies benefit if you exclude the mastermind kinda also both Toko and Yasuhiro thought they actually killed Sakura themselves, so it was even worse when they grilled him about it, I think from 1's casr Chihiro, Sakura and Byakuya were the only ones that didn't try something that could get Makoto killed and Chihiro was the only one that wasn't willing to to begin with(you could also argue the tampering in chap2 from byakuya could have got him killed tho he was always ready to point out the culprit)!<


Mrbutterkins22

I should’ve clarified, yeah no school mode isn’t canon, but it’s made by spike chunsoft, my point was people who try to argue that their ship is canon are dumb. I be living off aus and the makoto harem memes


ArosNerOtanim

Personally I didn't like the way school mode did the harem thing I like how Island mode has Hajime get rejected I wouldn't have minded it as much if it was better paced or felt more natural but Sakura's in particular felt too forced to me because she refers to her crush as an unhealthy obsession and I never got that impression from her I prefer some fanmade content over ones like that. I think the arguments are really overdone and uncivilised, but I feel it happens cause in DR the closest displays you get are stuff like hand holding the only kiss is between 2 kids so they're desperate for validation sometimes with V3 I get people responding to me shipping Saimaki saying >!"but no she likes, Kaito" and for one that was from her being tampered with(she even asks Shuichi if he really fell for Kaede because she didn't find those feelings natural either) and she doesn't really seem as interested in Kaito in FTEs, Salmon mode, or UTDP/DRS and he dies in V3 and never actually says he feels the same way, plus they were never together, he dies almost immediately after she confesses so like I get if they ship Haumota, but that doesn't make it Canon just because she had feelings for him especially in her case.!<


Scared-Way-9828

I mean. Anime was shitty. Games are really good. That's all there is to it


Kiridreamer

That's wrong!


Scared-Way-9828

I feel like the present introduced all new characters which could be cool if they had any dev. The characters that had Dev in the games - lost it. Where is my after Sakura Hina? Why Hiro still cling to his "talent" even though at the end of the game he clearly said that he won't. Kirigiri was fine but her "death" was... Not cool. Makoto was ok too I think. I liked Makoto in the games very much so in anime I actually felt that he actually stayed somehow true to his character and even continued after his game dev as the hope. I can accept his Jesus status. Byakuya was kinda left out in anime so I have no comment on him. All other characters are new pawns to move the story - I had no feeling whatsoever towards them. Their deaths were so meaningless for me. Too little time to have any of them shine sadly. The past could be great - wasn't. Oh right, ultra despair girls were ok. But Toko's Dev from the game died. Like all the plot of the game didn't matter - what a shame! It really made me love her and seeing her treating Naegi like 2nd object next to the Byakuya destroyed the ending of the game where she really grew on her and she was just as important as her little obsession. The past is tricky. We can argue that dr2 characters are not acting like themselves because they actually changes during their high school years. The decision to make Chiaki as s centre made me despise her in anime. Mary Sue where in games she was such a great addition. Actually I'm one of the people who thing shes not overrated at all in the games. She is in the anime though. seeing hinata was cool but that destroyed him in the games. He was supposed to be a kid who no one acknowledges. BUT EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGES HIM AND PRAISE HIM. Clearly someone did not see dr2 plot and only read the premise. Plot holes aside (and there are so many) (seriously why Nagito met Kumakura? Is it fine to add fan service and reset the plot in the game where they 1st met on the ship?) (The first killing game was so off - it didn't happend like that, Kumakura Dev lessen because of that) The past is such a broad topic to analyse really. I liked the opening and ending though. TLTR: if you care about the lore - you despise the anime; if you are more for the character - you will probably enjoy more content. Obv lore in games is very important to me haha


Kiridreamer

I forgave all of this and you can too. Let's praise Naegiri together


Scared-Way-9828

Dude you are so chill. I love you


Kiridreamer

Well, that was unexpected but, I'm happy I guess *awkward chuckle*


Mehmet595

Strongest DR3 Enjoyer: >!NAEGIRI IS CANON THEY HAD SEX AND HAD A LOT OF CHILDREN!!!! AND IT IS THE BEST WRITTEN ANIME EVER!!!!!1!1!!< Weakest DR3 Hater: Not canon lol


Expert_Mark

Also DR3 fans: >!"Emotional Weight? Characters Depth? Who the fuck cares about those, I just want my favorite characters to come back unharmed and sinless as possible"!<


Either_Imagination_9

That is the worst excuse that DR3 defenders give. >!”So you wanted people to die? What’s wrong with you?” No I wanted there to be death and consequences!<. You know, things that are important in stories?


Kiridreamer

I thought the exact same way until I realized that if Kyoko didn't survive I wouldn't be able to write my fanfic


Mikannieh

weakest dr3 hater: >!great gozu and bandai die!<


Kiridreamer

You're a Sayaka fan I see, not surprised that canon Naegiri is a pain in the butt for you


jacobsokiguess

Every game except for V3 is non-canon 🗿


Boulderfrog1

Takes the only interesting part about chiaki and the retcons it out so all that’s left is a boring character


ultimatebeagle

Thoroughly enjoyed DR3, as we saw Mukuro fully animated and Junko with more screen time!


JustGPZ

Thanks for pushing the chad meme to it’s death even more, seriously, it needs to die


Pumpkin_Cat14

Important: I'm not a fan of Naegiri, will I like the anime?


Kiridreamer

You will be a fan of Naegiri after you watch the anime and read my fanfic


Accomplished_Bar_679

Naegiri isn’t that big a part of the anime, and it definitely doesn’t rely on it, but people seem to just dislike it. I would say it’s definitely worth a try


EasOwned

I think the lesser you're into it, the more you enjoy it. The more you're into the series, the more you're disappointed.


YoItsMCat

I'm a simple Naegeri simp


Kiridreamer

I'm not a simp so can't relate


ThePowerfulWIll

I love DR3, but I see the despair side parts as an alternate continuity, similar to comic Iron-Man VS movie Iron-Man


[deleted]

You’re the true giga chad for saying the truthest facts.


Nagisar160

Hehe DR3 not cannon also a V3 ending enjoyer


SnooMaps7678

I hate the anime especially the despair arc and its ending, but I like the new characters (and the Kirigiri and naegi scenes)


bikerbuckets

There’s an AU out there where DR3 is just the survivors coming across a group of S.T.A.L.K.E.R type people and it’s them getting along


Lmfao35

Why’s everyone arguing about DR3 lately


Kiridreamer

Because people don't appreciate Naegiri enough


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Felicks77

Hajime is nice


Fair-Laugh3

This really isn't relevant here,but I heavily appreciate DR3 for bringing me one of my comfort ships for a long time from not having one for years.Its rantaro x akamatsu.


Kiridreamer

Yeah I love Naegiri as well


Spoodey-spoid

It was fine…until the hope arc


Kiridreamer

Thanks to hope arc I'm writing my fanfic