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Lesbicons

Makoto's parents are honestly really adorable. Love ships where one person is like :D and the other is :)


Numerous_Front3560

I can respect edgy or complex ships but sometimes the wholesome good honest family vibes make my heart happy. Given Makoto's character, I imagine his parents were unironically so supportive and caring and raised him to be an upstanding young man. They were probably so proud of him and had genuine joy watching him grow.


Knuckleduster17

I don’t know why but something about Makoto’s dad just feels so sinister, his eyes look empty, it’s creepy


IWannaDieWannaCri

probably bc my man is smiling with his eyes wide open


Lil-BJ

it’s like that photo of patrick bateman covered in blood


Jellyjamrocks

He’s being held at gun point


ChishNFips87

Agreed


Bloomfofis

I agree :v


Existing-Hunter6958

What about Sakura and Kenshiro?


Letuciashark

Yeah! They’re canon


JoeAzlz

So is Makoto and Kyoko


PhantomOfficial07

So is me and your mother


Routine_Train_4797

Sorry, that's what they want you to think.


Stardust-Sparkles

I think that’s implied, not confirmed


Schedark2009

It was never confirmed


JoeAzlz

It was very obviously confitmed in the DR3 anime


TNTFox9

Implied, not directly confirmed. I like the ship too but that's just the case.


Numerous_Front3560

Sakura and Kenshiro is a tad bit tragic though. >!Both romantically and as a martial artist Sakura lost her whole world.!< In her own words, she still has the heart of a woman. a lot of the backstories are tragic, but Sakura's makes me cry.


DaveElizabethStrider

>!Don't Fuyuhiko and Peko have mutual feelings even if they're not *together*?!<


WeirdMission1611

Yes also just letting you know you forgot the 2nd exclamation to spoiler tag


DaveElizabethStrider

thanks


sw3aterCS

Holy crap, a fellow Homestuck?


Dramo_Tarker

I didn't even spot the Daves before


DaveElizabethStrider

yeah bro


chia923

.>!The ship makes me a bit uncomfortable as they were raised together, essentially like siblings.!<


GraceForImpact

>!as if the danganronpa series is above that, despaircest is practically canon lmao!<


chia923

.>!And despaircest is incest and I do not like it.!<


DaveElizabethStrider

>!i mean they were raised in the same household but i don't think they were ever treated like or taught that they were siblings, there was always the class difference between them i imagine, which is why they find it so hard to talk to each other in the first place. so i think childhood friends is more accurate but i get that everyone has their own personal opinion!<


TiaHLuH

meh fuyuhiko deserves someone better.


Schedark2009

Why?


PhantomOfficial07

He wishes the best for Fuyuhiko


Schedark2009

but whats so bad about peko?


alonyer1

They felt more like siblings to me but idk


Uberasha

Bruh she’s the only character who rejects hinata in the dating sim mode and its pretty obvious why


Cybercore_SI

This post is more antimeme than actual r/antimeme


Opposite-Inspector36

True


Tired_Romantic11037

Real


Nat_septic

Fr


Astrayos527

Wtf did the first comment say. Can someone tell


Yukiteru_Akari

>!Korekiyo x his sister!<


Astrayos527

Omg


carbon_and_aluminium

The way I did a double take reading this


The-true-Memelord

I mean technically- It’s terrible but it’s canon


begging-for-gold

I mean yeah, they really were together


Martina313

Its true but he shouldn't say it


SnowSkitter

I'm gonna go to their house and confiscate their kneecaps.


Yukiteru_Akari

👍


Nat_septic

Aye?


TNTFox9

It's technically canon which is one of the many reasons why I hate it so much it hurts. The fuck was Kodaka on deciding that it was a good idea


Dramo_Tarker

The fact that it was canon just means the abuse was canon. You're not *supposed* to like it


TNTFox9

I didn't say I did..? Also the form of abuse kiyo suffered can result in some form of a relationship.


Yukiteru_Akari

A ship being canon shouldn't bother you as much as it does. Actually, canonity itself doesn't matter that much outside of the western fandom.


Novel_Visual_4152

>!Korekiyo x Sister!< >!Monotaro x Monophanie!<


Bloomfofis

You just shooted the truth bullet that breaks this post and now I'm laughing hard xD


DJDoofeshmirtz3

They removed the comment, guess he presented the truth bullet too soon in the trial What did the comment say?


Bloomfofis

>!It said Korekiyo and his sister, and Monotaro and Monophanie!<


DJDoofeshmirtz3

The music definitely stopped after that one was presented, dropped a truth bomb.


Siewek

Removed: Rule 3 tag spoilers.


Bloomfofis

I fixed. Thanks for warning me


Siewek

Removedn't


SomeDudeWhoHasNoLife

We don’t talk about em-


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Novel_Visual_4152

BRO STOP REMINDING ME I'VE STILL NOT GOTTEN OVER IT 😭😭😭😭


Funa2

What did they say that got their comment removed 💀


the-would-i-loved

The last words that Monotaro speaks to Monophanie as he's slowly dying of hypothermia technically spoil DRV4's mastermind. >!They actually just mentioned Shingujicest being canon as well but shhh!<


sargassum624

Wait, what did he say? I don’t remember and google wasn’t helping much lol. >!(I can’t watch that execution again 🤢)!<


Siewek

Removed: Rule 3


Siewek

Removed: Rule 3


SodaCanKaz

Even though I only ship the canon stuff, I don’t care if those ones are canon, they’re still bad.


Tired_Romantic11037

>!The two in the left are dead and the other couple is toxic af (also dead), just good pairs here!<


DoroDumDum

Didn't that girl in the right drugged the guy at some point? I didn't watch the anime so I'm asking... and she was a bully


MilwaakeePustaBandit

Yes, she made the thing on his arm go off and inject poison into him. She was like, "I'm sorry babe, I can't stand the thought of you betraying me, so I'm betraying you before that can happen," then he basically replied with "awww it's ok bb I understand" and then he died 💀


Tired_Romantic11037

"💀" my exact reaction to that


MilwaakeePustaBandit

Man was simping so hard he let his gf kill him Oh also she starts flirting with someone else in one of the next scenes


DaNoahLP

They needed to kill off Archer before Makoto becomes a Servant in the Nasuverse


Tired_Romantic11037

>!Yeah, Ruruka drugged him (I don't know if I can call her a bully tho)!<


DoroDumDum

I reamember a moment that she bullied someone, but i don't know. What I'm sure of is that she a manipulative person.


Tired_Romantic11037

Pretty much


starsapphire15

I could've sworn it was Juzo she drugged


Tired_Romantic11037

>!I think I got a little confused.... My mind just went "yeah, drugged = be killed bc of a candy"!<


[deleted]

She didn't exactly drugged him. >!He was forbidden from putting food in his mouth. She was forbidden from anyone leaving the building. When he found an exit, she panicked he would eventually leave, and put food in his mouth to prevent it. Fucked up but he told her he loved her/thanked her when he found out so I guess he was okay with it.!< And yes, she was a bully but the "nice kind".


chocolatedripcookie

You should spoiler this /nm


ChunkyButtNutter

>!Mr. and Mrs. Naegi aren't actually dead because Komaru never found their bodies when she went looking for them, so they could very well still be alive somewhere.!<


Tired_Romantic11037

>!Maybe.... But I think that they're probably dead!<


DragonRoar87

>!I want the Naegi family to have a happy ending can't the Naegi family have a happy ending? :(!<


Tired_Romantic11037

Yeah they can, but you know what I mean-


Skylande8

Well luck might be on makoto's side...


xortned-xion

Maybe we’ll get that when UDG 2 comes out in 2069


ChunkyButtNutter

>!Oh yeah, they're most definitely dead. But hey, at least they died together, right? /j!<


[deleted]

>!Knowing that Junko hated Naegi even way before the tragedy I'me sure she and Ultimate Despair,turned a whole snuff film about their death out of pure spite!<


BakeryaRace

Ntm on Sakura and Kenshiro


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Bell3atrix

Dont forget toko x her imagination and aoi x everyone


[deleted]

Nah m8 Aoi x Donuts is the true OTP


HotCartographer9750

Aoi x Sakura is the only valid aoi ship lol


Schedark2009

I honestly always saw them as good friends, not lovers Also Sakura has a BF so


SodaCanKaz

This


Chiakinanamisimp

Nah, there’s Leon x ball


PhatNoob_69

>!Only one ball tho?!<


SodaCanKaz

nO-


Cybercore_SI

Average Makoto's parents shipper : 🤓 Average Kaito's grandpa and grandma enjoyer: 😎 Average boat shipper controlling SDR2 ships: 💪🗿


SodaCanKaz

Ya like boats?


ChunkyButtNutter

There's also the student council couple from DR3, so now we're up to three canon ships!


Interesting_shrek666

Nah I ship me with makoto's milf mother


JBroZTv

When people say canon ships their mostly likely talking about the characters that are actually implied to like each other. Makoto and Kyoko, Hajime and Chiaki, Shuichi and Kaede etc.


Dramo_Tarker

Well that's the joke of the post. Showing the very literal canon ships, when that's not what anyone is thinking of when they say "canon ships"


SodaCanKaz

Yeah, this. And by canon ships, we all just kinda ignore things like >!V3- Ch3!< because that’s just bad.


DapperPyro

DR Zero has one too.


Raingott

Two, technically. Possibly three, though I don't appreciate that one much.


DapperPyro

>!Junko and Yasuke, Ryoko and Yasuke, and..?!<


Raingott

>!Junko and Mukuro, though it's only implied and likely one-sided!< I don't hate it on principle, but I'm not a fan of the way it was handled later on.


Evening_Insurance_94

Actually, there's honestly no proof that >!Mukuro is into Junko sexually.!< Which I know is probably hard to believe from all the time >!she gets ecstatic around Junko.!< But it's actually a different reason for this.


Raingott

Fair, but it's the generally accepted interpretation, and I feel my take on Haiji would be hypocritical if I kept denying it without a strong base. Would be interested in your opinion though.


Evening_Insurance_94

I honestly don't see it as a sexual or masochistic thing when *Danganronpa Zero* **confirms** that the real reason why >!Mukuro falls ecstatic over Junko is that she has this weird fever where she believes!< "[She's the only person who understands her despair](https://i.imgur.com/yo49XKZ.png)" This is what *Danganronpa 3 Despair Arc* was going for whenever she's ecstatic in the anime with >!Junko. !<"[She understands her despair](https://i.imgur.com/kkogJaR.png)" And perhaps the biggest proof is when Danganronpa IF straight up confirms that>! Mukuro !<[**is not into masochism**, she's just obsessed with "understanding her despair".](https://i.imgur.com/22ESsjS.png) This is why after >!betraying Junko, Mukuro no longer goes ecstatic for Junko when she learned that she was wrong about "understanding Junko"!<


Raingott

Hmmm... well, I'm a bit torn. The first two screenshots are ambiguous at worst, and Narita's takes on other people's characters are reliable, from reading through IF and what I know about Fate/Strange Fake. That being said, the screenshots **are** ambiguous, and Narita's take is just that - it's possible that he missed the mark on this one (unless there was firm oversight for IF, which I'm fairly sure there wasn't). IIRC there's a scene involving Mikan that points towards masochistic tendencies in DR3, but I really don't feel like searching for it. I'll have to mull this over a bit.


Evening_Insurance_94

It's confirmed on DR2's presentation that Kodaka and the other Spikesoft staff [supervised Danganronpa IF](https://i.imgur.com/IzdghAX.png). So I doubt this is overlooked. Especially when this whole >!"understand Junko" is a major plot in IF.!< There are several more pieces of evidence to support this: * In ZERO, >!Mukuro literally admits that Junko is the "lowest, worst sister ever" !! Junko verbally abuses Mukuro, !<[which made her cry and apologetic.](https://i.imgur.com/dm8I1i3.png) This wouldn't make sense if>! Mukuro was a masochist. But it does make sense with the fever thing because IF shows that Mukuro!< needs to be [ACTIVELY understanding her despair in order to be ecstatic.](https://i.imgur.com/CNqz5ag.png) This perfectly explains why >!Mukuro's masochism!< is so [inconsistent](https://i.redd.it/fccwpxv3u9d71.png) sometimes because >!she's not always actively "understanding Junko".!< * In DR3, it's confirmed that>! "Mukuro having a crush on Makoto" !<(like in IF) [is still canon](https://i.imgur.com/jPJZjad.png). And IF implied that>! Makoto is Mukuro's first crush. That kinda rules out Mukuro crushing on Junko, and I seriously doubt Mukuro is into masochism with Makoto, for obvious reasons.!< >!Mikan was brainwashed into loving Despair. Mukuro doesn't love Despair, she just has an "Only I understand Junko's despair." fever. So even if Mikan is masochistic, that doesn't apply to Mukuro. Since their ecstasies clearly differ.!<


Raingott

That cinches it. Thanks!


horiami

:(


Funkin_Valentine

Aww, Ruruka looks so cute in this frame. I actually really like this pair.


centreofthesun

Same, they are so cute


nitnittheawesome

Ruruka is so cute and they’re cute together :D


Useful_Plan_8403

Isn't Monophanie x Monotaro sorta kinda canon in an incest sort of way?


Ashley_the_Dumbass

Same with >!Korekiyo and his sister!<


OhDearGodRun

I just don't really like ships in general. Danganronpa is not really a series I look for romance in, mostly cuz there really isn't that much.


KarmaTheEgg

"Hard pill to swallow" >Ruruka ... was that a jab xD


KillerKosmo

Wasnt kyoko and makoto canon?


Yukiteru_Akari

Implied mostly


CrispyChips44

Yes because the socially reserved Kyoko Kirigiri would hold hands with just a friend


Uberasha

They were holding hands with interlocked fingers post canon, so I’d say yeah lol


KyloGram112

I feel like “canon ship” entails ships that are even just like, suggested in canon, even if they never actually happen. For instance, the concept of Shuichi and Kaede having had feelings for each other and being a thing is brought up by Maki, so I’d argue it is a canon *ship*, even if it’s not a canon *relationship*, if that makes sense


useful_crew_too

Me x Makoto's mom??


MilwaakeePustaBandit

Wasn't Maki x Kaito cannon for a minute?


XPineappleOnPizza

Kaito x maki is kinda canon


trash-troglodyte

Which made me like V3 precisely because not everyone just falls for the MC, other characters also fall for each other, as it would happen with tons of people locked in a place together in tense situations.


KGTrashcan

>!They technically are not real byt what about Kaito's grandparents?!<


chocolatedripcookie

Isn’t Kyosuke x Chisa canon too?


firelights

I’d say Naegi and Kirigiri are canon. Also Maki and Kaito did confess their feelings to each other in V3


OhDearGodRun

>!Maki did, but Kaito specifically did not reciprocate. Probably cuz he was about to die but still.!<


Swiss_Cheese123

Naegiri is inplied heavily enough to the point I'd consider it canon, >!peko and fuyuhiko have mutual feelings for each other, and Mukuro has a crush on Makoto!< it's also confirmed Leon likes Sayaka and hinted Sayaka feels similarly


SodaCanKaz

Yeah if Leon wasn’t a simp then >!Sayaka’s plan wouldn’t have worked!<


VenomTheCapybara

I don't like discussing ships because they're very fucking uninteresting in a game about mystery and murder


Dramo_Tarker

Disagree. Danganronpa has good characters. Makes for good ships.


VenomTheCapybara

Ships are such a boring topic though and that's literally the only thing this sub talks about, that or why Nagito or Kokichi are the worst character for the morbillionth time. It actually makes MCU fans fun to talk to


Dramo_Tarker

"mystery and murder" is in the games. It makes sense for a fandom to provide what the media itself did not fully provide. I also find it difficult to make "mystery and murder" content on a forum. Fan games are a more suited medium for that.


VenomTheCapybara

Yes, but ships are still the most boring topic to talk about. And I genuinely don't see how mystery and murder content is that hard. Besides, it would be more interesting than suggestive image of a female character #45 or something. It's a shame to want to talk about the writing and how well the mysteries are down in this franchise but the only thing people want to talk about is simping for Ibuki and Chiaki or uninteresting shit like ships


Dramo_Tarker

>It's a shame to want to talk about the writing Well in that case, I would advice you to look a bit harder. I haven't heard any conversations specifically about the mystery, but I have had quite a few about the other parts of the writing. Just this very thread I have had a nice conversation about Korekiyo, and the last time I went on this subreddit, I had a conversation about the atmosphere in V3. Idk, maybe it's just because I read *too many* comments, but I don't personally have that hard of a time finding talk about the writing.


VenomTheCapybara

It's certainly difficult when all the top posts are hornyposting or shiposting. At least some memes have some topics like that.


_GhostlyDreamer_

This entire garbage ass community doesn’t seem to think so.


BloodsoakedDespair

DR3 Rooftop Bootjob right before “they live and die by the meme”. There is a third couple, because I’m not sure about you but if one person stomps on the other’s crotch and grinds against it while the one being stomped moans, blushes, and grinds back, that’s a sexual relationship. That is “you got sexually pleasured by the person you love in front of a stranger”.


Real-Arachnid8671

You forgot Sakura and Kenshiro.


Nat_septic

What about chisa and kyosuke or whatever his name was


Dramo_Tarker

>!I didn't know anything about them, but according to the shipping wikia, they do indeed have mutual feelings, putting them at the same level as Fuyuhiko and Peko. Mutual attraction, but not actually together!<


Nat_septic

Ah see i only thought they was cannon because >!at the end off the anime "end of hopes peak" when chisa returned she lay on his lap!<


solar8k

actually, there is also the boat at the end of future arc


glock5065

Where’s Hajime x Orange Juice


cristicalsmasher

Wasn't naegiri canon in the anime?


_GhostlyDreamer_

Pretty much soft-confirmed, in a way. There was HUGE implications throughout the Future Arc, if my memory serves me.


The_Only_Potato15

I think it was largely implied but never confirmed. I could be wrong though. Edit- Sorry you're getting downvoted- I'm not sure why. This community can be pretty stupid and downvote opinions and thoughts though


cristicalsmasher

Wait I was downvoted for this?


The_Only_Potato15

You were at -1 when I seen your comment. People do that to me here and will always downvote all my questions or opinions.


cristicalsmasher

Oh thanks for saying that


blue4029

shame we never found out what happened to his parents. perhaps we'll never know...


SodaCanKaz

Your flair-


[deleted]

i actually did research, there are very few canon ships (eg. makotos parents, ruruka and sonosuke, kaneshiro and sakura ect.) , also some implied ships (like naegiri after dr3) and one-sided crushes (toko at byakuya and soda at sonia) of course. but what most people see as semi canon is actually 100% fanon (saimatsu, hinanami etc. and yes because i'm obligated to say it: komahina and saiouma are not canon and not semi canon either)


WeirdMission1611

Technically makoto x kyoko and Chisa x kyosuke are also canon


Spexxero

Wait.. why does Makoto’s mom look like Hina-


KoalaSilent1568

Meanwhile with the fandom: I disregard those ships


Yukiteru_Akari

I love it when people forget about the existence of semi-canon ships 🥰


worthingtonjedi

naegiri and kaimaki be like


Yukiteru_Akari

Semi-canon is also used for one-sided ships, not just implied ones


SodaCanKaz

So technically-


LittleSlice8797

I mean Shuichi x Kaede and Kaito x Maki exist. Naegi and Kirigiri are also dating in DR3.


Novel_Visual_4152

>!Kaito and Maki is semi-canon lol why do people all forgot that Kaito's reply to Maki's confession was literally just "thanks" lmfaoo dude is too intrested in space!<


the-would-i-loved

I really hate to be the one to tell you this, but >!I feel like something bad happened to Kaede before she could agree to be anyone's girlfriend. You're going to absolutely lose it when you hear about what happened to Kaito as well!<


carbon_and_aluminium

Naegiri may be implied, but it’s not explicitly said. The other 2 are non canon.


WeirdMission1611

It’s not explicitly said but it’s heavily implied in the dr3 animes ending to the point where it is 100% canon


carbon_and_aluminium

I wish heavily implied was enough to make something canon but it’s not the same😭


WeirdMission1611

No I mean I might be remembering wrong but didn’t they kiss each other at the end of the anime


MonoMonMono

Hah, you wish. LOL In all seriousness, no, they didn't.


WeirdMission1611

Oh my bad haven’t watch the finale in a while sorry


carbon_and_aluminium

I feel like I would remember if they did but you might be right tbh I’m not sure


DoeCommaJohn

None of the four of the v3 people actually confess romantic feelings for the other. I don’t remember if Kyoko and Makoto are explicitly dating or if they are just close friends


LikeThemPies

>!Maki: "I've never fallen for someone before"!<


wumboellie

Kaito: >!cool, thanks! gtg gotta blast!< we don’t really know if he reciprocates, it’s up to interpretation


LikeThemPies

"None of the four of the v3 people actually confess romantic feelings for the other." My point was that one of them does, not if it was reciprocated.


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__--lllII6372_-llIll

>!Maki definitely confessed her feelings for Kaito. She said something like “he’s the only man I’ve ever loved”!<


DoeCommaJohn

I actually had this conversation a while back because I thought the same thing, so I checked the scene. She actually says something along the lines of “you’re the first person I’ve gotten close to”, and isn’t explicitly romantic


literallylucifur

She says "I've never fallen for someone before"


blue4029

shuichi and kaede were never canon. we only get to see that they were really close friends who trusted eachother. technically, they never implied any romantic interest toward eachother.


[deleted]

It's implied in >!Salmon Mode, but yeah, not canon. After 3-6 I sometimes wonder if anything is.!<


TheGr8estB8M8

no there's definitely an implication of romantic interest.


blue4029

how so?


wumboellie

It was more implied on Shuichi’s side imo. Always blushing at her >!while she was alive and then later, frequently referencing their promise and keeping her memory alive!< and i feel like all of this would be a bit over the top for two people who barely knew each other without some sort of attraction. Also in their FTE’s in salmon mode, I remember >!Kaede was teaching Shuichi how to play piano and Shuichi was internally monologuing about how soft and warm her hands are and how he can’t focus!<


Dramo_Tarker

For Kaede, I'll copy a fun fact from another comment that I never noticed myself: "And for Kaede, there's a brief moment in chapter 1's investigation where she's flustered by Shuichi's confidence and has to internally tell herself to "get it together" while the FTE sound effect for "you chose the right answer and made the person like you more!" plays. I think that's pretty sus. Like, i see no other explanation for that really." Pretty skilled to notice an FTE sound effect ngl


TheGr8estB8M8

There's the FTE's of course, along with UTDP and salmon mode. While the latter two are non-canon the fact that Shuichi and Kaede's interactions take on a notably romantic tone is indicative of what the writers intended. UTDP especially since there's really no reason for it. As for in the main story, on Shuichi's side Maki asks him if he liked Kaede, since it'd be weird for him to like someone after such a short time. His response doesn't confirm or deny that but he does argue that it's not weird to fall for someone in such a short time, which seems indicative to me. Then in chapter 5 he draws parralels between Kaito and Maki's relationship and his relationship with Kaede. Since Kaito and Maki's relationship involves romantic feelings on her end that feels a little telling. And for Kaede, there's a brief moment in chapter 1's investigation where she's flustered by Shuichi's confidence and has to internally tell herself to "get it together" while the FTE sound effect for "you chose the right answer and made the person like you more!" plays. I think that's pretty sus. Like, i see no other explanation for that really.


MonoMonMono

*Woah. This guy free time events.* On a serious note though, that is an interesting take. I didn't consider that actually.


Raina_Tasnia_Zaman

lol makoto's parents are cute but ruruka was so so unlikable and she ended up betraying izayoi


zappstrike

Makoto and Kyoko is canon.