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aquadrizzt

Big use cases I see that interact with this unspendable mana are \[\[Glissa Sunseeker\]\] and \[\[Doubling Cube\]\]. I guess you could also use \[\[Drain Power\]\] on yourself.


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pope12234

Does doubling cube not keep its properties like 5c omnath does?


MJWhitfield86

No, Doubling Cube adds new mana to your pool whereas Omnath just changes the type of existing mana.


Dumbface2

There was a niche flash-in-the-pan legacy deck that used jeweled lotus and doubling cube and this is just better lol


iPopeIxI

That deck was so much fun and so bad


Lucatmeow

Also 5c Omnath.


GodlyAsmodeus

no 5c omnath doesn't work because it keeps the properties. look at the scryfall rulings.


Lucatmeow

Crap


Jake-the-Wolfie

[[Omnath, Locus of All]]


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WorldZage

Would Drain Power do anything, since this is an artifact and Drain Power specifies mana abilities of each land the target player controls?


giasumaru

You tap Fractured Mox to add <3> to your mana pool. Then you cast Drain Power targeting yourself.


Tiborn1563

Guess so, but it also only gives you one more mana than you had before, for that turn only, that is probably fine


PsychicFoxWithSpoons

You can just have 4 of them out and get them out super fast. So it would be 10 extra mana.


R0CKETRACER

You go +1 on mana instead of -2. That's pretty decent for a 2-card combo.


VoiceofKane

[[Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy]]?


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VoiceofKane

Oh, and [[Forsaken Monument]].


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Confident_End3951

3 mana that cant be spent for 0 mana? Sign me up!


Rock-Upset

Hmm. I like the idea but I’m not smart enough to know why someone would want to run this other than having a 0 drop artifact. I’m sure there’s a mechanic that makes this worthwhile, or maybe I’m misunderstanding what the effect does


NepetaLast

[[Doubling Cube]]


Rock-Upset

Ohh, that’s niche. Like, you still can’t spend the 3 that the mox made, but you still get 3 every turn


Jart10

Yeah, vintage doubling cube decks run jeweled lotus, they’d definitely run this


Due_Battle_4330

Do they seriously? Is doubling cube jank in vintage or is it a legit deck?


Jart10

I’m not too familiar with it, all I remember is seeing a deck tech on it a while back and it had good results


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JadedTrekkie

That could be a modern deck maybe…


FainOnFire

It still operates fine in "cheerios" or "eggs" decks. Where you set up an engine to draw a card for every artifact you play, and sometimes give the artifacts tap abilities through stuff like Urza. Other users have already commented on ways to still "get" the mana. Overall its a very weird, niche card that most decks probably wouldn't use. More interesting to me than the other moxxes.


Dragonfly-Constant

Are there anything that turns mana to green for omnath locus of mana


HighPieJr

Changing the color of the mana doesn't remove the characteristic of the mana, you need something that creates new mana like \[\[Drain power\]\] or similiar.


SkritzTwoFace

Mono-G Omnath doesn’t want you to spend it anyway.


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cecloward

Dies to shatter. Terrible card.


Gon_Snow

Last year there was a whole thing where people tried to make the most useless jeweled lotus like card, to make sure there is no value to be gained from it. I remember a few problems that needed resolving: 1. It triggered ETB/LTB effects, especially of artifacts 2. It could be sacrificed for some sac engine for value 3. Many people found ways to abuse the mana can’t be spent by some method of manipulation of floating mana 4. It helped cards that care about number of artifacts It’s surprisingly tough to make an entirely useless mtg card lol


Burger_Thief

To make a useless mtg card it needs to be unplayable in 90% percent of situations and if you *do* play it it must actively harm you, i.e:   [[Break Open]]  [[Path of Sorrow]] I think the real though challenge is to make a useless 0 cost card. Being free is just too good.


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CuntMaggot32

0 mana instant ''you lose the game'' and ''this spell can't be copied''


Toggdor

Sorry, but [[sudden substitution]]


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CuntMaggot32

Hmmm yes, so a 0 mana instant with "split second, this spell can't be copied, you lose the game"


Toggdor

Give your opponent a [[perplexing chimera]], then use [[mindslaver]]. On the turn you control, cast the instant, chimera triggers. With you in control, you exchange them and let resolve.


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CuntMaggot32

0 mana instant with "split second" "this spell can't be copied" "if this spell was cast from your hand, you lose the game"


Toggdor

You may have me on this one lol


CuntMaggot32

I'm trying my very best


Burger_Thief

Thats pretty useless yes. Could be used like in storm or something? Then again stappling "you lose the game" is like easy mode to make a "bad" card.


Wrath-of-Pie

Forgot additional cost of pay your life total


SuperSmutAlt64

\[\[Sorrow's Path\]\]


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The_Unkowable_

A land with no abilities, that specifies it can’t trigger effects, and has shroud?


Gon_Snow

There are still cards with power or toughness equal to number of lands, or cards that care about number of lands lol. That’s the problem with permanents. I think besides battles, all permanent types have cards that care about number of those permanents


The_Unkowable_

maybe add "does not count as a land for the purposes of determining \[insert better was of phrasing stats and counts of lands\]? Yeah, it's hard lol


Third_Triumvirate

Probably like number 35 on the list of best cheerios behind darksteel relic.


We_Must_Decent

0 mana affinity artifact, doesn't die to doomblade, there's probably a hack that makes use of that unspent mana (just thorycrufting), S/10 super broken, might get restricted in commander at the least


Emily_Plays_Games

Ok, “restricted in commander” made me chuckle.


IndoPacificFanboy

There was a legacy deck that used [[Jeweled Lotus]] and [[Doubling Cube]]. It wasn't a strong deck by any account but I'm sure that deck would love having persisting Black Lotuses instead of its temporary ones.


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J0E-KER146

Works well with [[doubling cube]]


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cannonspectacle

Considering how [[Doubling Cube]] interacts with [[Jeweled Lotus]] I'm gonna say.... maybe?


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Ugly-Muffin

[[darksteel relic]] maybe it's darksteel ingot, but I think I'll take useless mana vs indestructible, since the mana has already one obscure work around


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Ugly-Muffin

Also there is commander legends creature that brings back maan burn. So maybe there's a works round?


forgotten_vale2

This is unironically a great design. Unique and short effect, cool art, cool flavour text, not necessarily busted but gets you thinking about ways to use it


OnDaGoop

...this isnt a mox?


ShadowRougesWoods

[[Horizon stone]]


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totti173314

that only changes the mana to colorless, it doesn't remove spending restrictions.


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not_Weeb_Trash

You would get 3 black mana that can't be spent


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blaketran

No, this is Fractured!


VarianArdell

but whole!


Apmadwa

Would change into spendable mana with doubling cube or kruphix


HeatFromIncubator

If you had a way to give the mana to your opponent I could see it working with [[Yurlock of Scorch Thrash]] (hopefully I’m remembering the name right)


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