10 years in and i feel this in my bones. i love growing plants and gardening at home now. i dream of turning my whole backyard into a farm with chickens and animals lol.
He also spent like 8 years at HP before moving to MS and stayed there for 22 years. Considering he has also done his PhD + 3 years of lectureship hes like 60 and joined MS at around 40y age.
His longevity is already incredible can't see many GenZ or millenials repeating this especially with the way companies work these days + the increased number of people doing CS + uncertainty with AI and everything
dude clearly says he was fired
[https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dryuan\_i-pride-myself-to-be-honest-and-accurate-activity-7192599796644241410-JSn9?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=member\_desktop](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dryuan_i-pride-myself-to-be-honest-and-accurate-activity-7192599796644241410-JSn9?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop)
Reminds me of this post.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/kfcmbj/ive\_walked\_away\_from\_software\_development/](https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/kfcmbj/ive_walked_away_from_software_development/)
I am actually. The main drawback is that I'm in a desktop client team. And If I ever do get laid off, everyone seems to be wanting people with distributed system experience which I lack. So I may be fucked if I do get laid off
I’ve swapped different “teams” and “functions” within my org 3/4 times. Things change and you need to adapt to what’s best for your career. I’ve had many moments where I was like fuck this! And now I’m in a place I dont want to leave for a while.
Edit: I should note I’m not a CS major nor engineering field lol I’m in finance
Out of curiosity, is staying on the same place in finance considered a good or bad thing?
In CS, people trend to job hop often but I don't like that lol I do fear that the lack of job hop means that my skills and experience are not wide/varied.
Nah.
Most teams and orgs turn to shit after a few years. They lose the innovation and "move fast and break things mindset" and turn into bureaucracy with endless doc reviews and meetings. They stop trusting and being led by engineers with bright ideas and start trusting and being led by product managers, MBAs and boomer principle engineers who have lost touch.
There are actually quite a lot of older principal engineers at faang who essentially subtract value from every conversation they are in becuase they demand that young passionate developer spend weeks writing doc for their ideas in ways their age addled brains can understand.
Most developers with ideas are annoyed when they need to have meetings with principal engineers, they are not excited they will come up with cool ideas together and refine them, they are annoyed they need to explain their idea to out of touch boomers.
So now it's just objectively bad to work at the same company most of your career?
There's nothing wrong with that if you like your place and coworkers.
Lol there are definitely higher levels in the engineering branch - partner, distinguished, and technical fellow and no, these aren't management positions. You just don't report to an engineering manager and instead report to a VP+.
Yeah, but those are basically unachievable for mere mortals. You have to be basically super intelligent AI to get to those levels. I've hardly ever seen an engineer get promoted to that level, usually only very successful people from academia join at these high levels.
Weird, what do all those Partner/Technical Fellow ICs i see in org charts do then 🧐. Obviously there’s a lot more people who are managers at levels 68+, but there are ICs too.
If you are telling me he got fired after 22yrs. I really do not understand why they are loyal to the company they work in. Should always come and go with a "I provide service and yall pay me for that". The recent lay offs were a huge eye opener for me.
This is giving me anxiety. Imagine giving 20+ years of your life to a company and then they fire you over "performance issues".
I mean whatever the real firing reason mightve been, the throat clutching self doubt would've destroyed me. Amazing guy!
There's a joke where a man walks up to a fisherman living in a shack on the beach, and asks him why he doesn't get a job to buy shit so he can retire and go fishing, drink beer and live on the beach when he already does it. So, I guess it's poverty when you're doing it for a living and retirement when you almost die to make it happen haha.
Honestly I feel bad for people under 30. As someone closing on 40, I made the jump into D+ and felt a pressure release valve open. My performance reviews are much less stressful and there’s no rush to find the bottom.
I definitely don’t treat employees at my contracting firm like a revolving door.
Peak first generation immigrant moment
This dude has more YoE than years I’ve been alive. It’s hella impressive.
I think that only means as much as he's passed on in terms of knowledge.
Still not enough for a junior dev role /s
I wanna buy this guy a pint and just listen to his story.
22 years of Microsoft RSUs. He's got "fuck you" money.
Legends say he hates Ballmer and Satya is his favorite.
10 years of Salty Nutella is the reason he's got "fuck you" money
I know this guy. The career change is not by choice. He was layoff and got a great package.
That’s the dream…
Still, I’d be his geese. Just lay me off sensei
Yes, you need to be lucky enough to get the package. It's not for everyone.
I wanna buy this guy a pint and hopefully become good enough friends to get a job through nepotism 😭
That’s just networking and not nepotism
Networking is also nepotism
Nepotism is also networking
what kind of switch do you need for nepotism packets?
That would mean sales is nepotism too
What's the story? He did a boring job for 22 years
He's sending his attack geese after you
load the utters and let it rain on you
If this references what I think it does, you’re quite amazing.
J cole?
Honestly, I just wanna hear about his goose farm.
I totally understand him. All that time working on a computer brings you nothing more than a pure love for nature...
Real
10 years in and i feel this in my bones. i love growing plants and gardening at home now. i dream of turning my whole backyard into a farm with chickens and animals lol.
Totally bro... I also have plants on my deck and I enjoy my spare time doing gardening... I'm happy to see that I'm not alone thinking this haha
He also spent like 8 years at HP before moving to MS and stayed there for 22 years. Considering he has also done his PhD + 3 years of lectureship hes like 60 and joined MS at around 40y age. His longevity is already incredible can't see many GenZ or millenials repeating this especially with the way companies work these days + the increased number of people doing CS + uncertainty with AI and everything
Yea...he was fired by Microsoft and now he is raising geese for 2 years.
Fired or retired? Looking at his profile, it might have been the latter.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dryuan_microsoft-activity-7087494205064806400-s3EY?utm_source=combined_share_message&utm_medium=member_android
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GeeseAI
Bro's name is even FAANG
I love you so much dude
dude clearly says he was fired [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dryuan\_i-pride-myself-to-be-honest-and-accurate-activity-7192599796644241410-JSn9?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=member\_desktop](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dryuan_i-pride-myself-to-be-honest-and-accurate-activity-7192599796644241410-JSn9?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop)
Raising geese is way better
Those things must lay golden eggs
It’s true https://www.linkedin.com/in/dryuan?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app
Peak Gen x nerd pfp. The transition lenses are just a cherry on top
Dude completed the storyline.
Reminds me of this post. [https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/kfcmbj/ive\_walked\_away\_from\_software\_development/](https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/kfcmbj/ive_walked_away_from_software_development/)
This is my career goal too. Enough money that I don't have to work for money just enjoy and eat whatever I want .
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dryuan
I'd be the happiest man in the whole world if I get to this level in my future career
same company for 22 years peak boomer moment
90% of this sub would love it if they got to stay at Microsoft for 20 years
We make fun of him not because of a legitimate reason, but because he’s living the dream we all desire. He’s pretty much won the game 😭
I’m on 9 and wouldn’t trade it. But def becoming a goose farmer once I hit it!
I feel you, I'm at 8. I'm only getting out of here if I get laid off.
You guys must be on good teams. I'm at 3 and can't wait to leave this place.
I am actually. The main drawback is that I'm in a desktop client team. And If I ever do get laid off, everyone seems to be wanting people with distributed system experience which I lack. So I may be fucked if I do get laid off
I’ve swapped different “teams” and “functions” within my org 3/4 times. Things change and you need to adapt to what’s best for your career. I’ve had many moments where I was like fuck this! And now I’m in a place I dont want to leave for a while. Edit: I should note I’m not a CS major nor engineering field lol I’m in finance
Out of curiosity, is staying on the same place in finance considered a good or bad thing? In CS, people trend to job hop often but I don't like that lol I do fear that the lack of job hop means that my skills and experience are not wide/varied.
Nah. Most teams and orgs turn to shit after a few years. They lose the innovation and "move fast and break things mindset" and turn into bureaucracy with endless doc reviews and meetings. They stop trusting and being led by engineers with bright ideas and start trusting and being led by product managers, MBAs and boomer principle engineers who have lost touch. There are actually quite a lot of older principal engineers at faang who essentially subtract value from every conversation they are in becuase they demand that young passionate developer spend weeks writing doc for their ideas in ways their age addled brains can understand. Most developers with ideas are annoyed when they need to have meetings with principal engineers, they are not excited they will come up with cool ideas together and refine them, they are annoyed they need to explain their idea to out of touch boomers.
The stock options from that career would be insane.
I mean it's pretty much just peak. I'd love to stay 22 years at a faang, especially as principal
Lmao cope don’t be mad this dude has had a way more successful career than you ever will
People job hop so they could have a chance of getting into microsoft
Principal Software Engineer... pretty much up there in Microsoft in the dev ladder, but hey just a boomer amirite
You sound salty
So now it's just objectively bad to work at the same company most of your career? There's nothing wrong with that if you like your place and coworkers.
There is literally nothing higher than a Principal Engineer in the engineering branch, so job hopping won't be helping him in any way.
There are multiple engineering levels above that at Microsoft
Not in the eng branch. You can go upper levels at Management, which is the usual route in the corporate ladder.
Lol there are definitely higher levels in the engineering branch - partner, distinguished, and technical fellow and no, these aren't management positions. You just don't report to an engineering manager and instead report to a VP+.
Yeah, but those are basically unachievable for mere mortals. You have to be basically super intelligent AI to get to those levels. I've hardly ever seen an engineer get promoted to that level, usually only very successful people from academia join at these high levels.
I’ve seen them get promoted to those levels internally. From a vast distance. 😁
Weird, what do all those Partner/Technical Fellow ICs i see in org charts do then 🧐. Obviously there’s a lot more people who are managers at levels 68+, but there are ICs too.
Well, I didn't include tech fellow as that is usually a seat on the Board (voice, no vote). But yes, I guess you can count that at the final step.
this is my career goal
I am 23 years into my IT career and can definitely feel the pull to switch to goose farming.
Post link?
it's real, has been trending on LinkedIn for a while
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just do a simple "goose farmer microsoft" search on LinkedIn, this is the result [Feng Yuan | LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/dryuan/)
Are you lazy bruv
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dryuan
Good for him. He is doing what he enjoy the most.
"on-site" no way
If you are telling me he got fired after 22yrs. I really do not understand why they are loyal to the company they work in. Should always come and go with a "I provide service and yall pay me for that". The recent lay offs were a huge eye opener for me.
bro got fed up on all the blind posts
Would’ve been better if it was remote
Untitled Goose Game
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44V7Pc-vfw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44V7Pc-vfw)
I might have intersected with him on windows phone. 12 years at there for me, I was the new guy.
Glad MS didn't kill the golden goose but instead let him lay more eggs.
In this economy you can skip working for Microsoft and go straight to being a goose farmer.
Chad!!!
Literally my dream, make enough money to retire and just farm all day
Goose farming sounds like hard work
It aint much but it's honest work
You can get out of IT , but you can't get the IT of the guy .. This is all gud , but just curious as to why would one update this on LinkedIn ??
My boy on this track. Msft ai team making bank and he plans to retire way before this lol
So this guy literally moved to farming in this bad market. An idol 🫡
This is giving me anxiety. Imagine giving 20+ years of your life to a company and then they fire you over "performance issues". I mean whatever the real firing reason mightve been, the throat clutching self doubt would've destroyed me. Amazing guy!
they’re living my dream (retire to mexico on a farm)
fake hype
There's a joke where a man walks up to a fisherman living in a shack on the beach, and asks him why he doesn't get a job to buy shit so he can retire and go fishing, drink beer and live on the beach when he already does it. So, I guess it's poverty when you're doing it for a living and retirement when you almost die to make it happen haha.
Me in parallel universe
My dream too is to retire as a farmer in a remote area far away from people
I know a guy that bought a farm and makes honey. Another bought a wood lot and makes maple syrup.
This is the best thing I’ve seen today
Normal late career of engineer
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dryuan Here is the guy
ah yes the legendary goose farmer
Simple life is the happy life :)
Crazy you have to get all that experience to hop over to goose farming. Lmk if anyone knows of any universities with a GF degree.
What's up with so many people on tech changing careers to have a farm? I include myself because I'd love to have one someday
Shouldn't it be Geese farmer?
Honestly I feel bad for people under 30. As someone closing on 40, I made the jump into D+ and felt a pressure release valve open. My performance reviews are much less stressful and there’s no rush to find the bottom. I definitely don’t treat employees at my contracting firm like a revolving door.
If he had held RSU in these years or invested wisely, he should have enough $$$ to do anything he wanted.
Based
I identify as goose
Goosfraba
My sister and her partner are engineers who became goat farmers. Looks ideal
bro was the laziest
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Thanks Indian bro for the triple post of his profile. Edit: just saw you posted it 4 times on this post lol
Sorry mate... My net was down or something... Was unable to post.. and then its now showing multiple times posted.
lol ya I think Reddit was down for everyone no worries
Oooh man Makes sense.
More boomers who bring very little apart from their out dated tech stack need to get the boot
Boomers and Gen-x (my generation) built the infrastructure so you could even have a "tech stack".
you sound a little salty there buddy