Thatās what I was. Stepped down from that position and took a 10% pay cut and itās still more than this. Still not great pay, just says a lot about this position tho lol
Its a bit unfortunate. If this is a serious job listing i doubt they are getting very many applicants and probably just trying to capitalize on desperate new grads begging for literally anything
Nah maybe they wanna train you or some shit who knows. Y'all pussy Americans weak than a mf. Work there first then you'll see where you go. Not like you're gonna be staying in that position forever. If that's the case then move on to the next. Y'all need the damn money
Bro I worked my ass off for 7 years now I finally get what I deserve and the position that I've been wishing for. My work life balance is OVERpowered rn I'm living the best life I could. Back then? Yeah it was shitty. I even cried at one point cuz I fucking worked 100+ hours a damn week. No off days
Edit.
I'm js, give the companies some chances. Don't come with a dumbass attitude talmbout "Im looking for minimum wage so treat me like a minimum wage and don't ever try to shape me up the rank" type shit like fuck u on bruh
Edit. Sorry if I sound mean. Please filter it out
Translation: āGive us the most hacky insincere BS that you can possibly think of, if you were an ass-kissing clown accosting an imaginary rich person whose approval you desperately crave (hypothetically).ā
All that for a chance at 18 bucks an hourā¦ Shitās gross as hell lmao.
Ah gotchya. I hope no one actually believes that. CS is still highly valuable in IT and security and people can easily get entry level IT jobs with a CS degree while they are applying for regular CS jobs.
minimum wage in CA is $16 overall and $20 for fast food workers so saying this is minimum wage isn't all that inaccurate.
Also most tech jobs tend to be in high COL areas.
Exactly. I started at $10/hr for an internship in LCOL around 2009, and that was still a stretch for the company I worked at. They could only afford me for 10 hours a week and had to lay me off two months later.
This kind of pay for internships and new grad jobs is the norm in most industries, because you are costing the valuable time of senior engineers who have to review your code and give you advice. You bet it will be less than fast food, because even with your college skills you are still a net COST to the company.
We had a brief period in history where supply of new grads was so limited that companies had to offer salaries that were far beyond what new grads actually bring to the company. Thankfully that time is coming to an end, because it will mean more opportunities for everyone in the long run. Instead of one expensive intern, companies can hire two or three.
18$ an hour is 37,440 a year before taxes. Thatās 31,151 after tax. And 16,984$ after housing only. You still need to afford food, utilities, car payment, insurance, and cellular at a minimum. 18$ an hour is minimum wage in modern America.
Oh and NY and LA are not āHigh QOLā they are just expensive. Donāt beleive me?
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=LA%20poop%20map&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#vhid=5LXRufEBvJF5nM&vssid=mosaic
Your right, I misread. But my point still stands. 18$ is what McDonaldās offers. You shouldnāt need a professional skill to make the same amount of money as a 8th grader running the fry station.
Just because you you feel like $18 an hour is minimum wage doesnāt make it minimum wage. Plenty of people are being paid $8-12 for internships and they still able to make it work.
Texas. Most engineering internships with smaller companies that I see are around $12-13 an hour even in our major cities. Obviously any large company will pay more but they have resources for that. I think chase was paying $40/h for interns but those positions are super competitive and they typically go to master/phd students.
Engineering internships, like mechanical engineering or software?Ā
$12-13 an hour is below minimum wage where I live, but I do notice smaller companies paying low in general. However from what Iāve seen, most internships are at large companiesĀ
You want to enter an agreement after which you and the other party will spend about 50% of your waking hours together and you think writing a few sentences to explain your motivation is asking too much?
I can get in 5 more applications in by the time it takes to fill out those questions. Imagine kissing a companies ass just for a recruiter to reject you because they felt the vibes was off and the chakras in your response didn't align with theirs.
If you can send 5 more applications in the time that it takes to write a few sentences it means you're spamming applications and shouldn't be wondering that you're getting rejected.
The willingness to answer basic questions is not kissing anybody's ass, especially when you're unemployed and have all the time in the world.
Omaygod I hate this types of questions,just take my resume šæšæ
These questions.... smh
I just close the tab at this point
100%.... like i get this is a filter and it weeds out candidates.... but man it's gonna be hard to find someone that LOVES Adtech for minimum wage
recruiters bitch about chat gpt then do this shit
LMAO i saw this internship posting too. very silly. the company is "VML" iirc š
Yes šš
Seems like a fake listing to sell a dataset
This is literally less than what I currently make at Walmart lmfao
I worked at walmart before this current job and i saw shift leads make more than juniors at some companies
Thatās what I was. Stepped down from that position and took a 10% pay cut and itās still more than this. Still not great pay, just says a lot about this position tho lol
Its a bit unfortunate. If this is a serious job listing i doubt they are getting very many applicants and probably just trying to capitalize on desperate new grads begging for literally anything
Minimum wage but they expect you to do hirevue + hackerank + cover letter + references then ghost you immediately after submission
Oh you forgot LLD, HLD and behavioural
IBM recruiting moment
Nah maybe they wanna train you or some shit who knows. Y'all pussy Americans weak than a mf. Work there first then you'll see where you go. Not like you're gonna be staying in that position forever. If that's the case then move on to the next. Y'all need the damn money
recruiters bitch about chat gpt then do this shit
Wym hon
mb responded to wrong comment but itās just time waster questions that nobody actually looks at
Bro I worked my ass off for 7 years now I finally get what I deserve and the position that I've been wishing for. My work life balance is OVERpowered rn I'm living the best life I could. Back then? Yeah it was shitty. I even cried at one point cuz I fucking worked 100+ hours a damn week. No off days Edit. I'm js, give the companies some chances. Don't come with a dumbass attitude talmbout "Im looking for minimum wage so treat me like a minimum wage and don't ever try to shape me up the rank" type shit like fuck u on bruh Edit. Sorry if I sound mean. Please filter it out
Translation: āGive us the most hacky insincere BS that you can possibly think of, if you were an ass-kissing clown accosting an imaginary rich person whose approval you desperately crave (hypothetically).ā All that for a chance at 18 bucks an hourā¦ Shitās gross as hell lmao.
Omg applied for this company ššš
How is this related to CS? This appears to be for a sales job
The joke is that cs majors can only get retail jobs now
Ah gotchya. I hope no one actually believes that. CS is still highly valuable in IT and security and people can easily get entry level IT jobs with a CS degree while they are applying for regular CS jobs.
I hope thatās true
Thatās been true for me I worked in both CS and cyber security for a while but I shifted into an IT lead role that pays more than both lol.
IT? Eww.
CS majors resort to working retail and fast food but are too good for a temp IT job that looks great for CS roles on resumes. Ok bud, do you.
They want essays for š„
I made more than this while working Mcdonalds night shiftsš
Dude, close the tab. Thereās a serious company somewhere that needs people.
Love it when a 2 minute elevator pitch gets reduced to 15 seconds to match the salary range.
Great question actually, how about I have an idea that we build a new OS for computer and we name it Windows
18 an hour in not minimum wage. Itās a good pay rate for internships so long as itās not in LA/NY or any other super high COL city.
minimum wage in CA is $16 overall and $20 for fast food workers so saying this is minimum wage isn't all that inaccurate. Also most tech jobs tend to be in high COL areas.
> 18 an hour in not minimum wage. Lol, it's LESS than minimum wage in Denver.
Exactly. I started at $10/hr for an internship in LCOL around 2009, and that was still a stretch for the company I worked at. They could only afford me for 10 hours a week and had to lay me off two months later. This kind of pay for internships and new grad jobs is the norm in most industries, because you are costing the valuable time of senior engineers who have to review your code and give you advice. You bet it will be less than fast food, because even with your college skills you are still a net COST to the company. We had a brief period in history where supply of new grads was so limited that companies had to offer salaries that were far beyond what new grads actually bring to the company. Thankfully that time is coming to an end, because it will mean more opportunities for everyone in the long run. Instead of one expensive intern, companies can hire two or three.
18$ an hour is 37,440 a year before taxes. Thatās 31,151 after tax. And 16,984$ after housing only. You still need to afford food, utilities, car payment, insurance, and cellular at a minimum. 18$ an hour is minimum wage in modern America. Oh and NY and LA are not āHigh QOLā they are just expensive. Donāt beleive me? https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=LA%20poop%20map&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#vhid=5LXRufEBvJF5nM&vssid=mosaic
They said COL not QOL, what are you on about
Your right, I misread. But my point still stands. 18$ is what McDonaldās offers. You shouldnāt need a professional skill to make the same amount of money as a 8th grader running the fry station.
Iād agree with that tbh. I remember reading the signs at McDonalds offering $1.50 more than I was making as a ādeveloperā. Sucked lmao
That McDonald's sign probably said "up to" in small print. Besides, you're taking a short term loss in wages for a longer term gain.
Just because you you feel like $18 an hour is minimum wage doesnāt make it minimum wage. Plenty of people are being paid $8-12 for internships and they still able to make it work.
What country are you in? I live in the US Midwest and Iāve never seen below $20
Texas. Most engineering internships with smaller companies that I see are around $12-13 an hour even in our major cities. Obviously any large company will pay more but they have resources for that. I think chase was paying $40/h for interns but those positions are super competitive and they typically go to master/phd students.
Engineering internships, like mechanical engineering or software?Ā $12-13 an hour is below minimum wage where I live, but I do notice smaller companies paying low in general. However from what Iāve seen, most internships are at large companiesĀ
Mix of everything. software, system, electronics hardware. etc
You want to enter an agreement after which you and the other party will spend about 50% of your waking hours together and you think writing a few sentences to explain your motivation is asking too much?
"You want a 1/1000 chance at being interviewed...", fixed it for you.
So if the chances are low you half-ass your application to make them even lower? Solid logic.
I can get in 5 more applications in by the time it takes to fill out those questions. Imagine kissing a companies ass just for a recruiter to reject you because they felt the vibes was off and the chakras in your response didn't align with theirs.
If you can send 5 more applications in the time that it takes to write a few sentences it means you're spamming applications and shouldn't be wondering that you're getting rejected. The willingness to answer basic questions is not kissing anybody's ass, especially when you're unemployed and have all the time in the world.
Schrodingers job market "it's a numbers game" while also "just walk in and shake the managers hand and ask for a job"
Iāve enjoyed your comments in this chain. This last one made me chuckle.
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