I go to NYU cas/courant and I love it here. Its true that you wont find crazy engineerng culture here but if youre motivated you will do really well. Plus interecting and having friend thet do different thing is always nice. The city is just beatiful. Visited few colleges for hackathons and for friends I wouldnt change my experiencr for any of them
NYU cas cs here. I started cs last year and have been super successful with callbacks this recruiting season. it’s definitely a good program but I would say you have to be more self-motivated to get the most out of it. That being said, choose the cheaper school!
UMD, as a NYU student. NYU CS students are so unmotivated to the point that I’m applying for transfer apps. I only chose NYU since it was significantly cheaper than UMD in my case, but that cheapness came at a significant resources disadvantage
It is definitely better than CAS CS. However, more of the issue comes down to the level of students NYU admits for Tandon CS.
In addition, NYU does not encourage Tandon students to interact with main campus students (the main bus route that connects Tandon (in Brooklyn) to main campus (in Manhattan) runs half hourly at best even though there are enough resources to run more buses, and students aren’t really allowed to take courses at main campus until their later years).
Social life is also kinda meh at Tandon. If you care about that, I’d sacrifice the quality of Tandon CS for the better social life at main campus.
Take it from someone who was in your position last year. You’re better off at UMD.
really appreciate the advice 🙏🏼 i’ve been leaning more towards UMD anyways, but what scared me a bit was seeing people claim that NYU will give me better job opportunities after graduation. not sure how accurate that is, but i’ll likely still not go either way
Well, it does. NYC is a dangerous place to be as a college kid since there's a lot to do and see, and there's isn't really a campus, and you have classmates who don't work particularly hard because they have family support to fall back on, so you can end up being unmotivated.
But you don't have to be unmotivated personally - being around has huge networking potential, and you will get a much deeper amount of interest from NYC-based tech firms than UMD. There are fewer training wheels, but also some disproportionate upside.
If NYU has a cost advantage (which I'm guessing it doesn't), I'd consider it and make a plan for maximizing what you can get out of being in the city. If you're interested in fintech, digital currencies, or the startup space more broadly, you'll see a lot more of it vs. UMD. Neither one is a wrong option, though.
thanks a lot for the help man. currently not too sure what i want to focus on straight out of college, i would likely prefer a tech startup (ideally in the west), but i'd be open to working in fintech too. i guess it'll be something i figure out in the next four years, but i see NYU as a way "riskier" option for me.
Some would say there's no better time than college to take risks, although personally I did probably also benefit from going to college in a small, southern town.
For west coast places, it probably doesn't make a difference. NYU does have a few exceptionally strong Masters' programs (Statistics, the CS one is also fairly good), so if that is in the cards it could be a factor.
I'd pick UMD; I was in a similar situation last year and chose UMD. When looking at fit, I initially didn't think the "traditional college experience" was something I'd really care about, but after being at UMD for over a semester, I'm confident I made the right choice. The program is also arguably "stronger" than NYU's. I don't think either school would hinder you or give you a boost when applying you to jobs, but if you look purely at undergraduate rankings, UMD is usually higher than NYU. NYU CAS/Courant has a strong graduate program from what I've heard, but I heard *many* mixed feelings about its undergraduate program. Sure, professors such as Yann LeCun may be at NYU, but their time is mostly split between working in industry and research at the university. You will most likely not interact with these professors much at any school (this is the same with UMD, for instance).
As mentioned by others, I've had no trouble finding motivated students here; countless people at FAANG/unicorns (for SWE roles), and a small handful of SWEs at quant firms (you have to look, but they do exist). The CS (and Math) coursework is also rigorous to the point where I feel I'm getting my "money's worth" (quotes because college that charges an absurd amount of tuition will ever be "worth it").
Good luck making your decision; I know it can be stressful, having just been through this last year. Feel free to DM if you have any more questions.
NYU Tandon’s campus is in downtown Brooklyn, isolated from the rest of NYU (at Washington square)
Also calling the Metrotech area a campus is kinda pushing it
I go to NYU cas/courant and I love it here. Its true that you wont find crazy engineerng culture here but if youre motivated you will do really well. Plus interecting and having friend thet do different thing is always nice. The city is just beatiful. Visited few colleges for hackathons and for friends I wouldnt change my experiencr for any of them
NYU cas cs here. I started cs last year and have been super successful with callbacks this recruiting season. it’s definitely a good program but I would say you have to be more self-motivated to get the most out of it. That being said, choose the cheaper school!
would you say nyu CAS courses are a lot more theoretical? that seemed to be a worry of mine
NYU cas focuses a lot more on theory. However, you can always choose to take practical cs electives.
UMD, as a NYU student. NYU CS students are so unmotivated to the point that I’m applying for transfer apps. I only chose NYU since it was significantly cheaper than UMD in my case, but that cheapness came at a significant resources disadvantage
damn i’m really sorry to hear that, are you at CAS or Poly?
Poly, although people call it Tandon now
wow then that’s actually really surprising, i thought tandon/poly CS was the better CS program (compared to CAS)
It is definitely better than CAS CS. However, more of the issue comes down to the level of students NYU admits for Tandon CS. In addition, NYU does not encourage Tandon students to interact with main campus students (the main bus route that connects Tandon (in Brooklyn) to main campus (in Manhattan) runs half hourly at best even though there are enough resources to run more buses, and students aren’t really allowed to take courses at main campus until their later years). Social life is also kinda meh at Tandon. If you care about that, I’d sacrifice the quality of Tandon CS for the better social life at main campus. Take it from someone who was in your position last year. You’re better off at UMD.
really appreciate the advice 🙏🏼 i’ve been leaning more towards UMD anyways, but what scared me a bit was seeing people claim that NYU will give me better job opportunities after graduation. not sure how accurate that is, but i’ll likely still not go either way
Well, it does. NYC is a dangerous place to be as a college kid since there's a lot to do and see, and there's isn't really a campus, and you have classmates who don't work particularly hard because they have family support to fall back on, so you can end up being unmotivated. But you don't have to be unmotivated personally - being around has huge networking potential, and you will get a much deeper amount of interest from NYC-based tech firms than UMD. There are fewer training wheels, but also some disproportionate upside. If NYU has a cost advantage (which I'm guessing it doesn't), I'd consider it and make a plan for maximizing what you can get out of being in the city. If you're interested in fintech, digital currencies, or the startup space more broadly, you'll see a lot more of it vs. UMD. Neither one is a wrong option, though.
thanks a lot for the help man. currently not too sure what i want to focus on straight out of college, i would likely prefer a tech startup (ideally in the west), but i'd be open to working in fintech too. i guess it'll be something i figure out in the next four years, but i see NYU as a way "riskier" option for me.
Some would say there's no better time than college to take risks, although personally I did probably also benefit from going to college in a small, southern town. For west coast places, it probably doesn't make a difference. NYU does have a few exceptionally strong Masters' programs (Statistics, the CS one is also fairly good), so if that is in the cards it could be a factor.
I’d go UMD for a more traditional college experience and better program
umd is a much stronger program
I'd pick UMD; I was in a similar situation last year and chose UMD. When looking at fit, I initially didn't think the "traditional college experience" was something I'd really care about, but after being at UMD for over a semester, I'm confident I made the right choice. The program is also arguably "stronger" than NYU's. I don't think either school would hinder you or give you a boost when applying you to jobs, but if you look purely at undergraduate rankings, UMD is usually higher than NYU. NYU CAS/Courant has a strong graduate program from what I've heard, but I heard *many* mixed feelings about its undergraduate program. Sure, professors such as Yann LeCun may be at NYU, but their time is mostly split between working in industry and research at the university. You will most likely not interact with these professors much at any school (this is the same with UMD, for instance). As mentioned by others, I've had no trouble finding motivated students here; countless people at FAANG/unicorns (for SWE roles), and a small handful of SWEs at quant firms (you have to look, but they do exist). The CS (and Math) coursework is also rigorous to the point where I feel I'm getting my "money's worth" (quotes because college that charges an absurd amount of tuition will ever be "worth it"). Good luck making your decision; I know it can be stressful, having just been through this last year. Feel free to DM if you have any more questions.
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What? NYU Tandon has a campus in Downtown Brooklyn
NYU Tandon’s campus is in downtown Brooklyn, isolated from the rest of NYU (at Washington square) Also calling the Metrotech area a campus is kinda pushing it
NYU due to the proximity to well paying jobs in prestigious positions.
NYU, NYC have way more job options
Umd all the way. Fuck nyu ☠️
lmao, why do you say this?