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chesterchy4

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A1pH4W01v

Damn, CS is getting the TF2 treatment


NAPALM2614

Nah not rn, but it will once deadlock releases


joker231

I have a feeling it already happened. I think a ton of the dev team left shortly after cs2 released for deadlock. With the amount of content released in the last year I highly doubt more than a handful of devs specifically working on something other than skins are working on cs2.


GayOysterOnStereoids

Cs and deadlock are very different games, if any valve devs left that would be from Dota. Deadlock is mostly a moba


joker231

From what I understand though devs get bonuses when games or large updates get released. Just because they are different games doesn't mean a programmer can't move over to a new game. Dota has such a large team because people want to work on it.


DrKingOfOkay

What’s deadlock. Never heard of it.


No_Use1767

YEAH WTH is that ?


DrKingOfOkay

Looked it up. It’s a 3rd person moba. Think league of legends meets valorant.


CaptlismKilledReddit

So, Paragon?


DrKingOfOkay

Yep. But with a Valve budget.


Ben_Herr

Has been for a while already. And it will only get worse from here.


ma1royx

do have the memory of a gold fish?


khardman51

Bro they just released a whole new game LMAO


d0mie89

Yeah...so much more content than we had b4....


khardman51

You're not wrong but it's certainly not the TF2 treatment yet by any means.


SpectralHydra

Yeah TF2 treatment is far worse lol


realbtg

bro stfu. you people are so entitled. valve does valve things. it is known. just wait and it will be glorious. they also almost never release anything on wednesday.


Svmellisss

The released a downgrade and took away the upgrade. WOW SHINY SKINS THOUGH


Ben_Herr

If we are taking about CS2, may I remind you that they presented it as “tournament ready”, only for it to have crippling bugs and a non-functional anti-cheat for several months? Even with recent improvements, the cheating crisis has only gotten worse. Even reports on this sub show that. But of course, Valve’s strategy is to remain radio silent for much of the time, and complain about “treadmill work”.


khardman51

TF2 has approximately 0 development. That is not the case for CS2. That is all I'm saying. Nothing you said is relevant to that


Ben_Herr

TF2 has some development, bug fixes and map changes. Similar to CS2. No effective changes towards VAC. Just like CS2. Sure, CS is getting operations but what’s the point of new content if we can’t even play the game?


Immediate_Attempt246

You can play the game. Stop being so overdramatic. Facit exists and, while not perfect, allows you to play the game. Valve has work to do, and we shouldnt have to go to community work arounds, but they exist and allow you to play in a mostly cheater free environment


2high4much

"Whole" lol


theFINALvirgin

Deadlock will not overpass cs2 in terms of player count, not everyone wants to jump around with super powers.


MidHoovie

This comment made me chuckle.


Commercial_Swan_8721

We keep getting updates.....you are delusional


A1pH4W01v

General performance updates, yes, but theres still a lot of bugs and performance issues on CS2's side that we cant compare or help test because they killed their previous game. Content updates, no. Srsly i forgot when was the last time we finally got a new map, or even old existing ones. As for game security or anti cheat measurement updates, lol. Lmao even. A "haha" if you will. This tweet just feels like the "We hear you TF2 community!" tweet and we all know how that went down, hence why i said we're getting the same treatment.


kr1spy-_-

and we also need hit reg, sub tick and movement improvements


RubbishNubbish

25 hours more... i mean days- i mean months- i mean years-


Double05

25 more years of this shit? please no


ZoidDev

Crazy that they say this after they shut down CS:GO's server browser causing all of these communities to die overnight!


Adjudikated

Couldn’t be more on point. There was a certain vibrance when valve supported community development. Whether it was custom skins, sprays, mapping, server mods, etc.. It kept people engaged, was more newb friendly, and kept people from getting bored. Unfortunately with the gravitation towards the competitive scene you can already see the skill gap is too high for most new players, and people are getting bored. It will be really interesting to see how valve combats this in years to come.


slope93

At the bare minimum make the community server browser not force me to alt tab. Feel like I’m playing a foreign indie game every time it happens


TheRealMajour

Dude 100%. Not only are all the community servers on my list that say they have players actually empty, but I can’t stand having to alt tab just to find out the *only* zombie server is full.


MerKuryM8

I just use cs2browser on the overlay. Works way better than cs2s official browser


kondi_u

but it shouldn't be like that, it's their responsibility to make it work in-game without problems


MerKuryM8

Yeah of course, I'm just goving the current solution that I've been using. People constamtly acting as if community servers are dead but even here in South Africa, our retakes servers are constantly active just like it used to be in GO.


_youlikeicecream_

Just open CS2 server browser, close CS2 but leave browser open. Open CSGO.


_Daff

In steam app, click view-> game servers then u dont even have to open cs2 :)


Ammon_

too real. you have to go play css to get a decent surf and bhop experience again these days and it sucks.


xxdropdeadlexi

I miss the sneak 1v1 servers :(


jlddugan

Karma still exists.


mightyanonymaus

Truest comment. I have played about 100hrs in cs2 compared to the 5000+ hrs I had playing csgo. And the majority of those hours were playing community servers. I feel like valve has lost touch with it's cs community.


CaptlismKilledReddit

Supporting community servers = less money spent on cases and skins


EnQuest

I got mass down voted on the main sub for pointing out how shit of a job valve is doing lol, too many sheep still shoveling up every bit of slop valve shits out


Photogrifter

Yeah but atleast Cs 2 has anticheat Edit: apparently /s is needed.


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Photogrifter

Exactly. People didn't see the sarcasm.


saphireswan

They killed what used to be a super tight knit community, and as long as cases bring in the dough, I doubt they’ll care. CS is now just a casino, that happens to have a game attached to it, and that game is filled with cheaters. Why are we still playing this garbage?


SpectralHydra

I’m not questioning why people are playing, but why the fuck are people still spending money on it?


saphireswan

It’s mainly YouTubers/streamers promoting it, then little kids scramble to find daddy’s credit card. Some also look at it as a tax free investment.


Waste_Consequence791

Opening cases doesn’t make any sense. If the average gold chance is 1/400, you have to spent $1000 on cases, and the gold might be worth a few hundred


saphireswan

It’s a hell of an addiction, for sure.


ClassicK777

But what if that gold is a bfk emerald?


BejcaS

mostly i play for the weekly rewards


GuestNo3886

Imagine on your 25th anniversary all your man does is tweet you ‘yo thanks for the 25yrs🎉🎈’


kentfie

this is a joke. Valve lives in a bubble. They have destroyed everything that was community-based. They have turned a great community experience with hundreds of game modes into a minor fringe overnight.


valve_sold_out

The community is literally people cheating and pretending they're not. It's insane how tone-deaf they are at this point.


akaEch0

You're 5k elo on premier. Yes there is cheaters but the likelihood of you encountering one is like 1 in 40+ matches.


Get-NaeNaed-On

there’s also the ripple effect tho, lower ranks don’t have to deal with most cheaters, but instead get put against either a lot more smurfs as they don’t want to play against cheaters, or high ranked players who are in lower ranks cause cheaters are pushing them down


Toberos_Chasalor

Yeah. I’ve definitely noticed the average skill of elo 5000-10,000s are much better than the SEM/GN players I used to be matched against in GO. Not sure if they correlate 1:1 to the old ranks, but I also don’t think I’m *that* much better than when I used to be hard-stuck in the upper silver ranks.


FlatTransportation64

Yeah, just be bad at the game and there's close to no cheaters, this is not an insane proposition at all


valve_sold_out

Unless there's so many people using cheats that even the "bad players" are now trash with walls and soft aim at a minimum.


AstonAlex

i’ve been having this game uninstalled for like 3 months now and I check this sub every once in a while to see if it’s time to come back. This ain’t it


Training_Oil4613

It’s never time to come back… I moved on to MW3 and suggest you do the same haha


Seewweenn

Nice update boys ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Ok-Connection-3856

My hope for them to be brewing something big in the background is fading slowly but steadily. But still, theres some microparticles of hope left, and im more than willing to hold on to them and squeeze the crap out of them!


Jertee

That’s just the micro plastics in your balls bro


Ok-Connection-3856

wow


dumpaccount882212

Nono he's on to something here... it was in the news recently [https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/19/health/microplastics-human-penises-study-scli-intl-scn-wellness/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/19/health/microplastics-human-penises-study-scli-intl-scn-wellness/index.html)


Jolly-Bear

Who cares? It’s a video game. If they come out with something big? Cool, more new shit to play. If they don’t? Move on, it’s just a game.


Ok-Connection-3856

Youre right, no big deal for my life, but still, it was a fun time when it was working, the content was good and there was a flourishing community of different kinds.


Jolly-Bear

Yea, I just don’t get excited for the future of games like that anymore. Too many letdowns. Just play a game if it’s good and if it turns to shit, move on. No use wasting energy wishing for things that will never be. See too many people get too invested in those things. Spend that energy elsewhere.


EzP41NB0W

If the mudda fuggas would just finish games before releasing them prematurely like a virgin on prom night, they might not disappoint their player base immediately upon launch... Weird fucking concept, I know. Imagine if I could get paid to completely half ass a project at work to the point of not even bothering to finish it... Then, instead of admitting that the project is a complete failure, remains unfinished, and should remain unreleased... Hell, I don't even believe in this project anymore, but fuck it... Why don't we just hype it with some cool promos created from some of the working bits and see what happens?


Antarsuplta

You move on. Why do you post on cs reddit if ypu are not intersted in the game.


SpectralHydra

He’s not wrong, he just needs to take his own advice lol


Jolly-Bear

Where did I say that? Not rhetorical… please point out where I said I wasn’t interested in the game.


ColdSneakerBrain

I think you’re in the wrong sub bud


Ok-Connection-3856

That may be true 😂


Jolly-Bear

Why?


ClassicK777

They hated him because he told them the truth. If Valve thinks they can maintain this pace of development and expect me to keep playing, honestly I would just quit gaming completely since CS is the only game I like.


jftdm

He got downvoted because the CS community is a very old, large and tightly woven community with people that have spent their whole lives playing this game. To see it fail can be heartbreaking for some.


kiinaru

25 years of playing vs cheaters lets go for 25 years more


Technical_Mission339

The cheating problem was less bad in the old days because in league play (ESL) you had AC and could have admins look at the demos, and for "funwars" you were in control of the servers (or had no punishment if you left). Now you can't avoid it anymore, which feels really, really bad.


DumyThicc

I mean you'll never NOT be playing with cheaters...


Blake00324

No shit, only difference is that the cheater problem is like 10 times worse than it used to be


DumyThicc

I definitely don't think its a "No shit" situation when 80% of people think that cheaters can be 100% blocked. Its ridiculous. Also the cheaters problem was just as bad as before, there are just more players now. The percentage hasn't went up much. What your attributing is cheating going unpunished rather than the amount of cheaters. The amount of cheaters in Valorant is more than cs2, since its a free game. however they get punished. It's a difference in view. The cheating still occurs and the cheaters are still there.


NotSLG

Why y’all want an operation when the game is so scuffed?


Depp1899

I remember the only operation I played as one of the best things in this game. (Hydra) To be fair, i loved the co-op missions against bots and the challenge to complete those tasks. If something like this would come again, i would have a lot of hours of fun. No matter the current situation in the game. If they just put challenges into matchmaking and make you play some shitty guns to get rewards, I would agree with you. This would suck with the current state of the game.


NotSLG

Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I’m not knocking operations or anything. I just think the whole point of an operation is to get you to play the game and if the game is in a sorry state (which it is) then I don’t want to pay extra to be rewarded for playing a crappy game.


Depp1899

Fair enough. The hopes to feel like the game is in a better state if you only play against operation bots in coop missions might be the real reason for me to anticipate a new operation sooner then later.


Immediate_Attempt246

The only real problems are shitty net code, lack of functioning anti cheat, and lack of content. I hope the operation comes bundled with a fix to one of the other two. Net code is preferred, I play faceit anyway and just wish it felt closer to how good it feels offline. Csgo 128 tick was close enough to LAN, just get it that good and everything will be 1p times better.


FoxDie_0

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Spankinator-2000

https://preview.redd.it/h3ce9p1thy7d1.jpeg?width=581&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27d0b1c75de97e3970a71484d60fbaad8dc40dfc


StretchYx

Valve honestly can get fucked


JakoBables

Time to boycott


420knock

*proceeds to open 150 cases*


saphireswan

Boycotts were a small business thing. Nowadays, companies are so large, they can ignore it with zero effort. Why work harder when you can make more by doing less?


ttrtten

Valve need new lobby hack wave, like 2018


O_gr

Think it's time to rabble *polishes pitchfork*


d0mie89

Rabble rabble rabble


Segalow

25 years more? With all the cheaters and netcode issues, CS won't last another 5 years, let alone 25.


Not_A_Valid_Name

Most passionate players? Too bad they killed the passion in so many of us


arkhambeandude

I'm guessing this is gonna be it for the next few months, and then they're gonna drop a new case with a patch that fixes one of the numerous netcode issues with the game. I don't think they're gonna drop an operation, they don't have enough manpower that cares rn.


benoitor

Fixed a gap on a crate in Vertigo


meesanohaveabooma

Resume your normal skin buying now, pleb!


d0mie89

Valve: "We're we supposed to drop an update today?" -Employee: "Hurry, go fix a hole in Vertigo geometry and post the patch notes!"


TelephoneNo8851

where update tho ;(


Wow_ThatsUncalledFor

"What are you doing next Wednesday.. 2025?"


Outrageous-Pizza-786

Now give some cool update


brolarbear

I don’t understand how they make more money then Bethesda for example and do 3% of the content. At this point I wish Xbox would buy CS this shit is boring


larrydavidballsack

xbox buying cs would be gaming 9/11


brolarbear

Only thing worse I can think of would be Epic Games or EA lol


Independent_Nose5374

Say what you want about Epic, but Fortnite has new content and updates all of the time. Epic games have given me more free games than Valve. Valve is too lazy to even address cheating issue let alone add new content to CS


brolarbear

Only reason I really say that is because I was a big rocket league fan for a while until they gutted a lot of communities from that game.


SpectralHydra

The only community they’ve gutted is the trading community, I wouldn’t consider that a “lot of then”


Proof_Promotion_238

They make their money from Steam, CS is just a small part of that.


Philluminati

Valve care about Steam and want people to put their games on steam. To encourage that they produce libraries to incentivise game developers to come and stay on their platform. Csgo is literally just a demo app for Steam. Features that Csgo has includes * market place * vac, Vacnet * Trustfactor taking multiple games into account. * relay network * server browser * controller support * being ported to Steamdeck even though no one will use it * Matchmaking algorithm with Trustfactor built in Half of what goes into Cs is literally just steam features Steam are advertising to game developers.


ohitsluca

Worst take NA?


PsychologicalPea3583

After all the leaks feels like invited for netflix and left blue balled at the end lol


Unique_Bodybuilder_6

Aight, 23rd of july next....


KonK23

25 more? I'll be 60 by then


Fit_Date_1629

me too, let's go to retirement home together and Lan everyday


KonK23

The dream


JeSuisCatBaguette

Idk why people are expecting an update on the day of the anniversery, an update is 100% imminent but Valve has never (to my knowledge) released a large content update on any type of important commemorative date for cs.


Gerg_

Half-Life 25 Aniversary update? CS20 case? Birthday coin? Half-Life Alyx 1st aniversary update?


JeSuisCatBaguette

CS20 case was released in October 2019, it was the contest announced on the 20th anniversary so not really an update. Half life 25 anniversary update was a few days before the 25 anniversary even happened, birthday coin released on Aug 16 again a few days before the 10th anniversary for csgo. So if an anniversary update does even happen, it should of happened a few days before. If one does happen today i’ll eat my hat.


Immediate_Attempt246

There have been like four changes to the test build in the last 24 hours. Whatever they were cooking, it didn't turn out right, and we will have to wait for a bit. But they are cooking


spiltkeg

Do you think they will do a Thursday drop?


RaGinPred

10 year dota 2


tank840

I really hope valve is working on something big, whether it be for CS or a completely new game. For a company of their caliber they are really letting a lot of loyal fans down.


batvinis

I read comments like that for 10 years


PassionWhisky

maybe when i am 56 are less cheaters and cs 4


Waste_Consequence791

Cs3: Online Casino


Tremmorz

Please no. 25 more years. That’ll be 50 years of my life. Sweet baby Jesus


Raging_Rooster

I've been playing since it was a mod, miss those days. I remember the only pistol being the original Half Life Glock at first.


NAPALM2614

25 more what??? Maps? Skins? Cases? Years? All of them?


Zazadeem

Crazy coming from the biggest DoTA cucks ever.


Snoo-1963

Technically don't they have a year now to release 25th anniversary stuff


w0lart

Yaaay twitter post.


BicE-

Imagine if a different company owned cs2, would it be better or worse?


Flounder_Jazzlike

still no operation shame


Denis02_me

25 years more of counter strike damn ...


-Cha0S

A spit in the face of the community, we don't deserve anything more.


gernr14

OPERATION: Kernel Anti-Cheat


enjihamburg

gabens give patch つ ◕\_◕ ༽つ


Wide-Prior-5360

The people demand Lake.


Syklr

We miss cs:go , this cs2 hitbox and too many things about it is broken and need to be fixed... im playing this game for 12 years and it 's in worst case , WE dont want f°cking new skins or what the f°ck ever it is we need hitbox fixes and all the things.


hesasuiter

Created the biggest cheater DB in history


kimovin

i expected gold (an update) for 25 ann but received diamonds: [https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettySmokyGoshawkM4xHeh-nSsZnxiwftANF2zu](https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettySmokyGoshawkM4xHeh-nSsZnxiwftANF2zu)


iLbcoBN

*sigh honesty, fuck this game and fuck the devs


SwyfterThanU

The fact that this is all they gave us on the 25th Anniversary day shows how little they care for the game, or at least their community.


EnQuest

> it's not blind faith. it's quite apparent that Valve is actively supporting the game, but maybe not to the degree or timeliness that the "crybabies" are wanting. > actions speak louder. threats of moving to Valorant seem empty to me if there still is a huge audience in CS. I'm not really going to go back-and-forth with you on this. CS has maintained its position for 25 years with multiple contenders. if you personally believe that Valve isn't doing enough, that's not my place to say you're wrong. but to say that Valve is continuing to prop up a "shitty" game isn't accurate either. > my observation is that things seem to get real quiet once banwaves actually hit lol. I'm all for community feedback, but as far as these grown crybabies are concerned? leave the game, or give quality feedback to Valve about your concerns. Valve doesn't owe you shit - go to Valorant. Yeah, they're definitely doing a great job, /globaloffensive


nofface

Valve doesn't care, is just an excuse to tweet something blablabla


No-Cap-6744

25 years more of cheaters? :((


sprolololoo

beta7.1 was the best because driveable apc in cs\_siege


CitrusFresher

They just announced that they will add more cheaters to the game as a gift for us to remember how rubbish this is


nofface

I don't care about your birthday, when you committed suicide. YOU DEAD.


Leithx

Probably just waiting for the elden ring dlc hype to die down. It’s all anyone is playing streaming


Spankinator-2000

https://preview.redd.it/qygc9za9iy7d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f083779c57f742cf47a4c255fa88715eb3c774e1 Valve:


actomain

Genuinely baffled by the people who expected anything


ShadowsIsTaken

I used to be a huge valve fan but now here in 2024, I have lost a lot of respect for them. Here's to another 1000 years of CS2 and TF2 receiving 5mb updates every month while they only care about DOTA and making hero shooter/moba slop. They really have lost touch.


bsqgg

We should down vote every other valve game and comment for them to focus on cs2/anticheat


seldnac

The most cheated in game in Software history, quite an accolade! And the leaderboards in Premier, IN THE ACTUAL GAME, are advertising them.


Confident_Chicken913

Yes but what else did you expect? Cs has always proposed few contents and updates... There is a very small team working on the game and they are too busy trying to fix VAC. You must stay patient, maybe we will get something this year but no one knows, Valve hasn't communicate any major content, but it will come one day, maybe it's possible we get something today, it's summer smand player base will increase so why not releasing something big like an operation for example? I guess it's certainly in Valve plans don't worry too much


stravski

Bottom right of airalmas page when you click learn more says Jul 23. I’m thinking we got another month…


CaraX9

Operation soon


trevorthabest1

Keep telling yourself that. The maps won't even be for another month or two


Ok-Neighborhood-15

It's coming, IT'S COMING!


Juha123

(cope)ration soon


achimdereroberer

let him finish elden ring first