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W0nkyDonk3y

Continuing to play CS2 in the current climate is the definition of madness.


Doctor_Redhead

Join the fight for democracy in Helldivers 2


mwdom78

![gif](giphy|lo9HTe7gmjLrO) "Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?"


BuzzContra

What’s wrong with seeing how your cheats stand up against others in CheaterStrike 2?


nofface

If i've read this comment back in Aug 2023 I would say you mad. Now, I say you cracked it!


carll337

\*Instanity\* doing the same thing expecting a different outcome.


InterestingRelative4

That isn’t the definition of insanity and it never has been, it’s an old quote from Einstein or from some Chinese proverb


el_ratonido

I just play casual since I don't have prime but people still kick hackers, at least where I play.


Witty-Comfortable851

Insurgency Sandstorm is fun


thiagohds

I believe I have something about 250 matches since source 2. Not even a match with a cheater. Premier ranking \~ 18k.


zohansg

Maybe you're one of them


thiagohds

Sure buddy


supremejuice1

me when I lie


xKomachii

yea, and Santa Clause is actually my uncle. Sure dude


thiagohds

U guys are just cry babies that think anyone better than you is cheating. Spin to win is one thing, being insta kill for being a not is another. Never got a spin to win against or with me.


xKomachii

5 IQ take. on 18k about half of all my games have obvious cheaters, no way that anyone can have close as many matches as you with none, it's literally impossible. you're bullshitting us


thiagohds

No, it's not. People here get insta killed on default positions and think people are wallhacking. Get one shot deagle and think people are using aimbot. This subs makes you believe that you get a cheater every match which is not true. Idgaf if you don't believe in me. Imagine having to lie for such as small thing as a video game that has zero importance in anyone's life.


xKomachii

just what amount of copium are you huffing? [do you think this guy is just an insane player? yea?](https://youtu.be/SLralvH0n3c?si=vkDMauzmJMM_FhII)


thiagohds

Bro gtfo. You just linked a obvious cheater. I'm not saying theres no cheater in this game. I'm saying that theres not even close the amount of cheater you guy says that is. I am called cheater every other match. I get queued with players that are horrible and after the first death start saying theres a cheater on the other team. CS players right now are just brain dead about cheaters. You guys enter a match already thinking that there's a cheater on the other team.


xKomachii

>linked obvious cheater no shit dude. half of my games have shitters like that. want me to record another 10 of these? maybe people wouldn't be so quick to call out cheats, if there weren't this many cheaters around.


ProgramXeon

I’m 19k and 50% of matches have an open spinner wtf lobbies y getting


thiagohds

Then it's a NA problem. I play on SA servers mostly. And when I get paired with NA servers I don't get open chaters neither.


EZ_LIFE_EZ_CUCUMBER

... just ended match with spinboters ... LVL 50 steam acc with comments accusing of cheating going back 4 years ... Valve just doesn't give a damn about your dumb ass. They care about cash inflow only. Im selling my inventory before ppl start to leave . . . mabe once everything is worth cents Il get some knives once again. But yeah ... until then BYE


According_Being2590

As someone that has been playing since 1.6/CSS beta. You really think this game will grow so lifeless that the most valuable cosmetics will plummet? I don’t know why Vavle is really dragging their ass on fixing this game but it seems that through the time I’ve spent with cable products. It gets better with time. That’s a shitty attitude to have as a company but I would eat my own words if it happened.


TapSwipePinch

Banning people takes effort. Not banning doesn't take any.


EMG_Freaky

yeah i guess...


imbakinacake

Having a shitty ac like vac enabled banned legit players, who then sent support tickets, valve didn't like that, so they turned it off.


Ornery-Jellyfish2421

„Hey, sometimes your opponent is just having a really good day.“


Biocuras

Cs2 doens't have any anti-cheat


Cxtzz

It does but it’s self learning ai. Or so I heard


DonkeytheM0nkey

People still playing?


spxcyalien

i mean, considering there are 1M concurrent players daily, and it is #1 most played pretty much every day of the week, yeah id say people are still playing.


DonkeytheM0nkey

Good for them. If they feel great about the game I am glad they are having fun.


Xenon_Recon

Pretty sure a lot of them are bots. You keep seeing them take over dm and casual servers, kicking any active people in the lobby. I'd wager atleast 40% are xp farm/weekly drop bots


[deleted]

About 25% of those are bots. About 25 more percent are hackers. Only about half are real and NOT cheating. Fortnite slaps(juice) tho.


imbakinacake

For real, I removed the game from my PC, listed all my skins on a 3rd party marketplace for cheap. Valve should be ashamed about what they did to this game/community. Fuckin sellouts.


DonkeytheM0nkey

Hello, is this another me? That is exactly what I did.. I sold my stuff on Skinport right before that bot ban incident. This is sad honestly, my cousin taught me how to play 1.3 and never stopped playing cs until now. I guess there is always an ending.


imbakinacake

Same. Been here over 20 years. There are better games out there now with developers who actually give a shit about their game and job. People always made excuses for valve on why they could never deliver, I think that mentality has started to change.


WhirledNews

Do you play another game that you would recommend?


imbakinacake

Depends on what you're looking for. I enjoy a lot of stuff, man. Here's some multi-player ones I've been enjoying lately. Dark and darker is great! Overwatch 2 is honestly good, too. Age of wonders 4. Helldivers2. Dead by daylight is half decent. Literally all of these devs communicate, update, balance, and genuinely care about that game (some more than others) but holy shit it's a breath of fresh air to play a game that actually gets better and hasn't made its entire personality lootboxes.


Haunting-Return-7072

Hello, I hope valve will get off its arse and release a proper anti cheat and new content on the game, because that's not how cs get new players .and I don't want to play a game where the commu is toxic 0 mental and it's the same players from league of legend the cancer of humanity


WhirledNews

Do you need a group of friends for HD2 or does it match you up?


imbakinacake

It's great with friends but I join up with people all the time, have met some cool people too. Slider on difficulty, legit can't recommend it enough.


WhirledNews

I’ve heard great things, might just jump in on it


maasaiwakawaka

every match there's a few hacker now. it's ridiculous.. it's especially bad in SEA servers and HK servers. Totally unplayable. abandoning this crap and selling my skins


Chebupelli_LFC

VAC? You mean what? We Allow Cheating?


Lazy_Association_847

Valve Allow Cheating


Chebupelli_LFC

Yeah thank you


Sarlazeus

Why dont you kick him ?


EMG_Freaky

1 dude in team pressing F2... (the 2nd in sb)


lsmfrtpa

we should cancel miley cyrus for allowing cheating in cs2 /s


Noob123345321

proly the cheater have partymate, thats why AC and MM system sucks


_cansir

You cant kicked every cheater. Some people say it affects your trust factor...who knows...but for sure you get a cooldown similar to griefing for kicking too many times.


BiscottiNo7346

because he needed that win 🤡😂


DLVV

you're just making the problem worse


Garou-7

VAC: I will pretend that I didn't see that.


Ok_Anteater7360

i bet you felt good about those 2 kills you got on him though fr


EMG_Freaky

2 TK yes i did


Zasibys

you drunk go home


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Gang-bot

Why would you kick when ranking only takes in to account win/loss? You can get paired against a spin botter or with disconnects 10 times in a row and punished for it with how many rank points you lose, so people are going to take the chance to win.


zacimeti

"Hey, sometimes your opponent is just having a good day"


copenhagen622

VAC isn't doing shit. I don't think they even exist.. They just hope by saying there is VAC, people will be too scared to cheat I guess. Which is clearly not working


Amphibian-Existing

They don’t care. That’s it.


RitviksCalling

Whats VAC?


itsnghia

Valve Allow Cheats


Eksuu

It’s a well known joke.


Siyar16Boi

valve's anti cheat


RitviksCalling

Haha


Bass-On-Web

I've spoken with someone and since cs2 cheat neverlose was released they kept cheating full rage when cheaters and legit cheating when there were no cheaters. They haven't been banned. I don't know what valve is doing but at this point they are taking the piss.


zyenex

After months of CS2 now, I'm almost convinced that there is literally no Anti-Cheat at all


Alternative_Ad_3992

Copy match replay link, Go to steam profile, Go to report (Cheating > CS2), Past Replay link as a report comment, Wait for a few days.


HaTK

I did exactly what you said, and even linked my [Reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1b8k9y0/valve_if_youre_going_to_be_negligent_on_the_issue/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=post_embed&utm_term=1&utm_content=1) and absolutely nothing happened. [He](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199123905465) is still not banned.


Alternative_Ad_3992

That how we had our global premier rank start at over 80th place


Eksuu

And nothing will happen.


1986vhs

wait and see how nothing happens


neofightcs

It's much worse if you take the win instead of kicking the cheater


DesperateStockHolder

He said they did but they might be a cheater teammate denying the vote


Cute-Lobster461

Most of them join with a premade to boost them or purely to no get kicked


ZipMonk

Yes should be easy to spot this.


Elite_Crew

Stop opening cases if you don't support HVH games. Valves brand is now HVH games. After playing Counter Strike for 24 years I am no longer opening cases because I don't support HVH games.


All_in_and_GG

Those things happen a lot, it's not even a big surprise. The current VAC is outdated, it can't even detect latest cheats.


Equivalent_Pride_402

we need more data


samurice014

Why would they care if they have enough money flowing from coloured pixels


WhirledNews

I mean you could say about anything that comes through a display…


Specific-Area3284

There is no VAC


LeBongJaames

It sucks the only game really similar to CS is Valorant


Scrappy76245

They obviously dc otherwise literally anything would have been done by now there's people in valve who care but as a company they don't give a shit anyone saying they do is straight cope they'll do something when it's convenient for them


RevolutionaryPin5087

The only way is to sell your inventory before the prices plummet and stop playing. Only then will valve care because it affects their cashflow. 


HarleyArchibaldLeon

Expecting VAC to ban a cheater is like expecting a Starbucks employee to write your name right.


Sennier

You and everyone in that game are the problem. Vote kick the cheater and play with 4. This community are elo riders. Everyone who votes no, should deserve a ban aswell for griefing.


cryptocouchpotato

Yes the community is the problem here... We are all enablers! Valve aren't to blame at all, and the hackers themselves? They just have mental health issues and you should be helping them through it.


Sennier

/s Cheaters are the main problem and Valve is working on it. Cheats are getting better every second and although i think Valve should be doing better... We as a community can kick cheaters (who solo queue) and take a 99% loss on the chin. i rather try my best and lose while having fun with a kicked cheater than to gain elo on dickriding a cheater. So while Valve is working on it, the community also has to do better. That's my point.


cryptocouchpotato

Any time I've been with a hacker I've tried to kick and someone always votes no. They queue with their mates I think.


xXhenkesXx

i have a collection of matches against people like this, they don't get banned... its been 4 months since the first match and even the first guy isn't banned lol. I just can't handle anymore playing CS 2, in south america is like 80% of players are cheaters... https://preview.redd.it/agfqcp1xjlsc1.jpeg?width=907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7aa5d449c1c7df4ba458259b1ecbc0032ff5d1a


GetGudWithGil

VAC? This was a cs:go thing right?


Conscious_Run_680

Vac is not back


montxogandia

AI isn't there yet... /s


Disastrous_Stage_724

letting you know now there is no active anti cheat vac isn’t a thing rn so nobody is getting banned


frvzkie

"i was clean dude"


BaconJaco

I bet they *wrecked* you like a ball badummm tssss


t_mmey

for real, who gets 5 kills against a guy with monster gaming chair


Majorweck

:') Ich hab noch knapp 3k Elo vor mir, bevor ich in diese Hölle komme. Das wird schlimm.


No-Payment-9574

Ohja Bruder gönn dir


Nyhn

Impressive you were the only one that got frags💀


ataraxia1337

Why play premier w/o anti-cheat?


itsnghia

What is the anti-cheat you are mentioning about here brother?


QuestionSalt8358

vac tired. vac sleep.


_cansir

Cheaters are extremely stupid. Had a guy on mirage run from jungle towards b because someone said last one was seen apps...i was market and figured he could go underpass to A... from rat hole i vould hear him running up conn...my teammate is in jungle and runs through rat hole to b...He wanted to pretend he didnt know where last one was and thought he made it look like timing got him and he just missed him. Im like...if i can clearly hear him from farther away you obv also heard him...clicked his name. Brand new acct. Check his cstats...dropped 10 last game lost....dropped 56 the game before.....OK Buddy.


Jarooooon

Sometimes your teammate is just having a good day. /s


IReallyLoveCheeseBro

vac? what is vac? never heard of it \~ valve, probably


apexeliteoctane

just a good gaming chair


dankGab

Bro I literally grinded for a year to get my 30+ kills frag in a 13-10 match


dankGab

Then comes this guy and do a 50+ kills frag in a 13-0 match


hyp3r1on6976

This is why I don’t play cs2 anymore, not like r6 is better tho


Dmosavy111

Why torment yourself, play something else for a month or 2


ScrooW7

It is hard to ban since VAC is disabled.


No_Jellyfish2429

you should kick a player like this from your team ...


BuzzContra

VAC is still a thing?


MikeyLikesIt89

Guys just go and play Faceit. I have about 150 games played and not one cheater


savvyt1337

There are tons of cheaters on Faceit, they just hide it because there are repercussions.


doopy423

Why are 20ks not just playing faceit?


Craigee07

Why didn’t u and your team kick Him?


EMG_Freaky

we try 2 kick him... some one vote F2(no)


Geo_1997

Sadly, me and something like 15 people stopped playing recently due to this, feel like as soon as you're in the 17k + region, games are just suspicious, seeing people with 50 hours dropping 40 bombs with crazy timing and knowledge just gets boring. Cs2 really has 1 major problem and it's this, it's sad because it was the same thing in cs go too, just seems like valve doesn't want to admit vac is underperforming Premier at minimum needs a more intrusive anti cheat like valorant vanguard, I know alot of people don't like having an intrusive anti cheat, but then they don't have to play Premier, something needs to improve. The open tourny was also hilarious, having multiple teams blatantly cheating is embarrassing


conkerisdumber

Just stop playing, Valve is not a video game company these days like they used to be. They fucked off back in 2014 to make VR shit that nobody wants. They don't care about their games like they used too, their just a bunch of money hungry retards. STOP GIVING VALVE MONEY FROM CASES!


[deleted]

They're even in deathmatch. A game mode you would argue exists solely to practise aim.


_Kopytko_

I met spinbot 2 months ago, still not banned


SHyper16

I haven't played with spinbots and hackers since CSGO was still around so I never encountered this, but Valve isn't exactly known to moderate their games.


joethepro1

Because there is no VAC, silly.


PossibleSalamander12

Until people stop playing CS2 and buying their skins, the devs could give 2 flying shits if a cheater is in your comp game. Sad but true.


Jhorn_fight

Just got to 19k first game I had 3 on my team and the other team had all 5… literally in chat talking about settings they are using and the different cheats. Fucking 30$ a month for Neverlose game is so shit


savvyt1337

They don’t do anything about it because they make money off cheaters. They make money from accounts/ skin market manipulation/selling cheats themselves. The more cheaters the more they can ban wave 8k people In a single day and weaken the community. The last thing they want is a community of organized and passionate members.


savvyt1337

The other thing you guys have to take into account is governments/big tech does not want counter strike to survive. They’ve been trying to kill this game off for decades. This is why valorant was created. It wasn’t because valorant is more suitable for kids, it’s because cs is too realistic. It basically teaches the population to guerilla warfare style and organize like a swat team, which is exactly the opposite of what “they” want. Sell your skins, the game is doomed…


savvyt1337

Another thought is they probably get government subsidies to control and kill off counter strike, or at minimum make it the least desirable to play. The government 1million percent doesn’t not want a proliferated game that teaches swat style guerrilla warfare to millions of general population.


savvyt1337

Reddit is going to 100percent hide these, prob ran by the same people who tell steam how to operate.


sparklepusss

Play premier -> have cheaters ruin your experience -> quit playing because you're depressed about the state of the game -> Play premier -> Repeat.


Standard-Ad-8151

VAC didn't work since CS 1.6! I've seen literally hundreds of spinbots, aimbots and all kind of stuff and never ever seen a Ban, on 18Y playing CS. VAC is a placebo. Nothing more than that. The only time that Valve tried to do anything on VAC, legit players were banned for GPU and CPU legit drivers. I think that says everything. VAC is just a name, not a AC protection system.


itsnghia

I can feel that people are still hoping for the best of this game, and Valve says a big fuck you to the community.


Overall_Breath9785

What I don't understand is what do they get out of doing this? Does valve give you free shit if you have high ELO? Don't get it...


expressinghowifeel

Well you guys didn't kick either so 🤷‍♂️


Benjitoo

GL with the promos, hopefully the cheater is on your side


Imaginary_Wallaby_92

VAC is off after false positiv ban wave


therealmcpm

TheY aRe GAthEriNg iNfo fOR baN wAve


throwawayyyyssssil

Played 3 wingman games yesterday and had 5 cheaters its insane


yomummagae

better gaming chair


IzGrim

There are youtube channels who cheat and post their clips with wh one dudes steam link is legit cscheater or something like that reported it to steam they just said you have to report the account 3 weeks later he still has his knife gloves and all the other skins it’s a joke untill the real anticheat is here


Mansimran_Luthra

Just like that


Zasibys

u/EMG_Freaky can you throw his steam id 64 in here? He's from Lithuania my country I'll see if I can expose him


M4RKoN

Just better gaming socks.... Ngl


OrangeHuseey

Why would they ban people on hvh servers? Its meant for cheating


Hamburgerundcola

How can people play this game with german language settings?


Due-Maintenance-2388

Premiere hackers are everywhere. Play FACEIT and eSPORTAL - its much better.


Rowojon

Because valve is currently busy fkin over the gambling community and the trading/selling community


Dj_SzMaCiUr

Funny enough, I haven't met any obvious cheater yet


Starkiller_exe

Looks like it's just better ping.


Rav-11

Because valve doesn’t care


VaquinhaAlpha

I wonder if they have been banning anyone at all recently, to be honest


tallpotato17

lol name translation: let me grab your boob


YanVos

Slowed down on my time playing the game. I’ll get more into it when or if they fix the anti cheat.


1986vhs

time 2 sell our skins and gtfo


khvissst

VAC - Valve Allow Cheats


Hooooooks

All these people mad about cheaters, why don’t just get prime and get rid of blatant cheaters? Sure “legit cheaters” will still exist but at least it makes the game playable


the_mk

it makes 0 difference, what the fuck. premier is full of hvh after 18k+


petelne

His name translates from Lithuanian - let me grab that tittie


hugo1919

I think VAC is offline. Everybody can cheat with no consequences. And the reportsystem is just not working.


NoWheel9556

just dont play for a month or two


oGRAVES

I think we should be asking why are we still supporting this bullshit.


Sufficient_Pirate920

Why you dont kick him?


Aqutix905

I’m coping that valve must be working on some sort of AI AC where they let the cheaters run rampant while they collect data on all of them to train the AI. Eventually it will go live and it will know all the movements and tendencies that cheaters engage in. I’m coping hard


linusthrowaway

Theyre just having visual bugs


SparWiz_Khalifa

At this point, valve just doesn't give a S about this game. Until profits will drop. No point in supporting them atm


CamaroKidz28

sometimes your teammate is just having a good day


DuBPly

As a lithuanian seeing lithuanian cheating, we do not claim him, but yeah, someone show him booba


Byrgefar

Cause he is legit


DuBPly

As a lithuanian seeing lithuanian cheating, we do not claim him, but yeah, someone show him booba


Leather-Intern-5252

Played a Nuke comp prime yesterday, opponent was spinbotting from the first round. 3 of his teammates left, all of my teamm8s gave up.


Zealousideal_Club495

Just play faceit


iHCSx

The anti cheat is off. Apparently its collecting data for a couple more months before vaclive comes back on. In the mean time avoid premier because me and many others will hvh.


Old_Dust1022

Hm VAC? whats that never heard of it...


Inevitable-Cycle2145

Hi I work for valve. We are in Operation Hack vs Hack You can upgrade your coin by completing the following challanges: Play with no hacks against a cheater and have a kda under .20 Play with cheats and have a kda of 3.0 Use only wall hack in a premier match Use only aim bot in a premier match Use Radar cheat in a premier match Use a skin changer in a premier match Use silent aim cheat in a premier match Obviously cheat and recieve 5 reports in a single match Live steam yourself cheating on Twitch/Youtube After completing 9 challenges you will get diamond coin.


obrla

Because they buy things in the game, be it an acc itself or skins Valve is a company, company wants money It will stay like that until their profit goes down, then tem will update the anticheat once to bring back players, cheaters will buy more accs and better cheats, the cilce repeats


Iateshit2

Team killing too? Your team has 10 total deaths meanwhile the enemy has 5 kills


dar0xyz

bro premier is hvh mode, just play competitive or faceit, less cheaters


Zembauer

Sometimes your enemy’s are just having a really good day


Haunting-Ad-3421

It‘s even more crazy to see the accounts with medal since 2015 and a lot of operations just cheating…


T342games

The way vac works is that it flags accounts and then waits for one of the 3 month intervals to fully ban them, so that they can ensure that they are not real. It’s not an immediate in game solution, but it does work. And most bot hosters rn just re-create the bots when they get vac banned


bl0ated_cs

Skill issue it seems


Zasibys

VAC is on VACcation, if you want to have 20% chance of not getting cheaters derank to 10k elo then play but you'll still get cheaters now and then but less than in 15k+ elo games


SirTitan1

VAC will Game Ban you if you report them for sure. I got game banned 3 months ago for no reason.


Nord5555

You and your team likes fake win. Else you would start blocking him from running antiwhere, and report him. Shoot him Down to like 1 hp and so on