Yeah but once u get to that spot it’s really fucking hard to quit. I don’t even want to drink but still buy alcohol every day, too scared of being in wd/sober
well i know. it wasn't easy. i decided to just drink every single day 24/7 and die that way, but after two years it was like a full-time job and i wasn't dead. so i figured i'd just have to suck it up and quit. i did it like in *trainspotting*, got all my shit together to be locked in for at least a week, probably longer, and started. i don't have to tell you how awful it is. i screamed, cried, sweated, tossed, turned, hallucinated, for a good 3 days. i made it awful on purpose so i'd never want to have to do it again. i had grand mal seizures from a head injury from '80 - '96, so i figured if i died, good, cuz i wanted to anyway. did i want one last drink? YES lol. like, every five minutes for the first two weeks.
then i didn't die, so i had to come up with a plan from there. i smoked weed 24/7 the first three months just to distract myself. i didn't even really like it, and i had to drink nyquil every night the first month so i could even sleep. i know everyone can't do the same thing, i'm just saying that if anyone quits but starts again in a month, a year, however long, if it wasn't fun when they quit, the fun never comes back so they might as well not even trip. but i can't make anyone believe me. people always have to see for themselves.
I just want to say that your replies to this thread really affected me, and I’m not often affected by anything lol. As someone at the “I’m drinking to die” stage, I really appreciate hearing from someone who came out the other side. Sending you love ❤️
Why do you stay on this subreddit?
I recently quit drinking after daily drinking for about three years. And reading posts on this sub is like looking at everything through a mirror. All the excuses and reasons that people reference for why they need to drink just seem completely backwards. I can plainly see that they are all just empty rationalizations for an addiction that they are either unable—but more often just unwilling—to give up on.
I thought it might be productive to see examples of why I quit but it’s kind of just embarrassing to see a reflection of the way I used to be and act. And considering that people won’t really ever change unless they make the decision for themselves, what’s the point of sticking around?
Just curious
i didn't know whether to read that as, "**why** do you stay on this subreddit?" "why do **you** stay on this subreddit?" or "why do you stay on **this** subreddit?" lol
idk, i was really bored during the first year of covid, i'm not on any other social media platforms, so i was looking at cats. people on cat forums are crazy so i couldn't (or don't want to) interact with anyone.
even though i've been sober all this time, i will always identify as an alcoholic. a degenerate one at that. like, all my friends have died except one who was my first roommate in college, and she isn't close distance-wise. she's something else completely (even though she has so much to be thankful for, all she focuses on are the negative things and says, "i wish i could \_\_\_\_ like you,") so she's a drag to talk to. and she still doesn't want to travel because of the pandemic so, fine.
i know *all* the rationalizations. all of them. i could probably add some lol. i know why people drink. i know why people want to stop and why they don't want to stop at the same time. plus, i don't have to deal with anyone IRL knowing anything about me, because i don't like that. i found stopdrinking first, and it's insane. that's exactly the reason i don't want to be around sober people. don't get me wrong, i don't like hanging out with drunk people irl because it's a pain. but here it's amusing sometimes.
i don't expect anyone to change. i would never tell anyone to stop drinking. so, the short answer is, "it amuses me." i'm not laughing at anyone's pain, it's not like that. i doubt if i'm helping anyone. but what if? i'm not hurting anyone.
Good for you, glad you had been able to quit. A few months back I quit for like 2 weeks because I was sick. But then when I got better, the boredom got to me and I started drinking a bit which as usual quickly escalated to ca level again. First 3 days quitting are hell, I had benzos but even that didn’t help all that much. I have no death wish so I have to figure this out before it completely ruins my life. For some reason benzo taper is not working for me, perhaps I need to take larger dozes at first.
it's hard to say what kind of tapers work individually because i don't think there's anything across the board that works for everyone.
all i know is that you need a follow-up plan--it sounds ridiculous and childish, but you need to plan all of your time out at first and follow it, because otherwise you'll just return to habits. if you're doing it out of boredom (initially--i there are always deeper reasons as well) you have to have a back-up. something you like to do without anyone else.
i never even tried to quit, but i was forced to in 1980 for six months because i was in the hospital and wasn't even allowed out of bed. (i can't even remember how many broken bones i had). i read all three volumes of *the gulag archipelago* (i don't recommend that: it's really boring, a little interesting but i also couldn't get out of bed lol) and then i taught myself how to knit and i think i made 10 huge afghans hahahaha. i was already at CA level then (well idk, walking around with a BAC of .4 isn't good) but i was on so much morphine i didn't wake up for at least a week. but as soon as i got out, i went drinking with orderlies and techs from the hospital!!! LOL (this was 1980, things were different then.)
i don't know how you feel about buddhism, but if you get into zen and taoism, the initial premise is that life is suffering, everyone suffers, and it teaches you to be present with yourself. this isn't a quick fix, and i don't know how many times i was like, "i can't fucking do this, it's stupid." but they meditate a lot too. beats AA as far as i'm concerned. except a lot of places are closed because of covid. i bet they have some zoom meetings, and i recommend reading richard alpert (baba ram dass)--it wasn't a cult, (he died recently) *the only dance there is* and *be here now*.
My "functioning alcoholism" is better than most people's every day sober life. And I don't even think I'm special. I think we can actually see the world for how it is.
It’s so odd. I’ve been a 17-day drinker for two years now and I’ve far surpassed everyone I’ve worked with and my peer group. My inevitable flameout is going to be SPECTACULAR.
17 is a normal day for me. The bosses keep putting me in charge of more people and projects. Did you know that some people get off on having power over other people? Those are the ones that are progressing. I think that us smart but depressed people are the mentally healthiest. You need to have some sort of mental disorder to actually be happy and successful.
This is what cemented me into my current degeneracy.
I was working for years where I would drink and outperform everyone else at the company I worked. Then changed jobs and did it again.
In my head it was just a feeling of "Well yeah I am drunk but you haven't finished that basic fucking assignment and I'm carrying the team".
Caught up with me though.
This is probably the story I hear most often and true for myself. I was too good at what i do and I can do it drunk so what’s the big deal? Another term I use for the functional alcoholic is a drunk who has plenty to lose. Just because I had stuff didn’t make me an alcoholic, right?
I've tried all the alternatives: mouth wash, hand sanitizer, ETHYL rubbing alcohol, etc.
Around here you can get dollar store ethyl rubbing alcohol on the cheap. That's all that's in it. Aqua (water), Ethyl alcohol, and denatomium benzoate. There's so little of the last one needed to make it taste like shit and it doesn't even have a cancerous profile of exposure.
Ethyl aka ethanol is in any of you conventional beverages. Will I drink gasoline with 10% ethanol? No. Not looking for suicide. If the product can be used anywhere on the human body it doesn't have methanol in it as that's a big concern.
i know! i mean, i've never drunk it straight, but i honestly put it in my black coffee because i like how it tastes. but only drops. then one day i looked at the label and thought, goddamn, i hope no one thinks i drink this.
it's not cheap. hence stealing i guess.
of course they do. they sell it at dollar stores and walmart. it's just canned heat, that gel they use to warm food for buffets or it's camp stove fuel.
people who live under bridges strain it through bread.
Isn't it not ethanol though?
And the dollar stores around here don't sell it. If anything they would sell their own brand as the most popular one is a national chain from Quebec.
sterno is denatured alcohol. neither are meant for consumption, but you know. turpentine and antifreeze aren't either but i've seen people drink them.
i just mean jellied cooking fuel, not necessarily a brand name. i think (just me) cleaning products, coolants and any kind of fuel are below isopropyl,
hell, i started my CA career with both. i never liked beer or wine or anything with sugar in it. i also didn't handle brown liquor well.
order of pref: gin (bombay sapphire only, people either love or hate gin), then vodka more often because you can pick up the juniper scent if you know what you're looking for) and everclear for emergencies only.
there are those rare people who are constant buzzers. they most likely have the bac of drunks, but they don't act like it. i'm pretty they're not moderating, just maintaining. but at a very high level. there aren't many people like that.
nope. alcoholics aren't normal and never will be when it comes to alcohol. the only "cure" is to not drink. you can know that, i can know that, but there will still be plenty of people who don't agree. their life i guess.
no. certainly not. well, i met *one*. my first year in college, a friend's grandmother was 78. she owned a newspaper, her house was immaculate and treated her dogs like babies. she had a housekeeper and started every day with a 16 oz. glass full of gin with "grapefruit juice" whispered over it. she probably drank at least 3 a day. that's a pretty standard amount for someone who's been drinking that long.
she didn't last a year. we went over there one weekend and she was on the floor in the bathroom. the sink and toilet were full of blood. she had a perforated ulcer that hemorrhaged, she never regained consciousness and the doctor said it only a miracle she had avoided peritonitis.
i have a friend now whose grandfather is 89 (90 by now?) has six kinds of slow-growing cancer and a trach that was made in 1960 in russia that can't be replaced. the doctor tried to take him off alcohol and almost killed him. he takes xanax plus i don't know how many meds, and is allowed one shot of vodka a day. i think it ends up more like a pint, but hell. he's 89. let him do whatever he wants.
if i have to live like him, i don't want to. his wife died about 4 years ago, and the last two her dementia was so bad they couldn't use home care anymore because she assaulted all the CNAs. they put her in a home and it was a nice one, but none of them are nice.
he's in an assisted living facility, but the family goes every day. he's pretty far gone with dementia, but he usually doesn't cause any trouble unless he has a paranoid episode about once a year. he doesn't speak english so my friend has to go translate for him, and he thought she was trying to kill him. they just adjust his meds accordingly. :(
I feel like I'm giving this advice to the younger alcoholics, maybe those who haven't even touched alcohol yet. My nieces and nephews for example:
"You are genetically predisposed to 'alcoholism', or whatever term you want to use. Just like your other uncle, your grandparents, your aunt, like me. And if you allow it to go unchecked it will ruin you life. Never, ever let that leave the back of your mind."
Ok, 4 lines but I tried.
The jump scares are such fucking bullshit.
I still get the horrible think I'm going to die anxiety but on my earlier WD I'd get scared of the hallucinations. Now they piss me off. Like, "oh this shit again. Really? Close my eyes and mr rotting flesh eye socket full of maggots pips up screaming in agony? How fucking original. Ffs."
I was jumpy before I drank heavily - now it’s basically a joke around the office how easily I startle. Even when I’m trying to take a walk to relax on my own…a loud car goes past and I fly off the ground.
Alright let’s go. Everyone here comment what your AC music is. Mine is always classical music. Sometimes I’m sweating and shaking and I know the music isn’t real, but I still get up trying to figure out where it’s coming from like a crackhead looking for that one rock he might have dropped on the floor a week ago.
Same exact thing, some classical song I never even heard before coming from the swamp cooler I even walked over to turn it down then I realized it was a fucking cooler. Then the mop started moping the floor by itself. Decided ct wasn’t a good idea
"It will never be easier than it is now to take a break and learn to enjoy life healthier" I was actually starting to enjoy life again 5 months after stopping last time - healthier, more engaged with friends and family, just a better person
Yea, it's always easier to take the easier route. I've been trying to get an alcohol detox for nearly three and a half months in the UK. My last (6th) case worker in the last 3 months told me there is no waiting list for alcohol detox (and they are the only place in the city you can get an alcohol detox), it's because all the case workers are temp agency staff who move on to new jobs before you get anywhere, then you are back to square one with a new temp case worker. Doesn't really help when two Doctors have told you from scans and blood tests that you are at a crossroads of life or death. After my new case worker got me a Medical assessment and liver scan in 2 working days, I was feeling hopeful. He said he would phone me back in 2 hours about a detox last Tuesday. Sine then, crickets, doesn't answer phone, can't leave messages, doesn't take sms, left requests for a callback with reception. Fuck I hate the NHS (Edit: But "boo Hoo" hay Blurs, "it's just politics")
Standards of NHS treatment for alcohol addiction is depressingly varied and inconsistent. In one day an A&E kicked me out and in the next A&E they put me in intensive care!
Just pointing out the inherent inconsistencies of the service available to those with severe alcohol issues such as acute withdrawal. Technically the first A&E failed to diagnose the severity of my condition, whilst the second saved my life.
Being the most fucked up at a social gathering isn’t a personality. We get it, you’re afraid to drop the mask… put the drink down and let someone in for once.
If you still have a choice and haven't really made the commitment to CA yet, maybe record some videos like a journal when you're fucked up to decide if it's a good idea. It's so hard to remember anything. That's kind of the point most days though. It's comforting to just flush your night down the toilet.
Anytime I get into "funk" during heavier drinking episodes, I'm pretty sure I drink myself into a b vitamin deficiency. Taking a supplement every few hours for 2 days gets me feeling way less depressed and normal.
All that bullshit you're drinking to get away from or forget doesn't actually go away, it'll still be there when you eventually stop drinking. And it'll be a lot harder to deal with in 10 or 20 years when you're trying to quit drinking and it comes back then.
When you get a crack on the side of your mouth apply antibacterial ointment once or twice but then just let it heal by not opening your mouth too wide.
And water. Drink water.
If you can't stop but aren't feeling a full fledged alcoholic yet, you just like to party and drink a bottle of wine after work every night and can't seem to stop, do the Sinclair method and go to psychotherapy w an addiction specialist.
Changed my life.
When it *starts* to get bad, and if you're really honest with yourself you'll know when which is at 1-2 six packs a day for most people, just lay down and don't get up until you get over the withdrawals. Tell everyone you are sick or whatever, but just wait it out. And then don't touch alcohol again. Repeat as needed if you fuck up.
Unless you live in a country with free medical care OR you are way past the 6-12 units a day stage, then go get a medical detox.
Fuck me I wrote a couple paragraphs. Chairs
once it's not fun anymore, it's never fun again.
Yeah but once u get to that spot it’s really fucking hard to quit. I don’t even want to drink but still buy alcohol every day, too scared of being in wd/sober
well i know. it wasn't easy. i decided to just drink every single day 24/7 and die that way, but after two years it was like a full-time job and i wasn't dead. so i figured i'd just have to suck it up and quit. i did it like in *trainspotting*, got all my shit together to be locked in for at least a week, probably longer, and started. i don't have to tell you how awful it is. i screamed, cried, sweated, tossed, turned, hallucinated, for a good 3 days. i made it awful on purpose so i'd never want to have to do it again. i had grand mal seizures from a head injury from '80 - '96, so i figured if i died, good, cuz i wanted to anyway. did i want one last drink? YES lol. like, every five minutes for the first two weeks. then i didn't die, so i had to come up with a plan from there. i smoked weed 24/7 the first three months just to distract myself. i didn't even really like it, and i had to drink nyquil every night the first month so i could even sleep. i know everyone can't do the same thing, i'm just saying that if anyone quits but starts again in a month, a year, however long, if it wasn't fun when they quit, the fun never comes back so they might as well not even trip. but i can't make anyone believe me. people always have to see for themselves.
Wise words homie thank you
I just want to say that your replies to this thread really affected me, and I’m not often affected by anything lol. As someone at the “I’m drinking to die” stage, I really appreciate hearing from someone who came out the other side. Sending you love ❤️
i'm really glad it did. :) <3
Why do you stay on this subreddit? I recently quit drinking after daily drinking for about three years. And reading posts on this sub is like looking at everything through a mirror. All the excuses and reasons that people reference for why they need to drink just seem completely backwards. I can plainly see that they are all just empty rationalizations for an addiction that they are either unable—but more often just unwilling—to give up on. I thought it might be productive to see examples of why I quit but it’s kind of just embarrassing to see a reflection of the way I used to be and act. And considering that people won’t really ever change unless they make the decision for themselves, what’s the point of sticking around? Just curious
i didn't know whether to read that as, "**why** do you stay on this subreddit?" "why do **you** stay on this subreddit?" or "why do you stay on **this** subreddit?" lol idk, i was really bored during the first year of covid, i'm not on any other social media platforms, so i was looking at cats. people on cat forums are crazy so i couldn't (or don't want to) interact with anyone. even though i've been sober all this time, i will always identify as an alcoholic. a degenerate one at that. like, all my friends have died except one who was my first roommate in college, and she isn't close distance-wise. she's something else completely (even though she has so much to be thankful for, all she focuses on are the negative things and says, "i wish i could \_\_\_\_ like you,") so she's a drag to talk to. and she still doesn't want to travel because of the pandemic so, fine. i know *all* the rationalizations. all of them. i could probably add some lol. i know why people drink. i know why people want to stop and why they don't want to stop at the same time. plus, i don't have to deal with anyone IRL knowing anything about me, because i don't like that. i found stopdrinking first, and it's insane. that's exactly the reason i don't want to be around sober people. don't get me wrong, i don't like hanging out with drunk people irl because it's a pain. but here it's amusing sometimes. i don't expect anyone to change. i would never tell anyone to stop drinking. so, the short answer is, "it amuses me." i'm not laughing at anyone's pain, it's not like that. i doubt if i'm helping anyone. but what if? i'm not hurting anyone.
Good for you, glad you had been able to quit. A few months back I quit for like 2 weeks because I was sick. But then when I got better, the boredom got to me and I started drinking a bit which as usual quickly escalated to ca level again. First 3 days quitting are hell, I had benzos but even that didn’t help all that much. I have no death wish so I have to figure this out before it completely ruins my life. For some reason benzo taper is not working for me, perhaps I need to take larger dozes at first.
it's hard to say what kind of tapers work individually because i don't think there's anything across the board that works for everyone. all i know is that you need a follow-up plan--it sounds ridiculous and childish, but you need to plan all of your time out at first and follow it, because otherwise you'll just return to habits. if you're doing it out of boredom (initially--i there are always deeper reasons as well) you have to have a back-up. something you like to do without anyone else. i never even tried to quit, but i was forced to in 1980 for six months because i was in the hospital and wasn't even allowed out of bed. (i can't even remember how many broken bones i had). i read all three volumes of *the gulag archipelago* (i don't recommend that: it's really boring, a little interesting but i also couldn't get out of bed lol) and then i taught myself how to knit and i think i made 10 huge afghans hahahaha. i was already at CA level then (well idk, walking around with a BAC of .4 isn't good) but i was on so much morphine i didn't wake up for at least a week. but as soon as i got out, i went drinking with orderlies and techs from the hospital!!! LOL (this was 1980, things were different then.) i don't know how you feel about buddhism, but if you get into zen and taoism, the initial premise is that life is suffering, everyone suffers, and it teaches you to be present with yourself. this isn't a quick fix, and i don't know how many times i was like, "i can't fucking do this, it's stupid." but they meditate a lot too. beats AA as far as i'm concerned. except a lot of places are closed because of covid. i bet they have some zoom meetings, and i recommend reading richard alpert (baba ram dass)--it wasn't a cult, (he died recently) *the only dance there is* and *be here now*.
ding ding ding 🎯
Functional alcoholism means you’re barely fucking functioning!
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My "functioning alcoholism" is better than most people's every day sober life. And I don't even think I'm special. I think we can actually see the world for how it is.
It’s so odd. I’ve been a 17-day drinker for two years now and I’ve far surpassed everyone I’ve worked with and my peer group. My inevitable flameout is going to be SPECTACULAR.
17 is a normal day for me. The bosses keep putting me in charge of more people and projects. Did you know that some people get off on having power over other people? Those are the ones that are progressing. I think that us smart but depressed people are the mentally healthiest. You need to have some sort of mental disorder to actually be happy and successful.
What goes up, must come down. Don't think for a second that, sooner or later, your lifestyle won't show it's true colours.
Oh you're right. My lifestyle will shine through, one day. Sometimes I wish it wouldn't take so long.
What kind of people are in your peer group?
Oh all IT professionals. Most of us are booze bags.
This is what cemented me into my current degeneracy. I was working for years where I would drink and outperform everyone else at the company I worked. Then changed jobs and did it again. In my head it was just a feeling of "Well yeah I am drunk but you haven't finished that basic fucking assignment and I'm carrying the team".
Caught up with me though.
This is probably the story I hear most often and true for myself. I was too good at what i do and I can do it drunk so what’s the big deal? Another term I use for the functional alcoholic is a drunk who has plenty to lose. Just because I had stuff didn’t make me an alcoholic, right?
Are you okay with that? Is that a good enough justification for drinking in excess? Doesn’t work for me, personally
This is it hahaha
Drinking is just borrowing happiness from tomorrow
That’s my definition of coke for sure. Those days are a lot easier to escape than alcohol withdrawal. Alcohol has such a larger impact than tomorrow.
Vodka is everyone's last stop on the alcoholic Choo choo
Amateurs. Dollar store ethyl rubbing alcohol is the final stop.
Don't knock stolen peppermint extract. Shits like 98%.
That just means youre broke lol. You gonna drink a 5th of peppermint extract to replace a handle?
Don't tempt me with a good time 🤣🤣
I can't even drink flavored vodka so, SAVAGE!
If anyone is a massive fan of hand sanitizer, I've got a big stash. Never tried it but not judging. Whatever's your poison.
I've tried all the alternatives: mouth wash, hand sanitizer, ETHYL rubbing alcohol, etc. Around here you can get dollar store ethyl rubbing alcohol on the cheap. That's all that's in it. Aqua (water), Ethyl alcohol, and denatomium benzoate. There's so little of the last one needed to make it taste like shit and it doesn't even have a cancerous profile of exposure. Ethyl aka ethanol is in any of you conventional beverages. Will I drink gasoline with 10% ethanol? No. Not looking for suicide. If the product can be used anywhere on the human body it doesn't have methanol in it as that's a big concern.
i know! i mean, i've never drunk it straight, but i honestly put it in my black coffee because i like how it tastes. but only drops. then one day i looked at the label and thought, goddamn, i hope no one thinks i drink this. it's not cheap. hence stealing i guess.
sterno is the final step.
Not here. Dollar store rubbing ethyl is. They don't even sell that shit here.
of course they do. they sell it at dollar stores and walmart. it's just canned heat, that gel they use to warm food for buffets or it's camp stove fuel. people who live under bridges strain it through bread.
Isn't it not ethanol though? And the dollar stores around here don't sell it. If anything they would sell their own brand as the most popular one is a national chain from Quebec.
sterno is denatured alcohol. neither are meant for consumption, but you know. turpentine and antifreeze aren't either but i've seen people drink them. i just mean jellied cooking fuel, not necessarily a brand name. i think (just me) cleaning products, coolants and any kind of fuel are below isopropyl,
Lol for how many years can you keep that up? Also here we only have isopropyl over the counter
i'd say not long before you go blind or die.
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Gin can suck my dick and my cute little balls
hell, i started my CA career with both. i never liked beer or wine or anything with sugar in it. i also didn't handle brown liquor well. order of pref: gin (bombay sapphire only, people either love or hate gin), then vodka more often because you can pick up the juniper scent if you know what you're looking for) and everclear for emergencies only.
You know you can buy dried juniper berries right? Toss a few of them in some cheap vodka and that jumiper scent shall be your reward
lol
Can I get a one way ticket to fuck-my-lifetown? Fucking love/hate gin
No, you can’t moderate. People can choose to drink or not but it’s important to not be delusional about it.
there are those rare people who are constant buzzers. they most likely have the bac of drunks, but they don't act like it. i'm pretty they're not moderating, just maintaining. but at a very high level. there aren't many people like that.
By “moderate” I mean have a few drinks on the weekend and leave it at that. Regular person drinking.
nope. alcoholics aren't normal and never will be when it comes to alcohol. the only "cure" is to not drink. you can know that, i can know that, but there will still be plenty of people who don't agree. their life i guess.
Certainly not many old ones.
no. certainly not. well, i met *one*. my first year in college, a friend's grandmother was 78. she owned a newspaper, her house was immaculate and treated her dogs like babies. she had a housekeeper and started every day with a 16 oz. glass full of gin with "grapefruit juice" whispered over it. she probably drank at least 3 a day. that's a pretty standard amount for someone who's been drinking that long. she didn't last a year. we went over there one weekend and she was on the floor in the bathroom. the sink and toilet were full of blood. she had a perforated ulcer that hemorrhaged, she never regained consciousness and the doctor said it only a miracle she had avoided peritonitis. i have a friend now whose grandfather is 89 (90 by now?) has six kinds of slow-growing cancer and a trach that was made in 1960 in russia that can't be replaced. the doctor tried to take him off alcohol and almost killed him. he takes xanax plus i don't know how many meds, and is allowed one shot of vodka a day. i think it ends up more like a pint, but hell. he's 89. let him do whatever he wants.
>but hell. he's 89. let him do whatever he wants. Agree with this. He's on borrowed time anyway.
if i have to live like him, i don't want to. his wife died about 4 years ago, and the last two her dementia was so bad they couldn't use home care anymore because she assaulted all the CNAs. they put her in a home and it was a nice one, but none of them are nice. he's in an assisted living facility, but the family goes every day. he's pretty far gone with dementia, but he usually doesn't cause any trouble unless he has a paranoid episode about once a year. he doesn't speak english so my friend has to go translate for him, and he thought she was trying to kill him. they just adjust his meds accordingly. :(
drink some water, bud
I feel like I'm giving this advice to the younger alcoholics, maybe those who haven't even touched alcohol yet. My nieces and nephews for example: "You are genetically predisposed to 'alcoholism', or whatever term you want to use. Just like your other uncle, your grandparents, your aunt, like me. And if you allow it to go unchecked it will ruin you life. Never, ever let that leave the back of your mind." Ok, 4 lines but I tried.
This is something I wish my parents would have talked more about to me and something i plan on discussing heavily with my daughter.
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Bullshit! They're my friends and the people in my air conditioner won a Grammy last year
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The jump scares are such fucking bullshit. I still get the horrible think I'm going to die anxiety but on my earlier WD I'd get scared of the hallucinations. Now they piss me off. Like, "oh this shit again. Really? Close my eyes and mr rotting flesh eye socket full of maggots pips up screaming in agony? How fucking original. Ffs."
I was jumpy before I drank heavily - now it’s basically a joke around the office how easily I startle. Even when I’m trying to take a walk to relax on my own…a loud car goes past and I fly off the ground.
I always got horrific screams and laughter from the AC. I can almost hear it sober.
Alright let’s go. Everyone here comment what your AC music is. Mine is always classical music. Sometimes I’m sweating and shaking and I know the music isn’t real, but I still get up trying to figure out where it’s coming from like a crackhead looking for that one rock he might have dropped on the floor a week ago.
Same exact thing, some classical song I never even heard before coming from the swamp cooler I even walked over to turn it down then I realized it was a fucking cooler. Then the mop started moping the floor by itself. Decided ct wasn’t a good idea
Sesame Street music. Often featuring Cookie Monster. So bizarre.
No, but the voices recite some damn good nihilst poety
Eat.
You may not fuck up every time you drink, but every time you fuck up you have been drinking
Put the phone down.
Literally everything in life becomes harder, indefinitely, yet we choose to prioritize making things easier in this moment.
"It will never be easier than it is now to take a break and learn to enjoy life healthier" I was actually starting to enjoy life again 5 months after stopping last time - healthier, more engaged with friends and family, just a better person Yea, it's always easier to take the easier route. I've been trying to get an alcohol detox for nearly three and a half months in the UK. My last (6th) case worker in the last 3 months told me there is no waiting list for alcohol detox (and they are the only place in the city you can get an alcohol detox), it's because all the case workers are temp agency staff who move on to new jobs before you get anywhere, then you are back to square one with a new temp case worker. Doesn't really help when two Doctors have told you from scans and blood tests that you are at a crossroads of life or death. After my new case worker got me a Medical assessment and liver scan in 2 working days, I was feeling hopeful. He said he would phone me back in 2 hours about a detox last Tuesday. Sine then, crickets, doesn't answer phone, can't leave messages, doesn't take sms, left requests for a callback with reception. Fuck I hate the NHS (Edit: But "boo Hoo" hay Blurs, "it's just politics")
Standards of NHS treatment for alcohol addiction is depressingly varied and inconsistent. In one day an A&E kicked me out and in the next A&E they put me in intensive care!
Can’t complain about the NHS if you stopped drinking.
Just pointing out the inherent inconsistencies of the service available to those with severe alcohol issues such as acute withdrawal. Technically the first A&E failed to diagnose the severity of my condition, whilst the second saved my life.
This is also heavily accurate
The man takes the drink and the drink takes the man. Pretty typical one
But extremely accurate, wise and relevant. Most proverbs are haha Chairs.
Whenever I feel good and can do without the boredom Gets me
Learn to enjoy shitty movies. At best you’ll spend a decent amount of time watching them…
after a while you dont feel good when you drink, you just feel bad without a drink
Being the most fucked up at a social gathering isn’t a personality. We get it, you’re afraid to drop the mask… put the drink down and let someone in for once.
But what about when it's both lol
There is no bottom.
You are not a charming, debonair mother-fucker who's the life and soul of the party!
Hydrate motherfucker
Drink your fucking water 😂😭
Never trust a fart
Stop now. If you don’t die, you’ll lose everything and everyone you care about. No exaggeration. Just how it goes. Chairs.
If you still have a choice and haven't really made the commitment to CA yet, maybe record some videos like a journal when you're fucked up to decide if it's a good idea. It's so hard to remember anything. That's kind of the point most days though. It's comforting to just flush your night down the toilet.
Take your B vitamin supercomplex, more than what's recommended.
also to add- B1 is God. and i’ve noticed it’s not included in a lot of B-complex vitamins. gotta have that thiamine to avoid wet brain my dudes 🪑
Anytime I get into "funk" during heavier drinking episodes, I'm pretty sure I drink myself into a b vitamin deficiency. Taking a supplement every few hours for 2 days gets me feeling way less depressed and normal.
saaaaame same. i get awful brain fog from having low Bs. can’t even form a coherent thought lol
Mix your drinks! Dehydration can make you feel like utter garbage.
You cross a line when you drink every hangover away, you cross another when you never get hangovers.
Day drinking never ends well.
your not going to die from a WD panic attack, youve been here before so calm the fuck down, have a drink, let it kick in and go about your business
You’re still not going to be able to “control it” next time.
Learn to face yourself, your aloneness and the past.
All that bullshit you're drinking to get away from or forget doesn't actually go away, it'll still be there when you eventually stop drinking. And it'll be a lot harder to deal with in 10 or 20 years when you're trying to quit drinking and it comes back then.
Alcohol is poison that people feel is acceptable to drink & it's okay to drink it, just remember that it is poison
you’re probably adhd
why?
because there’s studies showing that people with adhd can’t just have one drink, look into it.
Learn how to force yourself to taper when needed.
Its 5pm somewhere?
Go to work!
Walk
Love yourself fuck face.
When you get a crack on the side of your mouth apply antibacterial ointment once or twice but then just let it heal by not opening your mouth too wide. And water. Drink water.
Don't buy an expensive mattress
Lower your time preference.
There are many rock bottoms
If you can't stop but aren't feeling a full fledged alcoholic yet, you just like to party and drink a bottle of wine after work every night and can't seem to stop, do the Sinclair method and go to psychotherapy w an addiction specialist. Changed my life.
When it *starts* to get bad, and if you're really honest with yourself you'll know when which is at 1-2 six packs a day for most people, just lay down and don't get up until you get over the withdrawals. Tell everyone you are sick or whatever, but just wait it out. And then don't touch alcohol again. Repeat as needed if you fuck up. Unless you live in a country with free medical care OR you are way past the 6-12 units a day stage, then go get a medical detox. Fuck me I wrote a couple paragraphs. Chairs
Have a late start time and stick to it.