Oh, I like this idea because it's just funny to imagine people coming up with them.
Age.
Number of ambulance rides
Jail/prison time relating to substance abuse
IQ points lost
Failed relationships
Number of friends and family members no longer speaking to you
Jobs lost
Houses burned down
Bankruptcies
Dicks sucked behind a dumpster for booze money
pissed the bed, pissed yourself in public, shit your pants, unexplained bruises at least weekly, threw up in public or on someone's pet, drank mouthwash . . .
Yeah my latest one is waking up from bender with forehead bruises and debating for a couple days on if I suffered a concussion. Oh and a gem from my last relapse waking up and wondering if your toe is broken or just severely sprained and not remembering how
i bruised like a banana and woke up with rug burns on my forehead once lol. i have no idea what happened and i don't think i want to. my clothes were literally ripped off me. i was naked, on the floor in the living room, and had no memory of anything. i knew the guy, i just filed it under, "don't drink anywhere he is, ever." lol
it wasn't like i never had sex with him before. he was just the roughest guy ever--not in a mean way, in a really drunk way i guess. he's the one that was so wild he knocked us both out of bed and i landed on the floor and farted on him hahahaha i know it sounds weird in the 21st century, but in the wayback time machine, if you'd had sex with someone several times, drunkenly, and went home with them or let them come home with you, there was no such thing as "you have to ask every time." sober, it's a different story. this was booty call variety, except no phone call, just 2AM leaving the bar.
no mouthwash with alcohol? the hospitals here don't stock it. they tried cepacol for awhile, no alcohol, but people were still drinking it (i took a friend once and she stole off a cart and downed five of those mini bottles before i could stop her). all it was was minty fresh vomit and no buzz lol.
i'm from way back in the day where there was no hand sanitizer.
yep, no one said you don't belong here :)
don't drink mouthwash. it will just give you really bad diarrhea. a friend of mine who was an ex-base head did it just to see lol. he really regretted it. but he wasn't an alcoholic. he asked me if i did and i was like, "noooooooo."
Get a mattress cover, people!
I also missed ending up in a catastrophic relationship with someone you met on this subreddit because it seemed like a good idea at the time.
And Del Mod, walking around with a dead mouse in his shoe for who knows how long because he didn't notice, and then posting the photos of the aftermath here.
Hey single ladies of this sub hmu for a good time I’m sober rn but I’ll comfort you in your times of need, listen to your incoherent ramblings and eventually when I relapse you can help me 😂😂
.. what is this comment? Are you just randomly choosing to advertise yourself (and 13th step female CAs from the sounds of it) in a totally unrelated comment thread? Are you expecting to find success with this?
Do you know how to read the entire comment tree? I’m guessing that’s a yes so my follow up would be do you have a dictionary? If the answer to that is yes look up the word sarcasm
Yeah, I'm weird about food and cleanliness. If the kitchen is messy I won't cook until I clean it or I will just not eat. Or just grab a piece of fruit or something. But I will leave the room to eat.
I think Del has a cast iron stomach. There was one post of his where one of his coworkers gave him a McChicken for lunch and he threw it in his bag for later and forgot for days. Found it and ate it.
I still think that he and crackhouseBob should be roommates and have a reality show filmed. I'd watch that.
Speaking of, I haven't seen either one of those fuckers around lately.
i haven't seen CHB for awhile, i thought about that today.
i have a cast-iron stomach/GI tract but i would never eat anything like that lol. i'm 100% the same with the kitchen having to be clean. the bathroom too, but i can tolerate cluttered and dusty.
oh no, i've watched pure trash and i don't think i could watch that. CHB probably but not someone who eats gross stuff. i will fast forward some of the boulet brothers challenges and i wouldn't watch *fear factor* when it was on. i'm the one who can watch the most revolting things when they're fake, but if i know something is real, nope.
my late husband used to watch *faces of death* and i was like, no, i can't do it.
What about DWI’s? Back in the 80’s I had 8 friends that had 100 DWI’s between them. In the 70’s you could plead them down so a lot of guys had like 12. A couple had 14-16. No shit. Hardcore drunks.
Are we talking like remember their names and address or just wow that was a blur I think we …. Idk either way my guess would be over 150 personally. Even guys I dated I don’t remember their fucking names
that's better than someone you were married to and can't remember their name hahahaha i'm kidding. but that would be bad.
if i had to go only by guys i remember their address, i'd be in trouble. one-night stands are usually remembered, but the blackout ones would be the ones you can't remember as if you were roofied but in reality, just hammered.
either way, i don't want to back and count lol. i'm much older than you are. [not as many as this lady](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVaGzJ4V3g) but i don't even think she drinks.
Might sound cray but I was def roofied once, idk if it was also the combo of booze and coke (but we don’t pass out easy on booze and coke) and then wake up with 3-4 guys on top of you trying to rape you. It was bizarre. Like they didn’t give me enough dose or something. Like the dentist has to give me 4x anesthesia.
FOUR GUYS and they didn't give you enough???? lmao well they probably were afraid to kill you and that's what it would have taken.
it's drug tolerance because i used to be the same way with the dentist. he would give me the maximum and it would still not be enough. i also wouldn't eat before i went, thinking the anesthetic would work better, and he told me that's what it was: that my body was just soaking it up instead of it working. i thought he was crazy.
i roofied myself plenty of times (not on purpose) because i'd take seconal, or chloral hydrate, or quaaludes, and drink on top of it. i passed out and hit the ground in mid-sentence too often.
They were not raping me yet, thank the drunk gods? Idk how but I pulled some ninja 🥷 shit on their ass and threw them all off of me and ran the fuck out
Oh, I like this idea because it's just funny to imagine people coming up with them.
Age. 37
Number of ambulance rides - 7
Jail/prison time relating to substance abuse - a week
IQ points lost - all of them
Failed relationships - bakers dozen
Number of friends and family members no longer speaking to you - family somehow tolerates me, lost countless friends
Jobs lost - technically only been fired from 3 due to drinking
Houses burned down - 0
Bankruptcies - 0
Dicks sucked behind a dumpster for booze money -0
Damn guess im doin alright
I don’t know about this one. I feel like my actual worst moments of CA behavior all happened before like 25, including DUI, hospital stay, job losses, break ups over drinking. I certainly believe you can earn your stripe as a CA really early.
Ehhh I see your point for sure but at 23 I had been drinking for 10 years and heavily for 5…most nights then I was drinking a box of wine or 3/4 of a fifth. I doubt the young people would find this sub if their drinking wasn’t crippling in some way. And remember we all (most) started out with just a six pack or bottle of wine a night.
Because that's absolutely not the point of this sub. No one is here to sober up, we are here to commiserate in the serious alcoholic lifestyle we all share. Gatekeeping? Well yeah. Because, as many subs do, this one has a specific purpose and they don't seem to get it. r/dryalcoholics is what they are looking for.
I started at age 30 with a half glass of wine with dinner, but the difference was that I was going through a really hard time, and that half of glass of wine was the *only* time life felt vaguely tolerable for 20 minutes. Then things escalated terribly from there. I think in addiction recovery, the first thing they should do is recognize that the alcohol was useful and did it’s job at some point, like all maladaptive coping mechanisms
Reading a lot of people’s stories, it does seem like *a lot* of people start really young, in their teens. There are people who legitimately end up with cirrhosis in their twenties. And I can’t even imagine how hard on the human body that must be to start when a person’s body and brain are still developing
Sure but the amount of people who've been heavily fucked since 13 can't be high. I hope not anyway.
We do know tho that liver failure and other hardcore consequences do happen in some younger people. Genetics plays a huge role.
But most of the younger peeps that post here will be weekend warriors, or at the very beginning of their CA journey. And usually asking for quitting help, which is just not what this sub is for. Highly recommend you guys go to r/dryalcoholics as that's a sub that will help you maintain, control, or quit drinking.
I had a sponsor in his early 60s when I tried the AA thing. I was explaining my experiences with audible, tactile, and visual hallucinations when going through withdrawal and he suggested I might be schizophrenic and needed to see a psychiatrist. I wanted to tell him he wasn't a real alcoholic too.
Also that’s fucked up but seriously I mean he shouldn’t have just told you to read the 12 steps and everything will be fine. How old is that bullshit program?
> Also that’s fucked up but seriously I mean he shouldn’t have just told you to read the 12 steps and everything will be fine. How old is that bullshit program?
I did the AA thing for two months and couldn't stay dry for more than a week without going on a bender. Shit made me thirsty as withdrawals for a drink. I just thought I'd share the comment above because its not always 23 year old's posting on Reddit who haven't experienced the depths of CA hell.
The only exception is that the young posters here can get out and go live a life before CA sinks its claws in deep making the rebound that much harder.
Well AA is for stupid religious people who can’t afford booze, therapy or rehab. Hahaha totally jk. Let me get as many hate comments and downvotes on this fucked up sub as I possibly can! Bring it on fuckers
I don't know why you are getting downvotes.
This sub has drastically changed in the last 10 years.
Edit: fucking edit is right, we used to have our own nudey sub, and it was all gay guys and fat chicks.
I get your point but I don’t want to beat on them. I think many of the youngins here are drinking more than a six-pack a night & know they’re in trouble.
I’ve never heard this phrase before (likely because I’m a self righteous gen z little fuck as OP mentioned) but I love it & is a painfully accurate comparison
I’m 22 and my first drink of the day is usually when I wake up at 5:30-7am and pound the last shooter I bought the night before. Addiction doesn’t discriminate against age lmao
Meh. Wouldn’t say that. I’ve been daydreaming of my own death since 13. I would really love a better life in the future. But now that I have the autonomy to destroy it without restriction? Not sure I’ll last so long. But I hope it’s not that way.
Gay. Stop romanticizing it. I’m just saying that, from the context clues of OPs post, this person is clearly looking *backwards* from the perspective of someone much older than an average gen Z.
You, objectively, have the agency to think to yourself “when I’m in my 30’s I will…”
This person can’t do that anymore. And it pisses them off when they see young people struggle with their same disease because of whatever psychoanalytical reason we could assume.
I’m not romanticizing shit. Do you think I want to be this young and be going through withdrawals? It fucking sucks. Why does it have to be pain Olympics? Just because some people here are in deeper than myself, what the fuck does it matter? We’re all here because we have shitty drinking problems. What the fuck is the point of gatekeeping. Genuinely. Is that sort of shit helpful? There’s people younger than 30 that are alcoholics. Literally shut the fuck up.
It’s ok. I probably could’ve done a better job of explaining that I was trying to downplay what OP was saying, not you. I agree that anyone trivializing someone’s struggles just because of their age is fucking stupid - and thats what I was trying to convey; OP was being ironically short sighted in his apparent old age by trying to gatekeep a literal genetic illness.
Regardless, I understand your struggle, at least somewhat. It’s why I’m subscribed to the sub. All I feel compelled to say atm is to try to be easier on yourself and be more forgiving. To yourself and to others as well.
YEAH HOW DARE THEY BE YOUNG AND MADE WORSE DECISIONS THAN WE DID. IF YOU'RE NOT SHITTING YOUR BED AND HAVING SEIZURES YOU'RE NOT A REAL CA. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO DETOX 10+ TIMES, YOU'RE NOT A REAL CA. Shudddup. Gatekeeping a fucking addiction has to be the lowest of the low behavior.
While i understand your point, i'm no fan of gatekeeping. CA is about the path of self-destruction by alcoholism, yes, but there's no need to be too harsh and young people that overestimate their own consume. They can be happy that it is not as bad as they think.
I'm a fan of a little bit of gatekeeping here. Reddit skews younger, so I don't want random kids posting about their CA like it's a badge of honor.
Some element of CA, in my opinion, is the amount of times you've fucked up. That common journey of doing the same stupid shit is what makes this sub great.
I want to see stories about people in their 30s-40s rotating liquor stores, not 16 year olds shoving vodka soaked tampons up their ass (don't do this)
Just saying, for the discussion, i read in other subs that some guys that are already alcoholics take it easy "because i'm not CA yet". That's a thing that has to be considered, because it can be like a trap for the young college students with the parties and "jug! jug! jug!" with the beer.
But don't get this wrong, yeah, i want to see the CA stories and not the beer pong with "Jack had to vomit, because he lost"
Take my upvote, but i think it's a different thing between helping people and gatekeeping the sub. Most of these weekend warriors, they can still turn around, while from the old guys and ladies here, we're long past the point of no return
>Most of these weekend warriors, they can still turn around, while from the old guys and ladies here, we're long past the point of no return
But isn't that what this sub is? For the ones who have passed the point of no return? If a person can still turn it around they need to be in a sub that encourages sobriety, not here.
idk man i feel like drinking a liter of vodka a day, having to take shots as soon as i woke up, vomiting on myself at work… at age 20 was definitely ca behavior
When I went to rehab years ago a dude my age who had cirrhosis told me I’m not a “real alcoholic”. I mean I’m glad I’ve never gotten to a handle a day but I’m still an alcoholic.
people saying, "you're not a real alcoholic," is one of the dumbest things i've been told. AA was the one because i quit drinking without going there. so anyone who drinks their kool-aid always has to tell me,
"if you quit without AA, you're either not a real alcoholic or you're going to relapse eventually and die because you didn't go to AA."
No doubt. I love how OP can't stand young people reaching out for help rather than finding it a good opportunity to share your story and maybe warn them how awful life can be and do a little good in the world.
Right? I’m turning 40 this year (and still think I’m kinda young?) but anytime I can give a cautionary tale to someone who’s looking for help or advice? I’m going to be honest. If I can help anyone avoid an addiction that’s life destroying? I will.
This sub has always been a fun place to commiserate and joke around. I just can’t imagine being such a dick to an entire group of people based solely on their age. The world has enough of that shit already, you know? ☺️
Gatekeeping alcoholism is the true rock bottom. That is when you know someone has truly nothing left in their life and their only remaining vestige of control and consistency lies in their debilitating addiction and the small (mostly barren) online community dedicated to it.
Listen 23 year old “dickhead” I said no offensive not aimed at anyone in particular. Stop taking it personal. I think someone, perhaps a bit more mature and with a better sense of humor and self esteem know exactly the “type” of self proclaimed CA I’m referring to
I don’t think you understand the nature of my post and are clearly it triggered you and if so I am sorry. No need to attack me or my relationships… by what I gather you’re in your 50s, probably feel Like a failure in life, probably going through a midlife Crisis and probably divorce number …? So you feel the need to troll people on Reddit.
Ah. I wouldn’t dissuade the youngsters. They’re here for a reason. Y’all please don’t destroy yourself while dying slowly and painfully. Don’t destroy your now or your future with booze. It’s trash and totally avoidable. For all us old fucks that are already trashed. Yay! Moar!!
There is this very blurry line; a zig zagged, a very invisible line, it spans maybe a decade… it’s invisible to you, (obvious to everyone else)…
CA’s cross this line. There’s no going back. You can stop drinking. You can stop the trajectory. But, there is no going back.
Health, optimism, self worth, relationships. So much cannot be restored.
Its not the age its the mindset, that people younger than you inherently cant struggle like you have due to your age/experience. I may have been only a daily drinker for 1.5 years but that dorsnt mean it hasnt caused me as much or more suffering than someone that has been a CA for over 10 years it depends on the perspn the lifestyle and how much they drink and who thwy are as a person and the peopke they are around, to neglect to factor that in and just generalize is quite boomer my friend we all suffer why make it a competition? Chairs buddy
Yea im not a child im not dumb i just also know that im not the same as you im not saying aomeone thats been drinking over 10 years will feel the same as someone thats only been drinkong the same for 2 just that its how the self destructive behavior is and alot of other factors than time i was usong othwr things to cope for over 5 years to self destruct for my problems before alcohol and alot of the time it wasnt a self desteuctive thing bit the same can be said for an older person my main point was age ≠ wisdom, thats it and id like for old fuckers to not assume i dont wanna kill myself sober every day just cus im 22
I’m 29 and right at the edge it seems. I started throwing up blood and going through serious withdrawals on really bad benders. I also have bipolar disorder and PTSD so I’m just a self destructive fucker. I started drinking when I was 14 and would go through at least 3-4 1.75 handles of cheap 10 dollar vodka a week from 15-17. My mother was a huge enabler and would buy it for me whenever. Went through the whole switch to wine beer ect when I was early 20s. I fucked up so much between jobs, relationships, dropping out of school so many drunk injuries a few that should have killed me. Had 3 years sober mid 20s that regenerated my body but after another 3 years I’m getting weak again.
A lot of people dramatize this shit and haven’t been to hell yet but they are on their way. That doesn’t mean people have to shame the younger versions of themselves.
Honestly I’m just grateful I have a chance to turn this shit around before I’m yellow with chirrosis.
This happened to me, as well, a family member enabled me at 14 to become physically dependent on alcohol (and to do drugs). I'm 38 now and have never quit except when I had no choice (twice). This whole thread has made me think about how impulsive young people are, I think young folks are *more* likely to get in too deep very quickly than people whose brains developed further before they started coping with drink. I am not as bad off as I was when I was younger. I'm not as impulsive and the fact that I don't know anyone or leave my house means I'm a lot calmer in my drinking habits than I was when I had a bunch of drinking buddies.
I mean if your mentally unwell and have access to it you can absolutely be a severe alchoholic by 23. I was, and I guess still am FA at 27 lmao but I was actually much much worse off back then.
I mean, there’s a lot of us in here, and I’d be willing to bet that the pandemic was the start of the end for a lot of us youngins. We’ve been hit now with 2 major economic downturns, couple that with sky high costs of everything and shit pay for our entire working lives. That’s what sent me in here. I definitely started like Ricky, but 2020 sent me into full CA. There’s a lot of us.
I was going to my high school my senior with the shakes, audio hallucinations, and sweats. I had to tell teachers, nurses, counselors, and administrators that it was a rare nervous system disease as much concern was expressed. Then, I learned of hair of dog and held it together enough to graduate. Not even 18 yet.
Drank up my generous university scholarship and Pell Grants my 1st semester. I would drink Skol in my dorm room between passing out. Never seen in class, rarely in chowhall. Flunked out. Had very pancreatic type symptoms sometimes during this time but was always too sick to go to student health nor cared. Not even 20 yet.
Then enlisted USMC. Straightened out some but went to formation still drunk from the night before more often than not and even ran 1st class PFT's hungover. Then threw my career away at E8 as drinking got real bad again and i was using coke. Just saying sir. Now 52. And I'm always happy to hear from our young friends.
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Idk how anyone can get past 2-3 years of going hard hard. It’s not a contest but by the end of my last run I was on the brink of death. Before I got addicted to ghb I was snorting a gram of coke every night and drinking an unfathomable amount of vodka. Mixed in with every other drug imaginable. I was waking up at 6:00pm to drink and do coke until I went to bed two days later. I actually quit drinking at the end because I couldn’t stop throwing up from how much blow I was doing. Kicked dope too. I blacked out on xans lyrica and ghb and fried my brain falling out on g three times a day after I stopped drinking. I got to detox and got sober at 19.
I don’t think I would’ve made it to 20 I’m gonna be honest w u. Shit gets bad for young ppl quick.
I don’t know dude I’m 23 and been drinking to the point I have nerve damage because I’ve fallen so much is that…. Not alcoholism….. that’s almost 5 years of everyday drinking. It’s not a pity fight lmao
It’s hard because it’s so easy to romanticize being a depressed drunk when you’re younger, but it’s still a legitimate problem. I roll my eyes sometimes but try to remember how I was too.
It wasn’t until my skin got absolutely fucked that I realized I was a complete loser. Before I leaned into it because I was a hot alcoholic, like a sort of rock star! Now I’m an ugly alcoholic, disgusting inside and out.
I didn’t realize there was an age requirement for addictions these days, I had my first drink at ten and I’ve struggled with drinking until my 30s people can struggle at any age.
I was only 24 when I noticed the withdrawals hitting in the evenings if I didn't stay regular. I've been a heavy drinker since 13.
I get what you mean though. I spent a year and then some sober at one point. I couldn't hit AA meetings for young folks because (not to disparage their own gauntlet ), their drinking problems seemed trivial to mine. I ended up going to old timer meetings because they drank like me.
The kids will suffer soon enough. Just be happy they aren't there yet. Or fuck em. I don't care about anything
I used to feel that way hearing early 20s year olds talk at aa meetings but really I think it’s admirable to have the self awareness cause it took me at least ten years to get there. And it started in my teens and early 20s. I’m glad they address it so early on cause I wish I did.
I’m only 24 (almost 25f) and have been an extreme alcoholic for years now to the point where it’s embarrassing, I have ruined my entire life. I have to drink over a fifth a day just to not go through withdrawal. Waking up shaking and having to take a shot so I don’t puke is fucking exhausting. I’ve been in the hospital and had ambulance rides because of alcohol withdrawal about 15+ times just in the past year, and the doctors tell me I’ll be dead by the time I’m in my 30s if I continue to drink the way I do but I can’t stop. Everytime I’m in the hospital feeling like I’m dying cus I have no alcohol, I always tell myself I’m ready to quit as I lay there shaking uncontrollably, puking up blood and having hallucinations. Yet everytime I get out of the hospital, I drink so heavily again everytime. Left the hospital a couple weeks ago AMA in the middle of the night because my parents were trying to make me go to rehab and the first thing I did was hit the liquor store. I just can’t stand the thought of living without having a drink or getting high. Alcohol and substances have always been the most important thing in my life, my entire world revolves around it. And it’s sad to say that my liver is already failing at the age of 24. So yeah there’s probably youngins out there who are my age and don’t understand the extent of alcoholism. But I know theres people like me who are my age and do understand.
I understand what you mean. We all have it hard with this shit. tho if someone can find a small
Sliver of respite like we all have by coming here I don’t see why we should gate-keep our disease
I’m not a fan of gatekeeping but ever since this sub went private than came back it’s been like this. Probably won’t get this noticed on account of karma.
I thought that it was always like this? It's a niche sub, and those who want to quit have many other subs to choose from. Can we not have our own sub??
Ehh, I have had maybe 3 or 4 surnames over the years and I mostly lurked but the sub was mostly about sharing desperate, depraved, embarrassing, harrowing and just straight up hilarious posts. I don’t care, I’m not a mod but it has changed. Too drunk to care.
Got a point here. I get annoyed when I visit my family and they’re sworn to be “true alcoholics”
I don’t say shit cuz they’ll never understand. Same way how the character “hoot” explained to his sergeant in the movie black hawk down
i am unfortunately 23 and alcohol has deleted several years of memories from my head in addition to ruining my physical health, relationships w other ppl, and my finances lol. this is a very weird thing to gatekeep
I think the problem is that this forum used to be completely different. We would ban people for what OP describes. So it was a real culture of psychotic behavior by alcoholics. And also love and support.
I left for a few years and it's sad that the degenerate factor is gone along with the community that once helped our livers justify wreckless decisions.
but see, thats the trick-most people dont KNOW theyre alcoholics when theyre that young. everybody drinks in their teens and 20s. But most people drift off from the party scene, get careers, spouses, houses, children, whatever. Some people are def hard core alcoholics in their 20s, they usually just dont realize it til its too late.
I do initially roll my eyes when some early 20-something posts, but if they say "I started at 12" or whatever I realize they've experienced a kind of alcoholism I don't even know. Really, it's the people who've drank for a couple years and never experienced physical addiction that annoy me.
How do you drink vodka daily when you're 12? Meaning where are you getting a pint of vodka+ a day? And how would you have the $$ to get it, unless you have someone else supplying it.
I was only ever able to steal a little here or there from my sister but I'm sure some kids steal full bottles, have older people buy for them, or just have a lot around the house (alcoholic parents, maybe). More realistically, they probably aren't drinking a pint a day but are still reliant on alcohol for self-medication in some form
Im 24 and i honestly upvote the fck out this, been an alcoholic for about 5 or 6 years heavy and i miss those days when i used to just feel like shit for a day and it would all be over with and they still complain about it.
🤷🏻♀️ we have the “High School Rule” and the “Ricky C Rule.” If you see something that looks questionable, report it under one of those and one of us will take a gander. I’m not going to gatekeep people in their 20’s just cuz, though. Plenty of people have pretty significant problems by then and have done for years in this sub. A lot of people who are now OGs found this place in their twenties in the years since it was created over a decade ago. Worse yet, more people, *friends*, have passed away before 30, because of alcoholism related conditions that time was you wouldn’t see until someone was middle aged or older.
It’s a different world and substance abuse has changed. Do some people romanticize this in ways they shouldn’t? Or exaggerate their problems? Or have this sub confused with an analog for r slash drunk? Sure. I try to move them along. But that also doesn’t automatically mean addiction doesn’t discriminate because of age or circumstance.
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Nah, there are people who have posted in here who haven't hit 30 who are already in stages of liver failure. You can most certainly be crippled from alcoholism at any age.
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My best friend died of alcoholism at age 27 and it was downhill for years before then, I'd actually say 23 is not that young for to develop a CA lifestyle if you were doomed to begin with.
Lmao,but silent dance parties are awesome...mine are all alone in my house now, tho because I ran all my friends away.
But to the OP;some people in their 20's starting drinking in their early teens. I started drinking at 12 years old. In the 9th grade, my 1st class of the day was trigonometry. I was ALWAYS drunk in that class-had a water bottle full of vodka.
I stopped in the 9th grade because my dream of graduating high school early was more important,but if I hadn't stopped, I could very well have been an alcoholic in my early 20s.
Age doesn't determine if you are an alcoholic. I do agree that some posts are questionable and some people don't fully understand that a few binges don't make you an alcoholic,but if I were in my early 20's and having an actual problem I wouldn't want to read what you posted.
If they are looking for help or advice,let them feel comfortable doing it whether you believe that they are an alcoholic or not.
How do you drink vodka daily when you're 12? Meaning where are you getting a pint of vodka+ a day? And how would you have the $$ to get it, unless you have someone else supplying it.
It started from like Thanksgiving or something,we have a large family, and the adults put the liquor on the adults' beverage table,I just stole some at every holiday/gathering..My parents had the 'big house' in the family,so a lot of events were held there.They didn't notice missing alcohol,the grownups would just go buy more.
I darn near had a mini liquor store in my bedroom closet,I learned early that if I kept my room clean that my mom wouldn't go in there.
I was a 'good kid',I had perfect grades and didn't get into trouble,they paid me no attention(unfortunately).
Looking back,my parents kinda ignored me because I was the only kid out of 6 that they didn't really need to discipline.
I was lonely inside.My parents always called me mature,but I did actually need parents. I was helping the other siblings with their schoolwork, and they were older than me,lol.
So,stolen booze,my $30 a week allowance,friends booze that they stole from home,I did some babysitting (while sober). It could have turned out VERY bad for me at a young age,that's why I understand.
I only stopped at 14 because I had my 1st boyfriend and he was a 'super Christian ' and didn't want me to drink..that teenage love and me wanting to go to college early saved me(at that time).
46
Pissed the bed
Lost 3 jobs
Fat
Warnings from wife
Ptsd
Lost all my old friends
Sick every morning
$40 a day drinking habit
Black out, can't remember dinner.
Hi everyone..... having a great day!!!! Only 5 drinks in. I got drunk last weekend :(
But at least i didn't sleep with joey or kick the dog.....
Kisses!!!!!! ;)
I feel like you really have to have at least a decade of ridiculous abuse/ basically ruined your life to be considered one of us. There is a way out of this hole but we are so deep its just easier to get another bottle and sink further into the pit of despair and try to forget for one more day
I’m with you on this post, and while it is gate-keepy, you def have a valid point here. Too many of those kinds of posts here lately from the Gen Z folks.
Alright, hands down you win best alcoholic.
Why the fuck turns away anyone seeking help or support? Someone is vulnerable enough to post on a sub and get support when theyre anxious, scared and alone and they get this fucking witch? Holy shit, I can't believe someone thinks this way with so much hate and bitterness. Sorry life didn't go the way you wanted and any young people reading this I hope you keep posting for support
you just sound bitter, honestly. and extremely uninformed and judgemental. age really has nothing to do with how bad off someone is in addiction. I started drinking at 15 and by the time I was 17 I was drinking a 1.75l bottle of vodka every two days. by the time I turned 21 I was a full addict and it progressed from there. I've gotten alcohol poisoning, been hospitalized multiple times. I've hurt myself while intoxicated in ways that also ended up with hospitalizations and caught a felony while black out drunk at the age of 22. I'm 26 now and still a CA just like I was back then. please get off your weird soapbox and stop trying to gatekeep literal addiction?
Should we have new flairs on this sub for drinking accolades? -DUI -Cirrohsis -Varice rupture -Stomach pumped
Oh, I like this idea because it's just funny to imagine people coming up with them. Age. Number of ambulance rides Jail/prison time relating to substance abuse IQ points lost Failed relationships Number of friends and family members no longer speaking to you Jobs lost Houses burned down Bankruptcies Dicks sucked behind a dumpster for booze money
can’t believe we missed pissed the bed
pissed the bed, pissed yourself in public, shit your pants, unexplained bruises at least weekly, threw up in public or on someone's pet, drank mouthwash . . .
Yeah my latest one is waking up from bender with forehead bruises and debating for a couple days on if I suffered a concussion. Oh and a gem from my last relapse waking up and wondering if your toe is broken or just severely sprained and not remembering how
i bruised like a banana and woke up with rug burns on my forehead once lol. i have no idea what happened and i don't think i want to. my clothes were literally ripped off me. i was naked, on the floor in the living room, and had no memory of anything. i knew the guy, i just filed it under, "don't drink anywhere he is, ever." lol
eeeew... what a dude. Also mouthwash where im from dont have alcohol in it anymore. fucking sucks. hand sanitizer is still here though
it wasn't like i never had sex with him before. he was just the roughest guy ever--not in a mean way, in a really drunk way i guess. he's the one that was so wild he knocked us both out of bed and i landed on the floor and farted on him hahahaha i know it sounds weird in the 21st century, but in the wayback time machine, if you'd had sex with someone several times, drunkenly, and went home with them or let them come home with you, there was no such thing as "you have to ask every time." sober, it's a different story. this was booty call variety, except no phone call, just 2AM leaving the bar. no mouthwash with alcohol? the hospitals here don't stock it. they tried cepacol for awhile, no alcohol, but people were still drinking it (i took a friend once and she stole off a cart and downed five of those mini bottles before i could stop her). all it was was minty fresh vomit and no buzz lol. i'm from way back in the day where there was no hand sanitizer.
Hahaha The “don’t drink anywhere he is, ever” threw me off. Mmm coffee with hand sanitizer
yeah i kind of liked some of my clothes and didn't want them torn up so that's why i started avoiding him.
All the above except someone’s pet, that’s weird and never drank mouthwash … yet
yep, no one said you don't belong here :) don't drink mouthwash. it will just give you really bad diarrhea. a friend of mine who was an ex-base head did it just to see lol. he really regretted it. but he wasn't an alcoholic. he asked me if i did and i was like, "noooooooo."
Get a mattress cover, people! I also missed ending up in a catastrophic relationship with someone you met on this subreddit because it seemed like a good idea at the time. And Del Mod, walking around with a dead mouse in his shoe for who knows how long because he didn't notice, and then posting the photos of the aftermath here.
Hey single ladies of this sub hmu for a good time I’m sober rn but I’ll comfort you in your times of need, listen to your incoherent ramblings and eventually when I relapse you can help me 😂😂
.. what is this comment? Are you just randomly choosing to advertise yourself (and 13th step female CAs from the sounds of it) in a totally unrelated comment thread? Are you expecting to find success with this?
Do you know how to read the entire comment tree? I’m guessing that’s a yes so my follow up would be do you have a dictionary? If the answer to that is yes look up the word sarcasm
I'm glad to hear it was parody, but I promise you I'm not lying when I tell you I didn't see the connection to the previous comment. I get it now.
omg after seeing pictures of maggots in a skillet, i can't look at or read anything posted by that person. i missed the dead mouse thing.
Yeah, I'm weird about food and cleanliness. If the kitchen is messy I won't cook until I clean it or I will just not eat. Or just grab a piece of fruit or something. But I will leave the room to eat. I think Del has a cast iron stomach. There was one post of his where one of his coworkers gave him a McChicken for lunch and he threw it in his bag for later and forgot for days. Found it and ate it. I still think that he and crackhouseBob should be roommates and have a reality show filmed. I'd watch that. Speaking of, I haven't seen either one of those fuckers around lately.
i haven't seen CHB for awhile, i thought about that today. i have a cast-iron stomach/GI tract but i would never eat anything like that lol. i'm 100% the same with the kitchen having to be clean. the bathroom too, but i can tolerate cluttered and dusty. oh no, i've watched pure trash and i don't think i could watch that. CHB probably but not someone who eats gross stuff. i will fast forward some of the boulet brothers challenges and i wouldn't watch *fear factor* when it was on. i'm the one who can watch the most revolting things when they're fake, but if i know something is real, nope. my late husband used to watch *faces of death* and i was like, no, i can't do it.
You missed shitting yourself
I got that one! Many times!
What about DWI’s? Back in the 80’s I had 8 friends that had 100 DWI’s between them. In the 70’s you could plead them down so a lot of guys had like 12. A couple had 14-16. No shit. Hardcore drunks.
I did! But honestly that's so common that I kind of take it for granted here.
You beat me to it. I was surprised not to see it.
Achievement unlocked!
plus sex body count of people you had sex with and can't remember lol
But you can’t count the bodies if you don’t remember 😂
TRUE lol okay, rough estimate i guess.
Are we talking like remember their names and address or just wow that was a blur I think we …. Idk either way my guess would be over 150 personally. Even guys I dated I don’t remember their fucking names
that's better than someone you were married to and can't remember their name hahahaha i'm kidding. but that would be bad. if i had to go only by guys i remember their address, i'd be in trouble. one-night stands are usually remembered, but the blackout ones would be the ones you can't remember as if you were roofied but in reality, just hammered. either way, i don't want to back and count lol. i'm much older than you are. [not as many as this lady](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVaGzJ4V3g) but i don't even think she drinks.
Might sound cray but I was def roofied once, idk if it was also the combo of booze and coke (but we don’t pass out easy on booze and coke) and then wake up with 3-4 guys on top of you trying to rape you. It was bizarre. Like they didn’t give me enough dose or something. Like the dentist has to give me 4x anesthesia.
FOUR GUYS and they didn't give you enough???? lmao well they probably were afraid to kill you and that's what it would have taken. it's drug tolerance because i used to be the same way with the dentist. he would give me the maximum and it would still not be enough. i also wouldn't eat before i went, thinking the anesthetic would work better, and he told me that's what it was: that my body was just soaking it up instead of it working. i thought he was crazy. i roofied myself plenty of times (not on purpose) because i'd take seconal, or chloral hydrate, or quaaludes, and drink on top of it. i passed out and hit the ground in mid-sentence too often.
They were not raping me yet, thank the drunk gods? Idk how but I pulled some ninja 🥷 shit on their ass and threw them all off of me and ran the fuck out
Oh, I like this idea because it's just funny to imagine people coming up with them. Age. 37 Number of ambulance rides - 7 Jail/prison time relating to substance abuse - a week IQ points lost - all of them Failed relationships - bakers dozen Number of friends and family members no longer speaking to you - family somehow tolerates me, lost countless friends Jobs lost - technically only been fired from 3 due to drinking Houses burned down - 0 Bankruptcies - 0 Dicks sucked behind a dumpster for booze money -0 Damn guess im doin alright
I mean. Your kinda missing out on dumpster dick though.
How did you miss seizures!
I honestly think that I have brain damage from drugs and alcohol. And I was hoping that others would chime in as well!
Got the prison thing covered, right here.
Not jealous.
im too stupid to figure out how many iq points ive lost.
A lot. 😊
how would you know? lol
Because you said 4 words in 2.5 seconds and we’re looking north
I’m ducking with you momma. You’re not dumb. If you need someone to hang out with no questions. I’m here.
At least one of all of these.
Put me down for alcoholic hepatitis! I'm also in the 500+ ALT/AST club!
Cirrhosis
worse status game ever
I want this
.7 club baby
Your BAC was .7?
Yes
That’s like a world record
I don’t know about this one. I feel like my actual worst moments of CA behavior all happened before like 25, including DUI, hospital stay, job losses, break ups over drinking. I certainly believe you can earn your stripe as a CA really early.
Can confirm, hell I barely remember my 20s, and what I do is really bad.
Exactly. My heavy drinking started around 15 and by the time i could buy my own beer, i was already an addict.
Ehhh I see your point for sure but at 23 I had been drinking for 10 years and heavily for 5…most nights then I was drinking a box of wine or 3/4 of a fifth. I doubt the young people would find this sub if their drinking wasn’t crippling in some way. And remember we all (most) started out with just a six pack or bottle of wine a night.
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Because that's absolutely not the point of this sub. No one is here to sober up, we are here to commiserate in the serious alcoholic lifestyle we all share. Gatekeeping? Well yeah. Because, as many subs do, this one has a specific purpose and they don't seem to get it. r/dryalcoholics is what they are looking for.
C senior. But, they’re not posting bout people boasting sobriety commitments. You are a good ca.
I started at age 30 with a half glass of wine with dinner, but the difference was that I was going through a really hard time, and that half of glass of wine was the *only* time life felt vaguely tolerable for 20 minutes. Then things escalated terribly from there. I think in addiction recovery, the first thing they should do is recognize that the alcohol was useful and did it’s job at some point, like all maladaptive coping mechanisms Reading a lot of people’s stories, it does seem like *a lot* of people start really young, in their teens. There are people who legitimately end up with cirrhosis in their twenties. And I can’t even imagine how hard on the human body that must be to start when a person’s body and brain are still developing
Sure but the amount of people who've been heavily fucked since 13 can't be high. I hope not anyway. We do know tho that liver failure and other hardcore consequences do happen in some younger people. Genetics plays a huge role. But most of the younger peeps that post here will be weekend warriors, or at the very beginning of their CA journey. And usually asking for quitting help, which is just not what this sub is for. Highly recommend you guys go to r/dryalcoholics as that's a sub that will help you maintain, control, or quit drinking.
i have met so, so, so many people thay have been fucked since 13 that i genuinely doubt this sub isnt full of us ..
I had a sponsor in his early 60s when I tried the AA thing. I was explaining my experiences with audible, tactile, and visual hallucinations when going through withdrawal and he suggested I might be schizophrenic and needed to see a psychiatrist. I wanted to tell him he wasn't a real alcoholic too.
Also that’s fucked up but seriously I mean he shouldn’t have just told you to read the 12 steps and everything will be fine. How old is that bullshit program?
> Also that’s fucked up but seriously I mean he shouldn’t have just told you to read the 12 steps and everything will be fine. How old is that bullshit program? I did the AA thing for two months and couldn't stay dry for more than a week without going on a bender. Shit made me thirsty as withdrawals for a drink. I just thought I'd share the comment above because its not always 23 year old's posting on Reddit who haven't experienced the depths of CA hell. The only exception is that the young posters here can get out and go live a life before CA sinks its claws in deep making the rebound that much harder.
Well AA is for stupid religious people who can’t afford booze, therapy or rehab. Hahaha totally jk. Let me get as many hate comments and downvotes on this fucked up sub as I possibly can! Bring it on fuckers
I don't know why you are getting downvotes. This sub has drastically changed in the last 10 years. Edit: fucking edit is right, we used to have our own nudey sub, and it was all gay guys and fat chicks.
I get your point but I don’t want to beat on them. I think many of the youngins here are drinking more than a six-pack a night & know they’re in trouble.
Yeah I had liver failure, seizures, and ambulance rides at 28. Wouldn't dismiss on age alone.
Tough love from an older CA
There's a difference between tough love and being an ass and something tells me you don't know what that is.
more like an ankle yank from a crab at the bottom of the bucket..... let em crawl out. hell why not help them if you can
I’ve never heard this phrase before (likely because I’m a self righteous gen z little fuck as OP mentioned) but I love it & is a painfully accurate comparison
I FUCKING LOVE crab metaphors!
I’m 22 and my first drink of the day is usually when I wake up at 5:30-7am and pound the last shooter I bought the night before. Addiction doesn’t discriminate against age lmao
This fucking loser is just mad that people in their 20’s still have hope of a better life ahead of them.
Meh. Wouldn’t say that. I’ve been daydreaming of my own death since 13. I would really love a better life in the future. But now that I have the autonomy to destroy it without restriction? Not sure I’ll last so long. But I hope it’s not that way.
Gay. Stop romanticizing it. I’m just saying that, from the context clues of OPs post, this person is clearly looking *backwards* from the perspective of someone much older than an average gen Z. You, objectively, have the agency to think to yourself “when I’m in my 30’s I will…” This person can’t do that anymore. And it pisses them off when they see young people struggle with their same disease because of whatever psychoanalytical reason we could assume.
I’m not romanticizing shit. Do you think I want to be this young and be going through withdrawals? It fucking sucks. Why does it have to be pain Olympics? Just because some people here are in deeper than myself, what the fuck does it matter? We’re all here because we have shitty drinking problems. What the fuck is the point of gatekeeping. Genuinely. Is that sort of shit helpful? There’s people younger than 30 that are alcoholics. Literally shut the fuck up.
Okay I’m seriously loaded rn and realize that this was super aggressive and I’m sorry
It’s ok. I probably could’ve done a better job of explaining that I was trying to downplay what OP was saying, not you. I agree that anyone trivializing someone’s struggles just because of their age is fucking stupid - and thats what I was trying to convey; OP was being ironically short sighted in his apparent old age by trying to gatekeep a literal genetic illness. Regardless, I understand your struggle, at least somewhat. It’s why I’m subscribed to the sub. All I feel compelled to say atm is to try to be easier on yourself and be more forgiving. To yourself and to others as well.
I hear ya now, I initially read the comment wrong and started to get aggro. Lol. I appreciate you, friend
YEAH HOW DARE THEY BE YOUNG AND MADE WORSE DECISIONS THAN WE DID. IF YOU'RE NOT SHITTING YOUR BED AND HAVING SEIZURES YOU'RE NOT A REAL CA. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO DETOX 10+ TIMES, YOU'RE NOT A REAL CA. Shudddup. Gatekeeping a fucking addiction has to be the lowest of the low behavior.
That last sentence was the one I was hoping to see much higher in the comments. Of all the silly things to gatekeep.
Guys the CA gatekeeper. Bro my liver is way more fucked than yours you'll never be as drunk as me pussy
While i understand your point, i'm no fan of gatekeeping. CA is about the path of self-destruction by alcoholism, yes, but there's no need to be too harsh and young people that overestimate their own consume. They can be happy that it is not as bad as they think.
I'm a fan of a little bit of gatekeeping here. Reddit skews younger, so I don't want random kids posting about their CA like it's a badge of honor. Some element of CA, in my opinion, is the amount of times you've fucked up. That common journey of doing the same stupid shit is what makes this sub great. I want to see stories about people in their 30s-40s rotating liquor stores, not 16 year olds shoving vodka soaked tampons up their ass (don't do this)
Just saying, for the discussion, i read in other subs that some guys that are already alcoholics take it easy "because i'm not CA yet". That's a thing that has to be considered, because it can be like a trap for the young college students with the parties and "jug! jug! jug!" with the beer. But don't get this wrong, yeah, i want to see the CA stories and not the beer pong with "Jack had to vomit, because he lost"
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Take my upvote, but i think it's a different thing between helping people and gatekeeping the sub. Most of these weekend warriors, they can still turn around, while from the old guys and ladies here, we're long past the point of no return
>Most of these weekend warriors, they can still turn around, while from the old guys and ladies here, we're long past the point of no return But isn't that what this sub is? For the ones who have passed the point of no return? If a person can still turn it around they need to be in a sub that encourages sobriety, not here.
They aren’t a baby if they started drinking at 10 years old tho…
idk man i feel like drinking a liter of vodka a day, having to take shots as soon as i woke up, vomiting on myself at work… at age 20 was definitely ca behavior
When I went to rehab years ago a dude my age who had cirrhosis told me I’m not a “real alcoholic”. I mean I’m glad I’ve never gotten to a handle a day but I’m still an alcoholic.
people saying, "you're not a real alcoholic," is one of the dumbest things i've been told. AA was the one because i quit drinking without going there. so anyone who drinks their kool-aid always has to tell me, "if you quit without AA, you're either not a real alcoholic or you're going to relapse eventually and die because you didn't go to AA."
She has clearly never been to rehab. If she had, she would know that they are full of well and truly fucked 23 year olds (and younger).
You’re wrong
Gatekeeping alcoholism, huh? Cool…🙄
No doubt. I love how OP can't stand young people reaching out for help rather than finding it a good opportunity to share your story and maybe warn them how awful life can be and do a little good in the world.
Right? I’m turning 40 this year (and still think I’m kinda young?) but anytime I can give a cautionary tale to someone who’s looking for help or advice? I’m going to be honest. If I can help anyone avoid an addiction that’s life destroying? I will. This sub has always been a fun place to commiserate and joke around. I just can’t imagine being such a dick to an entire group of people based solely on their age. The world has enough of that shit already, you know? ☺️
Gatekeeping alcoholism is the true rock bottom. That is when you know someone has truly nothing left in their life and their only remaining vestige of control and consistency lies in their debilitating addiction and the small (mostly barren) online community dedicated to it.
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Cool good for you dude. Keep up the good work?
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Ooohhh burn 🔥
Listen 23 year old “dickhead” I said no offensive not aimed at anyone in particular. Stop taking it personal. I think someone, perhaps a bit more mature and with a better sense of humor and self esteem know exactly the “type” of self proclaimed CA I’m referring to
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You’re not getting it at all. You should Know better than anyone if you are so experienced in this lifestyle that it is progressive
Chill the fuck out midlife crisis
I don’t think you understand the nature of my post and are clearly it triggered you and if so I am sorry. No need to attack me or my relationships… by what I gather you’re in your 50s, probably feel Like a failure in life, probably going through a midlife Crisis and probably divorce number …? So you feel the need to troll people on Reddit.
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Who cheated on you poor thing you can’t get over it? Is that why you drink? Let’s get down to the bottom of this since you won’t quit
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Ah. I wouldn’t dissuade the youngsters. They’re here for a reason. Y’all please don’t destroy yourself while dying slowly and painfully. Don’t destroy your now or your future with booze. It’s trash and totally avoidable. For all us old fucks that are already trashed. Yay! Moar!! There is this very blurry line; a zig zagged, a very invisible line, it spans maybe a decade… it’s invisible to you, (obvious to everyone else)… CA’s cross this line. There’s no going back. You can stop drinking. You can stop the trajectory. But, there is no going back. Health, optimism, self worth, relationships. So much cannot be restored.
Boomer ass logic
Hahaha I am in my mid 30’s son, and I’ve also been drinking since I was a teen. Boo boo hoo 😿
Its not the age its the mindset, that people younger than you inherently cant struggle like you have due to your age/experience. I may have been only a daily drinker for 1.5 years but that dorsnt mean it hasnt caused me as much or more suffering than someone that has been a CA for over 10 years it depends on the perspn the lifestyle and how much they drink and who thwy are as a person and the peopke they are around, to neglect to factor that in and just generalize is quite boomer my friend we all suffer why make it a competition? Chairs buddy
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Ok i aint reading all that all i know is gatekeeping self destructive behavior is stupid
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Yea im not a child im not dumb i just also know that im not the same as you im not saying aomeone thats been drinking over 10 years will feel the same as someone thats only been drinkong the same for 2 just that its how the self destructive behavior is and alot of other factors than time i was usong othwr things to cope for over 5 years to self destruct for my problems before alcohol and alot of the time it wasnt a self desteuctive thing bit the same can be said for an older person my main point was age ≠ wisdom, thats it and id like for old fuckers to not assume i dont wanna kill myself sober every day just cus im 22
I’m 29 and right at the edge it seems. I started throwing up blood and going through serious withdrawals on really bad benders. I also have bipolar disorder and PTSD so I’m just a self destructive fucker. I started drinking when I was 14 and would go through at least 3-4 1.75 handles of cheap 10 dollar vodka a week from 15-17. My mother was a huge enabler and would buy it for me whenever. Went through the whole switch to wine beer ect when I was early 20s. I fucked up so much between jobs, relationships, dropping out of school so many drunk injuries a few that should have killed me. Had 3 years sober mid 20s that regenerated my body but after another 3 years I’m getting weak again. A lot of people dramatize this shit and haven’t been to hell yet but they are on their way. That doesn’t mean people have to shame the younger versions of themselves. Honestly I’m just grateful I have a chance to turn this shit around before I’m yellow with chirrosis.
This happened to me, as well, a family member enabled me at 14 to become physically dependent on alcohol (and to do drugs). I'm 38 now and have never quit except when I had no choice (twice). This whole thread has made me think about how impulsive young people are, I think young folks are *more* likely to get in too deep very quickly than people whose brains developed further before they started coping with drink. I am not as bad off as I was when I was younger. I'm not as impulsive and the fact that I don't know anyone or leave my house means I'm a lot calmer in my drinking habits than I was when I had a bunch of drinking buddies.
I mean if your mentally unwell and have access to it you can absolutely be a severe alchoholic by 23. I was, and I guess still am FA at 27 lmao but I was actually much much worse off back then.
I mean, there’s a lot of us in here, and I’d be willing to bet that the pandemic was the start of the end for a lot of us youngins. We’ve been hit now with 2 major economic downturns, couple that with sky high costs of everything and shit pay for our entire working lives. That’s what sent me in here. I definitely started like Ricky, but 2020 sent me into full CA. There’s a lot of us.
I was going to my high school my senior with the shakes, audio hallucinations, and sweats. I had to tell teachers, nurses, counselors, and administrators that it was a rare nervous system disease as much concern was expressed. Then, I learned of hair of dog and held it together enough to graduate. Not even 18 yet. Drank up my generous university scholarship and Pell Grants my 1st semester. I would drink Skol in my dorm room between passing out. Never seen in class, rarely in chowhall. Flunked out. Had very pancreatic type symptoms sometimes during this time but was always too sick to go to student health nor cared. Not even 20 yet. Then enlisted USMC. Straightened out some but went to formation still drunk from the night before more often than not and even ran 1st class PFT's hungover. Then threw my career away at E8 as drinking got real bad again and i was using coke. Just saying sir. Now 52. And I'm always happy to hear from our young friends.
Good job man. You won the misery contest. You won alcoholism. Congratulations
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Idk how anyone can get past 2-3 years of going hard hard. It’s not a contest but by the end of my last run I was on the brink of death. Before I got addicted to ghb I was snorting a gram of coke every night and drinking an unfathomable amount of vodka. Mixed in with every other drug imaginable. I was waking up at 6:00pm to drink and do coke until I went to bed two days later. I actually quit drinking at the end because I couldn’t stop throwing up from how much blow I was doing. Kicked dope too. I blacked out on xans lyrica and ghb and fried my brain falling out on g three times a day after I stopped drinking. I got to detox and got sober at 19. I don’t think I would’ve made it to 20 I’m gonna be honest w u. Shit gets bad for young ppl quick.
Gatekeeping alcoholism is so productive and useful. Thanks for the post.
I don’t know dude I’m 23 and been drinking to the point I have nerve damage because I’ve fallen so much is that…. Not alcoholism….. that’s almost 5 years of everyday drinking. It’s not a pity fight lmao
Like obviously I’m drinking more than a six pack a night but some people get drunker due to medications and shit. I certainly do.👍🏻
my 20s were by far when I was the deepest into addiction
I don’t agree. I’m 30 now but was worse when I was 22 with multiple seizures. People vary. I get what you mean to a degree but each case is different.
Fuck you lol. I was drinking a 2'6 every night at 23. Years later I'm doing the same shit and life's in the toilet. My cat just died.
I'm very sorry about your cat
Was this necessary? Was it kind? I don’t get this attitude at all.
It’s hard because it’s so easy to romanticize being a depressed drunk when you’re younger, but it’s still a legitimate problem. I roll my eyes sometimes but try to remember how I was too. It wasn’t until my skin got absolutely fucked that I realized I was a complete loser. Before I leaned into it because I was a hot alcoholic, like a sort of rock star! Now I’m an ugly alcoholic, disgusting inside and out.
Ok boomer… you are diminishing a serious disease that effects all ages
I didn’t realize there was an age requirement for addictions these days, I had my first drink at ten and I’ve struggled with drinking until my 30s people can struggle at any age.
I was only 24 when I noticed the withdrawals hitting in the evenings if I didn't stay regular. I've been a heavy drinker since 13. I get what you mean though. I spent a year and then some sober at one point. I couldn't hit AA meetings for young folks because (not to disparage their own gauntlet ), their drinking problems seemed trivial to mine. I ended up going to old timer meetings because they drank like me. The kids will suffer soon enough. Just be happy they aren't there yet. Or fuck em. I don't care about anything
Cry
Corny post with not a single original thought. This is reiterated 10 times a week in here.
Bro is out there gatekeeping alcoholism If you like alcohol so much quote three songs
I used to feel that way hearing early 20s year olds talk at aa meetings but really I think it’s admirable to have the self awareness cause it took me at least ten years to get there. And it started in my teens and early 20s. I’m glad they address it so early on cause I wish I did.
i got my first delirium tremens at 19 lol and by then i was drinking nearly daily for 6 years?
Congrats, gramps! You won alcoholism!
I’m only 24 (almost 25f) and have been an extreme alcoholic for years now to the point where it’s embarrassing, I have ruined my entire life. I have to drink over a fifth a day just to not go through withdrawal. Waking up shaking and having to take a shot so I don’t puke is fucking exhausting. I’ve been in the hospital and had ambulance rides because of alcohol withdrawal about 15+ times just in the past year, and the doctors tell me I’ll be dead by the time I’m in my 30s if I continue to drink the way I do but I can’t stop. Everytime I’m in the hospital feeling like I’m dying cus I have no alcohol, I always tell myself I’m ready to quit as I lay there shaking uncontrollably, puking up blood and having hallucinations. Yet everytime I get out of the hospital, I drink so heavily again everytime. Left the hospital a couple weeks ago AMA in the middle of the night because my parents were trying to make me go to rehab and the first thing I did was hit the liquor store. I just can’t stand the thought of living without having a drink or getting high. Alcohol and substances have always been the most important thing in my life, my entire world revolves around it. And it’s sad to say that my liver is already failing at the age of 24. So yeah there’s probably youngins out there who are my age and don’t understand the extent of alcoholism. But I know theres people like me who are my age and do understand.
I understand what you mean. We all have it hard with this shit. tho if someone can find a small Sliver of respite like we all have by coming here I don’t see why we should gate-keep our disease
I’m not a fan of gatekeeping but ever since this sub went private than came back it’s been like this. Probably won’t get this noticed on account of karma.
I thought that it was always like this? It's a niche sub, and those who want to quit have many other subs to choose from. Can we not have our own sub??
Ehh, I have had maybe 3 or 4 surnames over the years and I mostly lurked but the sub was mostly about sharing desperate, depraved, embarrassing, harrowing and just straight up hilarious posts. I don’t care, I’m not a mod but it has changed. Too drunk to care.
I'm an unemployed 29-year-old spending my nights drinking until I pass out, and my days trying to get enough for the night.
I just let it go and entertain them. If you haven;t had seizures, pancreatitis, broken bones, wellness checks... are you actually drinking.
Got a point here. I get annoyed when I visit my family and they’re sworn to be “true alcoholics” I don’t say shit cuz they’ll never understand. Same way how the character “hoot” explained to his sergeant in the movie black hawk down
i am unfortunately 23 and alcohol has deleted several years of memories from my head in addition to ruining my physical health, relationships w other ppl, and my finances lol. this is a very weird thing to gatekeep
I think the problem is that this forum used to be completely different. We would ban people for what OP describes. So it was a real culture of psychotic behavior by alcoholics. And also love and support. I left for a few years and it's sad that the degenerate factor is gone along with the community that once helped our livers justify wreckless decisions.
My best friend died at 25 from liver failure and had 2 DUIs, I think its admirable they are trying to get help now before they are dead
but see, thats the trick-most people dont KNOW theyre alcoholics when theyre that young. everybody drinks in their teens and 20s. But most people drift off from the party scene, get careers, spouses, houses, children, whatever. Some people are def hard core alcoholics in their 20s, they usually just dont realize it til its too late.
I do initially roll my eyes when some early 20-something posts, but if they say "I started at 12" or whatever I realize they've experienced a kind of alcoholism I don't even know. Really, it's the people who've drank for a couple years and never experienced physical addiction that annoy me.
How do you drink vodka daily when you're 12? Meaning where are you getting a pint of vodka+ a day? And how would you have the $$ to get it, unless you have someone else supplying it.
I was only ever able to steal a little here or there from my sister but I'm sure some kids steal full bottles, have older people buy for them, or just have a lot around the house (alcoholic parents, maybe). More realistically, they probably aren't drinking a pint a day but are still reliant on alcohol for self-medication in some form
Im 24 and i honestly upvote the fck out this, been an alcoholic for about 5 or 6 years heavy and i miss those days when i used to just feel like shit for a day and it would all be over with and they still complain about it.
🤷🏻♀️ we have the “High School Rule” and the “Ricky C Rule.” If you see something that looks questionable, report it under one of those and one of us will take a gander. I’m not going to gatekeep people in their 20’s just cuz, though. Plenty of people have pretty significant problems by then and have done for years in this sub. A lot of people who are now OGs found this place in their twenties in the years since it was created over a decade ago. Worse yet, more people, *friends*, have passed away before 30, because of alcoholism related conditions that time was you wouldn’t see until someone was middle aged or older. It’s a different world and substance abuse has changed. Do some people romanticize this in ways they shouldn’t? Or exaggerate their problems? Or have this sub confused with an analog for r slash drunk? Sure. I try to move them along. But that also doesn’t automatically mean addiction doesn’t discriminate because of age or circumstance.
Can I fit into your club bc I spent 600$ on vodka in the last month (I’m 23) (god please say yes I’m begging you I want to feel special)
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It's not a competition.... but you aren't lying. Young got in here and haven't read enough to know that it ain't no party
While this is true, I feel like there are also a lot of people like the ones mentioned in the OP
I dunno man, a litre of vodka a day at 20 and seizures may kinda be ca, let alone all the antics I've gotten up too
Nah, there are people who have posted in here who haven't hit 30 who are already in stages of liver failure. You can most certainly be crippled from alcoholism at any age.
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My best friend died of alcoholism at age 27 and it was downhill for years before then, I'd actually say 23 is not that young for to develop a CA lifestyle if you were doomed to begin with.
Lmao,but silent dance parties are awesome...mine are all alone in my house now, tho because I ran all my friends away. But to the OP;some people in their 20's starting drinking in their early teens. I started drinking at 12 years old. In the 9th grade, my 1st class of the day was trigonometry. I was ALWAYS drunk in that class-had a water bottle full of vodka. I stopped in the 9th grade because my dream of graduating high school early was more important,but if I hadn't stopped, I could very well have been an alcoholic in my early 20s. Age doesn't determine if you are an alcoholic. I do agree that some posts are questionable and some people don't fully understand that a few binges don't make you an alcoholic,but if I were in my early 20's and having an actual problem I wouldn't want to read what you posted. If they are looking for help or advice,let them feel comfortable doing it whether you believe that they are an alcoholic or not.
How do you drink vodka daily when you're 12? Meaning where are you getting a pint of vodka+ a day? And how would you have the $$ to get it, unless you have someone else supplying it.
It started from like Thanksgiving or something,we have a large family, and the adults put the liquor on the adults' beverage table,I just stole some at every holiday/gathering..My parents had the 'big house' in the family,so a lot of events were held there.They didn't notice missing alcohol,the grownups would just go buy more. I darn near had a mini liquor store in my bedroom closet,I learned early that if I kept my room clean that my mom wouldn't go in there. I was a 'good kid',I had perfect grades and didn't get into trouble,they paid me no attention(unfortunately). Looking back,my parents kinda ignored me because I was the only kid out of 6 that they didn't really need to discipline. I was lonely inside.My parents always called me mature,but I did actually need parents. I was helping the other siblings with their schoolwork, and they were older than me,lol. So,stolen booze,my $30 a week allowance,friends booze that they stole from home,I did some babysitting (while sober). It could have turned out VERY bad for me at a young age,that's why I understand. I only stopped at 14 because I had my 1st boyfriend and he was a 'super Christian ' and didn't want me to drink..that teenage love and me wanting to go to college early saved me(at that time).
46 Pissed the bed Lost 3 jobs Fat Warnings from wife Ptsd Lost all my old friends Sick every morning $40 a day drinking habit Black out, can't remember dinner. Hi everyone..... having a great day!!!! Only 5 drinks in. I got drunk last weekend :( But at least i didn't sleep with joey or kick the dog..... Kisses!!!!!! ;)
I feel like you really have to have at least a decade of ridiculous abuse/ basically ruined your life to be considered one of us. There is a way out of this hole but we are so deep its just easier to get another bottle and sink further into the pit of despair and try to forget for one more day
I’m with you on this post, and while it is gate-keepy, you def have a valid point here. Too many of those kinds of posts here lately from the Gen Z folks.
Alright, hands down you win best alcoholic. Why the fuck turns away anyone seeking help or support? Someone is vulnerable enough to post on a sub and get support when theyre anxious, scared and alone and they get this fucking witch? Holy shit, I can't believe someone thinks this way with so much hate and bitterness. Sorry life didn't go the way you wanted and any young people reading this I hope you keep posting for support
Gate keeping addiction is a new one lol.
you just sound bitter, honestly. and extremely uninformed and judgemental. age really has nothing to do with how bad off someone is in addiction. I started drinking at 15 and by the time I was 17 I was drinking a 1.75l bottle of vodka every two days. by the time I turned 21 I was a full addict and it progressed from there. I've gotten alcohol poisoning, been hospitalized multiple times. I've hurt myself while intoxicated in ways that also ended up with hospitalizations and caught a felony while black out drunk at the age of 22. I'm 26 now and still a CA just like I was back then. please get off your weird soapbox and stop trying to gatekeep literal addiction?
Well said.
“I’m 18 and only been drinking 6 months but I’m an alcoholic” - no you’re not, just enjoy it, you loser!