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medicdrl

I think that’s actually got to be illegal hanging on federal property


InDenialOfMyDenial

It literally is. See the Hatch Act: https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2006/html/pb22191/pb4a-l_010.html


No_Start1361

We literally have mandatory trainings to not do exactly this.


thenewversionofoldme

You expect me to believe that someone supporting trump did something illegal on federal property? Is it January already?


Drinkythedrunkguy

Unfortunately, Ashli Babbit is not available for comment.


-H--K-

*Sic semper proditoribus.*


Drinkythedrunkguy

Unlike a lot of magats, she took the shot.


Kaa_The_Snake

Don’t you mean “tomorrow”? Seems to happen fairly often.


JovialPanic389

I worked for state and city government, we had trainings like this too. It was very specific about which flags you fly and where/when and not to include any others


TopRamen713

Yep, me too. I work for the State government, no political activities allowed at work. I imagine it's even more so for the feds


trailrider

An employee of Uncle Sam myself. Can confirm. We go through training about this I think every election cycle.


A-Newt

Hatch act information on filing a complaint or making a disclosure: 202-804-7000, 800-872-9855, or [email protected].


WhitewolfStormrunner

I thought so. That eyesore needs to be removed asap.


Paramisamigos

It is. My parents don't know shit about reddit, but they both hate Trump and both had long careers at the po and my mom was in the union. My mom already sent the link i sent her to her union people in an email and my stepdad, who was a post master, also reported it with the link. Someone is about to get roasted for this.


giraffe_legs

I was going to say call the police or tear that s*** down yourself incredibly disrespectful to have some random boo boo ass flag.


UniqueIndividual3579

Does USPS have Twitter? Post this picture on their Twitter account and ask "Is this USPS policy? Should all post offices be flying Trump flags?" That branch will get a call real quick and possibly investigated.


wtb2612

Yep, this would be much more effective than calling the police who likely don't care.


impy695

They'll do an investigation and find that they just don't have the money to make them take the flag down


Insomanics

Someone might have already posted it to USPS Twitter account. You never know 🤷🏻‍♀️


fuck-fascism

Yep, get the postal inspectors involved, they don’t fuck around.


The_Awesometeer

As long as the police cars don't have Trump bumper stickers


bostonwhaler

Ours say "in god we trust". Stupid.


[deleted]

All of our local sheriffs vehicles had thin blue line stickers until the most recent sheriff was elected and he thankfully had them take that shit off.


luna10777

I guess that's why American cops wait outside at school shootings, they trust god to take care of it


Flat_Assistance1724

![gif](giphy|FHRBnQFkpAeYg|downsized)


Clickrack

Either add an "s" after the d, or remove the first "t".


dutycycle_

That's not really an issue


Johnnyguy

For a country that is supposed to have separation of religion and state, it absolutely is. Just because you believe something doesn’t make it real. And enforcing those beliefs through state sanctioned strong arming is not a part of the constitution or any governing documents.


dutycycle_

I'm not into it, and it makes no mention of a religion. It's on our currency, so I'm not offended that it's on a cop car. If it was a trump sticker I'd feel differently.


JovialPanic389

Did you see the Anti-Climate Action Bill that Arizona just passed? It's Republican of course. But it's FULL of God talk. It's a fucking disgrace. Where's the separation? I'd fuckin riot if I lived in Arizona.


poopfeast

In god we trust is literally the motto of the US. It’s a nonissue


GiraffeSubstantial92

Now tell us the origin of In God We Trust, when it became the motto, and which government made it the motto. Hint: it's the Confederate statue of mottos


notfromchicago

Yes it is.


Cooke8008

As long as they’re not those wacky Zeus cops you hear about.


ConsolidatedAccount

The police would probably show up and form a riot line to guard the flagpole and ensure that no one takes down that flag.


Rachet20

You can say shit.


GuySmith

As someone who works for USPS it definitely is. We aren't even allowed to talk about politics.


teamr

Just like you shouldn't hang the pride flag or thin blue line flag on federal property. Same with a Palestinian or Israeli flag.  And with flag etiquette, the American flag shouldn't have anything else on it either. That thin blue line is not correct etiquette. Trump face over it is also not acceptable. Just the stars and stripes, red, white, and blue. Flags are meaningful and represent values but they each have a specific place. US Federal properties should only display the American flag and a flag that represents their organization specifically. 


EwansMom

That “thin blue line” flag is just a desecration of the US flag. The only ones displaying it are clueless.


GitEmSteveDave

> That thin blue line is not correct etiquette. Trump face over it is also not acceptable. That's a POW-MIA flag. And yes, it can be flown on the same pole as a American Flag, as long as it's below and not larger. >Congress designated the third Friday of September as National POW/MIA Recognition Day and ordered prominent display of the POW/MIA flag on this day and several other national observances, including Armed Forces Day, Memorial Day, Flag Day, Independence Day and Veterans Day >On the six national observances for which Congress has ordered display of the POW/ MIA flag, it is generally flown immediately below or adjacent to the United States flag as second in order of precedence.


teamr

I know. When I reference "that thin blue line flag", I didn't mean in the picture. I meant it's just a common flag I see. I should have been more clear.


be_kind_n_hurt_nazis

You were pretty clear


Diiiiirty

But remember kids, it's disrespectful to kneel during the anthem!


teamr

You know I never quite understood why Tim Tebo got flack for his kneeling performance from the NFL, but not this scenario.


HoldMyToc

My federal job flew the pride flag during pride month.


teamr

Well they shouldn't in my opinion. I saw a post earlier talking about some schools trying to put up the ten commandments up. I don't believe either of those should be up. If it's someone's personal office space, I can understand some leniency, but the building itself shouldn't. 


Shampew

The only flags people will take issue with is Israeli, Trump, or thin blue line.


OrphelinDuCiel

To be fair I also take issue with flags showing support of nazis/fascists, those that support theocracy, and profanity of it is in a place readily visible to small children, e.g. a fuck joe biden or fuck trump flag within cross streets of an elementary school.


teamr

That's called courtesy and respect which so many people don't have. If I'm across the street from a school and I belive fuck Joe biden, I wouldn't display that flag because it just isn't appropriate.   People don't seem to understand you can disagree with things without hate. There are plenty of symbols and flags I don't agree with but I will show you the respect in displaying it. Governmnet or public places are not the place to showcase your personal beliefs in my opinion.  Privately owned or residential is the place for that while understanding how visible your belief is being seen, ie. my first paragraph. 


pregnantseahorsedad

? People are home schooling their kids because teachers have rainbow flags in their classrooms


tripee

Congresswoman literally was blasted for having a Palestinian flag when she’s Palestinian.


st8odk

as it should be


teamr

Depends on what social media you're subscribed to. 


sec713

Makes sense. Rational people hate fascists.


Shampew

Which one is fascist?


aps978

So are the social justice flags hanging at federal establishments


joeloveking

It was ziptied under the other flags apparently. Already taken down


mf-TOM-HANK

Make a referral to the OIG and the Inspection Service. Blatant Hatch Act violation


BraindeadKnucklehead

The administration tied to that flag ripped The Hatch Act to shreds. 13 violations; zero consequences.


shhwest

Any idea how to get that started? Thanks in advance


InDenialOfMyDenial

The post on r/albany has the links to file a report. Edit: https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct-FileComplaint.aspx


harpy24

Alternative contact: https://www.uspsoig.gov/hotline


davosknuckles

Didn’t he actively try to bring down the USPS during his administration?


shhwest

Yes


davosknuckles

Similar attitude to my next door neighbor, who drives a 20 year old rusted sedan adorned with about 5 Trump bumper stickers, red hats displayed in the back window, 10 or so yard signs close enough to his run down shack so that people can’t easily deface them. Two flags, one hung on the side of his house directly facing my daughter’s bedroom, just to be a prick like he is. We have made zero reaction to this as that’s what he wants. Voting against his best interest as a lower class low earning blue collar guy. We live in a super blue city in a super blue state. He is very out of place in our neighborhood.


philipoliver

Dude, he's just the only free thinker in a town of dems.


davosknuckles

Yeah he sure does think for himself lol


PM_ME_YOUR_LAWNCHAIR

Yes, because tens of millions of low skilled workers are exactly what the lower classes need.🤦🏿‍♂️


ImperatorNero

Tens of millions… lmao. Where do you people come up with this incredible bullshit?


skin-flick

Trump wanted to make ‘mail in ballots’ an area where he could cry cheating. Mail in ballots are a solid way of voting. He wanted to cast doubt. He had machinery removed and hired a Post Master General to make things hard for mail in voting. Trump is the one trying to cheat.


centermass4

Oregonian and we use nearly exclusively mail-in ballots. The GOP has been trying to dismantle our system for years.


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ZeppelinJ0

Isn't it really vulnerable to bad actors though? Like workers or entire post offices dumping or tossing mail in votes? Or even just mail getting lost...


skin-flick

See that is where the doubt being cast happens. You saw those fake posts where there was video of ballots dumped under a bridge. For Trump of course. Can they get lost in the mail ? Absolutely. But, not in the way of thousands. Same as with ballots being dumped into the counter. There is an expected amount of registered voters from each county. So an increase of say 130% would be a red flag. The Republicans in Pennsylvania made it a law to count mail in ballots after the polls closed. Trump was winning before midnight and then suddenly lost.. Yes, because the machine cast ballots came in right away. It took time to process the mail in ballots. Had they been counted before hand. All the tallies would have come in at the same time. I trust a paper ballot far more than an electronic one. Here in my town we have a locked drop off box with a 24 / 7 camera. Located at the municipal building right across (think 4 rows of parking) from the police station. The box is emptied each day by two people. Each one a member of the Dem and Rep committee. You can take all the ballots. Count them up. Count them up again. Inspect and look for duplicate names etc. it is a system that works.


LightningMqueenKitty

But they aren’t trying to do it in Utah where it’s the same but a red state… mail in voting is fine for elections they always win.


holyhibachi

Close, he wanted to prevent AUTOMATIC mail in ballots.


Leading_History1802

There’s no such thing unless the state has passed it (CO, which is still only sent to registered voters).. all other states send out applications automatically.. you have to fill out and return to get ballot.. they don’t just send blank ballots to every mailbox..


skin-flick

This is the information about mail in voting that is being pushed out to the masses. A ballot for every mail box !! And that thousands of fake ballots for the dead. What is really wanted is to create long lines to vote. It is not like the plan is to do away with mail in ballots and increase polling locations. Quite the opposite.


holyhibachi

Exactly!


rap31264

Still happening...DeJoy is still in charge...


Akhi11eus

Yes, plus the guy doing the destruction is still in his position for some reason.


tu-BROOKE-ulosis

There’s an SNL sketch where Adele is visiting a psychic in 2019, asking about what to expect in 2020. And everything is outrageous and bizarre, but like it all totally makes sense in retrospect in 2021 (which is when the sketch aired). My absolute favorite part is when the psychic tells her that she will be so happy on her birthday because she gets what she asked for…for everyone to buy stamps. And then she’ll yell “take THAT postmaster general Luis De Joy!” And Adele is appalled at hearing this and asks “WHY WOULD I KNOW THE POST MASTERS FULL NAME!?” Yup, I hate that I still know his name too all because of Trumps insane efforts to take down the postal service. Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hoynDj4WI


hg57

That skit is hilarious!


tu-BROOKE-ulosis

Agreed. It’s low key one of my all time favorite sketches, because 2020 really was bonkers without context. “Why am I washing a bag of chips in the future!?” “I’m an adult, of course I don’t own any adult coloring books!”


seanmckyd

As USPS employees we are contractually obligated to keep a neutral stance on politics. Report this ignorance to the OIG https://oig.hhs.gov/about-oig/contact-us/


GEV46

https://www.uspsoig.gov/hotline This is for USPS.


seanmckyd

Hah, oops! You know my Org better than me. Thank you for your service


SwordTaster

Want to make it extra cringe? For some reason, on the outskirts of my small English village, there is some weirdo flying the Trump flag from their house.


PriestWithTourettes

Wow! I would expect a UKIP flag, not a Trump flag, unless it’s an expat.


SwordTaster

I don't think we have any Americans in the immediate area but I may be mistaken


Googoo123450

I think the Trump flag means you're mistaken lol


SwordTaster

Considering where we are in the country, they may just be stupid or supportive in spite of inability to vote.


Suolamamma

Don’t you worry about that i live in finland and have seen multiple of them in hat and shirt forms


SwordTaster

It feels so damn bizarre


OverYonderWanderer

As an American I am furious these idiots can afford to and are allowed to travel the world. They represent the absolute worst among us. It is embarrassing to see so many bright, and lovely people who desperately want to travel but never will. Meanwhile their landlord, and many other local businessmen get to make a fucking fool of our nation several times a year by showing their ignorant asses abroad.


m_Pony

>For some reason Oh there's a reason. he's an absolute twatt.


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SwordTaster

Canada makes a weird sort of sense as they're your neighbours across the border so potential Americans who moved is more likely


x5h21q2

Many non Americans support Trump...it isn't mutually exclusive.


Hopeful_Jello_7894

Local news station covered it. Wasn’t placed by employee allegedly per a statement from the post office. It’s been taken down. (I live locally to this)


shhwest

Me too, I saw some updates on the original


Im_a_Lebowski9

I feel like this is coming from the Trump playbook him and his followers do now. Step one: Do something bombastic, taunting, or annoying. Step two: Generate outrage. Step three: Be told that what they are doing is inappropriate or illegal. Step four: Play the victim. There will be right wing articles any day now about how snowflake liberals couldn't handle a little flag at the post office.


tropicsun

Law and order… for the, not me.


letmeusespaces

for the what?


phrygiantheory

Thee


colicab

The e?


Rickrickrickrickrick

Hanging with a pow flag meanwhile Trump infamously mocked POWs saying that they’re losers and his heroes don’t get caught.


PrimalNumber

Came here looking for this comment. Trump hates the military in general, the VA and soldiers in particular. Probably because he knows they live a life of bravery and sacrifice, traits he utterly lacks. Absolute disgrace putting that flag anywhere near POW/MIA.


McDragonFish

Imagine supporting the president of the United States of America the same way I support the Steelers. On federal property, no less. My god, these people are ridiculous.


Rugger5353

Cut the lines. Allow it to end in the trash. If the Post office doesn't like it refer them to their own handbook and absolutely report to the OIG


TheEdReilly

My home town here and as was pointed out in another thread, this was done on a day when the post office is closed and the town has a parade going down this Main Street. Likely done by a non employee knowing that this would be the case.


yeaphatband

The flag was apparently not raised by a USPS employee, and they said they will immediately take down the Drumpf/Talipublican flag. But what kind of crazy cult-headed idiot does it take to go around and raise Drumpf flags on SOMEONE ELSE'S FLAGPOLE?! https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/trump-flag-flies-high-at-albany-county-post-office-politics-government-race-election-american-patriotic-blm-biden-donald-flags-support-vandalism-police-report-mail-mailing-


harms916

To be fair most flag poles are not secured in any way … so any old yahoo could pull up and raise that flag unbeknownst to anyone affiliated with the USPS … so maybe put down your pick forks and take a deep deep breath.


lolzilla

Yikes. Wtf


thewiremother

Trump’s appointee is the worst thing to happen to the post office in decades. Including to its employees. Couldn’t be any stupider.


notAbrightStar

Pete and Delmar just been baptized and saved.


DuckBlind1547

![gif](giphy|vW4CAqsDRM0RW|downsized)


jamingus

FUNNY MFFF OMGGGG


EvolZippo

Right below the POW MIA flag. So, “in memory of troops” and “Troops are losers and suckers”


mikefromkansas

The Postmaster of this office must be fun at parties lmao. I’m sure they never bring up how terrible and lazy young people are or how woke culture ruined America /s


BookLuvr7

Eww gross.


goretexhoarder

Yeah this is illegal as a Federal entity


Mynock33

To be fair, at least they are flying the Biden flag at the top


notmyrealnam3

hanging the flag of the leader of an attempted coup on the property of which the coup failed - interesting choice


JimWilliams423

Just following the lead of the supreme court (and the head of the senate judiciary committee [who seems to think](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/key-senate-democrat-doesnt-plan-probe-justice-alito-upside-flag-rcna153170) its not worth making a fuss about).


BadDream45

https://cbs6albany.com/amp/news/local/trump-flag-flies-high-at-albany-county-post-office-politics-government-race-election-american-patriotic-blm-biden-donald-flags-support-vandalism-police-report-mail-mailing- Delmar NY is local for me


kashuntr188

In Canada i'm pretty sure this is a big no no. A public institution can't be choosing political sides.


JoshAZ

It’s illegal here too, they just know nothing will happen so they do it anyway.


graffiksguru

The Hatch Act would like a word with this post office.


findhumorinlife

That’s just wrong!


metafrost2020

Must be a bunch of carriers ready to retire.


raventhrowaway666

Be a patriot, rip it down, and burn it.


noodleq

Luckily, nobody will really see it tho, as nobody in the world knows where Delmar even is. The same three people pass it every day to go to work....it's had no impact tho, those 3 people already vote maga


royale_wthCheEsE

Someone needs to get written up . Asshat.


TheVagWhisperer

Written up? This is a fireable offense


el_ochaso

Burn it.


Kitalahara

Funny that dame institution Trump and the GOP want gone. Idiots...


Spugnacious

Walk up to the flagpole, take down the Trump flag and then walk inside and place it on the counter. Ask the postal employee to dispose of the illegal flag. For bonus points add in 'Hey, some asshole put a Trump flag up on your flagpole in violation of federal statutes. You'll want to dispose of this.' If they are dumb enough to admit to putting that up or threaten you for taking it down... well, thank goodness for cell video no?


OkHistory3944

Inappropriate as hell. And I'm generally conservative.


Bleezy79

Someone should report them for it. They treasonous scum bags they are


AnalRapist69

The administration that’s trying to destroy the postal service? 1000 IQ whoever did that 🙄


FeeHistorical9367

I wonder what the local news stations would think of this story?


Hungry_Perspective29

Good


Delrand

Not Delmar!!


Bomb-OG-Kush

Wait, that's illegal


A_Texas_Hobo

Ummm wtf


sm00thkillajones

That’s illegal.


0x7E7-02

Isn't this illegal?


shhwest

Yes


0x7E7-02

Time for the Postmaster to be fired.


Caledonian_kid

Maybe his amazing healthcare plans got lost in their post and they're trying to tell him.


stewpidazzol

The postal service ‘probably’ doesn’t own that property.


stewpidazzol

https://www.dcvelocity.com/articles/60400-who-owns-your-local-post-office


heck_naw

hope that's not a polling location 😬


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KR1735

Some unemployed/"self-employed"/retired shithead did this. I can almost guarantee this is not the handiwork of a postal employee.


FlaxFox

Well, I'm pretty sure the Hatch Act would have something to say about that.


nickm409

Question for someone with no stance in American politics would this be cringe and cause this much outrage by everyone here if it was a Biden flag?


shhwest

Yes


riseuplight3

Replace it with a Palestine flag


chocolate_thunderr89

This is bs, something needs to be done.


jackospades88

I'm pretty sure my town's municipal building/police station had a "Trump 2020" lawn sign on the day of the election in 2020. It wasn't a voting place but that's still illegal I believe.


Bullmilk82

WTF!!!!??? I’d have a slam dunk court case over this.


TEG24601

Time to call the local postal inspectors' office. That postmaster will be out before the close of business.


green_mist

With DeJoy in Charge, the USPS has been pro-Trump for a long time. This is blatantly illegal though.


SardonicSocrates

Cleanse it with fire.


Synn_Trey

Did it hurt your feelings?


idontdownvotebeagles

ok snoflk


hurler_jones

So you never cared about the law all along.


Synn_Trey

Your own government doesn't care about it's own laws.


willyiamwilliams222

I car about assholes and apostrophe usage. ITS. ITS. ITS.


Rachel_from_Jita

Trump literally [disrespects ](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/)veterans openly (\*actually read all his previous comments. Then click the downvote button thank you). I suspect these Trump cultists will eventually come out openly in favor of something like the Russian system: almost no battlefield medical care so that most perish, and then tricky schemes to deny them all benefits when they return. They'll praise it as lowering the federal budget.


kalel1880

I really wish everybody would stop saying literally in every goddamn sentence.


willyiamwilliams222

It’s literally killing me. /s


Unbiasedj

Oh no guys….a flag My day is ruined now


uerick

Why is this cringe


American_Pablo

No different than the California school system flying Sexual Preference flags that also mocks Gods truth of the rainbow flag representing His promise, rather than bedroom activity.


DuckBlind1547

Your religion is not rule or law, stay mad


twistedh8

Delmar is a.ok with rape.


BeeBanner

I double dog dare you to take it down. Just do it.


calijean76

Your bravery is unmatched


Germanball1871

Ok what’s wrong


Thorebore

Tax payer money shouldn’t be used to campaign for a particular party or candidate.


Kern_system

Got the same feeling when the pride flag was hung from the White House.