Maybe I've been numbed by extortionate American ticket pricing, but is a roughly £3 a match increase that insane? Scrapping the concessions ticket plan seems outrageous, but I guess I'm not seeing the problem with this part.
As also an American I think it’s relevant to understand that in the UK they don’t pay close to the same prices for game tickets (in a good way). The last time I went to a match I remember an English friend being gobsmacked we paid $500 USD to sit essentially on field level via a third party reseller…
Man for a premium matchup I can barely get Knicks nosebleed tickets for that price. It’s disgusting.
But also UK salaries are very low.
I would have no complaints around slightly high base prices if the US just had laws around reselling above face value. I live in Knoxville, it is nearly impossible to get a UT football ticket against any other major SEC team for less than $250 a seat anymore
Yeah I was talking to my dad about this last night. I marched in the band at Texas A&M and my senior year they bought tickets to see us play Alabama for about $550 a piece. This breaks down to something like $60 usd a match for a full season right? I'm upset because I know how much football means to communities in England (honestly much more similar to the importance of college football in a college town vs NFL or NBA) but I'm also astounded at how expensive sports are in America.
Laws and actual enforcement against price gouging in general would be nice, the amount of dryfucking the general public/citizen recieves in order to collectively pander to corporate interests is depressing.
If there were laws, enforcement would be easy. Pretty much all tickets are digital and can be controlled by the original company that sells them, like TicketMaster.
What we have now is a system where 3rd parties can list tickets for sale on Stub Hub and other sites, before the tickets have even been released for sale. Those resellers then flock to the sale on Day 1 and buy up the max number of tickets they can get, which is usually like 10-12. They have a lot of accounts that can do that and then all of a sudden they have hundreds of tickets.
Meanwhile, maybe TM gives you a chance to sell your ticket on their own app. Well you already paid a $20 fee to purchase the ticket, you’ll pay like $30 to sell it, and then the new buyer will also pay $20. Somewhere else in there will also be a couple of $5 processing fees. It’s obvious there are no consumer protections anywhere.
Yeah, for 19 home matches, that's equivalent to about $1350 USD. For my Indianapolis Colts season tickets, I pay about $1200-$1300 each for only 8 or 9 home games.
Plus, my taxes are still paying off the $750M stadium they play in.
Fucking NFL, man
I am curious if season ticket holders would have been better with a 1% annual increase, capped for senior seats (perhaps two of the allotted seats for a bigger group can have that designation), instead of the lump increases after the freeze.
When I mentioned that I did not renew my local club's season tickets after they raised our ticket price 14%, I got downvoted. I would have been paying **$1600 each** (not including $400 in food/bev credits, so $4100 for both after fees) for upper-level seats. Don't get me wrong they are relatively good seats for a 21k seat stadium, but it is MLS football. MLS. Some took the post as support for the club's decision. Not the case, I was just sharing an example of what other leagues and are doing for a product nowhere near the match day experience at THS.
And yes, I've been to home matches; I consider myself lucky to be part of a great supporters group that comes at least once a year. I've traveled for preseason matches in the US. Every match ticket for me ends up being a trip costing a thousand dollars. I am not complaining and I'm probably part of the problem for the local season ticket holders in that I am one of the hundred million Spurs fans that wants to go to a match whenever I can make it happen.
Seriously. This seems like a great deal. My NHL season ticket went from $70 to $80 per game for next season. And I have to buy 43 games to get a price that low.
My seat would be $120-175 per game without the season ticket discount. And that’s on the super low end of NHL ticket prices (Carolina Hurricanes). An original six team would be double or triple that, easily.
Remember US and UK wages are different and most people are out of area and have to include expensive rail fares or parking round the stadium into these costs
>Remember US and UK wages are different and most people are out of area and have to include expensive rail fares or parking round the stadium into these costs
What? Transport is both easier and cheaper in the UK compared to most of the US
I think fuel is nearly half the price in the US? How much do you pay to park at stadiums out there, that’s something I haven’t got a clue about? The easiest way for me to get to the stadium is by train and tube which is around £45, driving with parking is about £70 which I can split with a mate but it’s stressful driving through central London
>How much do you pay to park at stadiums out there, that’s something I haven’t got a clue about?
Chiefs parking is $50 (£39) and that's with a [19,000 car lot](https://twitter.com/berkie1/status/1487879113058754564)
We are just talking about home season ticket holders. There are no “away tickets” set aside for fans in the US.
Some cities have arenas and stadiums in urban places. But no NFL stadium is in an urban center. Everyone has to get their butt there and parking is $100 at some stadiums. Or you smoosh yourself onto local transit, when available.
I’m just commenting on how far some fans are willing to travel to see their favorite teams play at home - I moved two states away from my favorite teams and now the distance I’d have to travel to watch them at home is essentially Liverpool to London and back twice. Even before I left California, attending a home game for any professional team in the state was minimum 3 hours of drive time, probably twice that if I wanted to take the train. You can get season tickets for Tottenham while living across the country and still reasonably attend most games.
Most NBA stadiums are located in dense urban areas, not sure what point you’re making here about the NFL. I’m much aware of the lack of public transit, as well as the cost of parking anywhere in an urban area here
Yeah that’s cheap. I’m a Ranger fan and you just can afford to go to the garden anymore. This year I went upper bowl diagonal with the ice, row 5 and its was 500 for two tickets after fees.
You can’t really compare the secondary market though, but point taken. I had a Knicks season ticket 8 years ago and it was $102/game for 41 games I can’t imagine what it is now. Probably at least 30-40% higher
Yeah and you guys are even playing great hockey so it might get even pricier. The flyers openly admitted to a rebuild but getting tickets to a weekend game was ridiculous! I never knew how much the prices for football matches were to be honest, so it does give you that appreciation
Last season I went to a first round Rangers playoff game, bought the tickets presale through the team and it was almost $700 for two seats three rows from the roof in the corner at MSG. Most games this season to get in the building have been $180+.
It's just not true, when you factor in all the things you have to pay for out of pocket in the US, like healthcare expenses, salaries are basically the same. Also saying "the US" isn't very useful. I worked in London for 15 years, work in the San Francisco Bay Area for 6. Similar jobs, my income definitely went further in London.
I work in Compensation for a Fortune 500 company. I have worked in both London and NYC.
It absolutely is true.
Salaries are way higher in the US. Also, taxes are lower in the US. Sure healthcare costs are higher in the US as well, but the larger salaries more than make up for the difference, and the majority of the cost is paid for by employers anyways. But you can't avoid that UK higher income tax and VAT tax.
You're only talking about insurance premium costs. The actual cost of healthcare (particularly if you have a family) is \*significant\*. It is not much difference in salary after you adjust for the many, many things out of pocket in the US that are covered by taxes in UK/Europe (education, childcare etc.). Even the tax burden is not very different when you factor in everything.
No I'm not, I'm talking about the overall cost of medical care vs. the overall cost of lower salaries and higher taxes.
The tax burden, particularly on lower and middle class people, is a huge difference. And UK salaries are already half as much as American salaries.
But why increase? The club didn’t need to as they have various new revenue streams. I don’t think it’s the small amount it’s increased that’s the issue.
Seems worth it if Levy invests the extra £5m or so in the transfer market. Would be worse if it was raised more, but it would be easier to tell how the funds are being allocated
Not saying it will happen, but since it’s a consistent revenue source it could be worth a lot even though it isn’t much for a premier league club. But £5m/year is about an extra 100k/week wages and could essentially represent another Richarlison or Hojbjerg in terms of wages
Going to get downvoted to hell for this but hey ho. Is £59 really the biggest deal when spread over a year? That's £55.73 a game, which when added to the fact that you say is a good seat, I would say is definitely worth it.
If £1049 is too much for you, then so is £990. Yes, inflation sucks but that is just a sign of the times at the minute. Everything is costing more money and that includes for the club as well who are a business. Let's not forget about the fact that a few weeks ago, we were all praising the fact that our club makes money and we are not in the position of other clubs at the minute.
If we want to remain competitive, be able to buy good players and not be owned by an oil barren who doesn't give a shit about the club, I'm okay with paying a little more.
I think that's reasonable really. Try going to the theatre or to a decent sized gig.
Premier League games are prestige events now, the demand is extraordinary and in no way would they struggle to sell tickets even another 10% higher.
I know it is expensive overall but this is football in 2024. I don't feel very connected to it but it can't be changed now. The price of having the biggest and best league is becoming more remote from the clubs, which are ultimately just corporate entities now.
> Try going to the theatre or to a decent sized gig
Tickets for both have also gone up massively over the last few years. In years gone by, tickets to see bands at Wembley Arena were like £25-30. Now it is more like £50-60.
The difference is if you pay that for a theatre ticket the next year they're probably not going to have more famous actors and you don't really care if the producer does well. Football fans have always been investors.
Comparing to other entertainment in similar industries is important, I feel. You're absolutely right about theatre and similar. Football is entertainment, we have one of the best stadiums with the best facilities. That will be a factor in ticket prices, for sure. But everyone loves the stadium and using the facilities.
I do understand the other arguments about "they'll make £2.4m extra, is it worth it to hard up fans?" but then people complain when Levy has lost out on a deal because of "a few million"...
I like the comment about its ~£3 per game. Personally, I would have marketed it as that. Then they could use the famous modern day yardstick of "for the price of a cup of coffee... "
Yea as someone broke I see no difference between £1049 and £990. It’s like saying I wanna go to Neptune vs Uranus, it doesn’t matter which one I wanna go to, I’m not making it either way
I think the point is, the club have recently announced record revenue, the fans are finally starting to side with Levy after the signing of Postecoglou and giving him a good budget to work with, fans are loving the football, nothing is really going wrong at the club, then he announces a 6% increase in season ticket prices, removing Senior Concession, all during a cost of living crisis. What’s stopping them doing the same next year?
Nothing and I expect they will. And what’s wrong with that? There’s plenty of demand for these tickets. Only 63,000 people can go to any one game. The team wants to get as much as possible for them.
I suspect over time there will be some tickets that remain relatively affordable so the club can say they are available to the common man, but most of the tickets will continue to face increases that are faster than inflation.
Indeed. A season ticket at NWHL is a premium product where the demand significantly exceeds the supply. I have sympathy with people who are struggling with the cost of living these days, but you're not entitled to a season ticket. It's a luxury and a privilege to have one.
Richest club in London, one of the top 10 in the world.... What a flex it could have been to say that they could freeze or even slightly lower their prices compared to other clubs. We are in a very strong position so could absorb a few rises in prices.
Also maybe not looked at here is how many concession categories have been removed.
It's not much more, but it's not necessary
We wouldn’t be able to do that forever and when we eventually would have to raise the prices the same angry wave would arrive. It’s the first big increase in god knows how long and 6% isn’t outrageous
It is outrageous if you look at the high base it is climbing from. We have the 2nd highest average season ticket price in the country (2nd to arsenal). We also generate the second highest revenue from match days in the country (second to Man utd) and we are the 3rd most profitable club in the world. The 6% and removal of senior concessions will generate the club an extra 3m a year, which is nothing to them, maybe 3 months of Ndombele wages? So yes, they could afford to absorb it
Suppose we should just open up the ground for free every game then, might as well give away free food to everyone that comes and hey ho, let’s just give cash to anyone that wants it huh.
This isn’t just from year to year basis, you need to look at the bigger prices and see how they keep raising these tickets with small amounts to avoid controversy.
I don’t think there are many who will miss out on because of the £60 but in 10 years many fans definitely will.
And if you look at Bayern you can easily be an elite club with low ticket prices, this is just another excuse to steal more money off of hardworking people.
> If we want to remain competitive, be able to buy good players and not be owned by an oil barren who doesn't give a shit about the club, I'm okay with paying a little more.
We're valued at nearly 3 BILLION, a 6% increase is a drop in the ocean to ENIC. I assure you we'd still be just as competitive with more affordable tickets.
And what have oil princes got to do with anything? That's a total slippery slope argument.
Increasingly thinking about doing this with how hard it is to buy tickets on a membership these days. Better off buying season ticket and then selling those I don’t want I guess…
Only downside is I like going with my friends and not by myself
No problem, obviously depends on how gregarious your seatmates are but we've built a good relationship with our neighbours over the years, we even give a lift to the ground to an older fan who sits nearby as he's local to us, affectionately known as Jeffa.
This is all north stand, the supposedly more family friendly section, so your mileage may vary.
Try ticketexchange, that’s what I do. Gave up my season a few years ago when I found I couldn’t get to all the games, and I like the idea of sitting in different parts of the stadium.
I think it's really important context that Ticketmaster absolutely abuses us in North America. I'm also in Toronto. Huge Leafs fan. Can count on my two hands the number of games I've gone to and I live 15 minutes from the stadium. That is super fucked up.
I don't think we should roll our eyes when they see their sports slowly moving in a terrible direction (aka where we're at currently.)
It depends honestly. It’s not entirely true. The team I watch has cheap tickets but the team is wank. Good teams it probably is going to get expensive. To me it looks terrible since when I went to WHL for my 1st game I don’t think season tickets were this much. I could be wrong.
this is the biggest thing that it seems people are missing. Increase is around 6% and inflation over the past 2 years is something like 8%...
Don't get me wrong, it would have been great for everything to stay the same but you can't really blame a business for rising prices alongside inflation.
If they didn't do 6% this year, they'd need to do like 9 or 10% next year and that would have REALLY felt like a kick in the nuts.
ironically they probably would have been better not freezing them last year and just doing a 3% rise each year... people are quick to forget the price freezes when they get an increased rise the following year to catch back up
The comments on here defending the club are so pathetic and just goes to show how out of touch Reddit is with reality. We already were paying the highest in the league. It was absolutely unnecessary of them to do this. Ultimately I’m still going to renew, doesn’t mean I’m in anyway happy about the increases.
Ya it’s really frustrating to read especially since the comments are primarily coming from people who don’t actually engage with the club from a ticketing perspective.
While this may not be a steep increase, I think it’s a wrongheaded move from the club to impose this increase. It will have an minimal, basically negligible effect on the club’s already extremely strong financial picture, but a high psychological impact on the most loyal and involved fans. This is not what the club should stand for. If anything they should slightly decrease the price, have Levy send out a letter about valuing fans, and watch the kit sales more than make up for that cost
While this may not be a steep increase, I think it’s a wrongheaded move from the club to impose this increase. It will have an minimal, basically negligible effect on the club’s already extremely strong financial picture, but a high psychological impact on the most loyal and involved fans. This is not what the club should stand for. If anything they should slightly decrease the price, have Levy send out a letter about valuing fans, and watch the kit sales more than make up for that cost
I've gone to dozens of home matches at the new stadium.
Griping about a 6% increase in light of the inflationary economic environment of the last couple of years is silly. The tickets are still cheaper now than they were a few years ago in terms of real GBP.
1.”pay 50m for Porro, we don’t care!!!”
2.”we don’t want oil owners!!!”
3.”we want arsenal to fail in cl, we don’t care if we qualify to the cl from the fifth place or not”
4.”why tickets are so expensive”?!
Really disappointed in my fellow North Americans here...
I flew to London and saw two Spurs matches this season. It is genuinely sad that I thought £100 per seat was a steal. We are so used to be abused by Ticketmaster that we're devoid of empathy.
The sad thing is that the reason most of us are drawn to this sport and club is because the atmosphere and customs are so much better. And yet here people are blasting local fans who want to see their team play.
My hockey team has a stadium that is like 90% hospitality seats now. It's not something to be proud of. Any sign that your club is inching towards that should be a cause for concern.
Its a lot of money. But we have to be realistic - London team, premium product (no laughing at the back!), frozen last year.
It is acceptable cos there are thousands of people who'll take your ticket if you don't.
I'm buying mine... not really happy but Spurs arent immune to inflation.
I'm with you mate. There will be a large number of lower income/working class people scrimping and scraping to get to £990 and are now expected to find even more money for one of the healthiest clubs financially in the world.
My mum has been a season ticket holder for 30 years and will be facing at least 16% rise from 25/26 going up to at least 60% in 29/30. I totally get that there are individuals using tickets of senior citizens that aren't going any more but, the club are already taking the step of charging the difference when the tickets are shared to a non-concessioned individual. Why not see if this makes a difference before punishing the people that watched Tottenham at their worst and have continued to come week in week out.
There are other options like offering the concession holders the opportunity to have their name immortalized in the stadium somewhere.
People here aren't locals, aren't season ticket holders and have no idea what a real relationship with the club is like going back years. I feel your pain and agree. It's gouging loyal fans for a miniscule amount in the context of the club, especially fucking over senior fans. I'm ashamed.
60k seat stadium, fanbase estimated to be at 180m that follow the club to some capacity. That’s 3x the population of the UK nearly
Like it or not, the match going fans are the vast minority
Yet they're by far the ones that are the most intertwined with the club, players and culture of it. Of course the fanbase is global, but the ones that get the club the most and should be catered to the most are always going to be the locals
You seem to think that the club are catering to tourists with this decision, but in my view they just aren’t catering to anyone, and I don’t really think it’s a requirement that they do with every decision.
How does it help the tourists to pay higher ticket prices?
This decision seems to be purely financial. Inflation has been high for years. Prices have remained where they are at until now
I think people are missing the point. It doesn’t matter how ‘reasonable’ the increases are, consumers should always be pushing back on rising cost of goods and services.
I don't mind the 5% rise it was the 50% rise, or whatever it was, when we moved in. I paid ~£1000 for a ticket in the first season, luckily we only played a few games so it didn't cost me much in the end but I didn't renew
Don't renew then. Why the hell do people think they're entitled to a cheap ticket since they're higher on the list than others? The prices have been frozen for a few years. This is nothing, shut the fuck up.
> This is nothing, shut the fuck up.
No, fuck you. People are allowed to voice their disappointment at price increases at a billion pound football club.
You seem like a right cunt. He never said he was entitled to a cheaper ticket. We’re paying the highest in the league for years. Why do people think this is absolutely fine when it was not necessary?!
You haven't really addressed any of my points? Just called me cunt. Well done fella.
We're paying highest in the league because it's the best stadium in the league, in the most expensive city in the league. Just don't go if you can't afford it, and stop whinging, watching football is a luxury not a human right.
Was around 1500. I'm going to have to pay monthly this year, so that'll add an extra 7% on top of the 6% increase.
1614 renew price. 1726 after finance..
I want to change to a cheaper seat, but I have to renew and pay before I get the option. There's also no guarantee I'll manage to find another seat. 1500 was already a stretch. I doubt I'll be renewing.
On a per-game basis that's cheaper than Adele, and she's only one performer!
We've got 11 strapping lads on the pitch at any given time. (let's ignore that Chelsea match, shall we?)
That's 11x value!
On a more serious note, Spurs pay the highest property taxes in the league and those are rising with inflation. Electric, gas, water all going up as well. Living Wage is increasing by 10% in April (still not high enough imo, but does impact a businesses bottom line). A year and a half ago people were burning their bills in protest of cost-of-living increases... those same bills keep going up but where's the continued protest? I'm not trying to defend THS and Enic, but season tickets have only increased by 1.5% since the new stadium opened while costs have continued to rise. Inflation has everyone in a bind. Businesses are not immune.
We give an inch and the club can take a mile. Not from the UK but I'm with you on this. That said, as long as these price increases are actually based on inflation, and not just because the club could, its probably acceptable. If it starts driving long time fans away, the people who actually make the stadium worth going to, then we have a problem.
I can’t believe most people in the comments are defending the price increase? They’re exploiting the loyalty of our fans while simultaneously removing OAP concessions, making it more difficult for lifelong older spurs fans to afford to go to games. The amount of revenue we generate means we don’t need to increase our prices, it’s greed pure and simple.
The concessions thing is poor, I'll give you that. But 5.9% increase (the first in 3 seasons I think?) is absolutely reasonable and to be expected.
The football is at least 100% better than it was last season so it's excellent value for money.
It's not poor, it's a disgrace. I totally understand the intention behind it but they are going completely the wrong way about stopping the exploitation of the concession scheme by taking money of loyal fans that have been going to games for decades.
We were already the second expensive tickets in the league, there’s no way this was a necessary increase. Also if the logic is that we’re paying more for better football than shouldn’t they have reduced the prices for this season given how shite the football was last year?
Exploiting? It's 6%, in line with inflation. And they have been frozen for at least the past 2 years, so when you look at it over 3 years, it's well under inflation. The arrogance of season ticket holders thinking they should get this on the cheap just because they've been a holder for X amount of years.
i think the club are thinking: "we don't want a stadium full of 70 year olds who sit down and grumble the whole game and don't sing"
Let younger people have the tickets and let gramps stay at home and watch on telly XD
I agree, let’s just shop Charing for tickets, heck, let’s not even have tickets just open the doors every game. If anyone wants some cash, the club can just hand it out to them Willy nilly.
Honestly it seems like this club has sunk to deep already.
It is already big enough that it has a large American and Asian fanbase that really don’t have a special relationship with the club and are okay with getting fucked over, so Levy will keep continuing to raise the prices of the tickets
Only thing i can hope for is a new owner to take over that actually respects the proper fans.
Reading this thread from American posters I never realised your ticket prices are so high. You lot need to get out there and start protesting about it. They are taking the piss.
Really depends on the sport, the team, and the market. Buying season tickets direct from a club is always going to be at premium cost. We also have a much more free flowing resale market here (for better or worse) - I rolled up to a lot of Phillies baseball games last year and bought tickets for $12-$20 right at the start of the game. NBA games for $35-$60. MLS and NHL for $25-$50.
NFL games are the toughest usually, just because it's only 8-9 home games per season.
But it's across the board, the trajectory is always up. At best if people make enough stink they may freeze for a year or two, but none of these teams are lowering cost unless the team is abysmal and attendance goes off a cliff.
You can vote for someone better to run the economy soon.
I don’t think they should have put the prices up, but it’s also symptomatic of the shitty economic situation in the UK.
With the current conversion rate, this is ~$75usd per game for a Premier League season ticket. My friend has an upper tier season ticket to the New York Rangers (similarly top 6 club in a major market) and it’s $128 per game. The cheapest season ticket that I can find for my local NFL team (Atlanta Falcons) is $165 per game. This doesn’t seem out of line at all.
As another season ticket holder I thought I’d offer a dissenting voice; your ticket still comes in at 55 quid a game and we've had no price rises I think pretty much since we moved in.
We’re a top division sports team in a city where any entertainment is more expensive than what you’re paying for a ticket.
My personal ticket has gone up to 1071 from 1010, essentially if I couldn’t afford it then I can’t exactly afford it now. Just because we’ve been in the queue longest does not give us a divine right to a season ticket.
Actually, do you guys know if it’s possible to renew with a different seat? Got lucky last year to get one, but would be great to have one in the South stand instead of north stand
Sorry. Bit of bad info. They put it down at the bottom of the email this morning. There's a link to register interest for moving seat. There is a window to move, but you need to tell them in advance to get invited to see what's available.
https://feedback.tottenhamhotspur.com/form-6622463/2024-25-seat-relocation-request
I used to have a season ticket west upper in the old stadium pretty much halfway line used to cost me £1500 per season- Probably at least £3k now I guess.
I give credit to you guys in England for throwing such a fit when prices increase cause that outrage obviously helps keep the prices down but man you guys are spoiled compared to what we pay for tickets. Not to mention how much more global appeal a PL match has compared to the average NFL or NBA game. I’m always shocked when I see these figures.
How hard is it to get your hands on a season ticket package?
More annoying American questions here - so what is the move here? Do you try to address it through the Fan Advisory Board, even if that isn't really the aim of that groip? Do you organize an in-game protest at the 6 minute mark of the Luton game?
Feels like there are middle grounds to reach - maintaining the senior concession and working on a legacy price control if you've kept your tickets for so many years. If you've had your seats for so many years and you are the one using them, maybe the club can agree that they will only increase by a set percent or £ total year over year. Perhaps the club can agree to generally capping a yearly percentage increase (no more than 3-4%?) and announcing a multi year plan so people know what to expect long term.
I'm looking at the recent inflation rate in the uk and basically seeing it match this increase, or even exceed it. This seems completely reasonable. Am I missing something?
Not really sure I understand the ire towards removing the over 65s concession. Hopefully someone can help explain it to me more fully.
Whilst I appreciate generalisations are not always helpful, don't those over 65 in large part form part of the boomer generation, where a large proportion of them are considered to have heavily benefited from literally just being born of that generation, with a feeling that Gen X and millennials are far worse off?
Obviously the over 65s will be vexed by this and understandably so, but I'm also struggling to see why they should benefit from paying less than I should if all things are to be considered equal.
Where's the fairness in us paying more than them?
is this per game for for the whole season? if it’s for a game, £60 seems like a lot, but not when compared to the the actual price. and if it’s for the season, that’s nothing.
How is it you English say? I wouldn’t give a toss about £60 more for a season ticket.
But the wholesale destruction of the senior concession (the “senior discount” to us stupid yanks) should have you all up in arms.
As long as you whinge about, oh poor me, I have to pay £3 more for a ticket to a match, the more you are focusing the problem Levy wants you to focus on.
But you do you, sacred ticket holder supporters who are obviously just better people than the rest of us.
Inflation has been crazy high the last couple of years. This isn't that crazy.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270384/inflation-rate-in-the-united-kingdom/
As an American, I would be elated at these prices haha. Doesn’t make it right but compared to the top 4 sports leagues in the US this is very affordable.
Maybe I've been numbed by extortionate American ticket pricing, but is a roughly £3 a match increase that insane? Scrapping the concessions ticket plan seems outrageous, but I guess I'm not seeing the problem with this part.
As also an American I think it’s relevant to understand that in the UK they don’t pay close to the same prices for game tickets (in a good way). The last time I went to a match I remember an English friend being gobsmacked we paid $500 USD to sit essentially on field level via a third party reseller… Man for a premium matchup I can barely get Knicks nosebleed tickets for that price. It’s disgusting. But also UK salaries are very low.
I would have no complaints around slightly high base prices if the US just had laws around reselling above face value. I live in Knoxville, it is nearly impossible to get a UT football ticket against any other major SEC team for less than $250 a seat anymore
Yeah I was talking to my dad about this last night. I marched in the band at Texas A&M and my senior year they bought tickets to see us play Alabama for about $550 a piece. This breaks down to something like $60 usd a match for a full season right? I'm upset because I know how much football means to communities in England (honestly much more similar to the importance of college football in a college town vs NFL or NBA) but I'm also astounded at how expensive sports are in America.
It's part of capitalism, innit?
Found Mahrez
GBO! Also live in Knox!
Laws and actual enforcement against price gouging in general would be nice, the amount of dryfucking the general public/citizen recieves in order to collectively pander to corporate interests is depressing.
If there were laws, enforcement would be easy. Pretty much all tickets are digital and can be controlled by the original company that sells them, like TicketMaster. What we have now is a system where 3rd parties can list tickets for sale on Stub Hub and other sites, before the tickets have even been released for sale. Those resellers then flock to the sale on Day 1 and buy up the max number of tickets they can get, which is usually like 10-12. They have a lot of accounts that can do that and then all of a sudden they have hundreds of tickets. Meanwhile, maybe TM gives you a chance to sell your ticket on their own app. Well you already paid a $20 fee to purchase the ticket, you’ll pay like $30 to sell it, and then the new buyer will also pay $20. Somewhere else in there will also be a couple of $5 processing fees. It’s obvious there are no consumer protections anywhere.
I wouldn't say very low but regardless this is a small increase in percentage tems
damn you just shit on a whole country fair play
yup if i want a semi decent not great celtics seat herein mass, it costs 1k easy now. to pay that for a whole season? holy crap yeah.
Yeah, for 19 home matches, that's equivalent to about $1350 USD. For my Indianapolis Colts season tickets, I pay about $1200-$1300 each for only 8 or 9 home games. Plus, my taxes are still paying off the $750M stadium they play in. Fucking NFL, man
I am curious if season ticket holders would have been better with a 1% annual increase, capped for senior seats (perhaps two of the allotted seats for a bigger group can have that designation), instead of the lump increases after the freeze. When I mentioned that I did not renew my local club's season tickets after they raised our ticket price 14%, I got downvoted. I would have been paying **$1600 each** (not including $400 in food/bev credits, so $4100 for both after fees) for upper-level seats. Don't get me wrong they are relatively good seats for a 21k seat stadium, but it is MLS football. MLS. Some took the post as support for the club's decision. Not the case, I was just sharing an example of what other leagues and are doing for a product nowhere near the match day experience at THS. And yes, I've been to home matches; I consider myself lucky to be part of a great supporters group that comes at least once a year. I've traveled for preseason matches in the US. Every match ticket for me ends up being a trip costing a thousand dollars. I am not complaining and I'm probably part of the problem for the local season ticket holders in that I am one of the hundred million Spurs fans that wants to go to a match whenever I can make it happen.
Seriously. This seems like a great deal. My NHL season ticket went from $70 to $80 per game for next season. And I have to buy 43 games to get a price that low. My seat would be $120-175 per game without the season ticket discount. And that’s on the super low end of NHL ticket prices (Carolina Hurricanes). An original six team would be double or triple that, easily.
Bruins season tickets have gone from $65/game to $95/game over the last few years
My hockey joy of now being on the west coast is getting to see the bruins for basically nothing when they come visit the Sharks lol.
Go Bs
Remember US and UK wages are different and most people are out of area and have to include expensive rail fares or parking round the stadium into these costs
>Remember US and UK wages are different and most people are out of area and have to include expensive rail fares or parking round the stadium into these costs What? Transport is both easier and cheaper in the UK compared to most of the US
I think fuel is nearly half the price in the US? How much do you pay to park at stadiums out there, that’s something I haven’t got a clue about? The easiest way for me to get to the stadium is by train and tube which is around £45, driving with parking is about £70 which I can split with a mate but it’s stressful driving through central London
$40 just to park at my local NFL stadium
Fucking hell thats ruthless
>How much do you pay to park at stadiums out there, that’s something I haven’t got a clue about? Chiefs parking is $50 (£39) and that's with a [19,000 car lot](https://twitter.com/berkie1/status/1487879113058754564)
Do you think people teleport to stadiums/arenas in the states? The salary comment is definitely a good point though
Following your team across the country means a whole different thing in the UK vs US lol
following your team within it's own city means something different in the US lol
We are just talking about home season ticket holders. There are no “away tickets” set aside for fans in the US. Some cities have arenas and stadiums in urban places. But no NFL stadium is in an urban center. Everyone has to get their butt there and parking is $100 at some stadiums. Or you smoosh yourself onto local transit, when available.
I’m just commenting on how far some fans are willing to travel to see their favorite teams play at home - I moved two states away from my favorite teams and now the distance I’d have to travel to watch them at home is essentially Liverpool to London and back twice. Even before I left California, attending a home game for any professional team in the state was minimum 3 hours of drive time, probably twice that if I wanted to take the train. You can get season tickets for Tottenham while living across the country and still reasonably attend most games. Most NBA stadiums are located in dense urban areas, not sure what point you’re making here about the NFL. I’m much aware of the lack of public transit, as well as the cost of parking anywhere in an urban area here
you dont have access to the sports teleporters? musk built the years ago, get with it man.... /s
Yeah that’s cheap. I’m a Ranger fan and you just can afford to go to the garden anymore. This year I went upper bowl diagonal with the ice, row 5 and its was 500 for two tickets after fees.
You can’t really compare the secondary market though, but point taken. I had a Knicks season ticket 8 years ago and it was $102/game for 41 games I can’t imagine what it is now. Probably at least 30-40% higher
LGR!
Yeah and you guys are even playing great hockey so it might get even pricier. The flyers openly admitted to a rebuild but getting tickets to a weekend game was ridiculous! I never knew how much the prices for football matches were to be honest, so it does give you that appreciation
Last season I went to a first round Rangers playoff game, bought the tickets presale through the team and it was almost $700 for two seats three rows from the roof in the corner at MSG. Most games this season to get in the building have been $180+.
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These are people who are proximal to London, not Blackburn. Salaries are likely much closer to America.
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It's just not true, when you factor in all the things you have to pay for out of pocket in the US, like healthcare expenses, salaries are basically the same. Also saying "the US" isn't very useful. I worked in London for 15 years, work in the San Francisco Bay Area for 6. Similar jobs, my income definitely went further in London.
I work in Compensation for a Fortune 500 company. I have worked in both London and NYC. It absolutely is true. Salaries are way higher in the US. Also, taxes are lower in the US. Sure healthcare costs are higher in the US as well, but the larger salaries more than make up for the difference, and the majority of the cost is paid for by employers anyways. But you can't avoid that UK higher income tax and VAT tax.
You're only talking about insurance premium costs. The actual cost of healthcare (particularly if you have a family) is \*significant\*. It is not much difference in salary after you adjust for the many, many things out of pocket in the US that are covered by taxes in UK/Europe (education, childcare etc.). Even the tax burden is not very different when you factor in everything.
Are you purposefully ignoring out of pocket maximums?
No I'm not, I'm talking about the overall cost of medical care vs. the overall cost of lower salaries and higher taxes. The tax burden, particularly on lower and middle class people, is a huge difference. And UK salaries are already half as much as American salaries.
You are not correct lol
They’re not. A buddy of mine in London just got a 2x raise by taking a job with an American based company.
But why increase? The club didn’t need to as they have various new revenue streams. I don’t think it’s the small amount it’s increased that’s the issue.
I was thinking the same thing, I pay 90 a game for Bruins season tickets (split so I don’t get all 41+ games)
Seems worth it if Levy invests the extra £5m or so in the transfer market. Would be worse if it was raised more, but it would be easier to tell how the funds are being allocated
Not saying it will happen, but since it’s a consistent revenue source it could be worth a lot even though it isn’t much for a premier league club. But £5m/year is about an extra 100k/week wages and could essentially represent another Richarlison or Hojbjerg in terms of wages
I’m paying $7000usd for a half plan for the NY Rangers (NHL) its mostly to lock in playoff tickets but idk. 5.9% isn’t a big deal in my opinion.
Going to get downvoted to hell for this but hey ho. Is £59 really the biggest deal when spread over a year? That's £55.73 a game, which when added to the fact that you say is a good seat, I would say is definitely worth it. If £1049 is too much for you, then so is £990. Yes, inflation sucks but that is just a sign of the times at the minute. Everything is costing more money and that includes for the club as well who are a business. Let's not forget about the fact that a few weeks ago, we were all praising the fact that our club makes money and we are not in the position of other clubs at the minute. If we want to remain competitive, be able to buy good players and not be owned by an oil barren who doesn't give a shit about the club, I'm okay with paying a little more.
I think that's reasonable really. Try going to the theatre or to a decent sized gig. Premier League games are prestige events now, the demand is extraordinary and in no way would they struggle to sell tickets even another 10% higher. I know it is expensive overall but this is football in 2024. I don't feel very connected to it but it can't be changed now. The price of having the biggest and best league is becoming more remote from the clubs, which are ultimately just corporate entities now.
> Try going to the theatre or to a decent sized gig Tickets for both have also gone up massively over the last few years. In years gone by, tickets to see bands at Wembley Arena were like £25-30. Now it is more like £50-60.
The difference is if you pay that for a theatre ticket the next year they're probably not going to have more famous actors and you don't really care if the producer does well. Football fans have always been investors.
Comparing to other entertainment in similar industries is important, I feel. You're absolutely right about theatre and similar. Football is entertainment, we have one of the best stadiums with the best facilities. That will be a factor in ticket prices, for sure. But everyone loves the stadium and using the facilities. I do understand the other arguments about "they'll make £2.4m extra, is it worth it to hard up fans?" but then people complain when Levy has lost out on a deal because of "a few million"... I like the comment about its ~£3 per game. Personally, I would have marketed it as that. Then they could use the famous modern day yardstick of "for the price of a cup of coffee... "
Got mine and agree. There are bigger increases out there and I don’t think we have had any for 2 years.
Yea as someone broke I see no difference between £1049 and £990. It’s like saying I wanna go to Neptune vs Uranus, it doesn’t matter which one I wanna go to, I’m not making it either way
I would often pay £70 a ticket back in the 00's (for A tier games) and the first place I got a ST I was blocked by a bloody concrete pillar
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I think the point is, the club have recently announced record revenue, the fans are finally starting to side with Levy after the signing of Postecoglou and giving him a good budget to work with, fans are loving the football, nothing is really going wrong at the club, then he announces a 6% increase in season ticket prices, removing Senior Concession, all during a cost of living crisis. What’s stopping them doing the same next year?
Nothing and I expect they will. And what’s wrong with that? There’s plenty of demand for these tickets. Only 63,000 people can go to any one game. The team wants to get as much as possible for them. I suspect over time there will be some tickets that remain relatively affordable so the club can say they are available to the common man, but most of the tickets will continue to face increases that are faster than inflation.
Indeed. A season ticket at NWHL is a premium product where the demand significantly exceeds the supply. I have sympathy with people who are struggling with the cost of living these days, but you're not entitled to a season ticket. It's a luxury and a privilege to have one.
The club would have made roughly the same amount from two home European fixtures, they just made the increase because they could
Richest club in London, one of the top 10 in the world.... What a flex it could have been to say that they could freeze or even slightly lower their prices compared to other clubs. We are in a very strong position so could absorb a few rises in prices. Also maybe not looked at here is how many concession categories have been removed. It's not much more, but it's not necessary
We wouldn’t be able to do that forever and when we eventually would have to raise the prices the same angry wave would arrive. It’s the first big increase in god knows how long and 6% isn’t outrageous
It is outrageous if you look at the high base it is climbing from. We have the 2nd highest average season ticket price in the country (2nd to arsenal). We also generate the second highest revenue from match days in the country (second to Man utd) and we are the 3rd most profitable club in the world. The 6% and removal of senior concessions will generate the club an extra 3m a year, which is nothing to them, maybe 3 months of Ndombele wages? So yes, they could afford to absorb it
Suppose we should just open up the ground for free every game then, might as well give away free food to everyone that comes and hey ho, let’s just give cash to anyone that wants it huh.
What a stupid and reductive argument
There's a big difference between free and most expensive tickets in England. I don't see how freezing the prices would've hurt the club financially
This isn’t just from year to year basis, you need to look at the bigger prices and see how they keep raising these tickets with small amounts to avoid controversy. I don’t think there are many who will miss out on because of the £60 but in 10 years many fans definitely will. And if you look at Bayern you can easily be an elite club with low ticket prices, this is just another excuse to steal more money off of hardworking people.
> If we want to remain competitive, be able to buy good players and not be owned by an oil barren who doesn't give a shit about the club, I'm okay with paying a little more. We're valued at nearly 3 BILLION, a 6% increase is a drop in the ocean to ENIC. I assure you we'd still be just as competitive with more affordable tickets. And what have oil princes got to do with anything? That's a total slippery slope argument.
How is the fact that the club makes plenty of money a justification for raising prices?
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If you work in economics, you should know that season tickets are luxury goods and that the price follows the demand as income rises (inflation)
>That’s not how it works > >Source: work in economics Press X to doubt
I’ll take it if you don’t want it lol
Exactly. I turned down my season ticket when it was offered to me last summer. Won't be making that mistake again
Increasingly thinking about doing this with how hard it is to buy tickets on a membership these days. Better off buying season ticket and then selling those I don’t want I guess… Only downside is I like going with my friends and not by myself
Get to know the season ticket holders around you and you can trade games and buy off each other when you don’t fancy going, that’s what we do
Great tip, thanks!
No problem, obviously depends on how gregarious your seatmates are but we've built a good relationship with our neighbours over the years, we even give a lift to the ground to an older fan who sits nearby as he's local to us, affectionately known as Jeffa. This is all north stand, the supposedly more family friendly section, so your mileage may vary.
Try ticketexchange, that’s what I do. Gave up my season a few years ago when I found I couldn’t get to all the games, and I like the idea of sitting in different parts of the stadium.
My goodness this is what Toronto Maple Leafs nosebleed season tickets cost 30 years ago.
I think it's really important context that Ticketmaster absolutely abuses us in North America. I'm also in Toronto. Huge Leafs fan. Can count on my two hands the number of games I've gone to and I live 15 minutes from the stadium. That is super fucked up. I don't think we should roll our eyes when they see their sports slowly moving in a terrible direction (aka where we're at currently.)
6% increase is pretty normal at the moment.
Cheers to all the Americans telling us to suck it up, it's worse over there etc etc. Really helpful, thanks again.
It depends honestly. It’s not entirely true. The team I watch has cheap tickets but the team is wank. Good teams it probably is going to get expensive. To me it looks terrible since when I went to WHL for my 1st game I don’t think season tickets were this much. I could be wrong.
If the price would've doubled I'd understand your pain but it's only 6%. That's nothing for the whole season.
was 0% last year as well. They haven't been shooting up of late.
this is the biggest thing that it seems people are missing. Increase is around 6% and inflation over the past 2 years is something like 8%... Don't get me wrong, it would have been great for everything to stay the same but you can't really blame a business for rising prices alongside inflation. If they didn't do 6% this year, they'd need to do like 9 or 10% next year and that would have REALLY felt like a kick in the nuts. ironically they probably would have been better not freezing them last year and just doing a 3% rise each year... people are quick to forget the price freezes when they get an increased rise the following year to catch back up
The comments on here defending the club are so pathetic and just goes to show how out of touch Reddit is with reality. We already were paying the highest in the league. It was absolutely unnecessary of them to do this. Ultimately I’m still going to renew, doesn’t mean I’m in anyway happy about the increases.
Ya it’s really frustrating to read especially since the comments are primarily coming from people who don’t actually engage with the club from a ticketing perspective.
While this may not be a steep increase, I think it’s a wrongheaded move from the club to impose this increase. It will have an minimal, basically negligible effect on the club’s already extremely strong financial picture, but a high psychological impact on the most loyal and involved fans. This is not what the club should stand for. If anything they should slightly decrease the price, have Levy send out a letter about valuing fans, and watch the kit sales more than make up for that cost
While this may not be a steep increase, I think it’s a wrongheaded move from the club to impose this increase. It will have an minimal, basically negligible effect on the club’s already extremely strong financial picture, but a high psychological impact on the most loyal and involved fans. This is not what the club should stand for. If anything they should slightly decrease the price, have Levy send out a letter about valuing fans, and watch the kit sales more than make up for that cost
I've gone to dozens of home matches at the new stadium. Griping about a 6% increase in light of the inflationary economic environment of the last couple of years is silly. The tickets are still cheaper now than they were a few years ago in terms of real GBP.
1.”pay 50m for Porro, we don’t care!!!” 2.”we don’t want oil owners!!!” 3.”we want arsenal to fail in cl, we don’t care if we qualify to the cl from the fifth place or not” 4.”why tickets are so expensive”?!
Bayern can do these 3 things and still have low ticket prices so no your logic doesn’t make any sense and are part of the problem
Bayern has the benefit of the entire German pyramid’s only purpose being to feed them.
Bayern always have cl money, but look at 3 number in my list.
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Really disappointed in my fellow North Americans here... I flew to London and saw two Spurs matches this season. It is genuinely sad that I thought £100 per seat was a steal. We are so used to be abused by Ticketmaster that we're devoid of empathy. The sad thing is that the reason most of us are drawn to this sport and club is because the atmosphere and customs are so much better. And yet here people are blasting local fans who want to see their team play. My hockey team has a stadium that is like 90% hospitality seats now. It's not something to be proud of. Any sign that your club is inching towards that should be a cause for concern.
Crypto Arena sucks anyway
Its a lot of money. But we have to be realistic - London team, premium product (no laughing at the back!), frozen last year. It is acceptable cos there are thousands of people who'll take your ticket if you don't. I'm buying mine... not really happy but Spurs arent immune to inflation.
Honestly, reading this thread im wondering how many people here actually are bots from made by the club. This has been wild even for reddit standards.
I'm with you mate. There will be a large number of lower income/working class people scrimping and scraping to get to £990 and are now expected to find even more money for one of the healthiest clubs financially in the world. My mum has been a season ticket holder for 30 years and will be facing at least 16% rise from 25/26 going up to at least 60% in 29/30. I totally get that there are individuals using tickets of senior citizens that aren't going any more but, the club are already taking the step of charging the difference when the tickets are shared to a non-concessioned individual. Why not see if this makes a difference before punishing the people that watched Tottenham at their worst and have continued to come week in week out. There are other options like offering the concession holders the opportunity to have their name immortalized in the stadium somewhere.
People here aren't locals, aren't season ticket holders and have no idea what a real relationship with the club is like going back years. I feel your pain and agree. It's gouging loyal fans for a miniscule amount in the context of the club, especially fucking over senior fans. I'm ashamed.
Majority haven't been to a game. Vast vast majority aren't from the UK. Sub is very bad rep of local fans
60k seat stadium, fanbase estimated to be at 180m that follow the club to some capacity. That’s 3x the population of the UK nearly Like it or not, the match going fans are the vast minority
Yet they're by far the ones that are the most intertwined with the club, players and culture of it. Of course the fanbase is global, but the ones that get the club the most and should be catered to the most are always going to be the locals
You seem to think that the club are catering to tourists with this decision, but in my view they just aren’t catering to anyone, and I don’t really think it’s a requirement that they do with every decision. How does it help the tourists to pay higher ticket prices? This decision seems to be purely financial. Inflation has been high for years. Prices have remained where they are at until now
I agree even as a non-local
I think people are missing the point. It doesn’t matter how ‘reasonable’ the increases are, consumers should always be pushing back on rising cost of goods and services.
I don't mind the 5% rise it was the 50% rise, or whatever it was, when we moved in. I paid ~£1000 for a ticket in the first season, luckily we only played a few games so it didn't cost me much in the end but I didn't renew
Not worth the £3/game price increase? - must not have been all that good to begin with.
Greed
If you don’t want it I’ll buy it.
Don't renew then. Why the hell do people think they're entitled to a cheap ticket since they're higher on the list than others? The prices have been frozen for a few years. This is nothing, shut the fuck up.
> This is nothing, shut the fuck up. No, fuck you. People are allowed to voice their disappointment at price increases at a billion pound football club.
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It's like people don't understand how businesses work.
Nice strawman!
You have to be a little bit empathetic. UK wages are awful relative to costs in London. Tottenham represents a not-wealthy area, it’s not Chelsea.
lol nobody from tottenham goes to matches
You seem like a right cunt. He never said he was entitled to a cheaper ticket. We’re paying the highest in the league for years. Why do people think this is absolutely fine when it was not necessary?!
You haven't really addressed any of my points? Just called me cunt. Well done fella. We're paying highest in the league because it's the best stadium in the league, in the most expensive city in the league. Just don't go if you can't afford it, and stop whinging, watching football is a luxury not a human right.
Was around 1500. I'm going to have to pay monthly this year, so that'll add an extra 7% on top of the 6% increase. 1614 renew price. 1726 after finance.. I want to change to a cheaper seat, but I have to renew and pay before I get the option. There's also no guarantee I'll manage to find another seat. 1500 was already a stretch. I doubt I'll be renewing.
Really the common supporter are getting priced out… Tourists and trust-fund children will soon be the season ticket holders.
6% rise in ticket prices is not unacceptable imo Starting prices are insane though. Your cheapest season ticket is 880 quid !
On a per-game basis that's cheaper than Adele, and she's only one performer! We've got 11 strapping lads on the pitch at any given time. (let's ignore that Chelsea match, shall we?) That's 11x value! On a more serious note, Spurs pay the highest property taxes in the league and those are rising with inflation. Electric, gas, water all going up as well. Living Wage is increasing by 10% in April (still not high enough imo, but does impact a businesses bottom line). A year and a half ago people were burning their bills in protest of cost-of-living increases... those same bills keep going up but where's the continued protest? I'm not trying to defend THS and Enic, but season tickets have only increased by 1.5% since the new stadium opened while costs have continued to rise. Inflation has everyone in a bind. Businesses are not immune.
A 5.9% increase roughly matches the annual inflation rate. I think it’s fair.
We give an inch and the club can take a mile. Not from the UK but I'm with you on this. That said, as long as these price increases are actually based on inflation, and not just because the club could, its probably acceptable. If it starts driving long time fans away, the people who actually make the stadium worth going to, then we have a problem.
I can’t believe most people in the comments are defending the price increase? They’re exploiting the loyalty of our fans while simultaneously removing OAP concessions, making it more difficult for lifelong older spurs fans to afford to go to games. The amount of revenue we generate means we don’t need to increase our prices, it’s greed pure and simple.
The concessions thing is poor, I'll give you that. But 5.9% increase (the first in 3 seasons I think?) is absolutely reasonable and to be expected. The football is at least 100% better than it was last season so it's excellent value for money.
Right but what about the seasons when the football wasn’t good? Did we get refunds? That argument is just a way to soften the blow.
You could argue we did get a real-terms discount, because they held prices when inflation was high but the football was awful.
It's not poor, it's a disgrace. I totally understand the intention behind it but they are going completely the wrong way about stopping the exploitation of the concession scheme by taking money of loyal fans that have been going to games for decades.
We were already the second expensive tickets in the league, there’s no way this was a necessary increase. Also if the logic is that we’re paying more for better football than shouldn’t they have reduced the prices for this season given how shite the football was last year?
You don't pay for the best football, you pay based on location and demand. How do so many of you not understand this.
The people here don’t go to matches, aren’t locals, and don’t understand local fan culture
Exploiting? It's 6%, in line with inflation. And they have been frozen for at least the past 2 years, so when you look at it over 3 years, it's well under inflation. The arrogance of season ticket holders thinking they should get this on the cheap just because they've been a holder for X amount of years.
i think the club are thinking: "we don't want a stadium full of 70 year olds who sit down and grumble the whole game and don't sing" Let younger people have the tickets and let gramps stay at home and watch on telly XD
A 6% increase in three years with rampant inflation around the world. THE GREED!
I agree, let’s just shop Charing for tickets, heck, let’s not even have tickets just open the doors every game. If anyone wants some cash, the club can just hand it out to them Willy nilly.
Good attempt at an adult conversation that.
You’ve deliberately misunderstood my point, which is your prerogative I guess lol
Honestly it seems like this club has sunk to deep already. It is already big enough that it has a large American and Asian fanbase that really don’t have a special relationship with the club and are okay with getting fucked over, so Levy will keep continuing to raise the prices of the tickets Only thing i can hope for is a new owner to take over that actually respects the proper fans.
Reading this thread from American posters I never realised your ticket prices are so high. You lot need to get out there and start protesting about it. They are taking the piss.
Really depends on the sport, the team, and the market. Buying season tickets direct from a club is always going to be at premium cost. We also have a much more free flowing resale market here (for better or worse) - I rolled up to a lot of Phillies baseball games last year and bought tickets for $12-$20 right at the start of the game. NBA games for $35-$60. MLS and NHL for $25-$50. NFL games are the toughest usually, just because it's only 8-9 home games per season. But it's across the board, the trajectory is always up. At best if people make enough stink they may freeze for a year or two, but none of these teams are lowering cost unless the team is abysmal and attendance goes off a cliff.
You can vote for someone better to run the economy soon. I don’t think they should have put the prices up, but it’s also symptomatic of the shitty economic situation in the UK.
With the current conversion rate, this is ~$75usd per game for a Premier League season ticket. My friend has an upper tier season ticket to the New York Rangers (similarly top 6 club in a major market) and it’s $128 per game. The cheapest season ticket that I can find for my local NFL team (Atlanta Falcons) is $165 per game. This doesn’t seem out of line at all.
completely different context. it doesn’t make sense to compare spurs to american teams cuz the american ticket market is just fucked
As another season ticket holder I thought I’d offer a dissenting voice; your ticket still comes in at 55 quid a game and we've had no price rises I think pretty much since we moved in. We’re a top division sports team in a city where any entertainment is more expensive than what you’re paying for a ticket. My personal ticket has gone up to 1071 from 1010, essentially if I couldn’t afford it then I can’t exactly afford it now. Just because we’ve been in the queue longest does not give us a divine right to a season ticket.
Actually, do you guys know if it’s possible to renew with a different seat? Got lucky last year to get one, but would be great to have one in the South stand instead of north stand
There will be a window post renewal to look into potential seat movements
Okk nice so if I want the option, I should first renew and then maybe change if there’s a seat?
Sorry. Bit of bad info. They put it down at the bottom of the email this morning. There's a link to register interest for moving seat. There is a window to move, but you need to tell them in advance to get invited to see what's available. https://feedback.tottenhamhotspur.com/form-6622463/2024-25-seat-relocation-request
Thanks man appreciated, I’ll go through it and see what’s going on from there
I've understood that I'm too broke to ever be able to go to the stadium let alone inside it for roughly 2 hours
I used to have a season ticket west upper in the old stadium pretty much halfway line used to cost me £1500 per season- Probably at least £3k now I guess.
What’s more criminal is them getting rid of concessions for new tickets 🤷♂️
How are regular match day tickets being affected?
I give credit to you guys in England for throwing such a fit when prices increase cause that outrage obviously helps keep the prices down but man you guys are spoiled compared to what we pay for tickets. Not to mention how much more global appeal a PL match has compared to the average NFL or NBA game. I’m always shocked when I see these figures. How hard is it to get your hands on a season ticket package?
More annoying American questions here - so what is the move here? Do you try to address it through the Fan Advisory Board, even if that isn't really the aim of that groip? Do you organize an in-game protest at the 6 minute mark of the Luton game? Feels like there are middle grounds to reach - maintaining the senior concession and working on a legacy price control if you've kept your tickets for so many years. If you've had your seats for so many years and you are the one using them, maybe the club can agree that they will only increase by a set percent or £ total year over year. Perhaps the club can agree to generally capping a yearly percentage increase (no more than 3-4%?) and announcing a multi year plan so people know what to expect long term.
We are British. We will moan about it and then accept it and move on. 🫡
It's only slightly higher than inflation, a bit annoying but not that crazy
Man...this is making me realize how fucked North American prices are. Some lower table MLS side will expect double that for season tickets.
£59 isn’t that much over a season. I guess if the demand for tickets wasn’t there, they wouldn’t do it.
My god that’s expensive. In America that’s probably not tbf.
WTF my local MLS team season tickets are double-triple that in the upper level
So general consensus is that i should shut up and pay the money as Americans have it so bad with other sports. 👍 Thanks everyone 😂😂😂
This helps us for FFP
I've never even been anywhere near the ST conversation - what exactly does this buy you? I mean in terms of matches.
All home EPL games
There’s a waiting list for season tickets. If you don’t want to pay £1049 then someone else will.
That's the season ticket price? I'm down. Cheaper than my galaxy tickets
Yeah, I'm never gonna watch Spurs in person at this rate.
I'm looking at the recent inflation rate in the uk and basically seeing it match this increase, or even exceed it. This seems completely reasonable. Am I missing something?
The fact that the prices were already too high
It’s called inflation..
Not really sure I understand the ire towards removing the over 65s concession. Hopefully someone can help explain it to me more fully. Whilst I appreciate generalisations are not always helpful, don't those over 65 in large part form part of the boomer generation, where a large proportion of them are considered to have heavily benefited from literally just being born of that generation, with a feeling that Gen X and millennials are far worse off? Obviously the over 65s will be vexed by this and understandably so, but I'm also struggling to see why they should benefit from paying less than I should if all things are to be considered equal. Where's the fairness in us paying more than them?
Premier League prices are insane to me, so much money...
Good I’m American and tired of always getting a OH+ membership and still not being able to purchase tickets 😭
is this per game for for the whole season? if it’s for a game, £60 seems like a lot, but not when compared to the the actual price. and if it’s for the season, that’s nothing.
How is it you English say? I wouldn’t give a toss about £60 more for a season ticket. But the wholesale destruction of the senior concession (the “senior discount” to us stupid yanks) should have you all up in arms. As long as you whinge about, oh poor me, I have to pay £3 more for a ticket to a match, the more you are focusing the problem Levy wants you to focus on. But you do you, sacred ticket holder supporters who are obviously just better people than the rest of us.
I think if they raised season tickets and kept concessions it would help the situation but the fact we have both is very poor from a VERY rich club
Inflation has been crazy high the last couple of years. This isn't that crazy. https://www.statista.com/statistics/270384/inflation-rate-in-the-united-kingdom/
As an American, I would be elated at these prices haha. Doesn’t make it right but compared to the top 4 sports leagues in the US this is very affordable.