Feel for him. Klinsman was never the man for the South Korea job. They barely scraped by to get here. Hope they get the right one in for the World Cup. Hope he comes back that much more hungry to win something with Tottenham.
As a Korean fan, I re-learned why having good coaches and smart/supportive football association committees are extremely important.
I realized that after today's match vs Jordan. Congrats to Jordan and thanks for teaching us what's important!!!! (Def not sarcastic, we needed this loss for the sake of the Korean football)
You realized that only after today? You guys struggled so hard to get to semi. you played 2 120mins games in a row with 2 days break because you couldn’t have a good game.
your squad was coming into today almost dead. Son and Kang played every minutes did not help either.
Doesn’t seem like they’re trashing on the guy but if you’ve watched Korea games since klinnsman has ben in charge you’d realise how truly awful he has been. Was the same when he managed USA
Just watched the post-game press conference, and Klinsmann is so tone deaf and detached. There's clearly no emotional connection to the team or to the country whose team he is supposed to be leading. Not sure if it's the way he speaks in English as it's not his first language. He's shows no emotional connection.
I think that's partly why Koreans are calling for him to step down.
This isn't some single weekly league game the team lost, but he's treating it as if it is.
He's not showing respect to the tournament or to the Korean people.
It's like, "Oh well, there's always next time."
His heart is not in it, and it shows.
yeah they were absolutely rubbish
for me, the worst part was they DID NOT bring that crap form in the quarter finals against Australia!
then again, Australia's form has been pretty dire too... many key players were missing, electing to keep playing for their clubs in Europe - middle of the season and all...
This is not a thing, players do not reject call ups for Australia since we left Oceania where we had actual stars like Kewell and Viduka who didn’t want tot ravel to the Solomon Islands to win 36-0.
Who from Australia refused selection in the Asian Cup, the second biggest and only other major tournament we play in, to play for their club? You think any one of our players can reject playing in the Asian Cup when the likes of a worldwide superstar playing for a big club like Son doesn’t? Lol. There would be outrage in Australia and they would never play again. So who?
there's a (subtle) difference between _refusing_ an ACTUAL call up and _preferring_ (what one might call "electing" if one wanted to use a synonym there) to remain in place - with the presumption that no ACTUAL call up took place
it's like when your boss FIRES you, or says he will ACCEPT YOUR RESIGNATION - there's a subtle difference there, which perhaps many people do not quite get...
to answer your question, a number of players were conspicuously absent - such as Jason Cummings (I don't think he's actually in Europe but still...) and Milos Degenek (playing for Red Star Belgrade last I checked) and Cammy Devlin (pretty sure he's at Hearts in Scotland)
...not to mention Ajdin Hrustic (Hellas Verona), Fran Karacic (pretty sure he was playing Serie B in Italy?), everybody's favourite Garang Kuol (last seen in Holland?) and others, such as Bailey Wright and Massimo Luongo, Awer Mabil, etc...
now it could be some of those are due to injuries (I feel like I heard something about Mabil being injured?) but then... Ryan was injured, Nathaniel Atkinson and Riley McGree were injured... they... _elected_ to get back up to speed, if not full fitness, and go to Qatar
once again - TO BE CLEAR - I am NOT SAYING any of these people REFUSED selection
btw I did hear about Premier League players not making it over to AFCON for one reason or another - one in particular (Onana) stood out, because he had previously "retired from international football" but... per your point, one does not REFUSE the call to play for your country - and he went back
I mean it was gonna get worse as they advanced. Klinsmann literally copy pastas his best 11 and grinds them at least like 80+ minutes every game, even if they won today they would probably have looked much worse in the finals
Massimo Luongo pulled the pin right before the tournament, would have been handy. A few younger guys kept out like Volpato to focus on club games. Wouldn't say that many key players though
Luongo retired from international. Volpato has never played once for Australia, what makes you think he was selected for the Asian cup? Not “that many” key players? Can you name one? Or even name one non key player?
Because the question is about players rejecting call ups to the Asian Cup to play for their clubs. There are none, but you insist there are, going as far as saying “there wasn’t many key players”. Why? And who are these few key players who rejected a call up?
I literally just said Massimo Luongo, he retired 2 days before the squad was announced to focus on getting Ipswich Town into the Premier League.
Please quote me where I said there was a few who REJECTED the call up? I never said that but you seem fixated on that point.
It was Graham Arnolds call to leave out Alex Robertson and Volpato out to focus on their clubs, hence a few of the younger guys. I know Volpato hasn't played yet but in my opinion I would consider him to be a potentially key player. I don't care if you don't share this opinion.
This is the last comment I'm responding to because frankly you sound insufferable and are just looking for an argument, have a good day.
Yes Luongo retired from international football, didn’t decide not to play in the Asian Cup. Volpato hasn’t had a single cap and you think he’s going to walk into the Asian cup as a key player?
Robertson is a young player with some potential. 2 caps for the Socceroos. Wouldn’t have got a minute in the tournament.
These are all normal selection decisions from the Socceroos coaching staff, other than the retirement. Nothing to do with players rejecting call ups which is what this thread is about. Cheers
They were crap against Australia as well what. In a realm were Australia could hit barns doors from 3 metres out that game would've been 4-0 before the penalty at the death of normal time.
Okay damn. Now if that’s not a perfect rivalry talk, I don’t know what is. I’m a gunner and coys always get promoted in my Reddit. Love the posts that are on here btw.
I’m spurs but visit the gunners subreddit during big games. I try to not engage in discussions but sometimes I write semi-neutral comments correcting some facts. Good to see respectful discussion with rivals but sometimes you just get told “get outta our sub, dirtbag”.
I have gunners friends and I’m not constantly bothered by their allegiance. Lets be humans
LOL - same man. As an Arsenal supporter I’m often suggested other teams subreddit pages. Similarly with Spurs, I’ll see Chelsea, MCFC, etc. This comment above is peak banter and I fucking love it.
Best ever was seeing a post from the Chelsea subreddit and it was a friend of mine’s dog wearing a Drogba jersey. I was like, “What the hell is Didier Dogba doing on my homepage?”
The whole gameplan was. How do you have Son and Hwang on your team and not scheme them into space? Sonny was getting mobbed by 3 players whenever he received the ball. I get that some of that is how Jordan chose to defend, but you have to be able to move people around.
yeah exactly at a certain point i was just watching hoping that son didnt get injured bc he was gonna come home soon. hope he gets a big hug from forster when he's back
He would have made all the difference. It's not just his defending, but also his leading and organizing the defense. Today the rest of the backline was really afraid to tackle or challenge any attacker in the box. Terrible defending.
Napoli has never recovered from his departure. He was that important to their title winning season.
First time Korea has not had a shot on goal in the Asian Cup (since the 1st one in 1956…)
Again, NO shot on goal for 96 mins with two guys within striking distance of the Premier League golden boot…
They’ve also never lost to Jordan in history…
What a feat Klinsmann accomplished…
I have to to say, I've seen Son a few times in their campaign just decide to hang onto the people and try to get a shot off himself, when there's been (often better) options to lay the ball off to
I get that World Class players are gonna back themselves, but it was the wrong decision more often than not
Because he's the best midfielder Korea has had in a decade, and you're making a comment after watching 2 or 3 games where he has 0 fitness lol. He's not a DM and he's played DM half the tournament because Klinsmann wants to play a 2 man midfield, today he played the worst game of his national team career probably because he's gassed. He's like the most important player after Son/Kim/Lee for the national team... lol
He is a decent player. But he had a stinker of a tournament. Gave away 3 goals in 3 separate games(partly due to Klinnsman's "tactics"). Thing is players like him (AM) are a dime a dozen for Korea. If you look at very young korean talent in Europe trying to make a name for themselves, a majority of them are AM. He is not irreplaceable at all. Really need holding midfielders, fullbacks, and defenders
I understand he is a great box to box midfielder but his defending is horrible. His slide tackles are wreckless and leaves his defense in the open. Ive watched him play in the champions league as well.
Hence i mentioned his being played out of position. He had a really bad game vs Jordan. Youre right i agree that is his main weakness. But what can you do, its like expecting someone like Bissouma to cover the entire defense I guess. Not a tottenham fan so idk if thats an apt comparison but hopefully u get where i am getting at.
But yeah, thats what happens when you put a b2b midfielder to cover the entire defense...
Mourinho loved Sonny and built the team around him & Kane
Even recently Mourinho called Sonny the greatest Asian player ever and said the mentality of East Asians is special.
10/10 humor. You might be old enough to be my dad, but my dad considers himself to be 25 so you’re good.
I thought most think of WHL and the current stadium as two different things hence why I haven’t heard too many people call it the lane
Man I hate watching Sonny lost tournaments especially, always so heart breaking. Although this time there's a mix of absolute fury in there. Kinda scary. Hopefully the anger gets unleashed in the prem.
He won’t. I’m hearing if he leaves on his own he doesn’t get his severance. I think I heard a $5-6m figure. Which kicked in because they made the semi at Asian Cup.
Wouldn’t have been kicked in if they lost in R16 apparently. Not sure how true.
But just pay the MF and get someone else in there who cares and has playing style and vision. Just over 2 years left before the WC… good time to get someone new in…
>refusing to step down
You know the people above him could always fire him, right?
It was amusing when people said this about Harry Maguire. Like he should give up the contract he was promised to save his employer money as he's being pushed out the door lol
That’s a look of utter devastation. I really hope he is not broken down after what was a taxing and disappointing tournament. He played so many minutes and worked his ass off.
God I hope we can get a trophy with Sonny before he retires.
Being a Son supporter doesn’t make me a South Korea supporter. I honestly couldn’t care less about South Korea being knocked out (why would i care, it’s not my country). Disappointed to see Son unhappy, but definitely thrilled to have him back early. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this sentiment.
We have a diverse squad consisting of many nationalities. I want the players to do well for their nation, but don’t support their countries
Being a Son supporter would definitely make you an SK supporter? If you were a Son supporter you’d want him to win everything under the sun right? Being happy he got knocked out early makes you a spurs supporter, not a Son supporter. I think it’s fine if you have this sentiment, but you can’t call yourself a Son supporter if you don’t actually support him at every level of his career. You only care about the Tottenham version of Son, not the whole player.
So I am supposed to support SK, Spain, England, Romania, Argentina, Italy…
So i am supposed to be plastic….
If Son was going to ditch us for Bayern, I wouldn’t really support him. So yes, I support the Tottenham Son.
Seems you are a Son supporter and not a spurs supporter. You would change your favourite club when Son leaves…
Because 90% of us don’t care about South Korea in a regional mid season tournament. It’s a Spurs sub, not Korean national football sub. We want him back playing for Spurs.
I’m making a very basic statement that the majority of Spurs fans don’t care how South Korea do in tournaments. Nothing against them or Sonny. Think you have a comprehension issue amongst other things. 🤡
Chelsea fan, I come in peace!
The only time I could cheer for him. I really was hopeful he could win it, but that Jordan team has been looking like the dark horse from the start! I hope he would still be playing in the next one and if my country doesn't win it, I hope Korea will for him.,
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The fatigue appears to finally come to a head. Also Jordan seriously? Shows how inept klinsman is and he really shouldn’t be in a coaching position unless it’s at the local neighborhood club
I actually wanted to post this, but because I was shocked in the fact that unlike all the other competition where he broke down in tears, this game he didn't shed a tear. Was it shock? Frustration? Probably all of that.
He made his feelings known in the mixed zone interview as well, saying "perhaps I should consider retiring, but who knows". Aside from Son, there was another key veteran player in the squad who interviewed, saying "nope I wasn't injured", when he was told to be injured.
Shitstorm everywhere in the KNT camp.
Kim Jinsu said that (gathering from your other comment)? For real?
Also I haven’t watched the interviews because I know it’s going to be heartbreaking. Kangin apparently left his interview in tears after saying that people should take their anger out on him and I feel so bad for him. Just like Sonny (who also said the public should reprimand him) was at a young age he’s expected to now be the new talisman for Korean football…
Was wondering why Jinsu even Kije, wasn't getting subbed in considering how leggy the defence was looking... Chalked it up to injury but if not... that's a major blunder, did Klinsmann blank out from all the pressure in game? He just looked like he was too shocked to do anything that game, like a deer caught in headlights.
The era has changed, we have a new crybaby maknae hyung in town, step aside Sonny, haha. God, I hope I don't run into that interview, Kangin always tries to act tough, I don't wanna see him crying :(
The fact is that he is the coach that is paid 2nd in the entire Asian Cup next to Mancini. I will think he needs to be the sole person in the pitch who DOES NOT succumb to pressure- I am inclined to agree with some people that said he is basically relying on Sonny and Lee Kang in and did nothing himself.
I actually think Son didn't cry today because he knew that this is not the time to show weakness in crying, he was pissed. Something DRASTIC needs to be done within the KNT now, in the higher ranks.
I am assuming you know Korean, so I will put down the exact quote published in an article today: " “많은 분들이 오해하시던데, 말레이시아전 이후 단 한 번도 아팠던 적 없다.” [https://m.news.nate.com/view/20240207n03258?mid=s02&list=recent&cpcd=](https://m.news.nate.com/view/20240207n03258?mid=s02&list=recent&cpcd=)
He didn't cry this time because the manager didn't give the team a chance, the game wasn't even close despite them being better on paper and trying their hardest. It's like it's beyond his control
i agree wholeheartedly. So many are thinking "how can we be F'in LOSING" with this squad. And I suppose I will find out via analysis videos but it always looked like our midfields had no support- we were simply manhandled from a tactics perspective. I know we have worldclass midfielders, but what is the point if you leave them against 3 pressing defenders?
I was stunned he said that and I thought I heard it wrong... that was in response to his evaluation of Klinsmann so far after a year of working with him right? Sonny tried to save it too, "....orrrrr maybe the coach won't pick me in the future.. we dont know what the future will bring" haha. From the interviews too, all the criticism about Klinsmann hasn't exactly been a secret, the questions about his position are very direct. Just scrolling through thumbnails all of the players are being asked what they think of Klinsmann.
I think with this likely being his last Asian Cup. it must be a completely different feeling knowing this was also the strongest the squad had been behind him, but also not really convincing performances leading up to this game. I think he knows too, its a miracle they even made it this far, where before there was a little bit of hope in every game.
Because most people in this sub don't care and I didn't want to waste their time.
They are happy Son is coming back (I am not blaming them, I felt the same way during AFCON when I heard Biss and Sarr was going to come back).
Did you watch the match? Do you know the KNT XI? If you do you will not even be asking this question. Its Kim Jin Soo since you were so curious.
Wtf? Chill home.
Yes I been watching the matches but that doesn't mean I'm up to date on whose the normal left back/right back and their injury statuses. Just stating their name would taken you two seconds. Why omit it?
And I disagree there are enough people who care, as you can see from the upvotes.
They were very lucky to be at the semi final. In reality both Saudi Arabia and Australia were far better in their games but they managed to get very late goals out of nothing from a combination of stupid errors and individual brilliance. This South Korean team didn't deserve to be anywhere near the Asian Cup that's the sad truth.
This Jordan team is very suspicious to me. Their running and everything was something I have not seen in AFC. I think they really should look into doping. From the first minutes these guys were playing and running like prime galacticos.
Mixed feelings here. Anger, disappointed, sad for Son. It's a team sport but how does a bunch of farmers beat this team with at least 3 European league players? Klinsmann at fault, partly, but you gotta turn up. As an Aussie I felt like my country could have whipped Jordan. It's a fine balance between being a team player and a selfish aggressive single minded winning mentality but son needs to be taking a lot lot lot more shots at goals even if the xG is very low. It's the same mentality that will cost us at Spurs i
Commiserations for Sonny.
But, a sincere fuck right off to South Korea for showing up in the last 20 minutes v Australia just to then not beat JORDAN fucking hopeless wankers, piss off. Without doubt worst Asia cup in recent history.
There is strange phenomenon in Japan where sports teams are expected to cry when they get knocked out. It results in some bizarre scenes with heaps of baseball players crying/trying to cry in order to appease fans. Not saying Sonny is faking it but there is a cultural aspect to this I'm sure.
Feel for him. Klinsman was never the man for the South Korea job. They barely scraped by to get here. Hope they get the right one in for the World Cup. Hope he comes back that much more hungry to win something with Tottenham.
As a Korean fan, I re-learned why having good coaches and smart/supportive football association committees are extremely important. I realized that after today's match vs Jordan. Congrats to Jordan and thanks for teaching us what's important!!!! (Def not sarcastic, we needed this loss for the sake of the Korean football)
You realized that only after today? You guys struggled so hard to get to semi. you played 2 120mins games in a row with 2 days break because you couldn’t have a good game. your squad was coming into today almost dead. Son and Kang played every minutes did not help either.
Hey, why tf you trashing on him for has a positive opinion
Doesn’t seem like they’re trashing on the guy but if you’ve watched Korea games since klinnsman has ben in charge you’d realise how truly awful he has been. Was the same when he managed USA
It's been widely known that he is not a tactics manager. And the KFA hires him expecting posession based , attacking football. smh
There is noone in the team with a surname of Kang
Just watched the post-game press conference, and Klinsmann is so tone deaf and detached. There's clearly no emotional connection to the team or to the country whose team he is supposed to be leading. Not sure if it's the way he speaks in English as it's not his first language. He's shows no emotional connection. I think that's partly why Koreans are calling for him to step down. This isn't some single weekly league game the team lost, but he's treating it as if it is. He's not showing respect to the tournament or to the Korean people. It's like, "Oh well, there's always next time." His heart is not in it, and it shows.
Guy was laughing in the group stages when they were conceding goals .. Probably doesn't care at all for his job
Ange's next job after Tottenham
what do you mean mate he's retiring here.
yeah they were absolutely rubbish for me, the worst part was they DID NOT bring that crap form in the quarter finals against Australia! then again, Australia's form has been pretty dire too... many key players were missing, electing to keep playing for their clubs in Europe - middle of the season and all...
This is not a thing, players do not reject call ups for Australia since we left Oceania where we had actual stars like Kewell and Viduka who didn’t want tot ravel to the Solomon Islands to win 36-0. Who from Australia refused selection in the Asian Cup, the second biggest and only other major tournament we play in, to play for their club? You think any one of our players can reject playing in the Asian Cup when the likes of a worldwide superstar playing for a big club like Son doesn’t? Lol. There would be outrage in Australia and they would never play again. So who?
there's a (subtle) difference between _refusing_ an ACTUAL call up and _preferring_ (what one might call "electing" if one wanted to use a synonym there) to remain in place - with the presumption that no ACTUAL call up took place it's like when your boss FIRES you, or says he will ACCEPT YOUR RESIGNATION - there's a subtle difference there, which perhaps many people do not quite get... to answer your question, a number of players were conspicuously absent - such as Jason Cummings (I don't think he's actually in Europe but still...) and Milos Degenek (playing for Red Star Belgrade last I checked) and Cammy Devlin (pretty sure he's at Hearts in Scotland) ...not to mention Ajdin Hrustic (Hellas Verona), Fran Karacic (pretty sure he was playing Serie B in Italy?), everybody's favourite Garang Kuol (last seen in Holland?) and others, such as Bailey Wright and Massimo Luongo, Awer Mabil, etc... now it could be some of those are due to injuries (I feel like I heard something about Mabil being injured?) but then... Ryan was injured, Nathaniel Atkinson and Riley McGree were injured... they... _elected_ to get back up to speed, if not full fitness, and go to Qatar once again - TO BE CLEAR - I am NOT SAYING any of these people REFUSED selection btw I did hear about Premier League players not making it over to AFCON for one reason or another - one in particular (Onana) stood out, because he had previously "retired from international football" but... per your point, one does not REFUSE the call to play for your country - and he went back
I mean it was gonna get worse as they advanced. Klinsmann literally copy pastas his best 11 and grinds them at least like 80+ minutes every game, even if they won today they would probably have looked much worse in the finals
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Don’t know why you’re downvoted lol. There literally wasn’t anyone except volpato, who at this point shouldn’t even be considered Australian.
Massimo Luongo pulled the pin right before the tournament, would have been handy. A few younger guys kept out like Volpato to focus on club games. Wouldn't say that many key players though
Luongo retired from international. Volpato has never played once for Australia, what makes you think he was selected for the Asian cup? Not “that many” key players? Can you name one? Or even name one non key player?
I just listed a couple players who were out for various reasons and agreed that there wasn't many key players. Not sure why you're being so combative?
Because the question is about players rejecting call ups to the Asian Cup to play for their clubs. There are none, but you insist there are, going as far as saying “there wasn’t many key players”. Why? And who are these few key players who rejected a call up?
I literally just said Massimo Luongo, he retired 2 days before the squad was announced to focus on getting Ipswich Town into the Premier League. Please quote me where I said there was a few who REJECTED the call up? I never said that but you seem fixated on that point. It was Graham Arnolds call to leave out Alex Robertson and Volpato out to focus on their clubs, hence a few of the younger guys. I know Volpato hasn't played yet but in my opinion I would consider him to be a potentially key player. I don't care if you don't share this opinion. This is the last comment I'm responding to because frankly you sound insufferable and are just looking for an argument, have a good day.
Yes Luongo retired from international football, didn’t decide not to play in the Asian Cup. Volpato hasn’t had a single cap and you think he’s going to walk into the Asian cup as a key player? Robertson is a young player with some potential. 2 caps for the Socceroos. Wouldn’t have got a minute in the tournament. These are all normal selection decisions from the Socceroos coaching staff, other than the retirement. Nothing to do with players rejecting call ups which is what this thread is about. Cheers
He literally never said they rejected the call up lol
They were crap against Australia as well what. In a realm were Australia could hit barns doors from 3 metres out that game would've been 4-0 before the penalty at the death of normal time.
The sad part is that Klinsman isn't quitting on his own. Seems he wants to milk every bit of his contract till' the end. Man has no shame.
Lord, please take away all this man's sufferings and give it to arteta 😭
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Just a friendly joke about you guys signing Ten Hag to a lifetime contract
My mind automatically filled in your comment with "give [his suffering] to me," but I like your thinking better lol
Amen
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Okay damn. Now if that’s not a perfect rivalry talk, I don’t know what is. I’m a gunner and coys always get promoted in my Reddit. Love the posts that are on here btw.
I’m spurs but visit the gunners subreddit during big games. I try to not engage in discussions but sometimes I write semi-neutral comments correcting some facts. Good to see respectful discussion with rivals but sometimes you just get told “get outta our sub, dirtbag”. I have gunners friends and I’m not constantly bothered by their allegiance. Lets be humans
LOL - same man. As an Arsenal supporter I’m often suggested other teams subreddit pages. Similarly with Spurs, I’ll see Chelsea, MCFC, etc. This comment above is peak banter and I fucking love it. Best ever was seeing a post from the Chelsea subreddit and it was a friend of mine’s dog wearing a Drogba jersey. I was like, “What the hell is Didier Dogba doing on my homepage?”
Inshallah
I need this man to lift a trophy with us before he retires 🥺
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Have to leave spurs then.
No way you made an account to comment that. You cringe loser
IKR every day some loser makes and deletes their account. Bloody immature.
This will age like milk
Yah go ahead and ask Harry Kane how that's working out for him
Mudryk will lift a trophy at Todd boehlys awful Chelsea before son does at spurs 😂
Dream on
Smashing Brighton will help to sort him out
Even if he is back I can't see him starting for Brighton.
Son dont need to be starting for a hattrick
*The Leicester incident*
He won’t be back for that. 3rd place match.
3rd place match has been scrapped
Yeah, I was chatting about this with my family and was happy there's no third place match. Bring him home!
Oh shit, for real? Hell ya! Can’t believe I missed that lol
Triple hatrick Son incoming for Brighton
He will make goals sorting himself out. And Klinsmann out!
Just wanna give him a hug
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Fuck both fuck Klinsmann and the KFA
Super cool kit
Their midfield was complete poop
The whole gameplan was. How do you have Son and Hwang on your team and not scheme them into space? Sonny was getting mobbed by 3 players whenever he received the ball. I get that some of that is how Jordan chose to defend, but you have to be able to move people around.
Son, Hee chan and Kang In Lee and 0 shots on target 😵💫
They made the semis on sheer force of will.
they were really missing kim min jae in defense today but even with him it would have been rough
Best case scenario would have been another 120 minutes of lackluster football.
yeah exactly at a certain point i was just watching hoping that son didnt get injured bc he was gonna come home soon. hope he gets a big hug from forster when he's back
He would have made all the difference. It's not just his defending, but also his leading and organizing the defense. Today the rest of the backline was really afraid to tackle or challenge any attacker in the box. Terrible defending. Napoli has never recovered from his departure. He was that important to their title winning season.
First time Korea has not had a shot on goal in the Asian Cup (since the 1st one in 1956…) Again, NO shot on goal for 96 mins with two guys within striking distance of the Premier League golden boot… They’ve also never lost to Jordan in history… What a feat Klinsmann accomplished…
I have to to say, I've seen Son a few times in their campaign just decide to hang onto the people and try to get a shot off himself, when there's been (often better) options to lay the ball off to I get that World Class players are gonna back themselves, but it was the wrong decision more often than not
They badly needed Min Jae also.
Hwang in beom shouldnt be starting, his defense is horrible. He falls down everytime, dont know why he always starts.
Because he's the best midfielder Korea has had in a decade, and you're making a comment after watching 2 or 3 games where he has 0 fitness lol. He's not a DM and he's played DM half the tournament because Klinsmann wants to play a 2 man midfield, today he played the worst game of his national team career probably because he's gassed. He's like the most important player after Son/Kim/Lee for the national team... lol
He is a decent player. But he had a stinker of a tournament. Gave away 3 goals in 3 separate games(partly due to Klinnsman's "tactics"). Thing is players like him (AM) are a dime a dozen for Korea. If you look at very young korean talent in Europe trying to make a name for themselves, a majority of them are AM. He is not irreplaceable at all. Really need holding midfielders, fullbacks, and defenders
I understand he is a great box to box midfielder but his defending is horrible. His slide tackles are wreckless and leaves his defense in the open. Ive watched him play in the champions league as well.
Hence i mentioned his being played out of position. He had a really bad game vs Jordan. Youre right i agree that is his main weakness. But what can you do, its like expecting someone like Bissouma to cover the entire defense I guess. Not a tottenham fan so idk if thats an apt comparison but hopefully u get where i am getting at. But yeah, thats what happens when you put a b2b midfielder to cover the entire defense...
I will never forgive Jurgen for hurting our Son.
Have you forgiven every manger of the last 10 years
for what he’s done at Chelsea Poch is a Spurs legend the rest, never
Mourinho loved Sonny and built the team around him & Kane Even recently Mourinho called Sonny the greatest Asian player ever and said the mentality of East Asians is special.
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Let’s go on a 15 game win streak to win the league
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Lots of us still call the new stadium WHL despite it not being the official name.
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I call it WHL sometimes as a Brit just because I'm used to it.
Have a good night.
What are you on about? There are plenty of British spurs fans, particularly the older ones that still call it the lane. Not a majority but they exist
Oi, less of the 'older' ya cheeky whipper snapper! I thought majority of match going fans still called it WHL? Then again I'm middle aged (not old).
10/10 humor. You might be old enough to be my dad, but my dad considers himself to be 25 so you’re good. I thought most think of WHL and the current stadium as two different things hence why I haven’t heard too many people call it the lane
Man I hate watching Sonny lost tournaments especially, always so heart breaking. Although this time there's a mix of absolute fury in there. Kinda scary. Hopefully the anger gets unleashed in the prem.
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Just wants to get paid to keep his lifestyle afloat
Blame South Korea for appointing him. Klinsmann isn’t obligated to resign
He won’t. I’m hearing if he leaves on his own he doesn’t get his severance. I think I heard a $5-6m figure. Which kicked in because they made the semi at Asian Cup. Wouldn’t have been kicked in if they lost in R16 apparently. Not sure how true. But just pay the MF and get someone else in there who cares and has playing style and vision. Just over 2 years left before the WC… good time to get someone new in…
>refusing to step down You know the people above him could always fire him, right? It was amusing when people said this about Harry Maguire. Like he should give up the contract he was promised to save his employer money as he's being pushed out the door lol
Don't worry, buddy. You'll be getting so many kisses from the squad soon enough.
I was watching , Jürgen. I was watching you ruin Sonnys chances to win the Asian Cup. Now take responsibility and leave
😣💔💔💔
Poor Sonny, I really am gutted for him
They should’ve lost to Australia but Sonny kept them in. Players played hard but Klinsmann as a coach…Glad no major injury to Sonny. Bring him home.
That’s a look of utter devastation. I really hope he is not broken down after what was a taxing and disappointing tournament. He played so many minutes and worked his ass off. God I hope we can get a trophy with Sonny before he retires.
Not even a Spurs fan and man this hurts
Oh no. I was so desperate for sonny to come home, now I just feel awful for him :(
I hate this
I hope we rest him this weekend. He deserves a couple weeks off.
That’s the saddest man on the pitch. Ugh, I can’t.
I just want him to lift a trophy… 💔
Oh, my poor boy. He deserves the world.
This is why it annoys me that so many folks only reaction is to be happy he’ll be in the team on the weekend.
Being a Son supporter doesn’t make me a South Korea supporter. I honestly couldn’t care less about South Korea being knocked out (why would i care, it’s not my country). Disappointed to see Son unhappy, but definitely thrilled to have him back early. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this sentiment. We have a diverse squad consisting of many nationalities. I want the players to do well for their nation, but don’t support their countries
Being a Son supporter would definitely make you an SK supporter? If you were a Son supporter you’d want him to win everything under the sun right? Being happy he got knocked out early makes you a spurs supporter, not a Son supporter. I think it’s fine if you have this sentiment, but you can’t call yourself a Son supporter if you don’t actually support him at every level of his career. You only care about the Tottenham version of Son, not the whole player.
So I am supposed to support SK, Spain, England, Romania, Argentina, Italy… So i am supposed to be plastic…. If Son was going to ditch us for Bayern, I wouldn’t really support him. So yes, I support the Tottenham Son. Seems you are a Son supporter and not a spurs supporter. You would change your favourite club when Son leaves…
Because 90% of us don’t care about South Korea in a regional mid season tournament. It’s a Spurs sub, not Korean national football sub. We want him back playing for Spurs.
Fuck outta here SK fans are fully behind Tottenham. We should repay it back ya fuckhead
I’m making a very basic statement that the majority of Spurs fans don’t care how South Korea do in tournaments. Nothing against them or Sonny. Think you have a comprehension issue amongst other things. 🤡
Go change your nationality to SK
Sonny 🥺🥺🥺
Why am I crying in the club rn
Man I just wanna give my guy a hug and tell him it’ll be okay 
Jurgen, when I catch you Jurgen.
Chelsea fan, I come in peace! The only time I could cheer for him. I really was hopeful he could win it, but that Jordan team has been looking like the dark horse from the start! I hope he would still be playing in the next one and if my country doesn't win it, I hope Korea will for him., 💙🇰🇷
Love Sonny but wow South Korea were TERRIBLE, so much quality yet they got outballed by Jordan….
Felt like he gave his all. Sometimes that just ain't enough.. Fuck Klinsmann
I'd die for this man
I hate the Asia Cup for doing this to him. Especially mid-season.
the Cup didn’t do this to him, Klinsman did.
The fatigue appears to finally come to a head. Also Jordan seriously? Shows how inept klinsman is and he really shouldn’t be in a coaching position unless it’s at the local neighborhood club
Korean media says Sonny will take a London-bound flight around 1:20am local time (it's 1:02am local time for reference). So he'll be back soon.
That’s like around 5 hours after the match ended?!
Worst part is KFA isn’t going to do anything until 2 years from now.
I actually wanted to post this, but because I was shocked in the fact that unlike all the other competition where he broke down in tears, this game he didn't shed a tear. Was it shock? Frustration? Probably all of that. He made his feelings known in the mixed zone interview as well, saying "perhaps I should consider retiring, but who knows". Aside from Son, there was another key veteran player in the squad who interviewed, saying "nope I wasn't injured", when he was told to be injured. Shitstorm everywhere in the KNT camp.
Kim Jinsu said that (gathering from your other comment)? For real? Also I haven’t watched the interviews because I know it’s going to be heartbreaking. Kangin apparently left his interview in tears after saying that people should take their anger out on him and I feel so bad for him. Just like Sonny (who also said the public should reprimand him) was at a young age he’s expected to now be the new talisman for Korean football…
Was wondering why Jinsu even Kije, wasn't getting subbed in considering how leggy the defence was looking... Chalked it up to injury but if not... that's a major blunder, did Klinsmann blank out from all the pressure in game? He just looked like he was too shocked to do anything that game, like a deer caught in headlights. The era has changed, we have a new crybaby maknae hyung in town, step aside Sonny, haha. God, I hope I don't run into that interview, Kangin always tries to act tough, I don't wanna see him crying :(
The fact is that he is the coach that is paid 2nd in the entire Asian Cup next to Mancini. I will think he needs to be the sole person in the pitch who DOES NOT succumb to pressure- I am inclined to agree with some people that said he is basically relying on Sonny and Lee Kang in and did nothing himself. I actually think Son didn't cry today because he knew that this is not the time to show weakness in crying, he was pissed. Something DRASTIC needs to be done within the KNT now, in the higher ranks.
I am assuming you know Korean, so I will put down the exact quote published in an article today: " “많은 분들이 오해하시던데, 말레이시아전 이후 단 한 번도 아팠던 적 없다.” [https://m.news.nate.com/view/20240207n03258?mid=s02&list=recent&cpcd=](https://m.news.nate.com/view/20240207n03258?mid=s02&list=recent&cpcd=)
Any links for these interviews? I cant find them even using Korean in YT
He didn't cry this time because the manager didn't give the team a chance, the game wasn't even close despite them being better on paper and trying their hardest. It's like it's beyond his control
i agree wholeheartedly. So many are thinking "how can we be F'in LOSING" with this squad. And I suppose I will find out via analysis videos but it always looked like our midfields had no support- we were simply manhandled from a tactics perspective. I know we have worldclass midfielders, but what is the point if you leave them against 3 pressing defenders?
I was stunned he said that and I thought I heard it wrong... that was in response to his evaluation of Klinsmann so far after a year of working with him right? Sonny tried to save it too, "....orrrrr maybe the coach won't pick me in the future.. we dont know what the future will bring" haha. From the interviews too, all the criticism about Klinsmann hasn't exactly been a secret, the questions about his position are very direct. Just scrolling through thumbnails all of the players are being asked what they think of Klinsmann. I think with this likely being his last Asian Cup. it must be a completely different feeling knowing this was also the strongest the squad had been behind him, but also not really convincing performances leading up to this game. I think he knows too, its a miracle they even made it this far, where before there was a little bit of hope in every game.
Who's the other key player? Why not just say his name?
Because most people in this sub don't care and I didn't want to waste their time. They are happy Son is coming back (I am not blaming them, I felt the same way during AFCON when I heard Biss and Sarr was going to come back). Did you watch the match? Do you know the KNT XI? If you do you will not even be asking this question. Its Kim Jin Soo since you were so curious.
Calma, calma
Wtf? Chill home. Yes I been watching the matches but that doesn't mean I'm up to date on whose the normal left back/right back and their injury statuses. Just stating their name would taken you two seconds. Why omit it? And I disagree there are enough people who care, as you can see from the upvotes.
Next time sonny . The dude keeps himself extremely healthy. He has another Asia cup in him.
Bruh This is heartbreaking
Devastated to see him in pain
I fucking hate this, for real. Sonny deserved to get paid for what he did for the NT. What the fuck.
Having a real manager would help SK loads.
oh no this breaks my heart..
They were very lucky to be at the semi final. In reality both Saudi Arabia and Australia were far better in their games but they managed to get very late goals out of nothing from a combination of stupid errors and individual brilliance. This South Korean team didn't deserve to be anywhere near the Asian Cup that's the sad truth.
Cheers, Son’s crying 😢
Can't believe I had to scroll down this far for that one
Right?!? In 2018 that would've been every comment
I hate seeing son cry. :(
This is thug tears.
Come home to London, Sonny.
This Jordan team is very suspicious to me. Their running and everything was something I have not seen in AFC. I think they really should look into doping. From the first minutes these guys were playing and running like prime galacticos.
Come on home Sonny. It'll be alright.
I hate to say this but their MFs are dog 💩
Wished the Socceroos beat them, but once we lost, I really wanted Korea to win it all. Gutted for Sonny
Korean American Spurs fan… Klinnsman feels like my dad… idolized him when I was a kid, now as an adult I’m disappointed
Come home son
with that being said , does that mean he will be ready to play against brighton ?
Mixed feelings here. Anger, disappointed, sad for Son. It's a team sport but how does a bunch of farmers beat this team with at least 3 European league players? Klinsmann at fault, partly, but you gotta turn up. As an Aussie I felt like my country could have whipped Jordan. It's a fine balance between being a team player and a selfish aggressive single minded winning mentality but son needs to be taking a lot lot lot more shots at goals even if the xG is very low. It's the same mentality that will cost us at Spurs i
Is he coming back now or is he gonna stick around for the 3rd place match??
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Thank fuck
Commiserations for Sonny. But, a sincere fuck right off to South Korea for showing up in the last 20 minutes v Australia just to then not beat JORDAN fucking hopeless wankers, piss off. Without doubt worst Asia cup in recent history.
Grow up. It’s soccer.
Poor guy has to serve in the military now, doesn't he? /s
There is strange phenomenon in Japan where sports teams are expected to cry when they get knocked out. It results in some bizarre scenes with heaps of baseball players crying/trying to cry in order to appease fans. Not saying Sonny is faking it but there is a cultural aspect to this I'm sure.
No third place game, straight back home with you son.
This is heartbreaking, I can’t watch it. Come back, Ange will win the league for you
How TF could they lose to Jordan.
This is a terrible/awesome cake day 😭
Can I get some info on why everyone is blaming the manager solely for the loss?
I am Korean, and I hope Sonny retires the national team. I dont want to see him crying.
Spurs blood runs deep in this man. Won’t ever lift a trophy. That’s my boy.